AMD or INTEL, my next choice and yours?

[Hollywood]

Well I'm having a dilemma. I need to purchace a new mobo, CPU, RAM, CASE, PWR SUPP (I have the rest) for roughlty 1k. I have always owned intel machinces. I have bought amd once and had problems. But these days AMD seems to be doing well and I could save some cash. I gennerally overclock all my machines as the demise of my last pc but hey it lasted 3 years running double the spped almost, so it was worth it.

Main funcions of the PC are , games, internet and porn. I was looking at a Intel 2.6c 800FSB OC'd to 3ghz roughly. I priced it out at mem express 259.00. I think I can get a AMD 2800+ for 229.00 and looking at Asus motherboards as the ABIT quality has gone downhill. Maybe a gigabyte.

Also AMD seems to have more issues than intel, crashes, blue screens etc..

So Intel or AMD?

[Weapon_R]

I have both processors, the AMD is 100mhz slower, but for some reason, the AMD is better at everything, and faster.

[WhiteNikes]

I'm a fan of AMD, although I've never been one to overclock. I keep my use of my computer pretty mainstream, except for any garbage code that I write, and I've never had a problem. Why pay more?

[Superesc]

if I have money to spend I would go with INTEL... but I have a feeling my next PC purchase will be AMD.

But above all.. I say APPLE :D

[rage2]

Intel forever!

I actually bought an AMD machine just to appease a few ppl that say I'm too biased towards Intel. The AMD is slightly faster compressing videos, but it was slower in day to day operation (odd lags). There were also some problems with getting drivers working properly, buggy chipset and workarounds, etc.

[Superesc]

yea I had driver problems with my old AMD setup (K6 450)... but everyone's saying they are better now!?!??!

[alloroc]

For the office .. Intel. (and asus MB)

For personal computer ... gaming .. AMD. (and MSI MB)

[E36M3]

I buy AMD machines for personal use and use Intel Xeons for servers at work. I've never had any compatibility issues with the AMD chips at all, and have boxes running Win2k, WinXP and Linux, all happily chugging along.

I don't play games though, and that might be the biggest test, since they tend to stress a system the most.

[Superesc]

Originally posted by E36M3
I buy AMD machines for personal use and use Intel Xeons for servers at work. I've never had any compatibility issues with the AMD chips at all, and have boxes running Win2k, WinXP and Linux, all happily chugging along.

I don't play games though, and that might be the biggest test, since they tend to stress a system the most.

yea... I had problems mainly when playing games on my old AMD box...

[4G63Power]

Originally posted by rage2
Intel forever!

:werd:

[kevie88]

I have 3 AMD XP machines and all are performing at or beyond my expectations. Gotta love cheap speed!!:D

Intel have made some gains recently in the $$ per Horsepower battle tho, and should not be overlooked.. if the difference in price is only a few dollars, I'd probably go for the Intel.
However, if the price difference is large, go for the AMD!!

What are you going to be using this unit for?

[wanna-be]

AMD all the way. with the new AMD64...intel just sux.

With Microsoft almost release of its new 64 bit windows..and a few game companies already releasing 64 bit games....AMD is the perfect way to go.

In fact, some of you say INTEL is better for servers/work use..actually many companies even IBM are switching to AMD64.

Intel sux...Microsoft is slowly relizing it. In fact, the new XBOX won"t be containing an Intel chip.


GO WITH AMD..64 bit processing power man!!

[kevie88]

Originally posted by wanna-be
GO WITH AMD..64 bit processing power man!!

Not all amd chips are 64bit tho, I'd probably wait a little while before going 64.
Windows XP is available now with 64bit I think.. at least it's floating around here at work already anyway.


I havent seen Hyperthreading on an AMD chip yet, and I'm not sure if it's possible (doubt it). My buddies 2.4ghz intel with hyperthreading absolutely SMOKES his 2.5ghz intel without it in the benchmarks. That's another consideration... but it brings me back to the "whaddya gonna do with it" question.

[Superesc]

He just needs it for porn yo.

[rage2]

Originally posted by kevie88
Not all amd chips are 64bit tho, I'd probably wait a little while before going 64.
No doubt. 64's mostly hype right now, until there's a full shift to 64 bit apps, the benefits aren't exactly huge. Bitrate is a great marketing gimmick though... remember how the Atari 64-bit Jaguar was supposed to kick all ass against the 32-bit playstations? :rofl:


Originally posted by kevie88
I havent seen Hyperthreading on an AMD chip yet, and I'm not sure if it's possible (doubt it). My buddies 2.4ghz intel with hyperthreading absolutely SMOKES his 2.5ghz intel without it in the benchmarks. That's another consideration... but it brings me back to the "whaddya gonna do with it" question.
Hyperthreading is amazing, in the apps that I use, there's a 30-40% gain in performance at the same Mhz. Like a free mini 2nd CPU.

[wanna-be]

they're have been many tests done on the AMD 64 (2 gighz) in comparison with the latest and greatest Intel (3.2 gighz Extreme Edition)

most results show they are equivalent. and this is using 32 bit applications.

now think of when Microsoft releases its 64 bit operating system. other software companies will follow suit and release their 64 bit applications. this is where amd will prevail.

[E36M3]

Maybe, but if you would benefit from 64 bit applications, it would make sense to use an Intel Opteron anyway.

I really don't understand how the requirements defined in this thread would benefit from a 64 bit processor.


Originally posted by wanna-be
they're have been many tests done on the AMD 64 (2 gighz) in comparison with the latest and greatest Intel (3.2 gighz Extreme Edition)

most results show they are equivalent. and this is using 32 bit applications.

now think of when Microsoft releases its 64 bit operating system. other software companies will follow suit and release their 64 bit applications. this is where amd will prevail.

[kevie88]

Originally posted by E36M3
I really don't understand how the requirements defined in this thread would benefit from a 64 bit processor.




Originally posted by Hollywood
Main funcions of the PC are , games, internet and porn.




64bit blowjobs y0!!! hahaha! :rofl:

[prosh]

Originally posted by E36M3
Maybe, but if you would benefit from 64 bit applications, it would make sense to use an Intel Opteron anyway.

I really don't understand how the requirements defined in this thread would benefit from a 64 bit processor.



Maybe if an Intel Opteron actually existed :confused:, you'd be able to benefit from one. I'm pretty sure you mean Intel Itanium.

Anyways, either choice is going to give you solid performance for gaming or everyday applications if you're looking at a high end machine. In the end, if you do a lot of gaming, the choice of your video card is going to be the end tail of how well your machine performs for games.

[WhiteNikes]

Originally posted by kevie88







64bit blowjobs y0!!! hahaha! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[E36M3]

Yup. The Opteron is the new competitor to the Itanium that AMD is going to release.


Originally posted by prosh


Maybe if an Intel Opteron actually existed :confused:, you'd be able to benefit from one. I'm pretty sure you mean Intel Itanium.

Anyways, either choice is going to give you solid performance for gaming or everyday applications if you're looking at a high end machine. In the end, if you do a lot of gaming, the choice of your video card is going to be the end tail of how well your machine performs for games.

[accordboi_02]

Originally posted by wanna-be
AMD all the way. with the new AMD64...intel just sux.

With Microsoft almost release of its new 64 bit windows..and a few game companies already releasing 64 bit games....AMD is the perfect way to go.

In fact, some of you say INTEL is better for servers/work use..actually many companies even IBM are switching to AMD64.

Intel sux...Microsoft is slowly relizing it. In fact, the new XBOX won"t be containing an Intel chip.


GO WITH AMD..64 bit processing power man!!

If you really want the AMD 64, make sure you get their 64FX... it has a higher core clock speed... the consumer AMD 64 just sucks ass right now; it gets raped by pretty much any p4 w/ HT.

I'm running an AMD 1800+ right now, and no problems at all with it, but I am also looking at upgrading soon, and I am going to go with a p4 this time... some people say clock speed doesn't matter... all the benchmarks show otherwise.

Another problem with the AMD 64s right now is they don't have a very reliable chipset... the NForce is too unstable, and the VIA sucks ass.

I was planning on waiting for the new 64 bit CPUs from Intel, but they have pushed those back at least another 6 months now (hence the introduction of the Extreme Edition 3.2 p4) and I want some more power now.

If you buy a p4 w/ 800 FSB and HT, I strongly reccomend you go with an Intel mobo w/ their 875p chipset... the intel mobos are REALLY REALLY good now.

You can't go wrong either way, but also take into account that if you go with AMD XP, make sure you have SUPER RELIABLE cooling, or your CPU will be fried in no time... intels are much better at that, as are the AMD 64s.

Good luck, and have fun!!!
:thumbsup:

[Hollywood]

Thanks for all the replies so far guys.


Originally posted by Superesc
He just needs it for porn yo.

And games, and beyond!


Originally posted by rage2

No doubt. 64's mostly hype right now, until there's a full shift to 64 bit apps, the benefits aren't exactly huge. Bitrate is a great marketing gimmick though... remember how the Atari 64-bit Jaguar was supposed to kick all ass against the 32-bit playstations? :rofl:


Hyperthreading is amazing, in the apps that I use, there's a 30-40% gain in performance at the same Mhz. Like a free mini 2nd CPU.

Ya I find the 64 bit thing like HDTV ready. By the time real HDTV comes out in cable there will be a new HDTV2 type thing making the regular HDTV ready one not as good.

30-40% wow! I know the HT is good for apps that are programmed to use it but does HT help general pc activity and games?



Originally posted by accordboi_02
If you buy a p4 w/ 800 FSB and HT, I strongly reccomend you go with an Intel mobo w/ their 875p chipset... the intel mobos are REALLY REALLY good now.

You can't go wrong either way, but also take into account that if you go with AMD XP, make sure you have SUPER RELIABLE cooling, or your CPU will be fried in no time... intels are much better at that, as are the AMD 64s.

Good luck, and have fun!!!
:thumbsup:

Going to go with an Asus, if I go intel its OC'ing time yo!

Cooling will be taken care of, no worries. My current case has 11 fans. And I will using a volcano on this one too.

[legendboy]

Hyperthreading ownz joo!

[eur0]

get the 3.0chip with 800fsb, and a asus p4p800 deluxe, very good combination (intel)

[hampstor]

As someone who sees what people have problems with ... I can tell you time and time again that for processors, BOTH Intel AND AMD make excellent CPUs. What I do see a lot is AMD systems comming back with general problems related to the motherboard. That is AMD's weakest point, reliance on 3rd parties to produce the northbridge on the motherboard. They make an excellent processor only to be let down by SiS and VIA.

Whether you go Intel or AMD, do not cheap out on the motherboard. If going Intel, go with Intel 865/875 based systems. If AMD, go with nForce2 .. specifically Asus A7N8X or A7N8X Deluxe (Revision 2.0 of course). These boards have been around for roughly 11 months and have proven to be rock solid.

[Hollywood]

Originally posted by hampstor
As someone who sees what people have problems with ... I can tell you time and time again that for processors, BOTH Intel AND AMD make excellent CPUs. What I do see a lot is AMD systems comming back with general problems related to the motherboard. That is AMD's weakest point, reliance on 3rd parties to produce the northbridge on the motherboard. They make an excellent processor only to be let down by SiS and VIA.

Whether you go Intel or AMD, do not cheap out on the motherboard. If going Intel, go with Intel 865/875 based systems. If AMD, go with nForce2 .. specifically Asus A7N8X or A7N8X Deluxe (Revision 2.0 of course). These boards have been around for roughly 11 months and have proven to be rock solid.

Cool thanks for the heads up. Let me guess, your the guy with the yellow specV at memory express?

[eur0]

Originally posted by hampstor
As someone who sees what people have problems with ... I can tell you time and time again that for processors, BOTH Intel AND AMD make excellent CPUs. What I do see a lot is AMD systems comming back with general problems related to the motherboard. That is AMD's weakest point, reliance on 3rd parties to produce the northbridge on the motherboard. They make an excellent processor only to be let down by SiS and VIA.

Whether you go Intel or AMD, do not cheap out on the motherboard. If going Intel, go with Intel 865/875 based systems. If AMD, go with nForce2 .. specifically Asus A7N8X or A7N8X Deluxe (Revision 2.0 of course). These boards have been around for roughly 11 months and have proven to be rock solid.

Yea thats what I picked up ASUS A7N8X, the thing runs so well with an AMD 2500 Barton...and its cheaper than Intel