I didn't Want To Believe it (south deerfoot suzuki)

[MrSector9]

So I didn't want to believe all the hype on here about how shady they were becoming... I message Norman who in all honesty is a good salesman and very nice to deal with...

I went down today to look at a limited edition 2007 VW GTI Farenheit, they were closed however I wanted to take a look at the car, Norman did offer to let me look at it in detail tomorrow by meeting me at the dealership and opening for me, which like i said is what a good salesman would do.

However this is where the problem lies, was in looking at the car. refer to this link

http://autotrader.ca/result/detailinfo.aspx?ID=2032880&srcid=5805366&source=27&pgno=1&srt=70&CompanyID=2005422155344706&r=ontario

http://s487.photobucket.com/albums/rr237/southdeerfootsuzuki/VW%20GTI%202007%20Orange-%20P1485/

I will quote the add incase anything changes


Description : Rare Limited Edition 2007 VW GTI Farenheit Edition! #134/150 Fahrenheit Edition. Local Alberta car! Amazing shape inside and out, loaded with DSG transmission, launch control and more! Local Alberta car with a clean Carproof report! Call today, 1-403-262-2222!

OK From across the street and driving in it looked good, quick look over the car and I started to notice things, Notice right away it says a clean carproof.

The left side of the car on the rear bumper you can see it was resprayed and they did not get the inside lip of the bumper, no big deal I thought as it is calgary and it was probably bumped. Looked closer, wait a second the door does not match the trim or the mirror, also repsrayed, front fender also does not match, follow the lines and you can see the line where the tape was on the roof along the rain gutter, wait a second it is still bare primer in spots, check the front bumper piece of it is broken and tore, door does not line up with front fender.

Started looking inside, I am not sure when amazing shape started to mean that the trim ont he passenger side is damaged, the dash itself has tears and so does the glove box.

My main question then is the carproof really clean? if it is then who fixed the car? who paid for it.... why was it not reported? etc? etc?

Best parts of this botched repair job are as follows


body fill drooping on the inside of the rear fender well
miss matched colors
section of roof not painted
section of black rear spoiler is painted
the car still smells of fresh paint, this repair was done very recently
looks like they swapped the wheels on the car from side to side as to not point out the damage


I even thought about it and was like "maybe they never looked at it and it just arrived" well look at the auto trader add, in my opinion they are just trying to sucker some younger person into buying a car that is obviously misrepresented.

Usually I do not do the whole internet complaining thing but after reading the add again and no mention of the car ever being damaged I think this should be made public so hopefully if anyone does buy something from there they definatly get someone to go over the car.

I know Norman cannot do alot of things about any of this but then again he still sleeps at night, guess that is the reason I am a horrible salesman.. I do not hide the details

[nbaker00]

This is a "used" vehicle.. If you want something "Perfect" buy a brand new car.
Everyone will be in agreeance that all used vehicles have flaws of some sort.

Carproof is unreliable in the case of someone paying out of pocket for claims which I cannot control.. The Carproof is clean, and I am going off of that unless someone can go further.

Here is the Carproof for anyone:

http://reports.carproof.net/view_report.aspx?id=C8169FA02FA119

And the more details "Verified BC" Carproof:

http://reports.carproof.net/view_report.aspx?id=C81692A129A819

I am not trying to "hide" any details.. That's why people are free to look/inspect/carproof vehicles before a purchase is completed...

[FraserB]

Maybe "very clean" refers to the car having no dirt on it?:dunno:

# body fill drooping on the inside of the rear fender well
# miss matched colors
# section of roof not painted
# section of black rear spoiler is painted
# the car still smells of fresh paint, this repair was done very recently
# looks like they swapped the wheels on the car from side to side as to not point out the damage

[Team_Mclaren]

That's why every car in the marketplace says "mint". Then let you dig around to find what's not "mint" about it, so if you dont find them, its your fault!:thumbsup:

[GMC99]

Brutal

[MrSector9]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
That's why every car in the marketplace says "mint". Then let you dig around to find what's not "mint" about it, so if you dont find them, its your fault!:thumbsup:

I agree that someone should do the legwork on it.

I did and I am posting what I found, hopefully to prove a point that I am not just jumping on the bandwagon.

As for you Norman there is your true colors, a few flaws is not a complete side repaint of a car that was done horribly and still smells of fresh paint. Maybe if the work was done good it would have been a different story but the blobs of fill on the backside of the rear wheel well... small detail for a $25,000 car isn't it.

Marks on the interior are to be expected, even some marks on the outside.... a complete side repair of a vehicle some on.. is that really what you think?

and no the car was not even very clean, which is no big deal since I know most detail after the unit is purchased but that cannot even be used.

You can see the primer tint through the paint the spray job was so bad in places....

As far as not hiding details, sure you never went out of your way to lie about the car, however at no point did you OR the add say anything about the car being an accident repair, I guess that is just the fault of carproof isn't it? it didn't mention it so you, nor the company you represent needed to mention it either?

If I would have known even the rest of the car was as rough as it was I wouldn't have wasted the gas to go down there to look at a botched car that as sad as it is someone is going to get taken on it.

I also want to point out once again, is if the repair was done correct and a good job then I would not have mentioned it, but it is sad since I know your company knew about all of the repairs before you had purchased the car, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the dealership were the ones that paid out of pocket for the repairs, like I said you can still smell the fresh paint off the car from a few feet away. This either way means the dealership should have a meeting with the purchaser OR the car was purchased at a very low price and either fixed OR was purchased low because of the repairs that were done to it.

[Abeo]

Originally posted by nbaker00
This is a "used" vehicle.. If you want something "Perfect" buy a brand new car.
Everyone will be in agreeance that all used vehicles have flaws of some sort.

The car had an entire side of the car reshot... that is neither 'amazing' nor just merely 'used', and more than just a 'flaw'

you can dance around words, claim ignorance through carproofs, but you know exactly what you are selling... an accidented 'splash and dash'

[Team_Mclaren]

dont get me wrong, im on your side. But descriptions like "mint" and "amazing" shape hardly means anything.

Its amazing how quick nbarker jumped in here and tells you to buy a new car if you want perfect. As im sure most of us has encountered a "perfect" used car.. something that they seem to be unable to delivery from time to time (or fails to distinguish between shitty repairs from amazing shape).

[MrSector9]

I wasn't expecting perfect though either, I know it is a used car it is going to have marks, chips etc.

I also wasn't expecting what I seen, at first I seen there is alot of touched up rock chips in the hood... that didn't bother me, it is calgary, the car is used. no problem.

The next car I went to look at has some marks, even a dent in the hood.. no shoddy repairs though, that makes a huge difference.

Some of the cars south deerfoot had on the lot though were in extremely good shape, some would say mint or close to perfect.. however it only takes one that is listed as "amazing" that in reality is far from amazing to question every other vehicle on the lot.

[2EFNFAST]

I've heard SDS eats babies :o

[GMC99]

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[86max]

Why the personal attacks?


Anyways, to go along with the original topic, I have always wondered what actually makes it onto a carfax report. I thought that if damage exceeds $1000, it has to be reported to police, and shops won't fix the car without a damage sticker. Is it the police that make a note on carfax saying the vehicle has had a repair, or is it the body shop?

The car below has a clean carproof, but it appears as if the front and rear bumpers have been resprayed. Perhaps they were painted because of rock chips or exhaust stains, but I'd think that if a shop had to paint them, it'd still show up on a carproof. Obviously I'm wrong, so maybe someone with a little more knowledge in this area can enlighten me.

I used to think carfax was awesome, then everyone discredited it and said carproof was way better. Now I'm questioning carproof as well.

http://www.autotrader.ca/result/detailinfo.aspx?ID=2032614&srcid=4235891&source=27&pgno=1&srt=10&CompanyID=2005422155344706&r=calgaryalberta

[Mibz]

Originally posted by 86max
Why the personal attacks?


Anyways, to go along with the original topic, I have always wondered what actually makes it onto a carfax report. I thought that if damage exceeds $1000, it has to be reported to police, and shops won't fix the car without a damage sticker. Is it the police that make a note on carfax saying the vehicle has had a repair, or is it the body shop?

The car below has a clean carproof, but it appears as if the front and rear bumpers have been resprayed. Perhaps they were painted because of rock chips or exhaust stains, but I'd think that if a shop had to paint them, it'd still show up on a carproof. Obviously I'm wrong, so maybe someone with a little more knowledge in this area can enlighten me.

I used to think carfax was awesome, then everyone discredited it and said carproof was way better. Now I'm questioning carproof as well.

http://www.autotrader.ca/result/detailinfo.aspx?ID=2032614&srcid=4235891&source=27&pgno=1&srt=10&CompanyID=2005422155344706&r=calgaryalberta Pretty sure the shop does it. I did a check on my old Escort and it had an update from every time I went to the dealership, but never from when I went to Minute Muffler, despite MM doing more significant work to the car. This was Carfax though, I've never done a Carproof.

[benz_890]

There was one on Craigslist/Kijiji for cheap recently that was hit and repaired, this is probably it :rofl: :rofl:

[2EFNFAST]

Originally posted by benz_890
There was one on Craigslist/Kijiji for cheap recently that was hit and repaired, this is probably it :rofl: :rofl:

If true then that's pretty low :rofl:

[Cos]

OP thank you for posting this thread with what you found without resorting to attacks. I think you took your time and did a bang up job.

Go to VW and get a GTi if this is how your being treated at SDS, lots of friends have bought Jetta's and GTi's from Northland and Southside without a hitch of problems (outside the normal VW stuff) on any of their cars.

[bastardchild]

Hes a car salesman for god sake! They are all shady. Its not just him, is literally every vehicle sales person out their. Think about it, they want you to buy the car... that's their only objective.

[Kona9]

Originally posted by bastardchild
Hes a car salesman for god sake! They are all shady. Its not just him, is literally every vehicle sales person out their. Think about it, they want you to buy the car... that's their only objective.

The best part is that he is a teen! Start 'em off early.

[Xtrema]

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k292/NinjakZ/dead-horse.gif

[2Valve0]

A used car salesman is the most pathetic job. This guy lies all day long and tries to rip people off into buying a completely P.O.S. car then jumps on here saying to buy a new car. When a dealership can't tell a customer that they fixed a car with filler and did a crap paint job on it, why would I ever want to give an idiot like this Norman guy commission. I'm pretty sure this is misrepresentation and almost lying about a car. Clearly the dealership knows what happened to this car, and if bought Legal action could possibly be taken could it not? And if the dealership claims they did not know, obviously Norman knows now since he posted on this thread.

SDS= Big Fail and Norman just gave proof he knows all about the damages with the car now, better inform all potential buyers ;)

[Xtrema]

^ That goes for all sales position. You are not going to sell anything pointing out flaws of your product.

I'm sick of these threads. If any of you have half a brain, you should understand the process and the kind of people involved in it. Do your homework and keep "buyer beware" in mind. Don't hate the players.

[2Valve0]

Yes but isn't it illegal to sell a car without fully informing the purchaser of the flaws **IF THE FLAWS ARE KNOWN**
I thought there was some crap with that, if not my bad but I always was under that assumption. Obviously a salesman wouldnt point out flaws but if there was a complete repair on one side of the car, and Norman is obviously aware of this, listing the car a "mint" seems something that could be pursued legally. I am fully aware that when a car is listed as mint there are obviously flaws but a complete fix on one side of the car? come one.

[RMS]

Yea I agree with you 2Valve0, if it's in mint condition, it should have only been minor flaws but repairs on one side should have been noted. Then again, who would really buy a car that's been in an accident :dunno:.

BTW Nbaker, you're sad.

http://www.nexopia.com/users/nbaker0/gallery/7-imported-pictures

[MrSector9]

People can sell things and it has nothing to do with pointing out flaws.

not drawing attention to a scuff or scratch is one thing... this is completely on another level. If you cannot realize that there is no point in posting in this thread.

With the service I have recieved with Norman before finding all this wrong with the car I honestly do not think he needed to be associated with Shady acts to be a good salesman. I do think his posting in here however has changed my own and I would imagine others opinions of him however. Before his post I did not hold anything against him as a salesman/person as possibly he never looked close at the car, it is new on the lot etc. After reading his post however I get the feeling he just doesn't care about the issue.

He could have posted that he would bring it to managements attention on the details of the add and also the work. This would have come across to most as real customer service, however the post he made reflects the "your not buying something, f##k Off"

[RGNRK]

any car dealerships are built to make money not to be your next BFF... Op ur an idiot for making this thread... Buy a brand new car and stop crying about this. :facepalm:

[2Valve0]

Yea agreed MRsector
That's all I'm saying is this is way out of hand even for some waste of life used car salesman. He is HIDING something from
the customer, and I believe that is illegal. I'm glad you brought this to our attention for sure though.

[MrSector9]

I am an idiot for informing a car forum of a shady car at a dealership?

seems like there is an awful lot of idiots on here reporting of dealerships/shops shady practices.

Think of all the people that were swayed in someway by Rage's post about his BMW...

It is posts like this originally that make the shops/salesman/mechanics that are honest good people stand out amongst the rest..

[vengie]

Originally posted by RMS
Yea I agree with you 2Valve0, if it's in mint condition, it should have only been minor flaws but repairs on one side should have been noted. Then again, who would really buy a car that's been in an accident :dunno:.

BTW Nbaker, you're sad.

http://www.nexopia.com/users/nbaker0/gallery/7-imported-pictures


You know whats even sadder??
The fact you just went and searched nexopia to try and personally insult him... :facepalm:

[eglove]

hahaha, I can't believe he searched nexopia for a burn.

[Jlude]

Although I agree with the OP in that the car was misrepresented, But it's a car dealership... nothing personal agains't Norman, but he sells cars. What do you think used dealerships do? Buy only the best of the best vehicles and sell them for a little profit? No, obviously they wanna make as much off each car as they can. Sure it's shady... but that's just how it is. Norman is just doing what he does (of course morally it's wrong), if you don't like it... don't deal with him, it's as simple as that. Sounds like the OP is going to lose more sleep over Norman "ripping" people off than Norman will! hahaha


Every dealership is the same, just SDS is the only beyond sponsor, so they get all the drama.

[canuckcarguy]

Not all used car operations are shady, and not all salespeople, cars or otherwise, are dishonest.

This is a clear case of a salesperson improperly representing the item for sale, and it should reflect poorly on this particular salesperson, and the business he represents. It should also serve as a reminder that car buyers need to do their homework (as the OP was clearly prepared to do).

But there are some great deals on used cars, from both private and commercial sellers. Smart people recognize that it's far easier to sell product that's honestly represented - fewer problems down the road, and a better reputation.

[Xtrema]

^ I don't know what do you want the ad to say?

Complete side painted as good as new?

If it's repaired properly, I don't see anything wrong with description of "mint". If you want perfection, buy a new car.

Even Norm has admitted many times, they buy cars from auctions. There is 0 quality controls and you never know what lands, even with Carproof and Carfax. Do you expect them to throw the car away even if there are major flaws after they received it?

[A790]

Originally posted by RMS
Yea I agree with you 2Valve0, if it's in mint condition, it should have only been minor flaws but repairs on one side should have been noted. Then again, who would really buy a car that's been in an accident :dunno:.

BTW Nbaker, you're sad.

http://www.nexopia.com/users/nbaker0/gallery/7-imported-pictures
You have to be a member of nexopia to see whatever you're linking to, which means that you're clearly a member,

Now THAT'S sad. Everyone knows that you keep your nexopia account a secret ;)

[jdmXSI]

From being in the car business previously, I know carproofs are the best tool in buying or selling a used car. Now I've also seen carproofs show 2 different reports when printed twice. Now, nothing is 100% accurate all of the time. Also when buying a used car, damages under $2000 don't techncally have to be disclosed by law. So I guess my point is even if a dealer has thier own carproof, do your own and ask for thier copy to compare both and make sure they both match. If I remember correctly, carproofs cost about $20-40. Now that's a good investment if your spending 5k+.

[CMW403]

Originally posted by A790

You have to be a member of nexopia to see whatever you're linking to, which means that you're clearly a member,

Now THAT'S sad. Everyone knows that you keep your nexopia account a secret ;)

bingo hahaha

unfortunately i dont have sexopia so i couldnt see his awesome burn

[mattkew]

Originally posted by A790

You have to be a member of nexopia to see whatever you're linking to, which means that you're clearly a member,

Now THAT'S sad. Everyone knows that you keep your nexopia account a secret ;)

What a mature boy

[Matlok77]

Originally posted by Xtrema
^ I don't know what do you want the ad to say?

Complete side painted as good as new?

If it's repaired properly, I don't see anything wrong with description of "mint". If you want perfection, buy a new car.

Even Norm has admitted many times, they buy cars from auctions. There is 0 quality controls and you never know what lands, even with Carproof and Carfax. Do you expect them to throw the car away even if there are major flaws after they received it?

I think you are missing the point...

The car was not repaired properly, but listed as in amazing shape inside and out! = False advertising.

[TomcoPDR]

Well the thing is (I'm staying neutral), buying a used car from a dealership isn't for everyone, with the same merit buying used from private seller isn't for others neither (I've checked out 1st ownership sales where the owners never done transmission fluid change @ 50k - 90k, no records, factory tires @ 100K, :barf: while sometimes a dealership might do certain things to a vehicle once they get it from auction/source)

And sometimes buying an USED vehicle should NOT be an option for some.

The whole notion of purchasing ANYTHING used and from different venues (i.e. garage sales, flee markets, dealership) just falls under "different strokes for different folks"

People (not necessary the OP) do need to look at buying used vehicles more seriously nonetheless, now I'm a little too old to be kissing Norman boy's ass here, but the onus should mostly be on each buyer whenever they buy used items. (not saying this thread isn't good, but imagine if everyone made a thread about flaws or conditions about a used item car/TV/stereos that THEY dislike)

Anyways, as for myself, whenever I'm in the market for a used vehicle, I take it as serious as searching for a marriage... I take days mentally preparing myself as if I was some desperate mid-30 single broad trying to get pregnant/start family, and that every guy has potential (like every vehicle of that model has potential)... But before they get in my pants (like a salesman/car owner get into my wallet-money), they got to meet all (or some or most) of the criterias I've set out.

Also the thing is, Norman was there on his own time and opened the dealership for your private viewing out of regular business hours. How do you measure the value there?

Most importantly, what's with all the personal attacks??? Like it or not, that's what Norman choose to do for a job for the time being. That's the name of the salesmen game. As with the "ads", that's how used car business is done (as far as I know), all part of the lure.

It's like how many of you have thrown an ACCIDENTIAL (I have) sausage party so you deperately call those players with chicks trying to lower the dick ratio, but when they ask about the scene, you spin the situation a little better, like yea there're chicks here... but really it's other ppl's gf's, chubbiers and ppl sisters who might or might not show up.

(not siding with dealers or anything) It is a free market (the sale ad desciption versus OP's preception about the car). Imagine if we didn't allow females to wear make-up? Cause I've never ever said to any girl in the morning "hey wtf easy-girl, you tricked me from what you really look like from last night with your cover-girl "...

Just life man, sometimes it's better not knowing the truth than do.

And how y'all hate someone who has a cutie gf. :dunno:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o165/nbaker0/Cancun%202009/Cancun133.jpg

[Mibz]

<3 Tom

[vengie]

<3 Norman's Gf... geez.

[foreverchina]

http://i480.photobucket.com/albums/rr164/foreverchina/0003-no-wheels.jpg

very mint goood condition $28,000 :thumbsup:

[2EFNFAST]

Originally posted by TomcoPDR


http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o165/nbaker0/Cancun%202009/Cancun133.jpg

Her elbows are too pointy. :thumbsdow

[5000Audi]

Originally posted by TomcoPDR

And how y'all hate someone who has a cutie gf. :dunno:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o165/nbaker0/Cancun%202009/Cancun133.jpg

yeah i bet if any high school kid got to drive lambos and fancy cars to school would have a sexy little girl too..i bet if the funds and cars stopped comming she would be gone in a sec... typical gold diggers...

(thats if its actually his g/f or some random chick at a beach):dunno:

[heavyD]

LOL honestly it's like some of you have forgotten why they make so many jokes about used car salesmen. It's a shady business and always has been. He's got fancy cars, money and just like Donald Trump or any successful businessman he and his family probably had to fuck over a lot of people to get where they are at. Every man that gets rich does it at the expense of others so why do you posters keep singling out one guy that happens to be pretty successful? Every used car lot has sold cars that weren't nearly what was advertised why does everyone expect this Norman and his family to be different? They are in business to make money and it's up to the buyer to put in the work to ensure that they aren't getting fucked over. If you would have bought the car you would have had nobody to blame but yourself. Fortunately you did look hard enough. Good on you but don't blame the used car seller for doing what any successful used car outfit would have. How many negative threads have been started about this particular business yet you all still go and look at their cars because you are all too lazy to do put the time and legwork into finding the right car privately. 'Hell I'll just drive to the local used car dealer and the car of my dreams will be there waiting'. Then you blame the used car dealer because it wasn't.:facepalm:

[Sebasshole]

Originally posted by 2Valve0
A used car salesman is the most pathetic job. This guy lies all day long and tries to rip people off into buying a completely P.O.S. car then jumps on here saying to buy a new car.

Yea this is true when you work at sds,but what do you do when your manager gives you a pos and tells you to he wants nothing less then $ X amount. But i wouldent go as far to call out every single salesman and label there jobécareer as pathetic. Im pretty sure there are plenty of dealerships around that take pride in selling quality used cars. SDS is just not one of those dealers.

And for the people who dont agree and the only reply they can come up with is`Buy a brand new car, then your just a total idiot lol.

[RGNRK]

norman's pretty fuckin hot :love:

[ABteg00]

Originally posted by heavyD
Every man that gets rich does it at the expense of others

all I really have to say is you are an idiot.

[arcticmonkey]

did norman piitb?

[2EFNFAST]

Originally posted by RGNRK
norman's pretty fuckin hot :love:

His elbows are also too pointy :thumbsdow

[heavyD]

Originally posted by ABteg00


all I really have to say is you are an idiot.

:facepalm:

[Ldeibert]

I was just in the position in the last few weeks, and it is f'in frustrating.

I wasted hundred's of dollars and lots of time finding out people are just trying to steal my money....

The idea of this thread is to make it apparent to everyone (that doesn't already know) what SDS' reputation is!!!!




Beyond needs to start a REVIEW sub-forum, where no one can respond to a post like this. Where someone is just trying to help others, by informing them to be weary of SDS...

[GTI_Fahrenheit]

Ugly, why did they add the 2.0T to the rear hatch...

[A790]

Originally posted by ABteg00


all I really have to say is you are an idiot.
You clearly don't know the world of business, but I appreciate your optimism :)

[R154]

I think you should take down that picture. Thats pretty low class no matter what the situation :thumbsdown:

[RMS]

Originally posted by eglove
hahaha, I can't believe he searched nexopia for a burn.

even sadder that i found you as well

eBlend. lol

[canuckcarguy]

Originally posted by R154
I think you should take down that picture. Thats pretty low class no matter what the situation :thumbsdown:

+1

[Disoblige]

Originally posted by ABteg00


all I really have to say is you are an idiot.

lol. :rolleyes:

[LongCity]

Originally posted by R154
I think you should take down that picture. Thats pretty low class no matter what the situation :thumbsdown:

He didn't put up the picture of him and his girlfriend to make fun of him... pretty sure he put that up himself in one of those vacation threads of his.

[Kartelli]

have some class guys...

[bigbadboss101]

Yeah, leave the innocent gf out of it.

You can find a car that has issues regardless if it's at a dealer or private sales.

[ZorroAMG]

Originally posted by ABteg00


all I really have to say is you are an idiot.


Jesus H. Christ.. and you have the nerve to call ME names lately...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: How's the view through your rainbow and unicorn glasses, Nancy?

[thetransporter]

Vehicle History
WVWFV71K47W187769 found in CalgaryFinder.com Database

VIN: WVWFV71K47W187769 Engine 2.0L I4 FSI
Year 2007 Country of Assembly: Germany
Make Volkswagen Vehicle Age: 2 year(s)
Model New GTI Calculated Owners: N/A
Style/Body Hatchback 2D Last Reported Odometer Reading: 34,144
Class

Full History
Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.

Report Run Date:2009-08-06 13:17:15.567 EDT

Vehicle:2007 Volkswagen New GTI(WVWFV71K47W187769)

Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
09/27/2007 AB Independent Source VEHICLE MANUFACTURED AND SHIPPED TO DEALER
09/29/2007 EDMONTON, AB Motor Vehicle Dept. CANADIAN RENEWAL
07/20/2009 CANADA 34,144 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
07/25/2009 KELOWNA, BC Motor Vehicle Dept. CANADIAN RENEWAL