Official Short-term Investments Thread

[Type_S1]

Pipes are always a good place to put money.

Avoid ENB now as I think the market overreacted to the news. I jumped into them a month ago for a long term hold...but sold today. Got paid dividends on Monday and sold for a 18% gain today.

Transcanada, Keyera & Inter Pipeline would be my picks for long term holds right now.

Edit: 25,000th post, do I win a cookie!? This has to be the longest thread on beyond?

[icky2unk]

Originally posted by Type_S1
Pipes are always a good place to put money.

Avoid ENB now as I think the market overreacted to the news. I jumped into them a month ago for a long term hold...but sold today. Got paid dividends on Monday and sold for a 18% gain today.

Transcanada, Keyera & Inter Pipeline would be my picks for long term holds right now.

Edit: 25,000th post, do I win a cookie!? This has to be the longest thread on beyond?

Sold IPL earlier last week for a 40% gain and veresen as well as Keyera. Was thinking of going back into Keyera and possibly Altagas?

Any opinion on ALA?

[Feruk]

Originally posted by Neil4Speed


I looked into it after reading your post.

Seems like a good buy as their operating costs for an OS project seem reletively low. They have definite netback potential even at these low prices.

http://www.megenergy.com/sites/default/files/user_uploaded/images/MEG%20Energy%20Investor%20Presentation%20November%202014%20%28FINAL%29.pdf
Debt/CF of 4X does not scare you?

[Type_S1]

Originally posted by icky2unk


Sold IPL earlier last week for a 40% gain and veresen as well as Keyera. Was thinking of going back into Keyera and possibly Altagas?

Any opinion on ALA?

I think its a good buy at ~$40-42. At this point you can throw into any of the strong infa. companies and make some good profits through March 2015.

[icky2unk]

Sold everything hah, i'll sit out for a bit

[TomcoPDR]

Originally posted by icky2unk
Sold everything hah, i'll sit out for a bit

So scary out there. Taking quite a bit of losses, hope nobody's on huge leverage here.

[max_boost]

Nah the beauty of it is you can always bet on down too. HED! Hang in there boys. If any of you need a meal lol come visit me

[CompletelyNumb]

Originally posted by max_boost
Nah the beauty of it is you can always bet on down too. HED! Hang in there boys. If any of you need a meal lol come visit me


Next beyond foodie meet up. Instead of credit card roulette we can just play russian roulette too. :nut:

[roopi]

Bought into COS today. It's been a while since I've owned this one. Might have jumped in a bit too early on this but I think they are safe with the current oil prices.

[themack89]

Sonnova bitch lol, all this downward pressure and December 2015 doesn't wanna backwardate

[Sugarphreak]

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[Env-Consultant]

Originally posted by CompletelyNumb



Next beyond foodie meet up. Instead of credit card roulette we can just play russian roulette too. :nut:

Haha we were joking about this at the office this morning. Analyst goes on TV and they ask him how the markets are.... just shoots himself.

[civic_rida]

Oil down to 62.90

[icky2unk]

Baytex cut finally. Not surprised, should be interesting tmr.

[themack89]

Come on wheat, drop you cunt!!!

[ercchry]

finally dropped my DOL contracts... with my luck its going to shoot up to $60 or something now, but i'll take my 150% yield :D

[icky2unk]

Well TBE at 81 cents lol.

may as well ride to 0 lol

[slick2404]

Originally posted by icky2unk
Well TBE at 81 cents lol.

may as well ride to 0 lol

haha fuck. same boat.

[themack89]

Haha, you gotta admit its pretty silly for something like oil to drop 5% in a day with no huge news.

[GotRice?]

Originally posted by slick2404


haha fuck. same boat.

Same here, I really like them....

[icky2unk]

Originally posted by themack89
Haha, you gotta admit its pretty silly for something like oil to drop 5% in a day with no huge news.

But But the world is ending because we built inventories and Iran cut demand and China isn't going to want any oil because they aren't going to grow anymore.

Can't wait until everything reverses next year and there is too little supply and over demand and Iran uses more lol.

[Sugarphreak]

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[ercchry]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak



Then again, I may end up losing my shirt... but at least I can go bug Boost for some Chinese food

you dont lose till you sell, as long as they dont go bankrupt in the mean time it just turns into a longer hold... i grabbed some CNQ today... at least i'll get inflation covered with the ~2.5% dividend till shit turns around :rofl:

i feel like once december is over there will be a lot more buying... hopefully today was the last of the year end tax loss selling

[Sugarphreak]

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[ercchry]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
^^ Funny you mention that, Dec 10 is the last fiscal year for a lot of companies and they are trying to write off big losses

perfect... now they all go out to their ski lodges in asssspen for the holidays and talk about where their money should go for the new year... so jan 10th... everything will be up :bigpimp:

[roopi]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak

My old truth in investing quote is "When things look like they will never get better and all hope is lost.... Invest!"

Buy when everyone else is selling. - Warren Buffet

[Sugarphreak]

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[BavarianBeast]

everything looks so good right now.

i might have to pick up some more bellatrix tomorrow

[killramos]

So is our Short Term Investment thread Turning Long Term really quickly?

[BavarianBeast]

When I think long term investment I think 10+ years. I hope to god things bounce back before then..

[themack89]

Andrew Hall trading his fund for oil to hit $50 and then recover in the first half of 2015.

You can probably take his word for it, the man isn't about money anymore. He is about ego

[Sugarphreak]

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[BavarianBeast]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Bid & Ask for all stocks I bought are both lower than the closing price yesterday.

Oh well, I am in it now... no matter how bloody this week gets I will be sticking it out

5 hours later

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Sold everything about an hour ago :rofl:

lol

[Sugarphreak]

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[lasimmon]

How do you make money on MEG when they haven't been this low in forever?

Edit: Did that mean you have cash but was just congratulating the other guy? haha

[icky2unk]

Originally posted by lasimmon
How do you make money on MEG when they haven't been this low in forever?

Edit: Did that mean you have cash but was just congratulating the other guy? haha

Bought yesterday sold today when it was in the green is what he means.

[Env-Consultant]

Sounds like Repsol might finally pull the trigger on Talisman (TLM). Up ~35% already today.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/talisman-shares-surge-amid-new-report-of-repsol-pursuit/article22061574/

Looks like an insider wants that price driven up so he can GTFO

[Canmorite]

Originally posted by Env-Consultant
Sounds like Repsol might finally pull the trigger on Talisman (TLM). Up ~35% already today.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/talisman-shares-surge-amid-new-report-of-repsol-pursuit/article22061574/

Looks like an insider wants that price driven up so he can GTFO

I think it'll go for mid to high $6's. Lots of chatter around the office this morning (I work at TLM). Early Christmas present :thumbsup: :rofl:

[ExtraSlow]

fuck, someone needed to buy talisman that place has been destroying value for years.

Cool thing is I'm betting Repsol will divest a bunch of the Canadian assets, so that'll open up opportunities.

[BavarianBeast]

Originally posted by Env-Consultant
Sounds like Repsol might finally pull the trigger on Talisman (TLM). Up ~35% already today.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/industry-news/energy-and-resources/talisman-shares-surge-amid-new-report-of-repsol-pursuit/article22061574/

Looks like an insider wants that price driven up so he can GTFO

I saw that. That 40% bump is nothing when put into perspective what most investors have lost on it over the past 6 months.

[Env-Consultant]

Originally posted by ExtraSlow
fuck, someone needed to buy talisman that place has been destroying value for years.

Cool thing is I'm betting Repsol will divest a bunch of the Canadian assets, so that'll open up opportunities.

Yeah they haven't done too hot. It looks like their North Sea assets need to be written down as well, which will only further hurt their value. Seemingly all over the place without a whole lot of direction. It doesn't help that they have no replacement for their current CEO.... expect another shift in direction after that, causing further problems, rinse, repeat.

[themack89]

I picked up a thousand shares of Talisman at 4.50, just for a novelty trade. I've never played a buyout.

[BavarianBeast]

Averaged down my Canacol to $2..Too bad I didn't sell more of those damned shares when it was up above $8.50 this year...Oh well.

Article from CG..

https://research.canaccordgenuity.com/_layouts/researchnoteviewer.aspx?pubid=114421

[themack89]

https://brittnyhabibti.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/tumbleweed.jpg

[killramos]

Originally posted by themack89
https://brittnyhabibti.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/tumbleweed.jpg

Huge volumes traded today though....

[ercchry]

yeah looks like the sell offs are over? $55 oil but RRX was actually up 5% today

[killramos]

Originally posted by ercchry
yeah looks like the sell offs are over? $55 oil but RRX was actually up 5% today

I think people are realizing that you can only discount these companies based on short term oil futures for so long.

:hitit:

[themack89]

Originally posted by killramos


Huge volumes traded today though....

I was just referring to the activity on here haha.


Originally posted by ercchry
yeah looks like the sell offs are over? $55 oil but RRX was actually up 5% today

What?? You say its over after oil made a new low today? lol

[icky2unk]

Originally posted by themack89


What?? You say its over after oil made a new low today? lol

Yeah i'm less inclined to jump in when oil has falled $2.50 a day for the past two days yet oil stocks are flat.

Although they were oversold to begin with, $2.50 drops in oil were tanking the market a month ago.

I'm sidelined for now. However I am still contemplating a position in the double bear future on oil for the short term.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by themack89


I was just referring to the activity on here haha.



What?? You say its over after oil made a new low today? lol

im saying its the first day rrx hasnt followed oil to a new low :rofl:

[killramos]

Originally posted by themack89


What?? You say its over after oil made a new low today? lol

Exactly another 2.50 eroded from the price of oil with no real change in the market from friday :dunno:

TSX while not the best indicator was basically flat.

[themack89]

Anyone else get paid off by Talisman? :D

Nice little gift before Christmas!

[e36bmw///]

nm

[icky2unk]

Originally posted by themack89
Anyone else get paid off by Talisman? :D

Nice little gift before Christmas!

Congrats!

[icky2unk]

Markets up big today yes oil down haha.

Short covering perhaps?

[CompletelyNumb]

Originally posted by themack89
I picked up a thousand shares of Talisman at 4.50, just for a novelty trade. I've never played a buyout.

Well played.

[Sugarphreak]

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[woodywoodford]

Originally posted by icky2unk
Markets up big today yes oil down haha.

Short covering perhaps?

I'm hoping it's temporary, not done buying yet :D

[icky2unk]

Originally posted by woodywoodford


I'm hoping it's temporary, not done buying yet :D

I wanted to buy Crescent point in the teens. Maybe I'm being too greedy haha.

I also wanted to buy WCP in the 9s lol

Oil is down $7 in the past 3 trading days yet stocks have traded flat lol. That doesn't seem to work for me lol

[themack89]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
Anybody thinking about BlackBerry?

They just got a major deal with Ford for the new Sync

That's my fav tech stock right now but only for long term hold. I believe in John Chen to turn that bitch around.

[Env-Consultant]

Bought RRX in early Dec. - up about 10% on it right now - happy with it for an oil stock (given the market).

Just really like them as a company/how they operate.

http://www.yourprojectnews.com/raging+river+exploration+inc.+achieves+2014+exit+production_110027.html

[icky2unk]

I am waiting to average down on my RRX but I agree fantastic stock

[BavarianBeast]

:nut:

Some of my stocks are up 20%+ on low volume, odd day.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by BavarianBeast
:nut:

Some of my stocks are up 20%+ on low volume, odd day.

think its thanks to the talisman buyout... hopefully it holds though, there might be light at the end of this tunnel yet :love:

[TomcoPDR]

Originally posted by ercchry


think its thanks to the talisman buyout... hopefully it holds though, there might be light at the end of this tunnel yet :love:

Fml. Sold some CALL to protect my $6 shares before the drop, lesson learn didn't average down as suggested by beyond ballers. Now I'm stuck on those being exercised @ 6 on jan 17.

[woodywoodford]

I took profits on PPY, risky selling now but I just don't see the volume to support these price increases. Not out of the woods yet.....

[icky2unk]

And the market has come off, thank god I got out of some positions an hour ago.

[BavarianBeast]

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0060/6102/products/book_buy_sell_sell_new.jpg?1293888719

[Sugarphreak]

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[Inzane]

Originally posted by BavarianBeast
http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0060/6102/products/book_buy_sell_sell_new.jpg?1293888719

Holy shit that's an old one. My ex from university days, who was a business student, had that exact comic strip pinned on her wall back then. That was literally 20 years ago, 1994.

[zipdoa]

What's the best way to get into trading? I would've definitely purchased TLM @ $4.50, if I had any idea what I was doing.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by zipdoa
What's the best way to get into trading? I would've definitely purchased TLM @ $4.50, if I had any idea what I was doing.

http://www.investopedia.com to learn stuff, then depending on what amount you are looking to invest, probably a TFSA through an online broker (like questrade)

[BavarianBeast]

Originally posted by zipdoa
What's the best way to get into trading? I would've definitely purchased TLM @ $4.50, if I had any idea what I was doing.

Read at least 3-4 books about investing. Find 2-3 sectors that interest you. Research companies in these sectors. Invest it into 3-4 companies from each sector. Sit and wait.

Some books I enjoyed that relate to investing are;

The Intelligent Investor
Beating The Secret
Warren Buffets Shareholder Letters
A Random Walk Down Wall Street
Snowball Effect (Not really investing specific)

[themack89]

Hey guys, I am running a blog now for my trades. I don't imagine many, if any, will be interested from this forum because I won't be Trading stocks really... Mostly commodities, but whatever.

http://naturalfinancial.com

[ercchry]

go RRX, go!!!!!!

[BavarianBeast]

A lot is moving up nicely. CNE, RRX, KEL, BXE,BDI....

This averaging down looks like it might pay off :rofl:

[Phihalo]

Originally posted by ercchry
go RRX, go!!!!!!

Nice, what's driving the price up?

[ercchry]

Originally posted by Phihalo


Nice, what's driving the price up?

everything is doing pretty good, but this is the extra kicker for RRX


Raging River Exploration Inc. achieved its exit guidance of 12,750 boe/d during the first two weeks of December. As a result of our continued success, we now expect fourth quarter 2014 production to be approximately 12,000 boe/d resulting in an increase to our average 2014 production guidance to 10,600 boe/d from 10,500 boe/d.

2014 has been a record year for Raging River, increasing production by approximately 5,000 boe/d and generating 66% production per share growth. This was accomplished without raising equity while spending our cash flow and slightly increasing the debt to trailing cash flow ratio to 0.8 times from 0.7 times.

The Company also materially expanded our drilling inventory through continued land acquisitions and methodical step-out drilling across our asset base. During 2014, we successfully tested 62 previously undrilled net sections significantly de-risking the future drilling associated with the Company's lands. Raging River has greater than 260 net sections of prospective Viking acreage of which 170 net sections have been tested with at least one horizontal Viking oil well.

[ExtraSlow]

Growing company with less debt than cash flow. what's not to like?

[BavarianBeast]

CNE up 40%+ in 2 days. Wonder if they have some block buster news to release.. :devil:

Must say, Peyto has held up pretty good through all of this. Still my #1.

[ExtraSlow]

Funny comparison of two dissimilar companies, RRX and PWT.
RRX, 2014 avg Production of 10,600 boe/d. Market Cap $1.3 Billion
PWT, avg production of 100,000 boe/d, market cap $1.3 Billion.


Obviously, there's a lot more to consider than production volumes, but I found this hilarious.

[tha_bandit]

what are your guys' thoughts on LRE?

[killramos]

Originally posted by tha_bandit
what are your guys' thoughts on LRE?

Generally undervalued, but lots of debt that drags them down. Nothing like MEG but still...

[BavarianBeast]

Originally posted by tha_bandit
what are your guys' thoughts on LRE?

December 16, 2014
Oil & Gas - Dividend Corporations
Stock Rating: SE C T O R PE R F O R M E R
Sector Weighting: M A R K E T WE I GH T
Key Ratios and Statistics
12-18 mo. Price Target $3.50
LRE-TSX (12/16/14) $1.34
Key Indices: None
352-5--week Range Yr. EPS Gr. Rate (E) $1.15-$6.09 NM
Shares Outstanding 193.9M
Float 160.7M Shrs
Avg. Daily Trading Vol. 1,690,000
Market Capitalization $259.8M
Dividend/Div Yield $0.21 / 15.7%
Fiscal Year Ends December
Net Asset Value $4.86 per Shr
2014 ROE (E) NM
Net Debt $719.0M
Net Asset Value Common Equity $994.0M
Convertible Available Yes
CF per Share 2013 2014 2015 2016
Current $1.83A $1.82E $1.36E $1.19E
Prior $1.83E $1.62E $1.58E
Estimates ( Valuation (Dec. 31 Dec. 31))
P/CF-Curr 0.7x 0.7x 1.0x 1.1x
P/CF-Prior 0.7x 0.8x 0.8x
EV/DACF
2014E 3.1x
2015E 3.3x
2016E 3.9x
P/RNAV 28%


I'd buy at these levels, though I think there are bigger and better gold bags to grab right now.

[ExtraSlow]

I think I have owned a lot of that stock for a long time, and it's killing my portfolio. Longer term, I still like them, and I think the Deep Basin assets have great potential. I'm no investment guru though.

[icky2unk]

Markets on fire today damn..

To get back in or not to getb ack in

[ercchry]

so happy today! portfolio is up 24% on the day... RRX jan 17th contracts are in selling range... sold 50/180 so far... just need another $0.05 bounce to hopefully dump the rest, thought for sure i was going to eat it on these ($8 call)

[Env-Consultant]

Awesome day so far. Even for poor old PWT. RRX is on fire, Trican is doing really well too, and MEG is going stupid.

[TomcoPDR]

Should had stocked up last week... wow market going nuts

[Sugarphreak]

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[icky2unk]

TBE up 17 cents today

[BavarianBeast]

Weee.

The fact that my portfolio can fluctuate 30k in a day is scary.

[GotRice?]

CLL is screwed or what?

[phreezee]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
I am kicking myself on MEG, I was sitting there ready to buy shit loads when it was 13.99... then it shot up to 14.61 on the snap quote and I figured I would wait for it to burn out and drop under 14 again a bit later in the afternoon.

I could have been 10K richer today if I had just hit the oder button :banghead:

Lots of budget cuts announced today, I made some gains on MEG and HSE.

[BavarianBeast]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak
I am kicking myself on MEG, I was sitting there ready to buy shit loads when it was 13.99... then it shot up to 14.61 on the snap quote and I figured I would wait for it to burn out and drop under 14 again a bit later in the afternoon.

I could have been 10K richer today if I had just hit the oder button :banghead:

Hindsights 20/20. I think we'd all be billionaires if we timed our buys and sells better.

[themack89]

I am short oil and s&p, but account still hit new highs today.

Damn I love risk spreading :D

[max_boost]

Originally posted by BavarianBeast


Hindsights 20/20. I think we'd all be billionaires if we timed our buys and sells better. :werd: :rofl:

[icky2unk]

Markets cooling off again haha

[ercchry]

Originally posted by icky2unk
Markets cooling off again haha

yup, oil peaked just shy of $59 and is now mid $56s... only got 1/3rd of my RRX contracts sold, oh well... hopefully tomorrow is a better day

[killramos]

Great day for TBE and LRE. They really held through the day.