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Canmorite
10-23-2007, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Toma
I missed the boat on Rimm.... was gonna pick up the options of course on the rumour of the China deal.... ooops! lol
I missed most of the RIMM explosion too. Oh well, I can still play the momo.
7thgenvic
10-23-2007, 11:42 PM
whats the deal with saz??????
Canmorite
10-23-2007, 11:58 PM
Looks good for tomorrow. Back up to 0.24-0.26?
Rat Fink
10-24-2007, 06:27 AM
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Rat Fink
10-24-2007, 07:58 AM
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CaptainReboot
10-24-2007, 08:24 AM
I'm still waiting for my TradeFreedom account to get funded. Damn...missing out.
liquid1010
10-24-2007, 08:47 AM
Originally posted by Rat Fink
So I bought 55,000 shares of KNP at the open today. now halted.
wish me luck! :D
Nice... what'd you get in at? How did you find out about it.... volume scan?
Rat Fink
10-24-2007, 09:02 AM
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benyl
10-24-2007, 09:09 AM
might have to play the momo on KNP today.
Rat Fink
10-24-2007, 09:22 AM
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EG STyLeZ
10-24-2007, 11:23 AM
Originally posted by CaptainReboot
I'm still waiting for my TradeFreedom account to get funded. Damn...missing out.
How are you liking TradeFreedom? I do some OTC trading and i'm getting pissed at the damn trading restrictions they have
Rat Fink
10-24-2007, 12:06 PM
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Rat Fink
10-24-2007, 12:31 PM
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troyl
10-24-2007, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by EG STyLeZ
How are you liking TradeFreedom? I do some OTC trading and i'm getting pissed at the damn trading restrictions they have
I love tradefreedom, have had it for about 6 months now. I however have only traded candian equities.
natejj
10-24-2007, 12:54 PM
In RSG @ .285..... Gawd, I bought this 6 months ago at like 15 cents.... Let go at 24 cents 1 week later though! Hopefully she's good to me again..... :angel:
bigbadboss101
10-24-2007, 01:42 PM
Rat Fink, is your boss on Beyond :-). Good stuff that you are doing well. I might be doing that in the future soon, short term anyways. Job change coming up perhaps.
Rat Fink
10-24-2007, 01:58 PM
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AndrewMZ3
10-24-2007, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by Rat Fink
SAZ on fire. holy shit.
Yeah, I'm kicking myself for selling at 22!
7thgenvic
10-24-2007, 02:27 PM
HAHAHAHAH im loving my buy on SAZ at .21 :) 10 000 shares baby
Canmorite
10-24-2007, 02:34 PM
I bought saz this morning at 0.19. Holding...
CaptainReboot
10-24-2007, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by EG STyLeZ
How are you liking TradeFreedom? I do some OTC trading and i'm getting pissed at the damn trading restrictions they have
So far it's not bad. To use their TradeFreedom Edge, which is the desktop software, I had to open up a port on the firewall though, so keep that in mind especially if you work for a large company.
There are a lot of broken links on the web based platform though, although it could be because my account isn't funded yet.
AndrewMZ3
10-24-2007, 03:26 PM
What's everyone's exit strategy for SAZ? I obviously sold too soon, I'm wondering if I should buy back in tomorrow if a good opportunity comes up.
Anyone looking at SPQ?
7thgenvic
10-24-2007, 08:09 PM
im going to hold on saz....just from a technical basis, the volume is still picking up pretty good. Unless something brutal changes on the open tomorrow, but still. im not too worried
7thgenvic
10-24-2007, 08:09 PM
im going to hold on saz....just from a technical basis, the volume is still picking up pretty good. Unless something brutal changes on the open tomorrow, but still. im not too worried
RX_EVOLV
10-24-2007, 11:21 PM
a PP is in the work for SAZ, i will probably get in on some after the PP close
KappaSigma
10-25-2007, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by RX_EVOLV
a PP is in the work for SAZ, i will probably get in on some after the PP close
What is a PP???
troyl
10-25-2007, 07:43 AM
Originally posted by KappaSigma
What is a PP???
Private Placement.
wylderhoads
10-25-2007, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by troyl
Private Placement.
What does this mean and how does it usually affect the stock price
Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 08:16 AM
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troyl
10-25-2007, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by wylderhoads
What does this mean and how does it usually affect the stock price
Companies issue private placements to raise capital. Institutions and individual investors can subscribe to private placements. Usually holds stock price down to PP levels.
benyl
10-25-2007, 09:54 AM
Anybody understand VMS's news release?
Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 10:19 AM
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benyl
10-25-2007, 10:21 AM
haha, the reason I ask is because of the pull back on VMS. I guess it was a BORSON.
bigbadboss101
10-25-2007, 10:23 AM
BMK halted.
VMS I have some. Would you buy at this price?
Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 10:23 AM
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Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 10:35 AM
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AndrewMZ3
10-25-2007, 10:38 AM
Thoughts on HKO anyone?
Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 10:41 AM
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ShOwOfF
10-25-2007, 11:06 AM
didn't they recently close a PP?
KappaSigma
10-25-2007, 11:12 AM
HKO.VN is going nuts today!
Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 11:21 AM
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Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 11:32 AM
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KappaSigma
10-25-2007, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Rat Fink
HOLY SHIT, insane bids all of a sudden with HKO, almost a million on the bid at .12 in less than a minute! :eek:
Question, where can you tell the bid volume @ their respective bid prices?
Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 11:46 AM
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KappaSigma
10-25-2007, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Rat Fink
Level II quotes.
And these cost extra to obtain right?
Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 11:51 AM
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Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 11:58 AM
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bigbadboss101
10-25-2007, 12:10 PM
It's good to have a large sum to put in and every penny makes a difference!
AndrewMZ3
10-25-2007, 12:14 PM
Anyone looking at VTX?
KappaSigma
10-25-2007, 12:33 PM
Anyone use Tradefreedom online web based trader program??? I am having issues....kind of weird. Possibley hacked???
I am on a demo trail until my account is funded. Here is a rejection for an order. The Notes is what really jumps out at me as an issue.
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Order Detail
Date of Order: 10/25/2007 Order Status: Rejected
Time of Order: 14:31:13 EDT Order Id: 2203204
Detail: Buy HKO.VN 6500 Shares
Limit 0.11$ DAY
Notes: Resources, whatever.
Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 12:41 PM
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CaptainReboot
10-25-2007, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by KappaSigma
Anyone use Tradefreedom online web based trader program??? I am having issues....kind of weird. Possibley hacked???
I am on a demo trail until my account is funded. Here is a rejection for an order. The Notes is what really jumps out at me as an issue.
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Order Detail
Date of Order: 10/25/2007 Order Status: Rejected
Time of Order: 14:31:13 EDT Order Id: 2203204
Detail: Buy HKO.VN 6500 Shares
Limit 0.11$ DAY
Notes: Resources, whatever.
This happend to me as well. It was the ECN that rejected it, so I changed it from FAST to TSX. When I did that it went through.
Are you able to get live venture quotes? I can't get them , until I put an order in and preview it. That's the only time I can see a live quote from the venture. If just just try to look one up, it tells me to see my broker. So basically I'm going in blind, until I preview an order, which doesn't make sense since I need to know the price before I put in an order. WTF?
KappaSigma
10-25-2007, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by CaptainReboot
This happend to me as well. It was the ECN that rejected it, so I changed it from FAST to TSX. When I did that it went through.
Are you able to get live venture quotes? I can't get them , until I put an order in and preview it. That's the only time I can see a live quote from the venture. If just just try to look one up, it tells me to see my broker. So basically I'm going in blind, until I preview an order, which doesn't make sense since I need to know the price before I put in an order. WTF?
I am using a demo ID and password right now until my account is setup and funded. Papework is on its way. Is yoru account a live account I take it?
CaptainReboot
10-25-2007, 01:01 PM
Yeah, my account is live.
I'm still trying to figure it all out.
KappaSigma
10-25-2007, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by CaptainReboot
Yeah, my account is live.
I'm still trying to figure it all out.
How do you like the desktop platform? I have jsut looked at it once. Looks a bit complex, thats forsure.
Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 01:10 PM
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bigbadboss101
10-25-2007, 01:14 PM
.14 man
KappaSigma
10-25-2007, 01:20 PM
Another rookie question: When you see the number of volume, say for example in HKO, around 27,017,752.
Is that the number of shares bought? Sold? Or a net amoutn of the two? And if its a net amount, how do you tell if more are from being sold or bought?
AndrewMZ3
10-25-2007, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by KappaSigma
Another rookie question: When you see the number of volume, say for example in HKO, around 27,017,752.
Is that the number of shares bought? Sold? Or a net amoutn of the two? And if its a net amount, how do you tell if more are from being sold or bought?
It's the net volume... you can't sell something if no one buys it...
KappaSigma
10-25-2007, 01:28 PM
At 0.14. Rat, you be in the money again :)
The power of volume
liquid1010
10-25-2007, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Rat Fink
Well, I sold out of HKO at .125, quick 2Gs. sweeeeeet. Only sold now because I'm leaving the computer to go for lunch and don't want to be in a selloff. It's trading like there are a lot of daytraders in it right now, next couple hours could be messy.
someone with a canaccord account just pitched off over 500,000 shares in one go.
I did the EXACT same thing, and am upset now. I bought shortly before lunch at.115, then got worried and sold at.12 for a tiny profit. Now I'm wishing I would have held :thumbsdow
KappaSigma
10-25-2007, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by liquid1010
I did the EXACT same thing, and am upset now. I bought shortly before lunch at.115, then got worried and sold at.12 for a tiny profit. Now I'm wishing I would have held :thumbsdow
A profit is still a profit!
Rat Fink
10-25-2007, 03:37 PM
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SilverGS
10-25-2007, 03:44 PM
Hmm if that is the case. What is the best way to get in tomorrow morning? Buy at market and hope for the best?
CaptainReboot
10-25-2007, 03:50 PM
I got in HKO just before lunch at .12.
Hopefully the news is good tomorrow.
Rat Fink
10-26-2007, 07:38 AM
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AndrewMZ3
10-26-2007, 07:39 AM
SPQ moving up today. Can someone hook me up with an L2?
Rav4Guy
10-26-2007, 08:01 AM
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AndrewMZ3
10-26-2007, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by Rav4Guy
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Thanks!
CaptainReboot
10-26-2007, 08:18 AM
Is anybody using TradeFreedom this morning? I can't get into my account. I tried calling them and they said that they are experiencing high call volumnes and I don't even have the option to wait. They told me to call back later.
Rav4Guy
10-26-2007, 08:18 AM
np.. they look a bit squished. I'll resize it properly next time. ;)
AndrewMZ3
10-26-2007, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by Rat Fink
Out of HKO at .13 today. Might rebuy lower. We'll see.
good move. it's at .105 right now
Canmorite
10-26-2007, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by CaptainReboot
Is anybody using TradeFreedom this morning? I can't get into my account. I tried calling them and they said that they are experiencing high call volumnes and I don't even have the option to wait. They told me to call back later.
Welcome to discount brokers haha. I've found when there is big news, lots of volume, or a big event happening, all customer service lines are super busy and there are usually problems with logging into their platforms.
EG STyLeZ
10-26-2007, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by CaptainReboot
Is anybody using TradeFreedom this morning? I can't get into my account. I tried calling them and they said that they are experiencing high call volumnes and I don't even have the option to wait. They told me to call back later.
The fuckers screwed up big time this morning. I finally got through after calling for ten minutes, they told me they're having a server error and even the reps can't access anything. No client of tradefreedom can buy or sell a stock, let alone view they're account holdings at the moment. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Rav4Guy
10-26-2007, 08:50 AM
^ wow. They can't manually take down orders on slips?
Canmorite
10-26-2007, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by Rav4Guy
^ wow. They can't manually take down orders on slips?
Maybe he didn't want to pay ~$40 for comish, or...maybe they just won't do it haha.
CaptainReboot
10-26-2007, 09:22 AM
Originally posted by EG STyLeZ
The fuckers screwed up big time this morning. I finally got through after calling for ten minutes, they told me they're having a server error and even the reps can't access anything. No client of tradefreedom can buy or sell a stock, let alone view they're account holdings at the moment. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I've only been with them for 3 days and I'm already thinking of pulling my money out and using someone else.
Rat Fink
10-26-2007, 09:31 AM
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Shaolin
10-26-2007, 09:36 AM
Hey Rat, I just freed up a bit of cash from one of my holdings.. what are you currently lookin at right now or are you just sitting on news?
Rat Fink
10-26-2007, 09:47 AM
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AndrewMZ3
10-26-2007, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by Rat Fink
I bought ATV today at .25, I'd like to see 30 cents before I think about selling.
My only other holding is RSG until that damn news comes out.
Waiting to see what BMK has in store for news. That's about it. Work is a little busy so I can't watch the ticker like a hawk today.
EDIT: holy crap I am out of touch with things. BMK trading again. wow, work is totally in the way.
Yeah, BMK had a 10Mil PP. Do you think it's a good time to buy into surrounding players in the McFaulds area? I'm in on
[email protected] thinking about increasing my position. I think BMK drills in a week or so, so good news should send SPQ up with them.
benyl
10-26-2007, 10:01 AM
TJS up 10% right now. Damn, I was going to buy at $.70...
Rav4Guy
10-26-2007, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by AndrewMZ3
Yeah, BMK had a 10Mil PP.
BMK PP priced at $0.40 per Hard Unit.... wow. Mkt at .80
ShOwOfF
10-26-2007, 10:11 AM
LII for BMK anyone?
Rat Fink
10-26-2007, 10:13 AM
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Rav4Guy
10-26-2007, 10:15 AM
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ShOwOfF
10-26-2007, 10:23 AM
Thanks!
ShOwOfF
10-26-2007, 10:24 AM
I can't believe the market for BMk is still over $.80.
broken_legs
10-26-2007, 10:31 AM
Oil at 92.00
CAD @ 1.04
:nut:
Intensity
10-26-2007, 04:47 PM
what are your guys opinions on hko after the new news?
it ended at .10 today
Canmorite
10-26-2007, 08:46 PM
Great trading day. Thanks to MER, CFC, GS, BIDU and RIMM options :thumbsup:
Supa Dexta
10-27-2007, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by broken_legs
Oil at 92.00
CAD @ 1.04
just a side question, but is this the reason we aren't seeing major jumps at the pump this time around?
any other time oil was heading up, pumps began to jump immediately and high..
Canmorite
10-27-2007, 11:31 PM
Our oil is shipped to the states, refined and sold back to us, and since our buying power has increased dramatically I think thats the reason prices at the pump aren't moving.
EDIT: Also, the price of oil is directly correlated to the price at the pumps.
no_joke
10-28-2007, 01:09 PM
Quick question: How does one get in on the Alibaba IPO? I think that it'll be on the Hong Kong stock exchange- so can you set up your account at most brokerages to be able to trade in overseas exchanges?
Sailz
10-28-2007, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by no_joke
Quick question: How does one get in on the Alibaba IPO? I think that it'll be on the Hong Kong stock exchange- so can you set up your account at most brokerages to be able to trade in overseas exchanges?
I would stay away from that one....
Gainsbarre
10-28-2007, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by Canmorite
Our oil is shipped to the states, refined and sold back to us, and since our buying power has increased dramatically I think thats the reason prices at the pump aren't moving.
EDIT: Also, the price of oil is directly correlated to the price at the pumps.
I was actually looking at gasoline crack spreads the other day (I hijacked a Bloomberg terminal when nobody was looking) and they appear to be at historically very low levels -- it certainly wouldn't surprise me to see pump prices jump very soon.
This makes me seriously consider investing in some of the integrated oil players -- XOM and PCA in particular. Although I feel that fundamentally, XOM ought to be stronger (with its huge refining capacity and distribution network), I'm steered more towards PCA, due to the weakness in the USD.
Now to free up some $$$ ... I've got a shitload tied up in AEM that I may get rid of soon.
Canmorite
10-28-2007, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by Gainsbarre
I was actually looking at gasoline crack spreads the other day (I hijacked a Bloomberg terminal when nobody was looking) and they appear to be at historically very low levels -- it certainly wouldn't surprise me to see pump prices jump very soon.
This makes me seriously consider investing in some of the integrated oil players -- XOM and PCA in particular. Although I feel that fundamentally, XOM ought to be stronger (with its huge refining capacity and distribution network), I'm steered more towards PCA, due to the weakness in the USD.
Now to free up some $$$ ... I've got a shitload tied up in AEM that I may get rid of soon.
I'm not familiar with crack spreads but I've been hearing they are at very low levels. I know its the 'margin' between the price of crude and the price of petroleum products, and since its very low, that equates to a lower gasoline pump price? Not sure...
What about Valero? Huge refining capacity.
I've got some in AEM, ABX and December Gold which I don't want to sell haha.
Gainsbarre
10-28-2007, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Canmorite
What about Valero? Huge refining capacity.
I've got some in AEM, ABX and December Gold which I don't want to sell haha.
Same here...I'm loving gold at the moment (given the uncertainty south of the border), especially AEM with them being completely unhedged and having minimal political risk (I got burned recently by Eldorado and that damn mine closure in Turkey).
Good call with Valero. I'll probably look into call option on them as well. Seems to me that US options (CBOE) are pricier? I've found many undervalued Canadian ones on the Montreal exchange (using Black-Scholes and reasonable implied volatility estimates) -- I'm thinking that it might be because there is less liquidity in the Montreal market and/or there are more speculative players on the CBOE?
Canmorite
10-28-2007, 06:09 PM
I know the price of puts have a huge premium to them lately, which is a bullish sign apparently...
Calls shouldn't be more expensive though, just puts. Theres probably much more efficient pricing on CBOE then MX, and liquidity is probably an issue too. I've never used IV when buying options, don't understand it yet.
Gainsbarre
10-28-2007, 06:22 PM
Ugghh....I almost always have "market withdrawal" symptoms on Sunday evenings. Need to quit checking this thread and think about other things....
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