How can you say no to this??

[911fever]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-M3-WE-FINANCE-2004-BMW-M3-6SPD-HTD-SEATS-XENONS-SPOILER-ONE-OWNER-12K_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em14Q2el1262QQhashZitem518c4780b5QQitemZ350245847221QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks

wow, now that's a clean car for that price. Who says the US is overrated for buying cars from? Easily a 35k+ car here

[Weapon_R]

And after you pay exchange, shipping, and costs to import, you'll have a 35k car that you could buy here for 35k.

[911fever]

Originally posted by Weapon_R
And after you pay exchange, shipping, and costs to import, you'll have a 35k car that you could buy here for 35k.
If the vehicle sells for 25k US (which is probably the reserve)

Price Paid After Exchange: $27,197.56 today's rate of 0.9192
Duty Paid: $1,659.05 duty rate of 6.1%
GST Paid: $1,359.88 Canadian GST is 5%
PST Paid: $0.00 Alberta PST rate of 0%
Air Conditioning Tax $100.00
RIV Fee: $204.75
Your cost after Import & Registration: $30,521.24

and this M3 only has freaking 12,000 miles! And all you need to do to make it Canadian road safetied is DRL's now and an OOP

[top_speed]

Originally posted by 911fever

If the vehicle sells for 25k US (which is probably the reserve)

Price Paid After Exchange: $27,197.56 today's rate of 0.9192
Duty Paid: $1,659.05 duty rate of 6.1%
GST Paid: $1,359.88 Canadian GST is 5%
PST Paid: $0.00 Alberta PST rate of 0%
Air Conditioning Tax $100.00
RIV Fee: $204.75
Your cost after Import & Registration: $30,521.24
Not knowing how the car is.........Priceless

[Grogador]

Don't you need to pay the BMW extortion / compliance letter fee of $3800 or whatever, for them to flip the speedo or DRL's or something?

[heavyD]

Originally posted by 911fever

If the vehicle sells for 25k US (which is probably the reserve)

Price Paid After Exchange: $27,197.56 today's rate of 0.9192
Duty Paid: $1,659.05 duty rate of 6.1%
GST Paid: $1,359.88 Canadian GST is 5%
PST Paid: $0.00 Alberta PST rate of 0%
Air Conditioning Tax $100.00
RIV Fee: $204.75
Your cost after Import & Registration: $30,521.24

and this M3 only has freaking 12,000 miles! And all you need to do to make it Canadian road safetied is DRL's now and an OOP

Houston is a long way from here. At least a minimum of $2k to transport it up unless you want to fly down and drive it up. Always add 5-10% to the cost for miscellaneous stuff.

[canuckcarguy]

And, as stated above, it's the idiotic "BMW" tax that takes its toll. New cluster, plus new heating controls, plus installation and programming, plus eligibility letter, plus recall clearance letter, plus the long wait for the dealership to do any of this...better off buying one here.

[FiveFreshFish]

Originally posted by 911fever
today's rate of 0.9192


That's the interbank rate which is not available to the Average Joe. Currency exchange will cost you a couple percent.

[beyond_ban]

Originally posted by canuckcarguy
And, as stated above, it's the idiotic "BMW" tax that takes its toll. New cluster, plus new heating controls, plus installation and programming, plus eligibility letter, plus recall clearance letter, plus the long wait for the dealership to do any of this...better off buying one here.

Nope, they got rid of that when they harmonized the bumper laws. Change the DRL's and your set... fuck, if you wanted to you could technically et Canadian Tire to do the work if you wanted it done for pretty much nothing.

[jdmsource]

that steering wheel looks pretty rough for 12K miles

[heavyD]

Originally posted by jdmsource
that steering wheel looks pretty rough for 12K miles

Looks to me like a fat fuck used to own it and rubbed his gut getting in and out as all the marks are in the 6-9 o'clock position.

[Wrinkly]

You might wanna check these out before bidding:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Texas-Direct-Auto/Auto-Dealers/Texas-Direct-Auto-ripoff-Misso-9A2X4.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/Company/Texas-Direct-Auto.aspx

[Kardon]

Anyone looking for a USDM M3 I know somebody selling one way cheaper, convertible, w/ smg.

[funkedelic2]

Originally posted by Kardon
Anyone looking for a USDM M3 I know somebody selling one way cheaper, convertible, w/ smg.

How much is way cheaper exactly? With similar milage? Kind of hard to believe but if theres nothing wrong with it i would be surprised that it isn't sold yet.

Thats a good deal for the posted car, 12,000 miles is nothing, just sucks that car has grey interior. I just recently seen an 02 with 7,000 miles for $30,000 and it was completely mint.

E46 M3's are so over priced here. Very rare to see one at a BMW dealership thats under $40,000, in fact an 05/06 at the dealers is over usually over 50k! :nut: With around 20-50kms on it.

https://www.dlsaccelerator.com/webasp/internet_access/feature_sheet_pics.asp?Dealer=53&Del=53&L=1&Stocknum=P2979

https://www.dlsaccelerator.com/webasp/internet_access/feature_sheet_pics.asp?Dealer=53&Del=53&L=1&Stocknum=P3059

Even after all the fees, cheaper than buying local and more variety in the US.

[Kardon]

No its got like 120,000km, just thought I'd plug it.

[Team_Mclaren]

Originally posted by 911fever

If the vehicle sells for 25k US (which is probably the reserve)

Price Paid After Exchange: $27,197.56 today's rate of 0.9192
Duty Paid: $1,659.05 duty rate of 6.1%
GST Paid: $1,359.88 Canadian GST is 5%
PST Paid: $0.00 Alberta PST rate of 0%
Air Conditioning Tax $100.00
RIV Fee: $204.75
Your cost after Import & Registration: $30,521.24

and this M3 only has freaking 12,000 miles! And all you need to do to make it Canadian road safetied is DRL's now and an OOP

:facepalm:

There are good deals to be have in the states but your math fails. You're missing tons of misc items which will easily put you to close to 35k.

[Jlude]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren


:facepalm:

There are good deals to be have in the states but your math fails. You're missing tons of misc items which will easily put you to close to 35k.

Plus the recall leter, which will cut your savings out by itself.

Then there's the chance ( a very good ) that the car has been had some sort of shady damage.

Plus.... it's white with ugly ass grey interior... that interior makes me want to puke

[ragu]

Originally posted by Kardon
No its got like 120,000km, just thought I'd plug it.

how much is he asking?

[Kardon]

PM'd to avoid hijacking.

[911fever]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren


:facepalm:

There are good deals to be have in the states but your math fails. You're missing tons of misc items which will easily put you to close to 35k.

It's not my math. It's simple.
http://www.importcartocanada.info/tools/vehicle-import-price-calculator/

Your recall letter is now able to be done in the US for free, max $250. Transportation would be a pain yes, likely 2k, but lets say you get a 12k mile 04 M3 into Canada for under 35k, you could sell it for 40k. It's way worth buying a car from the US, especially since you don't need to change the cluster anymore.

and I've been to this dealership in Houston personally, they have zero service to anyone, you need an appointment just to look at a car because of how busy they are. They do 20-40 cars a day there, ignore what anyone else says. They have a 3 day buyback guarantee so if you don't like the car for whatever reason, you can return it. So you can buy it, take it to your mechanic, and if he doesn't like it, you can return it. Only dealership I've ever heard of doing that. But as others have said, so much better to buy from the US, Canada is ridiculously overpriced.

[Graham_A_M]

Yeah I've seen some wicked deals on local M3's of 2003-2005. Dont know why you want to waste your time importing THAT one over some of the local deals.

There is a black 2004 I know of that I drive past all the time, I'll get the number off of it next time I see it.

[infiniti.]

e46 m3's are overpriced a lot here, hard to find a good priced one. Plus the e46 chassis is looking dated already.

[Redlyne_mr2]

Don't forget the money that you loose when you try to sell the car. Unfortunately US cars in Canada depreciate quite heavily and are very tough to sell.

[911fever]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
Don't forget the money that you loose when you try to sell the car. Unfortunately US cars in Canada depreciate quite heavily and are very tough to sell.

Really, you think? I see plenty of US vehicles in on trade and people driving and depreciation is about the same as Canadian cars. Really, it comes down to the condition of the car and whether it has rust, well here anyways.

[Jlude]

http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=279830

[xecutivip]

Originally posted by Jlude


Plus the recall leter, which will cut your savings out by itself.

Then there's the chance ( a very good ) that the car has been had some sort of shady damage.

Plus.... it's white with ugly ass grey interior... that interior makes me want to puke


if he likes it he should buy it .

[Jlude]

Originally posted by xecutivip



if he likes it he should buy it .

I agree, it's what he likes, not what I like. I was just commenting... what I like could make other people want to puke.

[911fever]

Originally posted by Jlude
http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=279830


wow.. what a car. So cheap too.
and hey man I agree, the interior of that E46 M3 is disgusting

[Wrinkly]

How about these (in the US):

THIS (http://www.ambassadorautosales.com/scott/BMW/2006-%20nmw-m3-coupe-5754/2006-BMW-M3-5754/2006_bmw_m3_coupe.htm) '06 SMG for $39k

or THIS (http://www.ambassadorautosales.com/scott/BMW/2003-BMW-M3-Carbon-4177/2003-BMW-M3-Carbon-4177--.htm) '03 MT for $25k

or THIS (http://www.ambassadorautosales.com/scott/BMW/2006-BMW-M3-Conv-Red-2206/2006-BMW-M3-Conv-Red-2206--.htm) '06 Convertible for $40k

[max_boost]

Hey Jlude,

Cheapest 02 NSX and only 20k miles, fuck I still want one of these lol

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=259307261&dealer_id=572102&car_year=2002&rdm=1251841667253&num_records=100&model=NSX&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=2002&engine=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=y&make=ACURA&color=&keywords_display=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&position=top&position=top&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceASC&address=90210&advanced=&end_year=2010&transmission=&doors=&max_price=&cardist=580&standard=false&rdpage=thumb

[Jlude]

Originally posted by max_boost
Hey Jlude,

Cheapest 02 NSX and only 20k miles, fuck I still want one of these lol

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=259307261&dealer_id=572102&car_year=2002&rdm=1251841667253&num_records=100&model=NSX&systime=&make2=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&start_year=2002&engine=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&certified=&body_code=0&fuel=&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=0&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&showZipError=y&make=ACURA&color=&keywords_display=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&seller_type=b&position=top&position=top&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceASC&address=90210&advanced=&end_year=2010&transmission=&doors=&max_price=&cardist=580&standard=false&rdpage=thumb

I still want one too.. that car is cheap, but because it's rebuilt. If it was in the mid - high 20's, I'd consider buying it even if it is rebuilt.

That's exactly what you want to look for, an 02-03 with decent mileage.

Why haven't you boughten one yet? hahaha

[Shlade]

i could easily say no....

afterall, its still just another bmw

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by Wrinkly
How about these (in the US):

THIS (http://www.ambassadorautosales.com/scott/BMW/2006-%20nmw-m3-coupe-5754/2006-BMW-M3-5754/2006_bmw_m3_coupe.htm) '06 SMG for $39k


Fuck, dont go with SMG, man... its a fantastic tranny when it works great, but its a cluster-fuck of technology & sensors. When one little thing doesn't work, expect the whole tranny to act up, and thus have quite expensive repair bills. I wish my tranny was a conventional 6 speed.:(

A *LOT* of other people with the SMG tranny have simular things to say about it... ALL bad of course:whipped:


Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
Don't forget the money that you loose when you try to sell the car. Unfortunately US cars in Canada depreciate quite heavily and are very tough to sell.
I dont think so, I imported my car because I wanted a car thats never seen a snow-flake. Locally? its harder to tell. I've noticed no difference in prices at all between US imports VS. Original Canadian vehicles..
In fact some people want a US car for the same reasons I did, so they'll always be buyers for both. :dunno:

[scat19]

The grey interior is nasty!

And the seat has a lot of wear for 18kms....

And the white e92 is absolute sex. I bet it sounds amazing with the exhaust set up.

And smg blows, everybody knows that!

[Jlude]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M


Fuck, dont go with SMG, man... its a fantastic tranny when it works great, but its a cluster-fuck of technology & sensors. When one little thing doesn't work, expect the whole tranny to act up, and thus have quite expensive repair bills. I wish my tranny was a conventional 6 speed.:(

A *LOT* of other people with the SMG tranny have simular things to say about it... ALL bad of course:whipped:



I wasn't aware the Z4 came with SMG... only the steptronic.

[funkedelic2]

Originally posted by Jlude


I wasn't aware the Z4 came with SMG... only the steptronic.

I think Z4M might.. but not sure. Pretty sure z4s only had step as well, maybe hes just refering to the SMG on M3s but has an auto and just wishes it was a stick?

[infiniti.]

Originally posted by funkedelic2


I think Z4M might.. but not sure. Pretty sure z4s only had step as well, maybe hes just refering to the SMG on M3s but has an auto and just wishes it was a stick?

Nope the non M z4's come with smg as well

[Jlude]

Originally posted by infiniti.


Nope the non M z4's come with smg as well

I still don't believe you.

I've driven an M coupe and Z4 and the dealer told me that only the M3, M5 and M6 came with SMG.

Everything else was steptronic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrohydraulic_manual_transmission

Wikipedia says it only came in the list of cars on their site... and that would be for BMW, the M3, M5, M6.

[Everlast]

This magazine is reviewing a z4 smg
Link (http://www.europeancarweb.com/longtermers/0406ec_2003_bmw_z4_2_5_smg/index.html)

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by Jlude


I still don't believe you.

I've driven an M coupe and Z4 and the dealer told me that only the M3, M5 and M6 came with SMG.

Everything else was steptronic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrohydraulic_manual_transmission

Wikipedia says it only came in the list of cars on their site... and that would be for BMW, the M3, M5, M6.

Okay, I'd be more then happy to show you my car in person. Yes Im 100% certain it is the full fledged SMG tranny. Not only does it say that on the vehicle build sheet, it says that on the shift knob and in the owners manual, as well as the dealership records stating ALL the info on my car. Only the *non-m* Z4's can come with the optional SMG tranny (known as SMG1, not the newer version the newer 3 & 5 series that come with the revamped SMG2)

Here are all the trannys (along with the corresponding engines) the Z4's came with (not including the 2.2L euro released engine)

Z4M: 6 speed manual.
Z4: 2.5L 5speed manual, 5 speed automatic, 5 speed automatic with optional steptronic transmission (probably what your mis-informed dealer rep was thinking of) or lastly, the 6speed SMG
Z4 3.0I and 3.0SI 6 speed manual (same tranny as Z4M) 5 speed automatic, or 5 speed automatic with the same trannies as offered as with the 2.5L being the steptronic. Lastly, the 6speed SMG which is what I have.

What may have confused the dealer is that with the automatic, you can put the tranny into semi-manual, (basically) simular to what the SMG is. But no they are very separate trannies, although they do have their distinct similarities

People at the dealers can often be mistaken, a few days ago this lot attendant at Calgary BMW couldn't start my car because he didn't know the tranny has to be in Neutral, with the foot on the brake for it to start. I wouldn't be too trusting of everybody in general since there is a LOT of differences between all the models that are difficult to keep track of. :dunno:

[Danny Meehan]

Originally posted by 911fever
you can buy it, take it to your mechanic, and if he doesn't like it, you can return it. Only dealership I've ever heard of doing that.
I find that interesting 911, as I've seen dealerships here in Europe that use similar strategies to bring clients in.
The difference is there are fees of varying value associated, in the case the client returns the vehicle.

[911fever]

Originally posted by Danny Meehan

I find that interesting 911, as I've seen dealerships here in Europe that use similar strategies to bring clients in.
The difference is there are fees of varying value associated, in the case the client returns the vehicle.

yeah that's never offered here. Once you buy a car, it's a done deal. It's like a contract!

[skyline4ever]

there are allot more cars out there i would rather have for the same price:dunno:

[scat19]

Originally posted by skyline4ever
there are allot more cars out there i would rather have for the same price:dunno:

Good for you. Move on.


There are 330's with SMG tranny. Stupid, stupid rare though, it was another 4-6 K option over Steptronic.

The Z4 non-m SMG is just as rare.

Jlude - don't believe everything ANYONE tells you or not.

I'll go in the BMW dealer, say E46, and they give you the stupid look.

[Graham_A_M]

^ I've seen a few other SMG equipped Z4's in and around town. Calgary BMW seems to find a fair share of them. They had a (stupidly overpriced) Blue one like mine with it, and a few others since then.
Yeah the SMG was originally a very expensive add-on, one that I'd be kicking myself for choosing if I were to buy this car new.
Yes, its a *FANTASTIC* tranny when everything is working great (its hard not to love the perfect rev-matches it does each time you downshift as one of many examples) but its WHEN the car racks up the KM's and the tranny starts to develop quirks that it quickly becomes not-so-fantastic anymore.

[Jlude]

Originally posted by scat19


Good for you. Move on.


There are 330's with SMG tranny. Stupid, stupid rare though, it was another 4-6 K option over Steptronic.

The Z4 non-m SMG is just as rare.

Jlude - don't believe everything ANYONE tells you or not.

I'll go in the BMW dealer, say E46, and they give you the stupid look.

Fair enough.

[Zhariak]

Originally posted by 911fever
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-M3-WE-FINANCE-2004-BMW-M3-6SPD-HTD-SEATS-XENONS-SPOILER-ONE-OWNER-12K_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4634Q2ec0Q2em14Q2el1262QQhashZitem518c4780b5QQitemZ350245847221QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks

wow, now that's a clean car for that price. Who says the US is overrated for buying cars from? Easily a 35k+ car here

Hmm, how could I say no?

It's a BMW!!! It's easy!

[Isaiah]

Originally posted by scat19

I'll go in the BMW dealer, say E46, and they give you the stupid look.
It's not what you're saying, it's what you're wearing that's getting you the stupid looks.

Tinted contact lenses FTL. :(

[Wrinkly]

He's right, though. I was in the Gallery recently, mentioned ZHP and the salesman looked at me blankly and said "What's that?"

[911fever]

Originally posted by Isaiah

It's not what you're saying, it's what you're wearing that's getting you the stupid looks.

Tinted contact lenses FTL. :(

hahahahaahhahahaahahahaha

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M

I dont think so, I imported my car because I wanted a car thats never seen a snow-flake. Locally? its harder to tell. I've noticed no difference in prices at all between US imports VS. Original Canadian vehicles..
In fact some people want a US car for the same reasons I did, so they'll always be buyers for both. :dunno:
Most Z4s don't see winters up here but I hear what you're saying. I'm just talking from my experience. We won't take US cars in on trade and many dealers follow the same habits. A clean 1 owner Canadian car(especially local) will always sell before a clean 1 owner US car. :dunno: :)

[C4S]

Bottom line ..

Who wants a WHITE on GREY M3 here?? :dunno:

Buy it now is $29800 US .. so afterall, close to $40K cad landed.



Yes, it is cheap to buy US car, and it is cheap to SELL it too .. ( friend of mine was trying to sell his BMW, even he bought it from US BRAND new .. but took him 6 month, and sold ~$5K less then same condition/km Canadian model )

:dunno: Unless you can save close to $10K ... otherwise .. not worth!

( By the way, I dont know how insurance company will pay for a US car if it is total lost, base on US kelly blue book? or Canadian black book? ):dunno:

[911fever]

Originally posted by C4S
Bottom line ..

Who wants a WHITE on GREY M3 here?? :dunno:

Buy it now is $29800 US .. so afterall, close to $40K cad landed.



Yes, it is cheap to buy US car, and it is cheap to SELL it too .. ( friend of mine was trying to sell his BMW, even he bought it from US BRAND new .. but took him 6 month, and sold ~$5K less then same condition/km Canadian model )

:dunno: Unless you can save close to $10K ... otherwise .. not worth!

( By the way, I dont know how insurance company will pay for a US car if it is total lost, base on US kelly blue book? or Canadian black book? ):dunno:

how the hell would it be 40 grand landed?

[Wrinkly]

He did say CLOSE to 40k - I can get it up to just over $38k and that's without BMW's recall letter fee and whatever cost is involved with changes that must be made to the vehicle

Exchange rate is 1.077
6.1% Duty
5% GST
I allowed $2000 for shipping or travel/gas/incidentals
$210 RIV fee
$300 for the inspection (varies, I know)

total comes to $38,254 based on that :dunno:

As I said, that's without any mandatory modifications required.