10:00pm....Telus texting not working again????

[Canucks3322]

Anybody else having problems??? I haven't received responses so I tried sending 2 msgs to myself....nothing....fuuuuuck. AGAIN?!?!

[dirtsniffer]

haha if you send a text message to yourself does that mean you have to pay twice? lol
that sucks.. it also bothers me that instant message is rarely instant

[revelations]

Stupid Telus dildos. Their service got so bad that the Telus building in Vancouver got shot a few times.

A friend who is on Telus mobility gets her text messages at 3am.... nothing like being woken up to a bunch of meaningless chatter.

[Palmiros]

Telus.. enough said.

[Numi]

if i send telus - rogers its pretty much instant but if i sen telus - telus it takes forever to go through.

Telus sucks.:thumbsdow

[JordanEG6]

Telus is garbage.

I'd send texts, and my recipients would get them hours later, sometimes, a day late. I hate Telus.

[Mar]

I was having major issues with their data connection yesterday, received about 10 Facebook messages on my Blackberry and every time I tried to read it, it would log me out.

And their texting system might be ancient but their voice system makes up for it.

[masoncgy]

I firmly believe that the world isn't going to end over land disputes, religious differences or resource domination... rather, the loss of instant messaging will be the downfall of our society as we know it.

hahaha... can't you just pick up the phone if you need to speak to someone soooo badly?

Oh wait... that's one step from in person contact... we can't have that!

lol... sorry, I had a good laugh.

[Dumbass17]

haha yeah i've been having issues with telus lately

i sent my roommate a text at around 11am the other day. we were hanging out around 8pm and his phone beeped and it was the text haha

[scat19]

Telus blows. CDMA is old tech.

My girl has a telus phone, I get her responses hours late.

Rogers FTW.

[RY213]

Originally posted by Mar
I was having major issues with their data connection yesterday, received about 10 Facebook messages on my Blackberry and every time I tried to read it, it would log me out.


This was happening to me as well...

[sputnik]

Seriously? A thread needed to be started about Telus texting being down?

Really?

:facepalm:

[Mar]

Originally posted by scat19
Telus blows. CDMA is old tech.

My girl has a telus phone, I get her responses hours late.

Rogers FTW.

old CDMA > TDMA

[scat19]

Originally posted by Mar


old CDMA > TDMA

<GSM

[Mar]

Originally posted by scat19


&lt;GSM
GSM = TDMA

[msommers]

Originally posted by masoncgy
I firmly believe that the world isn't going to end over land disputes, religious differences or resource domination... rather, the loss of instant messaging will be the downfall of our society as we know it.

hahaha... can't you just pick up the phone if you need to speak to someone soooo badly?

Oh wait... that's one step from in person contact... we can't have that!

lol... sorry, I had a good laugh.

It's not so much a complete disaster, as it is a pain in the ass. Imagine the email service at the office worked 80% of the time, and when it went down was completely random. Sure you can call someone but that's not the point, it's a service that should be working and the fact it doesn't all the time, is an inconvenience no matter how you try to spin it.

Texting has advantages over calling, in that, if you're on the bus, train etc not everyone needs or wants to hear about your conversation and you can have multiple conversations at once. It's just another means of communication, I really don't see how it is more or less personal than calling.

[spikerS]

texting is the only example that i can think of where consumers actually embraced a step or 3 BACKWARDS in technology, and going back to a pager...

[scat19]

Originally posted by Mar

GSM = TDMA

How is CDMA better than GSM? Everyone complaining on here is a result of CDMA.

Heck, bell/telus are building a GSM network. Because CDMA blows.

[Mar]

Originally posted by scat19
How is CDMA better than GSM? Everyone complaining on here is a result of CDMA.

Heck, bell/telus are building a GSM network. Because CDMA blows.
I've outlined it several times before, not sure if I feel like writing that book again.

But if you feel that strongly about it, post the technical limitations of both security and network capacity on a per tower level. I've studied the CDMA technology and how it works, I've had discussions about its limitations and capabilities with network specialists, I've talked to the guys that service the towers, I've been in the tower control centres and I worked at Telus for over 1.5 years. It doesn't matter which provider sends through more of your text messages, overall CDMA is a more advanced technology over TDMA (GSM) on every level that I know of.

Telus isn't building a GSM based network because it's better, they're doing it because someone guy that gets paid millions told them there's revenue there. If there's revenue in it, they're going to do it.

[spikerS]

and telus is NOT building a GSM network.

they are building a HSPA network.

fucking morons all think that because there is a SIM card involved, it must be GSM. :banghead:

[Q-TIP]

Originally posted by spikers
and telus is NOT building a GSM network.

they are building a HSPA network.

fucking morons all think that because there is a SIM card involved, it must be GSM. :banghead:

Well, HSPA is an evolution of 3G GSM so in that sense they are building a GSM network.

However just because GSM is the tech of choice the world over does not mean that it is the superior technology. It is limited to lower quality voice communication and higher lost data rates.

The reason Telus is moving towards GSM is not because it is a better technology, but because it is more prevalent. Because of this more phones are designed for HSPA networks than high speed CDMA networks. The Bold, iPhone and other new Android based phones are taking huge market share and CDMA carriers are getting the shaft.

That is why Telus is migrating.

[scat19]

Originally posted by Mar

I've outlined it several times before, not sure if I feel like writing that book again.

But if you feel that strongly about it, post the technical limitations of both security and network capacity on a per tower level. I've studied the CDMA technology and how it works, I've had discussions about its limitations and capabilities with network specialists, I've talked to the guys that service the towers, I've been in the tower control centres and I worked at Telus for over 1.5 years. It doesn't matter which provider sends through more of your text messages, overall CDMA is a more advanced technology over TDMA (GSM) on every level that I know of.

Telus isn't building a GSM based network because it's better, they're doing it because someone guy that gets paid millions told them there's revenue there. If there's revenue in it, they're going to do it.

Hmmm. You have much more first hand experience than I. I'm going from a consumer level.

Up to 21MBPS data transfer/on time texts/better voice coverage is what I see. From all my friends that have telus and my friends that have rogers, it's an easy comparison to make at my level.

The fastest I found advertised, was telus serria USB modem - 800KBPS down.



Originally posted by spikers
and telus is NOT building a GSM network.

they are building a HSPA network.

fucking morons all think that because there is a SIM card involved, it must be GSM. :banghead:

Cool your jets. Read the post above.

[spikerS]

Originally posted by Q-TIP


Well, HSPA is an evolution of 3G GSM so in that sense they are building a GSM network.

However just because GSM is the tech of choice the world over does not mean that it is the superior technology. It is limited to lower quality voice communication and higher lost data rates.

The reason Telus is moving towards GSM is not because it is a better technology, but because it is more prevalent. Because of this more phones are designed for HSPA networks than high speed CDMA networks. The Bold, iPhone and other new Android based phones are taking huge market share and CDMA carriers are getting the shaft.

That is why Telus is migrating.

do you always pull shit from your ass?

HSPA is an evolution of WCDMA.

Telus and Bell are building the HSPA network in the hopes of catching more roaming revenue, as many of the worlds largest providers have stated that they will be moving to HSPA as well and eventually LTE. Another reason that this will be rolled out in time for the Vancouver Olympics.

The only thing you had correct there was that GSM was more prevalent, but again, that ties into my above point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access


HSDPA and HSUPA provide increased performance by using improved modulation schemes and by refining the protocols by which handsets and base stations communicate. These improvements lead to a better utilization of the existing radio bandwidth provided by WCDMA.

HSPA improves the end-user experience by increasing peak data rates up to 14 Mbit/s in the downlink and 5.8 Mbit/s in the uplink. It also reduces latency and provides up to five times more system capacity in the downlink and up to twice as much system capacity in the uplink, reducing the production cost per bit compared to original WCDMA protocols. HSPA increases peak data rates and capacity in several ways:

* Shared-channel transmission, which results in efficient use of available code and power resources in WCDMA
* A shorter Transmission Time Interval (TTI), which reduces round-trip time and improves the tracking of fast channel variations
* Link adaptation, which maximizes channel usage and enables the base station to operate close to maximum cell power
* Fast scheduling, which prioritizes users with the most favorable channel conditions
* Fast retransmission and soft-combining, which further increase capacity
* 16QAM (Quadrature Amplitude Modulation), which yields higher bit-rates

HSPA has been commercially deployed by over 200 operators in more than 80 countries.

[Q-TIP]

reading up on my info...

[Q-TIP]

Originally posted by spikers


do you always pull shit from your ass?

HSPA is an evolution of WCDMA.

Telus and Bell are building the HSPA network in the hopes of catching more roaming revenue, as many of the worlds largest providers have stated that they will be moving to HSPA as well and eventually LTE. Another reason that this will be rolled out in time for the Vancouver Olympics.

The only thing you had correct there was that GSM was more prevalent, but again, that ties into my above point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_Packet_Access




You sir are the one pulling shit from your ass. wCDMA is 3g GSM. Please read you own source of info.




Originally posted by spikers' source

W-CDMA (Wideband Code Division Multiple Access), UMTS-FDD, UTRA-FDD, or IMT-2000 CDMA Direct Spread is an air interface found in 3G mobile telecommunications networks. It is the basis of Japan's NTT DoCoMo's FOMA service and the most-commonly used member of the UMTS family and sometimes used as a synonym for UMTS.[1] It utilizes the DS-CDMA channel access method and the TDD duplexing method to achieve higher speeds and support more users compared to most time division multiple access (TDMA) schemes used today.
While not an evolutionary upgrade on the airside, it uses the same core network as the 2G GSM networks deployed worldwide, allowing dual-mode operation along with GSM/EDGE; a feat it shares with other members of the UMTS family.

[spikerS]

thanks for proving my point.

[Q-TIP]

The CDMA networks in North America do not use wCDMA. The GSM carriers use wCDMA. To call Rogers a GSM provider is actually inaccurate since the roll out of 3g. 3g combines both TDMA and CDMA technologies to increase throughput. I did not prove anything except that you are the one who is making unfounded points.

So if you call Rogers (HSPA) a GSM network, then you must also by the same logic call the new Telus network GSM. Though neither provider actually uses GSM anymore.

HOWEVER since wCDMA (the precursor to HSPA) is based and works on the GSM core and does not work on the CDMA core, then it is more closely related to GSM than it is to strict CDMA.

[spikerS]

again, you just proved my point.

it is all code division multiple access, and never once did i claim the HSPA network to be EITHER CDMA or GSM.

What I am saying is that it is the next generation of Code Division Multiple Access technology.

[Q-TIP]

Bike racks, 3:30...
















We are arguing the same point. Hate when I do that.

[Mar]

EDIT - reread my post and realized I wasn't making sense.

[a social dsease]

BUMP - Anyone else having problems texting today (Sept 30)?

[Graham_A_M]

^ No, texting is working fine for me. I've never had any issues with Telus at all, so this was kind of an interesting thread. :nut:

[Ven]

Originally posted by a social dsease
BUMP - Anyone else having problems texting today (Sept 30)?

All kinds, starting about 10pm last night. Seems normal for Telus, heck I'm happy if I can get some messages a couple hours after they've been sent.

[raceman6135]

No problems here: texting and internet working fine all day long.

I'm in NW Calgary, btw.

[Mibz]

No problems here.