Anti-Abortionists on Campus Again

[Nusc]

Seriously, these guys piss me off. They keep getting kicked out and coming back. What's the issue here? Didn't they charge several students with non-academic misconduct last year?

I thought they imposed something to prevent them from protesting on campus?

[flipstah]

Originally posted by Nusc
Seriously, these guys piss me off. They keep getting kicked out and coming back. What's the issue here? Didn't they charge several students with non-academic misconduct last year?

I thought they imposed something to prevent them from protesting on campus?

They're appealing that misconduct from last year but judging by today, that's totally fucked up now.

:barf:

[syeve1]

How does the saying go?

If a women choses not to be a parent, she is pro-choice. If a man decides not to be a parent he is a deadbeat. :devil:

[Eleanor]

Yeah, saw them today.

Still say I show them a picture of someone having sex with a goat to protest bestiality :dunno:

[Zero102]

I saw one guy start kicking down the signs, and I actually agree with him. I have no input on the pro-life or pro-choice debate, but seriously, take that shit somewhere else.

Why does campus security not take further action? They put up a couple of signs that basically say "we told them not to, but they did it anyways" but that is all they appear to have done. Is that really the attitude that campus security takes? They have no obligation to allow them to set up their display, so take it down and confiscate the pieces.

[FraserB]

Beyond meet at U of C protests now?

[mazdavirgin]

It is public property as established last time due to the university being funded by the province. They can protest till the cows go home just like you can setup a protest to protest their protest. Free speech means you don't get to pick and choose the speech. You can't expect people to just speak your point of view.

[syritis]

Originally posted by Eleanor
Yeah, saw them today.

Still say I show them a picture of someone having sex with a goat to protest bestiality :dunno:

Join the protest with signs of the most perverted and explicit content known to mankind. give them some publicity in the way they don't want.

[masoncgy]

Parasites.

Don't like abortions, don't get one! It's that simple.

[bball2]

Haha I love those signs from the UofC :rofl:

[sputnik]

Someone needs to take a bunch of pictures of the people and displays.

We could get a pretty good photoshop thread started!

[D'z Nutz]

wait a minute! That wasn't the poster sale? What the hell did I just buy?

[Zhariak]

/pwned

[G-ZUS]

Originally posted by syritis


Join the protest with signs of the most perverted and explicit content known to mankind. give them some publicity in the way they don't want.


TUBGIRL, LUDEGIRL. GOATSECX, 2GIRLS1CUP, 1 GUY1JAR, 1PRIIEST1NUN, theres gotta be more

[Tarrantula]

PICS?!?!?!?!!


Am I the only one who WANTS to see what they are putting up? all this talk and no pics makes me something something..

[Super_Geo]

Ok, here's what needs to be done:

1. Take photos of the actual people doing the protesting, make sure you get a good view of their signs in the photos.
2. Photoshop their signs to be pro-abortion instead of anti-abortion.
3. Post up the photoshopped pictures around campus so it looks like they're supporting abortion.

It's a very non-confrontational way to get them the fuck out of there :thumbsup:

[cycosis]

^ I like

[calgary_89]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz
wait a minute! That wasn't the poster sale? What the hell did I just buy?


your avatar is so disturbing.

[Nusc]

Originally posted by Super_Geo
Ok, here's what needs to be done:

1. Take photos of the actual people doing the protesting, make sure you get a good view of their signs in the photos.
2. Photoshop their signs to be pro-abortion instead of anti-abortion.
3. Post up the photoshopped pictures around campus so it looks like they're supporting abortion.

It's a very non-confrontational way to get them the fuck out of there :thumbsup:


Provided you don't get caught. I think that may entitle you to non-academic misconduct.

[goodmusic]

I saw like 5 or 6 year old kids running around with the protesters today. That's even more messed up

[590221010]

Originally posted by goodmusic
I saw like 5 or 6 year old kids running around with the protesters today. That's even more messed up
I saw them too wtf :dunno:

[Zhariak]

Originally posted by goodmusic
I saw like 5 or 6 year old kids running around with the protesters today. That's even more messed up

They are probably just pissed that they didn't know about birth control and popped some kids out that ruined their life...

Now they feel it is the worlds fault, so they are trying to make everyone else get preggo.

[Super_Geo]

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/calgary/life+club+tests+resolve+with+renewed+campaign/2026389/1252042.bin


Leah Hallman president of the Campus Pro-Life club speak to the media on their rights to hold a protest on campus grounds.

Here's her facebook profile, in case you know... you want to congratulate her... or add her and then post her personal photos online for photoshopping:
http://www.facebook.com/leahhallman?ref=search&sid=81008359.1078612764..1

[mazdavirgin]

Originally posted by Super_Geo
Here's her facebook profile, in case you know... you want to congratulate her... or add her and then post her personal photos online for photoshopping:
http://www.facebook.com/leahhallman?ref=search&sid=81008359.1078612764..1

So you are going to harass her for holding a view that is offensive/opposite to your own? :facepalm: It's nice to see how free speech is celebrated in this country...

[adam c]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin


So you are going to harass her for holding a view that is offensive/opposite to your own? :facepalm: It's nice to see how free speech is celebrated in this country...

http://tissue.win.mofcom.gov.cn/www/19%5Ctissue%5Cimg%5C2007111914537.jpg

[zipdoa]

Originally posted by Super_Geo
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/calgary/life+club+tests+resolve+with+renewed+campaign/2026389/1252042.bin



Here's her facebook profile, in case you know... you want to congratulate her... or add her and then post her personal photos online for photoshopping:
http://www.facebook.com/leahhallman?ref=search&sid=81008359.1078612764..1


hahaha looks like a bible thumping twat - find something better to protest, babies will always be dying!

i sent her a message indicating that I eat babies.

let the trolling begin.

[huck]

Anyone in the Soci 201 class this morning? We're actually talking about it.

[ReflexFX]

Anybody see the piece of paper attatched the one of the posters saying "PROBLEM SOLVED" with a condom attached to it?
I :rofl: when i saw it.

[A790]

Originally posted by Super_Geo
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/calgary/life+club+tests+resolve+with+renewed+campaign/2026389/1252042.bin



Here's her facebook profile, in case you know... you want to congratulate her... or add her and then post her personal photos online for photoshopping:
http://www.facebook.com/leahhallman?ref=search&sid=81008359.1078612764..1
My message:

Have fun alienating your potential support base. Apparently you've never taken any kind of marketing class.

PS - have fun with the lawsuit.

[toastgremlin]

I thought the lawsuit was still in the works - I guess the university didn't want to do anything this week with the media around, or maybe they're just distracted with Dr. Harv's big cashout.


Originally posted by D'z Nutz
wait a minute! That wasn't the poster sale? What the hell did I just buy? :rofl:

[Hamann]

Anyone ever notice how all the girls that are Anti-abortion are girls that no-one would want to sleep with...

:barf:

[BrknFngrs]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin


So you are going to harass her for holding a view that is offensive/opposite to your own? :facepalm: It's nice to see how free speech is celebrated in this country...

If you honestly believe people hate these retards for their "pro-life" position then you're clearly missing the point.

No one cares about there position, people hate them beacuse they are obnoxious and their posters are unnecessarily graphic.

[tha_bandit]

Originally posted by 590221010

I was them too wtf :dunno:

dude how could u spell 'saw' backwards....:nut:, those pics messed u up!

[Thomas Gabriel]

I think the posters are informative. A lot of people don't know what an abortion procedure actually entails. I'm not entirely anti-abortion, but I think a large amount of women who get it done are similar to the dead fetuses ripped out of them - wastes of skin.

Also, I'm surprised that with the amount of extreme gore movies and internet videos around that people are so offended by some posters. I would think we're pretty desensitized to that kind of thing by now.

[Tomaz]

Originally posted by BrknFngrs


If you honestly believe people hate these retards for their "pro-life" position then you're clearly missing the point.

No one cares about there position, people hate them beacuse they are obnoxious and their posters are unnecessarily graphic.

Which in turn makes idiots like me make pro-choice t-shits and protest with them for publicity. Maybe wear a glove that says "Plan 'B'", and a shoe that says "Plan 'C'".

Personally, I don't mind the message mostly because everyone is entitled to their point of view. However, the signs, posters and the truck that is driving around is visually disturbing. There is no need to put that into the public view.

[Tomaz]

Originally posted by Thomas Gabriel
I think the posters are informative. A lot of people don't know what an abortion procedure actually entails. I'm not entirely anti-abortion, but I think a large amount of women who get it done are similar to the dead fetuses ripped out of them - wastes of skin.

Also, I'm surprised that with the amount of extreme gore movies and internet videos around that people are so offended by some posters. I would think we're pretty desensitized to that kind of thing by now.

That is by choice. A person can pay to watch a movie with gore (and be over the age of 18). Gory internet videos and pornography are also intended for people over 18. All these describe the CHOICE to see things of a graphic nature. This is right into the public view. This is different. It's like putting a PG rating on the movie "Hostel".

[Thomas Gabriel]

That's true. If you look at it logically, it shouldn't be allowed. I'm still surprised people care though.

[Tomaz]

Originally posted by Thomas Gabriel
That's true. If you look at it logically, it shouldn't be allowed. I'm still surprised people care though.

I only care because my Bacon 'n Egg McMuffin meal didn't taste so good after being parked beside this large fetus pasted on the side of a truck on Anderson. lol

Plus having kids see things like that isn't really proper. They might not understand, but still.

"Mommy, what's that?"

"That could have been you son, if daddy wasn't so rich"

[msommers]

Love em or hate em, I actually have to commend them. Why? Well their #1 goal is to get people to talk about abortion, or the posters, or anything else related this gongshow. Bad press is still press and that is what they wanted.

I'm with Thomas on this one too actually. What percentage of people at the UofC are under 18? Gonna shoot the shit here and say <5%. And I'll add to that by saying, how many of those ~95% of people haven't played gory video games, or watched a gory movie, probably while being under 18?!

If I had the choice to have them there or not, I'd prefer not. But personally, it's just an inconvenience them being there than it is something I'm appauled by.

[Melinda]

Originally posted by Thomas Gabriel
I think the posters are informative. A lot of people don't know what an abortion procedure actually entails. I'm not entirely anti-abortion, but I think a large amount of women who get it done are similar to the dead fetuses ripped out of them - wastes of skin.
Groups like this are like PETA, they over sensationalize the issue. They use the most extreme examples and try to play it off as the norm. A lot of the crap they try to claim as fact is actually worst case scenario or some of the worst over exagertating I've ever seen. I've seen that truck driving around town and the 'catch phrase' they're using doesn't correlate with the photo whatsoever. But most people don't know that because most people dont (and dont usually need to) learn a lot about pregnancy/embryo development, etc, so they just pass it off as "wow, I didn't know that..."

I also hate that they're called 'pro-life' vs 'pro-choice'. It's not like people who are pro-choice are anti-life. :rolleyes: Just more dramatics on the part of the 'pro-lifers'...

[sputnik]

Originally posted by Melinda
I also hate that they're called 'pro-life' vs 'pro-choice'. It's not like people who are pro-choice are anti-life.

Makes sense to me.

When it comes to priorities, pro-choice people feel that preserving "choice" is the primary reason for their stance compared to pro-life people who feel that retaining "life" is the most important part of their stance.

No one ever said that pro-choice = anti-life. The pro-choice crowd just feels that "choice" is more important than "life".

[toastgremlin]

They seem to be gone now - the Student Union tent city has returned for another year of not really doing anything about affordable student housing.

[borN]

They're in one of the better campus sit-down-chill-out-sun-shining areas. Waste of space.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by toastgremlin
They seem to be gone now - the Student Union tent city has returned for another year of not really doing anything about affordable student housing.

I think they're still there, the Pro-Choice people got to the space first today so the Anti-Abortionists are down the path in front of MacKimme tower. I'm fairly certain the tents are the Pro-Choice group's way of ousting the Anti-Abortionists from their usual spot.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Do people ever do anything to the annoying "pro life" activists on campus? Like throw water balloons at them or something? Just curious as everyone I've talked to seem to find them extremely annoying.

[flipstah]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Do people ever do anything to the annoying &quot;pro life&quot; activists on campus? Like throw water balloons at them or something? Just curious as everyone I've talked to seem to find them extremely annoying.

And get non-academic misconduct? Pfft. If you're gonna go down, make it count!

Anything involves fire rules. :thumbsup:

FYI, I'm not implying ANYTHING. Nor condone vandalism. It's kinda cool to see though.

[Nusc]

I like how the pro-choice set up tents and have pro-choice soccer. That's cute.

[lexw]

Always love to look at that shit after a nice lunch.

[590221010]

Originally posted by tha_bandit


dude how could u spell 'saw' backwards....:nut:, those pics messed u up!
Haha, fixed ;)

[austic]

Someone should have a pro condom demonstration.. i can see it now 10's of people dressed up like trojan man...

[Eleanor]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Do people ever do anything to the annoying &quot;pro life&quot; activists on campus? Like throw water balloons at them or something? Just curious as everyone I've talked to seem to find them extremely annoying. Nope, that would be giving them exactly what they want, ignore them and keep walking.

[Gibson]

Haha, I walked by them today and all the people there were so shady and...well, odd.

The pro-choicers were playing soccer and giving out ice cream haha.

[KRyn]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Do people ever do anything to the annoying &quot;pro life&quot; activists on campus? Like throw water balloons at them or something? Just curious as everyone I've talked to seem to find them extremely annoying.

My friend was telling me about how one year, a group of people brought numerous bags of cow shit to school. They then cut open these bags and dumped it all over/near the displays.

[rockwolf2001]

someone please go take one for the team and knock em all up
:nut:

[Nusc]

Originally posted by Eleanor
Nope, that would be giving them exactly what they want, ignore them and keep walking.

Yes. I did that and I pissed the guy off. Then he started criticizing the way I dress.

[Tomaz]

Originally posted by rockwolf2001
someone please go take one for the team and knock em all up
:nut:

The most they can do is SHARE 50% of my wages, right?










IM IN!:thumbsup:

[Disoblige]

Originally posted by Nusc


Yes. I did that and I pissed the guy off. Then he started criticizing the way I dress.

Say whaaa? lol

[XylathaneGTR]

Ahhhhh...You can always feel when it's the beginning of fall.
The assignments start to pile on heavy, the leaves are just starting to turn, the morning air has a slight chill to it, and pro-life morons are spreading dead babies across campus. Ah...such a magical time.

Someone mentioned in this thread that their point is to get people talking about abortion and what not and yes, it's true, their presentations every semester DO get people talking.
However...i'd say a majority of the discussions i've overheard or been involved in haven't been about the actual issue of abortion, but have centred around the choice of tactics utilized by CPL.

It seems that the issue is now about whether or not people believe that CPL even has a right to be on campus any more, whether their comparisons are valid or not and if people are tired or annoyed at seeing dead babies and lynched up slaves on the way to class every morning. As far as the actual issue of abortion goes, it's been completely surpassed by the over-the-top antics of the CPL team.

I know a few regular, normal, rational people who are actually for pro-life in regards to the issue of abortion, but have avidly avoided mentioning that fact during discussions on the current campus issue. Why? They didn't want to get painted with the same brush that the CPL morons are painted with.

So to CPL I say...Great job on alienating your base of support and actually detracting from the issue you're trying to support. Now fuck off already.

I remember last year I gave one of the pro-choicer's a high five and chatted with her for a bit. Not because I necessarily support pro-choice viewpoints on the issue of abortion, but because I have much disdain for CPL.

[XylathaneGTR]

Oh...and if someone decided to errect a 2 storey tall GOATSE or something of the like to face CPL's next demonstration...they'd have my support! hahah

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by Hamann
Anyone ever notice how all the girls that are Anti-abortion are girls that no-one would want to sleep with...

:barf:
Easy to be true to their cause in that regard:rofl: :rofl:

I feel like coming to campus to rip down their ads.

Fucking incredible:nut:

We should create ads demonstrating the pain and suffering caused to other individuals stemming from an un-wanted children that later turned to a life of crime.

Id much rather not have a kid knowing my family & Financial life wasn't suitable for *Properly* raising a child, then to have it anyway and see the kid grow up with a very sick perception of reality or be denied proper schooling if he or she has a learning disability like I do.

[dirtsniffer]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M

.... if he or she has a learning disability like I do.

now it all makes sense! jokes, jokes :poosie:

[Nusc]

Originally posted by Disoblige


Say whaaa? lol

Yeah the middle aged guy with black hair with glasses. I don't recall exactly what he said. But the girls on the hill chuckled.

[sh0ko]

Originally posted by Hamann
Anyone ever notice how all the girls that are Anti-abortion are girls that no-one would want to sleep with...

:barf:

hahahahaha this needs to be sent to that leah chick asap

[IllusionV]

They don't realize no one is going to make their decision off a couple grotesque images.

I walked by one with my friend (who's a girl) last semester and the one girl there was talking to her in a manner that reminded me of my Religion teacher in high school ><

[Nusc]

Next time I see these guys and they talk to me I'm going to give them the finger. I should have done it the first time when that guy start talking shit to me.

[msommers]

What?! I want to hear more of this story.

[Nusc]

I walked past him and didn't look at him as he was talking to me. There was this middle aged guy - black hair with glasses. He started criticizing the way I dressed - I suppose he thought I was a snob. But the girls on the hill chuckled.

There was campus security looking at me and I just continued to walk.

Nothing special. I can't stand conservatives.

[dandia89]

I wouldn't stress too much about it man, these people are so bored of their lives they dedicate themselves in stirring shit up. It pisses me off because even if they truly believe in this cause it's just a difference of values a person has. It's like trying to convince a muslim extremist that christianity is the way of life. The only people who don't really have an opinon on the matter are people who don't really care, and they still won't care even if you try to convince them

[Nusc]

Precisely, or trying to explain evolution to a creationist. These people are so blindly committed to their beliefs that they go to great depths to justify their means.

Not only have we seen the consequences of religion throughout history but when conservatives enforce their values on others, it offensive.

[mazdavirgin]

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/trial+students+life+display+dispute/2174547/story.html

Turns out the crown agrees with my point of view that the University is not private property due to them receiving funding from the province. Nice to see freedom of speech not being quashed in our province.

[Super_Geo]

^ The University never said that they couldn't be there, just that their graphic posters be turned inwards. Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom to be a douchebag.

[nonlinear]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin
http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/trial+students+life+display+dispute/2174547/story.html

Turns out the crown agrees with my point of view that the University is not private property due to them receiving funding from the province. Nice to see freedom of speech not being quashed in our province.

once again you are absolutely incorrect. look up the definition of &quot;stayed,&quot; you moron :facepalm:

the proceedings were stayed due to &quot;lack of evidence,&quot; which probably has more to do with compassion from the U and absolutely NOTHING to do with whether or not the U is private property (which it is, believe me - i've worked here for 9 years).

the students' statement that &quot;[this] confirms our position that we do have the right to be on our own campus&quot; is blatantly incorrect, which simply further confirms that these idiots are trying to use propaganda to trick people into believing something that isn't true :rolleyes:

[nonlinear]

oops

[mazdavirgin]

Originally posted by nonlinear
once again you are absolutely incorrect. look up the definition of &amp;quot;stayed,&amp;quot; you moron :facepalm:

Reading comprehension > You :facepalm:

How exactly is a "lack of evidence" tied to any way shape or form to compassion on the part of the UofC.

PS: I am sure you know the legal issues surrounding the case better than the lawyer quoted in the paper :rolleyes:



"I think free speech is like a seamless garment, that if you can suppress the peaceful expression on a university campus, in fact it does have implications on every street corner in Canada," said John Carpay, of the Canadian Constitution Foundation.

[nonlinear]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin


Reading comprehension &gt; You :facepalm:

How exactly is a &quot;lack of evidence&quot; tied to any way shape or form to compassion on the part of the UofC.

PS: I am sure you know the legal issues surrounding the case better than the lawyer quoted in the paper :rolleyes:



the lawyer quoted in the paper is essentially saying that the PR issues generated by the 'freedom of speech' issue is enough to make the prosecution back off - whether there is a legal basis for this or not (which there isn't). Note that there is no legal grounds to dismiss the case on the basis of free speech. as well, tresspassing laws are simple and this woudl end is a certain conviction.

as for the 'lack of evidence' - give me a break. they've been trespassing for years. they were just doing it 3 weeks ago. there is ample evidence. note that a stay does not mean dismissed, or not guilty. it meas that there was a decision by the prosecution not to persue charges at this time (although the proceedings could resume at any point in the future). I would bet this stay was issued because the University and prosecution decided a trespassing conviction (which would be guaranteed, as they were trespassing) would only become more of a PR issue for the university - because this group and idiots like you are trying to paint this as a freedom of speech issue - which is incorrect and missing the point entirely. The point is that this group is demonstrating on private property and unwilling to follow security policies requested by the property owner.

what makes this whole thing even sillier is that the anti-abortion message is being entirely lost here, and this is turning into a debate about freedom of speech. way to go, asshats. :rolleyes:

[nonlinear]

^^anyhow, i really don't want to argue about such a stupid thing.


when they were here a few weeks ago, though, I had an idea for how to contain the images: we need another group to buy some bigger erectable signs that can be placed in a larger circle around the outside of the anti-abortion display. there could be a little door allowing people to enter so they could go see the pictures and exercise their freedom of speech. i think it would be quite effective.

here is a top view:

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8829/26106725.jpg

[Dycker]

The UofC is cracking down. Possible explusion for the Pro-Lifers.

[spikerS]

Originally posted by Dycker
The UofC is cracking down. Possible explusion for the Pro-Lifers.

and pray tell, what reputable source did you get this from?

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by Dycker
The UofC is cracking down. Possible explusion for the Pro-Lifers.

Source? :D

[GREENBOY]

It was on CBC yesterday.

[nonlinear]

Originally posted by spikers


and pray tell, what reputable source did you get this from?

just about any media outlet in canada.

I say expel those fucktwats. either that, or next time i'm going to print out a bunch of large posters featuring bestiality, gay BDSM, asshole insertions of large gourds, necrophilia pictures, etc. and have my own freedom of speech demonstration right next to these prudes.

[Dycker]

^ Right with you on that one, but as I'm no longer at the UofC, I only have to hear about it in the papers.

[D'z Nutz]

Originally posted by Dycker
The UofC is cracking down. Possible explusion for the Pro-Lifers.

Bwahaha, aborted from the U of C like an unwanted fetus

[Dycker]

Givin' them the hook.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz


Bwahaha, aborted from the U of C like an unwanted fetus

THAT needs to be made into some kind of headline.

"Anti-Abortion Students Aborted from UofC over Aborted Attempt to Abort Abortions"

[flipstah]

More like:

"UofC Pro-Life members terminated from campus"


Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat


THAT needs to be made into some kind of headline.

&quot;Anti-Abortion Students Aborted from UofC over Aborted Attempt to Abort Abortions&quot;

[2Valve0]

They should GTFO I don't need to see that nasty shit while walking around, sure have your views dont force them on me. I feel like egging them next time they are there

[mazdavirgin]

:rofl: I find it hilarious how many people are ok with them being limited in their freedom of speech but were supportive of Ann Coulter speaking in Calgary. I guess it just goes to show people only like free speech if it agrees with their views.

They can attempt to expel the students just like they can technically expel any student from the UofC if the administration decides it wants to be a tyrant. Luckily this just means the UofC will have another court case on it's hands.

I wonder how much student tuition money is going into persecuting these students? Frankly this is just asinine. Why does the UofC allow the Tibetan protesters to exhibit graphic images of torture in China or PETA to show gory images from slaughter houses? Double standards?

[nonlinear]

i don't have any problem with them showing the pictures or having an opinion, but i DO have a problem with their attitude that they can just do whatever the fuck they want in public. i do NOT think they have the right to just display such graphic pictures without implementing some sort of discretionary measures. I mean, there are little kids walking by, and this could be really, really disturbing and traumatic for them. there are also jewish peopel, and women who have for whatever reason had abortions in the past. these images could be very hurtful to some of these people.

this is also why TV stations air the "viewer discretion advised" screens before certain shows and movies.

so, go ahead and display your pictures, but at least allow people to exercise THEIR right to NOT view the photos if they choose not to.

fucking prude idiots :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns: :guns:

[nonlinear]

mazdavirgin = member of anti-abortion group.

you're one of those prudes waiting for marriage, aren't ya?

:poosie: :poosie: :poosie: :poosie:

[mazdavirgin]

Originally posted by nonlinear
i don't have any problem with them showing the pictures or having an opinion, but i DO have a problem with their attitude that they can just do whatever the fuck they want in public. i do NOT think they have the right to just display such graphic pictures without implementing some sort of discretionary measures.

I recall seeing plenty of disturbing images while attending the UofC and never seeing any warnings. It only seems to be a problem though when it involves abortion? I specifically recall images of Tibetans post torture, the congo genocide, PETA and their slaughter house jazz, and images of dead Palestinians during Palestinian awareness week.

So why is it that they are effectively bullying just this group? Really though the whole think of the children argument? There are not that many kids on campus...

[mazdavirgin]

Originally posted by nonlinear
mazdavirgin = member of anti-abortion group.

you're one of those prudes waiting for marriage, aren't ya?

:poosie: :poosie: :poosie: :poosie:

No I support the right of women to chose abortion. The thing that upsets me is that we are censoring certain images because they offend some vocal minority. It's a little silly especially when frankly none of the images are any worse than anyone here has seen during any horror flick. Either you censor everyone or you let people have their free speech.

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Originally posted by mazdavirgin
:rofl: I find it hilarious how many people are ok with them being limited in their freedom of speech but were supportive of Ann Coulter speaking in Calgary. I guess it just goes to show people only like free speech if it agrees with their views.

They can attempt to expel the students just like they can technically expel any student from the UofC if the administration decides it wants to be a tyrant. Luckily this just means the UofC will have another court case on it's hands.

I wonder how much student tuition money is going into persecuting these students? Frankly this is just asinine. Why does the UofC allow the Tibetan protesters to exhibit graphic images of torture in China or PETA to show gory images from slaughter houses? Double standards?


It has nothing to do with their free speech if you had any sense at all. The fact is they are forcing the graphic images on people who do not want to see them. Their attitudes are also a big part of the issue. Someone set up a "prochoice" stand next to theirs saying that people should have the choice in life to do what they want. The abortion idiots harrassed the hell out of them. If they want free speech give others free speech. The university asked them many times to face their pictures inward and then allow people to view them if they so chose, which they refused to do. It all has to do with how the images were faced. These people are complete fkin idiots and need to be expelled

[nonlinear]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin


I recall seeing plenty of disturbing images while attending the UofC and never seeing any warnings. It only seems to be a problem though when it involves abortion? I specifically recall images of Tibetans post torture, the congo genocide, PETA and their slaughter house jazz, and images of dead Palestinians during Palestinian awareness week.

So why is it that they are effectively bullying just this group? Really though the whole think of the children argument? There are not that many kids on campus...

Really,

i've been on campus an average of 6 days per week for the last 9 years, and have never seen anything that compares to the anti-abortion demonstration. Actually, i've never seen ANY of the images you mention above. the worst i can remember is when someone ran naked through mac hall some years ago.

but i suppose your group has compiled a list of other instances (no matter how petty they were relative to your demonstration) to use as "evidence."

point is that you're on private property. pal, and you DON'T have the right to just do whatever the fuck you want.

[mazdavirgin]

Originally posted by nonlinear


Really,

i've been on campus an average of 6 days per week for the last 9 years, and have never seen anything that compares to the anti-abortion demonstration. Actually, i've never seen ANY of the images you mention above. the worst i can remember is when someone ran naked through mac hall some years ago.

but i suppose your group has compiled a list of other instances (no matter how petty they were relative to your demonstration) to use as &quot;evidence.&quot;

point is that you're on private property. pal, and you DON'T have the right to just do whatever the fuck you want.

It stops being private when it is funded by tax payer dollars.

:dunno: The displays were usually in MacHall at the bottom of the stairs. You can choose not to believe me that is your prerogative but I know what I have seen.

[nonlinear]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin


No I support the right of women to chose abortion. The thing that upsets me is that we are censoring certain images because they offend some vocal minority. It's a little silly especially when frankly none of the images are any worse than anyone here has seen during any horror flick. Either you censor everyone or you let people have their free speech.

OK, so if this is REALLY about freedom of speech for you, then do you want to help me organize the Gay Fisting/BDSM/Bestiality/Incest/Anal Insertions/Toilet Sex Free Speech Demonstration with me? I mean, you are devoted enough to the cause that you advocate breaking the law, so you must certainly want to get onboard with this.

(i'm serious.)

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Originally posted by mazdavirgin


It stops being private when it is funded by tax payer dollars.

:dunno: The displays were usually in MacHall at the bottom of the stairs. You can choose not to believe me that is your prerogative but I know what I have seen.

I've seen the tibetan ones and shit so they have been there, nonlinear must not be seeing things. But the difference is they are all facing inwards, you have the choice to go look, or you can simply walk past. They also don't force their views on you. This is the exact opposite for the abortion idiots.

[mazdavirgin]

Originally posted by nonlinear


OK, so if this is REALLY about freedom of speech for you, then do you want to help me organize the Gay Fisting/BDSM/Bestiality/Incest/Anal Insertions/Toilet Sex Free Speech Demonstration with me? I mean, you are devoted enough to the cause that you advocate breaking the law, so you must certainly want to get onboard with this.

(i'm serious.)

So if I gather this correctly you want to display images of the above in public? Pornography displayed in public is unlawful so clearly you can't make that leap. Arguably I wouldn't really have an issue with any of that content being displayed in public. Freedom of speech is more important to me than any temporary discomfort I may experience over some image. Why should I have the right to chose what you or anyone else can see? As long as no one is advocating violence against anyone else I don't really see the harm.

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Someone set up a "prochoice" stand next to theirs saying that people should have the choice in life to do what they want. The abortion idiots harrassed the hell out of them. If they want free speech give others free speech. The university asked them many times to face their pictures inward and then allow people to view them if they so chose, which they refused to do. It all has to do with how the images were faced. These people are complete fkin idiots and need to be expelled

I think this is the key right here. Pro-Life or Pro-Choice, it doesn't matter as long as you give people a choice whether or not to view your material. :closed:

[nonlinear]

Originally posted by mazdavirgin


It stops being private when it is funded by tax payer dollars.



it most certainly does not - ask any lawyer. there are legal precedents in canada AND the rest of the world. (this argument has even been tried at Berkeley - yes, Berkeley - and didn't fly in court.)

remember that this group tried to take it to court, and the only reason they weren't convicted of trespassing was because the UofC and prosecution stayed the charges in order to avoid a media circus. (note that these charges were only stayed, and can still be pursued at any time).