Racing Violation

[Memshey]

Ok so i need some help and some advice, September 25th 2009 i was pulled over by a police officer for racing, code 115(2)(c), the officer clocked me at 162km in a 100km zone on deerfoot trial in calgary alberta, the officer did not catch the other driver, I have no past demerits at all this would be my first time, the cop told me that i will have to appear in court and explian my actions to the judge on October 30th 2009, i am 20 years old i work in calgary but live in aridire so i do quite the commute so im praying that they do not take my licence but i do fully expect a fine and some demerits, im wondering if anyone could give me some information on what they think my punishment is going to be and maybe some advice on what to do?

Thank you

[battleaxe1]

No worries. Been there as well. Dress well, bring a notebook with your ticket in your hand and and be remorseful. Tell them your story genuinely. If you are genuine, they will cut you slack. They will knock down the $/demerits.

Oh ya. IN B4 the tards who say dumbasss.

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by battleaxe1
dumbasss.

What he said.

[TorqueDog]

POINTTS.

Racing is very difficult to substantiate because there needs to be a set start and finish point, IIRC. You'll likely be able to get this reduced.

You need to be more aware of your surroundings if you're going to be traveling those kinds of speeds. You should have seen that cop well before he saw you.

Also probably shouldn't do 160 KM/H on Deerfoot, that's pushing it - even by my standards.

[Disoblige]

Do exactly as the cop told you, which is to show up at court and explain your actions.

Here are some guidelines I would recommend to you when in court:

1) Dress nice, shirt and tie. Have the appearance that you are respectful because impressions matter.

2) Be remorseful of your actions. Tell them you know you shouldn't have sped that quickly on Deerfoot and you know that you have endangered the lives of people by doing so. Acknowledge that it was very stupid of you and you won't do anything like that ever again.

3) This is important: Also mention that you have no prior loss in demerits as well (first offense), which will help. Again, emphasize that this was a one time thing and you feel lucky you didn't cause an accident from your stupid stunt.

In combination of being respectful, remorseful and having no prior convictions, the judge may reduce your ticket to something much better.

Personally, if I was in your situation and it was a first offense, I think I would be able to represent myself as described above and wouldn't need POINTTS (very pricey)

[battleaxe1]

You also appear before a gentleman in a small office. It is not a big scene as you may think. Learn from this error :)

[96GrandAMGT]

i agree with useing pointts! iv used em twice but for speeding tickets when i was younger

[signature7]

Instead of points, how about use that guy, Brad Lawson who was mentioned in another thread? (403)467-7228, couldn't hurt to talk to him about it, could be a cheaper alternative to points.

[Memshey]

Awesome great adivce guys thanks alot :)

[FullMetal]

:banghead: damn man, this story makes me not wanting to speed any more lol, i was stoped once by a cop going like 140 in a 60 zone on the back roads in the foothills industeral area... but the thing is the cop didnt stop me or saw me speeding his reson was... i heard your car going really fast and your engine roaring :rofl: so my reson for speeding was i told him i just got my engine fixed and changed my muffler and i have the car for sale so i was just testing it for that guy that was beside me.. as in he wanted to buy it lol. He took my license and went back to his SUV and like 20 secs later he came back and told me i shouldnt have been speeding on public roads like that and if i did want to speed that i should take it to the track :clap: :clap: :rofl: but since then i have slowed down and sold my car and have never been stoped by a cop :devil:

[battleaxe1]

Originally posted by FullMetal
:banghead: damn man, this story makes me not wanting to speed any more lol, i was stoped once by a cop going like 140 in a 60 zone on the back roads in the foothills industeral area... but the thing is the cop didnt stop me or saw me speeding his reson was... i heard your car going really fast and your engine roaring :rofl: so my reson for speeding was i told him i just got my engine fixed and changed my muffler and i have the car for sale so i was just testing it for that guy that was beside me.. as in he wanted to buy it lol. He took my license and went back to his SUV and like 20 secs later he came back and told me i shouldnt have been speeding on public roads like that and if i did want to speed that i should take it to the track :clap: :clap: :rofl: but since then i have slowed down and sold my car and have never been stoped by a cop :devil:

<typical holier than thou beyond member> waaaaa waaaaaa don't speed, don't rev. waaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaa. you should be in jail. waaaaaaa

[FullMetal]

Originally posted by battleaxe1


&lt;typical holier than thou beyond member&gt; waaaaa waaaaaa don't speed, don't rev. waaaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaaaa. you should be in jail. waaaaaaa

suck it baby boy :guns: come put me in jail:barf: and another thing i dont want to be a thou beyond member cuz most of you guys do is bitch and make fun of people like ur ugly ass is:rofl: :devil:

[battleaxe1]

Originally posted by FullMetal


suck it baby boy :guns: come put me in jail:barf: and another thing i dont want to be a thou beyond member cuz most of you guys do is bitch and make fun of people like ur ugly ass is:rofl: :devil:

sarcasm

[FullMetal]

Originally posted by battleaxe1


sarcasm
we shouldnt spam on this post XD but ur sarcasm sucks any ways ima stop now... to the OP good luck with ur fight with the tickit...

[TurboD]

did you honk out the race?
did you win?
what kinda car was the other car?

[Eleanor]

Anyone else surprised that a GTS-T could even do 162km/h? :dunno:

[Memshey]

I'n guessing you dont know much about your skylines mr mazda protege

[GQNammer]

Originally posted by Eleanor
Anyone else surprised that a GTS-T could even do 162km/h? :dunno:

The only way this is possible is if he's in mid drift with initial D music blaring in his ride

[signature7]

Originally posted by TurboD
did you honk out the race?
did you win?
what kinda car was the other car?

I prefer the flashing of the headlights on the roads of Tokyo LOL.

[SJW]

I hope you lose your licence you dumbass.

[dexlargo]

If convicted of racing, especially at those speeds, imo you are likely to receive a suspension.

If you actually were racing, then I think you need a suspension to smarten you up.
originally posted by battleaxe1
You also appear before a gentleman in a small office. It is not a big scene as you may think. Learn from this error.I think this is a Part 2 offence and requires a court appearance. That means no visiting the First Appearance Crowns. You can talk to the prosecutor in court though.

One thing that you could try is asking if they'll let you plead to speeding instead, hopefully at 50 kph and not more - that way you'll only get a 4 demerit ticket and just pay it without having to explain why you shouldn't be suspended to a judge. Speeding at 51 and over is 6 demerits and the judges often give out suspensions for those excessive speeds.

[TheCheff]

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[TheCheff]

Originally posted by Eleanor
Anyone else surprised that a GTS-T could even do 162km/h? :dunno:

you must have the gts-t confused with your mazda. A gts-t can go well over 200km/h let alone 160...

Don't go in by yourself, hire points and let them take care of this for you. This is probably not something you should handle yourself.

[Mr_ET]

why are you guys helping this street racer? The only proper way to learn is to lose your licence for 3 months or so and have you take the bus.

I hope you have demerits, a fine to pay AND you lose your licence. If your permit was that important you shouldn't have gone those speeds on Deerfoot.

[narou]

Can you read? I believe it is not a possible option to take the bus! But learn to slow the fuck down dude.

BTW it is actually kinda hard to resist pushing to those speeds in a GTS-T.

[J NRG]

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[Zhariak]

Originally posted by Mr_ET
why are you guys helping this street racer? The only proper way to learn is to lose your licence for 3 months or so and have you take the bus.

I hope you have demerits, a fine to pay AND you lose your licence. If your permit was that important you shouldn't have gone those speeds on Deerfoot.

Normally I'd agree...

But the OP didn't show any attitude. And obviously he is worried about what's going to happen.

His job depends on his commute.

And as I said he doesn't show any attitude, didn't ask how to get out of it, just asked for advice on how to handle it, and was curious about what the possible punishments may be.

He is obviously worried, and since this is a first offense of any kind for him, and thankfully since nothing happened I think he probably learned his lesson.

Normally I'd be dishin insults, but in this case I think he may have learned his lesson.

[revelations]

Just be glad this isnt Ontario.

Your car wouldve been crushed.

+1 for you admitting being young and stupid (weve all been there) and now being a man and facing the music.

[TorqueDog]

Originally posted by Mr_ET
why are you guys helping this street racer? The only proper way to learn is to lose your licence for 3 months or so and have you take the bus.

I hope you have demerits, a fine to pay AND you lose your licence. If your permit was that important you shouldn't have gone those speeds on Deerfoot. Prove he was racing. I doubt you can, and I doubt the Crown will be able to as well, if he has good representation.

[JimmyJones]

Originally posted by Mr_ET
why are you guys helping this street racer? The only proper way to learn is to lose your licence for 3 months or so and have you take the bus.

I hope you have demerits, a fine to pay AND you lose your licence. If your permit was that important you shouldn't have gone those speeds on Deerfoot.


do you have the school girl out fit to go along with the attitude ?

[TorqueDog]

Originally posted by JimmyJones
do you have the school girl out fit to go along with the attitude ? No, just the car.

[scat19]

Originally posted by JimmyJones



do you have the school girl out fit to go along with the attitude ?

I know you do, to go along with your fake designer things

[TurboD]

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[CUG]

Originally posted by Mr_ET
why are you guys helping this street racer? The only proper way to learn is to lose your licence for 3 months or so and have you take the bus.

I hope you have demerits, a fine to pay AND you lose your licence. If your permit was that important you shouldn't have gone those speeds on Deerfoot. Dear Guy Who Owns the Scooter Version of a Car, no one here is condoning what he did, we are suggesting he enact the resources around him to lighten the blow.

[Memshey]

I have contacted a traffic ticket specialist for my defense in court, i have read that some of you think i should lose my licence, well your right i do deserve to have it taken away, i have defensive driving scheduled next week, along with a letter i will be writing to the judge and anyone else it concerns explaining my actions and how they would effect everyone if something did happen, so i'm not making any excuses for what i did i'm just hoping i can proove to them that im not some punk kid who deosnt care if he looses his licence i would be pretty screwed out of a good job, i normally do not commit this sort of action it was just one of those times where your not using your head, So long story, yes fine, yes give me demerits, but im asking to spare my licence to better myself.

[Memshey]

So ill have have to wait and see what happens

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by narou
Can you read? I believe it is not a possible option to take the bus!

There's a bus that goes from Airdrie to Calgary in the morning and back again in the evening.

[dexlargo]

Originally posted by Memshey
I have contacted a traffic ticket specialist for my defense in court, i have read that some of you think i should lose my licence, well your right i do deserve to have it taken away, i have defensive driving scheduled next week, along with a letter i will be writing to the judge and anyone else it concerns explaining my actions and how they would effect everyone if something did happen, so i'm not making any excuses for what i did i'm just hoping i can proove to them that im not some punk kid who deosnt care if he looses his licence i would be pretty screwed out of a good job, i normally do not commit this sort of action it was just one of those times where your not using your head, So long story, yes fine, yes give me demerits, but im asking to spare my licence to better myself. Those are all good things. I'm glad you admit that what you did wasn't smart. Hopefully, you also realize that it was dangerous.
You could probably negotiate on your own with the prosecutor, but if you want to use a ticket agent, that's fine too.
If you choose to do it on your own, you can call the crown's office before your court date - 2 weeks before or less - and ask to set up a time to speak to the duty crown about your ticket (*Note: this is not the normal procedure - you can only do this if you are actually scheduled into a court room, not scheduled for the JP counter). You could then come in and show him proof of completing defensive driving, also bring a letter from your employer about losing your job. I'm not saying for sure that he'll reduce your ticket at that meeting, but you will at least have everything you need to show him to let him make that decision.
Let us know how things turn out.

[Eleanor]

Originally posted by Memshey
I'n guessing you dont know much about your skylines mr mazda protege It was a joke :rolleyes: Your skyline going to look awesome sitting in police impound or wrapped around a telephone pole though :thumbsup:

Originally posted by TheCheff
you must have the gts-t confused with your mazda. A gts-t can go well over 200km/h let alone 160... Wow, 200km/h? I need to shift into fourth to hit that :rofl:

[codetrap]

Originally posted by Memshey
I have contacted a traffic ticket specialist for my defense in court, i have read that some of you think i should lose my licence, well your right i do deserve to have it taken away, i have defensive driving scheduled next week, along with a letter i will be writing to the judge and anyone else it concerns explaining my actions and how they would effect everyone if something did happen, so i'm not making any excuses for what i did i'm just hoping i can proove to them that im not some punk kid who deosnt care if he looses his licence i would be pretty screwed out of a good job, i normally do not commit this sort of action it was just one of those times where your not using your head, So long story, yes fine, yes give me demerits, but im asking to spare my licence to better myself.

Dude.. you got my support now. You're actually doing stuff to mitigate your actions, and that speaks a ton louder than any words. I'm normally all for the "lose the license crush the car", but I also believe that a guy should have a shot at a second chance too. Sounds to me like you're earning your second chance. :thumbsup:

[Kennyredline]

Originally posted by Zhariak


Normally I'd agree...

But the OP didn't show any attitude. And obviously he is worried about what's going to happen.

His job depends on his commute.

And as I said he doesn't show any attitude, didn't ask how to get out of it, just asked for advice on how to handle it, and was curious about what the possible punishments may be.

He is obviously worried, and since this is a first offense of any kind for him, and thankfully since nothing happened I think he probably learned his lesson.

Normally I'd be dishin insults, but in this case I think he may have learned his lesson.
...and if this guy had wrapped himself around a light standard, killed himself, possibly someone else (which has happend before at those speeds), we'd all be calling him a douchebag. The fact that he's alive to be remorseful is nothing more than luck.

[beyond_ban]

Originally posted by Kennyredline
The fact that he's alive to be remorseful is nothing more than luck.

Quoted for humor. Your saying you have never, once in your life, reached that speed on a public road? It isn't like i try to race kids and see how fast my car is, but driving to Saskatchewan or on any other two lane road, passing can get a bit sketchy with people coming head on. Hitting 160 isn't really hard.... and its not like the moment you hit it your automatically lucky to have survived. I'm not condoning speeding, but realistically it isn't all that terrible.

[GOnSHO]

Originally posted by beyond_ban


Quoted for humor. Your saying you have never, once in your life, reached that speed on a public road? It isn't like i try to race kids and see how fast my car is, but driving to Saskatchewan or on any other two lane road, passing can get a bit sketchy with people coming head on. Hitting 160 isn't really hard.... and its not like the moment you hit it your automatically lucky to have survived. I'm not condoning speeding, but realistically it isn't all that terrible.

QFT

[LOLzilla]

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[Kennyredline]

Originally posted by beyond_ban


Quoted for humor. Your saying you have never, once in your life, reached that speed on a public road? It isn't like i try to race kids and see how fast my car is, but driving to Saskatchewan or on any other two lane road, passing can get a bit sketchy with people coming head on. Hitting 160 isn't really hard.... and its not like the moment you hit it your automatically lucky to have survived. I'm not condoning speeding, but realistically it isn't all that terrible.

If I'm on a nice stretch of road that's straight, good visibility, no traffic around, I might slowly cruise up to that speed, but I won't sustain it, because I know the road is not engineered for those speeds.
Doing that speed on an empty road that's nice and straight is not the issue here...the OP was RACING. Although I've never raced, I can imagine the adrenaline gets pumpin' and maybe it's like being intoxicated, and bad decisions get made.