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HillBilly
09-29-2009, 09:29 AM
I have a server room about 10' x 10' with the following equipment in it;

-Dell Poweredge Server - Domain Controller
-Compaq Server - Domain Controller(Spare)
-Dell Poweredge Server - Central Storage
-NEC Phone System Controller
-Gigabit 48 Port switch (2)
-Cable Modem
-Wlan controller

Anyway, the temp seems to be hovering at 24C. It has a A/C vent in there, but it isn't year round... Think she is going to overheat in the winter? I am obviously going to plug the heat vent over winter so its not blowing hot air into the room.

thoughts?

adam c
09-29-2009, 09:38 AM
should always have a constant AC source when in an enclosed space. I have a floor standing AC unit in my server room right now, it's around 10x14
Running 5 servers, 4 switches, plus other misc equipment, room temp is a constant 20C

the ac unit just vents into the ceiling

Tik-Tok
09-29-2009, 09:39 AM
Set up a checkvalve duct/fan so that the heat of the room gets blown into the ducts when the furnace isn't on, and when it is on, the checkvalve duct will prevent hot air from entering the room.

Why waste energy?

Zhariak
09-29-2009, 09:56 AM
I'd say wait until winter and check the temp.

Even if it is 30 degrees in there I would say its safe, but just monitor it on the first few days where the heating kicks in...

Or buy an HP server, load it up with VMware vSphere4 and consolidate!!!!

And buy both from me :) I'll hook u up with a good deal!

JAYMEZ
09-29-2009, 09:58 AM
We have an AC in our room , better safe than sorry.

HillBilly
09-29-2009, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by Zhariak
Or buy an HP server, load it up with VMware vSphere4 and consolidate!!!!


can't consolidate.... Some horsehit error with active directory

adam c
09-29-2009, 10:53 AM
you can't virtualize your machines because of AD? that makes no sense, what's the error?

HillBilly
09-29-2009, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by adam c
you can't virtualize your machines because of AD? that makes no sense, what's the error?

Not sure... we are upgrading all our servers soon and the issue will go away.

Mibz
09-29-2009, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by HillBilly
we are upgrading all our servers soon and the issue will go away. Famous last words?

HillBilly
09-29-2009, 11:30 AM
Originally posted by Mibz
Famous last words?

hope not.

TorqueDog
09-29-2009, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Zhariak
I'd say wait until winter and check the temp.

Even if it is 30 degrees in there I would say its safe, but just monitor it on the first few days where the heating kicks in...

Or buy an HP server, load it up with VMware vSphere4 and consolidate!!!!

And buy both from me :) I'll hook u up with a good deal! Hyper-V!

adam c
09-29-2009, 11:48 AM
yea don't see how upgrading your servers will make the issue go away unless it's hardware related, even then, AD isn't dependent on the hw (to a certain extent)

anyways gl

Zhariak
09-29-2009, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by TorqueDog
Hyper-V!

Oh cmon... Why Hyper-V? Whynot VMware?

adam c
09-29-2009, 11:53 AM
cause Hyper-V is cheaper than VMware

Mibz
09-29-2009, 12:16 PM
Pretty sure VMWare has a zero-downtime P2V solution whereas Hyper-V doesn't. Not that I'm really arguing either way, just saying that factor alone is enough for some businesses to ignore Hyper-V.

adam c
09-29-2009, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Mibz
Pretty sure VMWare has a zero-downtime P2V solution whereas Hyper-V doesn't. Not that I'm really arguing either way, just saying that factor alone is enough for some businesses to ignore Hyper-V.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverhyperv/thread/56657794-59bb-47d1-9b6d-daec65cf7013

Zhariak
09-29-2009, 12:31 PM
Originally posted by adam c
cause Hyper-V is cheaper than VMware

It's cheaper for small time deployments.

On more demanding infrastructures VMware is the way to go :)

Mibz
09-29-2009, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by adam c


http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverhyperv/thread/56657794-59bb-47d1-9b6d-daec65cf7013 Right, I know VMM 2k8 does P2V, but does it do it without any downtime? I was under the impression that you couldn't run that on a live server. That thread doesn't say so and, unfortunately, I don't have time to dig at the moment.

GQBalla
09-29-2009, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by Zhariak


It's cheaper for small time deployments.

On more demanding infrastructures VMware is the way to go :)


werd

Zhariak
09-29-2009, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by GQBalla



werd

double werd!

eblend
09-29-2009, 07:46 PM
Haha, hyper-v? haha yah for a home environment it is alright, hell I use it, but there is no comparison to vmware. Just got back from Vmworld 2009 a few weeks ago and went to a session comparing all virtualization technologies...even with R2 of server 2008....hyper-v just does NOT compare at all.

We got HP blades (and rack mounts) at work with ESX 3.5 and going to vsphere 4 soon!! exciting.

Anyone who wants to try out esx get esxi and try it out, might work on your existing hardware

adam c
09-29-2009, 07:58 PM
^not everyone works in a large office like you do though

Zhariak
09-29-2009, 08:37 PM
Ps. if anyone is looking for VMware, I'm a VMware solutions provider partner :)

lol

I just recently found out that some HUGE company by me implemented a HUGE Hyper-V implementation :facepalm:

Like the dollar value on the implementation was retarded.

Zhariak
09-29-2009, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Zhariak
Ps. if anyone is looking for VMware, I'm a VMware solutions provider partner :)

lol

I just recently found out that some HUGE company by me implemented a HUGE Hyper-V implementation :facepalm:

Like the dollar value on the implementation was retarded.

Sorry, that was a quick and pointless post