Need some advice on cars.

[curtis0432]

Hello I just got my class 5 licience today and I am very happy about it. I have been looking at cars for some while.

I would like to know your opinion on what would be the best car for me. I'm thinking i want like a Honda civic or a Chevrolet cavalier. I Know that Honda is very reliable but not to sure about the Chevy cavaliers. If you guys could give me some info about Chevy cavaliers. I am going to be wanting to install an after market stereo system on the car that i buy. any info on that would be much apreciated.

Will modded cars pass inspection or does it have to be stock?

theses are the cars that im looking at? Are the reasonably priced or would you ask for lower.


http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-Honda-95-civic-must-see-W0QQAdIdZ148947462

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1992-Honda-Civic-DX-Sedan-Reduced-from-7-000-for-QUICK-SALE-W0QQAdIdZ159233463

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-selling-4-door-cavalier-MUST-SEE-W0QQAdIdZ146499161

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-Chevrolet-Cavalier-W0QQAdIdZ153907476

thanks

[goodmusic]

I'd steer clear of civics w/ flames and cavaliers with bodykits.

Get an vdub or somethin!

[curtis0432]

any other opinions?

Does anybody know anything about chevy cavalier's? Good Bad? Reliable? fun to drive?

what do you guys think about the cars that i have posted? Do they look any good. Do some of them look like they have to many Km's on it.\

and will having a modded car pass inspection? for example a car with a body kit and aftermarket tale lights? etc.(will that beable to pass)

and last of all Are those cars decently priced. if not could you give me some direction on how much there wearth. How much i should offer?

thanks for answering my questions.

[Pahnda]

Cavaliers are shit. A Chevy Aveo I had was a blast compared to crapaliers.

[itsjustaCorolla]

:dunno:
I choose....walking over being seen in those cars :facepalm:

[tawheed]

Hey dude,

It's your first car.. Buy something you like..

That being said I've never owned a domestic vehicle.. I'd much rather a proper 92 civic than a 2006 Cavalier..

All depends what you want.. and hwo much you wanna spend

[nightfx]

Please don't get a Cavalier. :D

[curtis0432]

Sorry but please dont get a cavalier doesnt help me much? have you heard anthying good or bad about them?

and does anybody now if a modded car will pass the a inspection?(body kit, Etc.)

any advice on prices of those cars? good price? or to much?

[arian_ma]

The Cavalier makes me want to end my life when I am inside of it. I cringe at the thought of having to go out when I know that the Cavalier is the ride.

It is poorly made, it looks like ass, it drives like ass, and just to kick you in your pretty little balls when you're down, they put a fucking metal bar across the bottom quarter of the driver's seat, so that if you weren't already having a terrible enough time driving the biggest heap of shit ever made, your spine hurt for days after as well.

I think they got that innovation from their "How Nazi's tortured people," line of research.

What a horribly disgusting vehicle. I hate that thing with a passion.

[DSM4LIFE]

if you want a good car go with honda for a first car. i have a 1995 honda civic hatchback with a JDM integra GS-R motor swap for sale with some mods. which would be better than any of those.

[Shogged]

buying cars with ads like that pretty much says you're buying something that some broski has bagged the shit out of trying to look cool on macleod trail.

[curtis0432]

LOL in english?(words that i can understand LOL.)

[Joe-G]

He likes riced out cars....ahhh. But whatever, its what you prefer right?
Pick what you like, but eventually you might regret it, and grow out of the whole body kit/decals thing. That was in back in the day, but now it really isnt.

Cavaliers aren't that great and being a domestic car, they dont hold much value either. If it were me, id stick with imports or something that has more pep to it at least.

Those cars you posted are SLOWWWWWWW, and arent hot shit at all IMO. Youll get bored of a slow car really quick. Might as well join the new driver/JDM bandwagon. Instead of spending 4-5k on cars like you posted, you could pick up a clean RHD car that make more hp/$.

[curtis0432]

ok but what do you guys think about the value of those cars? are they wearth what there posted or are they way over priced?

thanks

[sr20s14zenki]

The civic will hold its value, those pieces of shit cavaliers arent worth half of what they are asking, steer clear, TRUST ME. Get an unmodded honda, toyota, or nissan, you dont want some piece of shit somebody else has had their way with.


http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1998-Honda-Civic-LE-Sedan-W0QQAdIdZ159693886

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-2003-Honda-Civic-TURBO-MUST-SELL-W0QQAdIdZ159690455

that civic is a nice deal, turbo kit already on it, looks fairly clean.

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-2000-Honda-Civic-SE-Sedan-W0QQAdIdZ157804913


just an example of good value there man

[FiveFreshFish]

Originally posted by curtis0432
Sorry but please dont get a cavalier doesnt help me much? have you heard anthying good or bad about them?

and does anybody now if a modded car will pass the a inspection?(body kit, Etc.)

any advice on prices of those cars? good price? or to much?

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&threadid=279626

[curtis0432]

so say if i wanted to buy the 1992 honda civic. how much would you offer for it.

Ya i liked that one the best( http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-2003-Honda-Civic-TURBO-MUST-SELL-W0QQAdIdZ159690455 ) but the only problem is i don't have that much money to spend? And i don't think he would accept like around 4000 dollars? should i even try.

thanks

[barmanjay]

too bad there's still so much hate-on for cavaliers on here.

anyways:

you are a first time driver, and will likely crash your first car.

a cavalier or an older honda might be perfect for you, i would NOT want to see you in a more powerful car, and damaging those cars wont be such a loss to the automotive world. parts are relatively easy to find aswell.

btw: i knew who had owned the silver 4dr in the past. nice car, peppy, but not fast. engine was hydrolocked before is was sold. and its not a v6, its a quad 4, 2.4l


i think for that amount of money, you would be better off with a grand am

[curtis0432]

ok so thanks! so how much would you offer for the blue cavalier?

thanks again guys

[arian_ma]

Originally posted by barmanjay
too bad there's still so much hate-on for cavaliers on here.

anyways:

you are a first time driver, and will likely crash your first car.

a cavalier or an older honda might be perfect for you, i would NOT want to see you in a more powerful car, and damaging those cars wont be such a loss to the automotive world. parts are relatively easy to find aswell.

btw: i knew who had owned the silver 4dr in the past. nice car, peppy, but not fast. engine was hydrolocked before is was sold. and its not a v6, its a quad 4, 2.4l


i think for that amount of money, you would be better off with a grand am
QFT, and I can honestly say that I don't hate Cavaliers...just the one that I am burdened with.

[sr20s14zenki]

Originally posted by curtis0432
so say if i wanted to buy the 1992 honda civic. how much would you offer for it.

Ya i liked that one the best( http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-2003-Honda-Civic-TURBO-MUST-SELL-W0QQAdIdZ159690455 ) but the only problem is i don't have that much money to spend? And i don't think he would accept like around 4000 dollars? should i even try.

thanks

You would be offering half his price, so no, not a good idea dont try. What you offer depends on the condition, kilometers on the car, etc.....

for a MINT 92 civic with like 200,000k you can expect to pay like 3-4k, it just seems to be the going rate, altho i think its outrageous, its what they go for.

[Kardon]

Why exactly do you think the year is 2001 and its cool to look like a loser driving a riced out cavilier? Go buy a stock civic and see where the scene is now a days.

[barmanjay]

dont buy the blue one, it needs an out of province inspection

[curtis0432]

so do you think my best bet is to go look at the cavalier and if i like it mabe ask for $2000 dollars. and if not look at the civic? or just go look at both of them and then make an offer on one of them?

so what is so bad about an out of province inspection? is it expensive. are they really picky about what condition the car is in? do they not like the mods on cars?

thanks for the quick responses

[barmanjay]

dont bother with the blue cavalier, i'm an ex cavalier guru

if there is any cavalier i would buy,.. it would be pre 95 and with a 3400 swap. not interested in the newer ones.

these are better selections than what you have

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-2002-Pontiac-Grand-Am-Sedan-PRICE-DROP-W0QQAdIdZ156941332

here is a fun one, rare to see on the road too:

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1986-Pontiac-Fiero-GT-Coupe-2-door-W0QQAdIdZ159696803

and these:

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1990-Toyota-Celica-Hatchback-W0QQAdIdZ159416027

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-2nd-owner-W0QQAdIdZ147170646

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1994-Volkswagen-Passat-Full-Sedan-OCASSION-MOVING-TO-EUROPE-W0QQAdIdZ159686859

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1998-Volkswagen-Jetta-GT-Sedan-W0QQAdIdZ159656965

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1994-Ford-Mustang-Convertible-W0QQAdIdZ159633480

[Joe-G]

Honestly, with all the advice being given to you, it seems like your dead set on buying that cavalier. Im not really hating on Cavaliers, and theres a guy on here with a modded J-body thats really sick, but i would opt to get something different.

Looked into other domestic cars? 90's Mustangs go pretty cheap now as well.

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1995-Ford-Mustang-Coupe-2-door-W0QQAdIdZ158198101

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1995-Ford-Mustang-Coupe-2-door-W0QQAdIdZ158737964

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1994-Ford-Mustang-Convertible-W0QQAdIdZ159633480

Grand Prix's as well?

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-2001-Pontiac-Grand-Prix-W0QQAdIdZ147355245

[sr20s14zenki]

^ Nice, haha, my fist car EVER was a Fiero GT. Fun car...when it wasnt broken. 2.8L=shit

[barmanjay]

Originally posted by curtis0432
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so what is so bad about an out of province inspection? is it expensive. are they really picky about what condition the car is in? do they not like the mods on cars?

thanks for the quick responses

yes to all of the above

[barmanjay]

Originally posted by Joe-G
Honestly, with all the advice being given to you, it seems like your dead set on buying that cavalier. Im not really hating on Cavaliers, and theres a guy on here with a modded J-body thats really sick, but i would opt to get something different.

that was freebs, but i think he got rid of it

twin charged, 300+ hp

[Joe-G]

If it needs an OOP, and your stuck up on cash, you cant afford it should something be wrong. The car needs to be perfect

[curtis0432]

so if i decided to buy the blue cavalier how much is an outside of the province inspection. are they really strict on the inspection?

[jdm_eg6]

that civic is hurting! i have seen it before and knew the old owner.

[sr20s14zenki]

I think the inspection is around 300$, and they are strict as hell. I would avoid it, but its your wallet.

[curtis0432]

Ya the thing is i want something that will stand out. there are lots of mustangs in my town and there are lots of sunfire's and Grand Prix, so i wana get something different from every body else.

ok for the outside of province inpection. mabe i can make a deal, so that he can pay for the outside of the province inspection. and then see if it is worth it to buy it.

what would be the most ammount of money that you guys would pay to fix up the cavalier(the blue one)

[Joe-G]

Dont know if this car is already sold, but should be better than any older, stock cavalier. Hes selling it for waay to cheap imo.

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/277623/fs-1998-integra-rs-with-b18c1-swap/

[sr20s14zenki]

You mentioned crossfield, is that where you live or is that just where the cavalier is. I live in crossfield.

[barmanjay]

Originally posted by curtis0432
.....

so what is so bad about an out of province inspection? is it expensive. are they really picky about what condition the car is in? do they not like the mods on cars?

thanks for the quick responses



Originally posted by barmanjay


yes to all of the above



Originally posted by curtis0432
.... are they really strict on the inspection?




:facepalm: :facepalm:

i give up, buy the damn cavalier and go find out how much you have to put in the make it road worthy, then let us know.

everytime it gets inspected it $200-300. could be 2-3 times before you get it roadworthy

[curtis0432]

Ya i live in Crossfield AB. But the cavalier is in airdrie AB.

[Hakkola]

I wish Jeff was still here to bash j-bodies, nobody else can do it quite as well.

I always suggest Volvo's for first cars.

[FiveFreshFish]

Incredible wheel gap:

http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/kj/090905/608r4/7399nd_20.jpeg

[blink1]

Originally posted by barmanjay











:facepalm: :facepalm:

i give up, buy the damn cavalier and go find out how much you have to put in the make it road worthy, then let us know.

everytime it gets inspected it $200-300. could be 2-3 times before you get it roadworthy

:facepalm:

[curtis0432]

Is an incredible wheel gap bad? or Good? or does it matter?

[Kardon]

Well lets just hope OP looks back on this and laughs..
'
btw the wheel gap isn't and issue, it goes well with the rest of the TERRIBLE-ness radiating from that cavi.

[Joe-G]

Originally posted by Hakkola
I wish Jeff was still here to bash j-bodies, nobody else can do it quite as well.

I always suggest Volvo's for first cars.

What happend to him anyways? I rememer how funny and rude his posts were. Did he make another account?

[black13]

why get a civic when you can get the Accord for around that price? I'm talking about the 98-02 accord. Way more luxorious, faster, better looking and if you find the V6 coupe, then thats a big score.

[nissanguy]

non of those cars that you have chosen there all gay

[Redlined_8000]

You got so many good responses and suggestions on other cars but still really got your heart set on that blue Cav.... Go buy it then! Your gonna stand out alright.... :facepalm:

[gqmw]

Originally posted by curtis0432
Is an incredible wheel gap bad? or Good? or does it matter?

Wheel gap is the SPACE between the wheel and the body of the car...as you can see on the blue cav, it has a huge wheel gap.

Again, OP buy what you want, you seem to be very keen on that cavalier...although IMO buying a civic or a teg or something along those lines would be much more reliable for you considering you don't have the money to be fixing this vehicle all the time.

[curtis0432]

so cavaliers are not now for reliability. is that what your saying?

[barmanjay]

Hey Listen kid

I have nothing against Cavaliers, infact there are still 2 in my family.

I think they are great for what they were created for - a cheap small car that has some sporty features.

And they did exactly what they were designed to do, sell to the first car owner as an entry level sporty cheap car, as they competed fairly well against all other imports in the same class. Performance is another story.

Reliability is ok. I'm trying to make you think twice about that specific cavalier. If needing an OOP, it'll likely not pass - ball joints, tie rod ends, maybe wheel bearings and rear brakes. If you don't know how to do any of that stuff, you can bring it to a shop and they'll charge you about $1500 to do all of that.
fyi: if you hit a real sticky OOP inspector, even if the seat belt shows a bit of wear, they'll make you get a new one. If the seat has a small tear, they'll make you get a new one. If they don't like the body kit, they'll make you put it back to stock, including the wheels.

If the car is from back east, it'll likely have rusted out parts on the rear rockers which will need to be repaired before the OOP will pass - rust repair could cost you anywhere from $500-$2000.

The add doesn't state it being a z24,.. just a cavalier, so it'll only have the 2.2 OHV motor with a whopping 119hp at the crank (about 95hp to the wheels). Fine for a cheap car, but keep an eye on your oil level. The oil mysteriously likes to dissappear without trace once the motor is in the higher KM's age.

Don't let the 'foose' wheels sell you. It's just a brand. you can find equal caliber knock-off rims and tires to mate with the car for less than 1000.

If you really want a cavalier, the better buy would be the silver 4dr. Its an actual z24 with the better motor. I know how much was put into it. The motor is much better, except the water pump - pita to change (need to remove the timing cover, rear exhaust manifold and etc to get at it). Even though it might've been hydro-locked, if it was repaired properly, there will be no future issues.iirc - i think aftermarket cams were installed on that motor too.

I personally wouldn't buy any of those cars you posted, I would look more into an accord 2dr v6, or another GTP- but thats just me.

[Nissan_Fanboy]

Originally posted by curtis0432
so cavaliers are not now for reliability. is that what your saying?

Just buy the Shitty ass riced out Caviler and have to worry about doing all the work to it...

I would take, 3 maybe 4 grand, go buy a nice 92-2000 civic. It will treat you well, won't give you any problems...
I don't see why you wanna stand out. If you buy the cavi, you will most definitely get made fun of.

That car SCREAMS RICE !
Don't every buy a car because it looks nice,
(unless its a ferrari/lambo/porche ect)

If i were you, stay away from domestics, and get yourself a non riced, non abused car.

[barmanjay]

if i HAD to choose a newer cavalier. it would be a 2003 or newer from an older couple

2003 is when gm introduced a european motor into the j-body - ecotec (gm still produces a bolt on supercharger kit). too late though, the cavalier has a tarnished name by then.

I especially wont buy one that was driven by someone younger.

[curtis0432]

Ok guys. I know you guys really dont like the cavalier. soo.. i found a car that i like that close to stock but stands about a bit from a normal civic.

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-2001-Honda-Civic-Coupe-2-door-W0QQAdIdZ159516768

do you think i should offer 4000? thats all i can spend.

[Nissan_Fanboy]

Originally posted by curtis0432
Ok guys. I know you guys really dont like the cavalier. soo.. i found a car that i like that close to stock but stands about a bit from a normal civic.

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-2001-Honda-Civic-Coupe-2-door-W0QQAdIdZ159516768

Thats actually not bad, not too riced.
If you could get for 4 it would be great !

EDIT: WTF, it says it has a boost controller ....

[curtis0432]

whats a boost controller?

and do you think i have any hope on getting it for $4000?

[Sentry]

Just stop.

It's your first car.

Buy a $1000 POS and drive that for a year.

[Sentry]

Here you go:
http://calgary.en.craigslist.ca/cto/1405386461.html

Honda Prelude with 148000 kms. It may not be as "cool" as that "ballin" Cavalier you had your eye on but I guarantee it'll run another 148000 kms

Or this:
http://calgary.en.craigslist.ca/cto/1404495060.html

Not super fast but not dogshit slow so you won't get bored of it right away, and Probe GTs are decent cars.

[curtis0432]

ya the thing is i want something that looks decent. I dont want to have rust on the car. plus I would probably have to spend mabe thousand dollars to get that thing road worthy. it looks to crappy to me. It still has to pass inspection.

Im thinking about making an offer on the 2001 honda civic.

but i dont know how much to offer. should i offer around three thousand and then try to get it up to 4000 or should i just offer 4000 right off the bat.

thanks.

[rizfarmer]

go and lowball the shit out of the guy; don't settle for a price any higher than $2500.

[curtis0432]

are u serious? do you think that will work? I just want the car for $4000.

so just ask for 2500. if he says no. which he will say 3000 then say 3500 and than say firm. and then mabe go for 4000?

i dunno much about persuading someone to sell there car for cheap lol. Do you think someone would accept 2500 dollars less than sale price?

[Sentry]

That Probe I posted is in good shape.

[Deetz]

Since your looking for advise, i'll give you my opinion.....

As many have mentioned, the Chev Cavalier is not the best choice. I am for one, a person who hates the car.

- fit and finish are poor
- materials of the interior are very cheap, they look and feel that way
- the stock suspension and handling of the car i consider to be poor and unimpressive
- there are many mechanical parts the wear out much quicker than other makes
- resale is terrible
- they are not fun to drive

As for cars i would suggest you take a good look at, many import models would really be in your best interest

Honda- 92-00 civic, 92-01 Prelude, any year accord
Toyota- any year corolla, 90-99 celica, any year camry
Acura- any year integra, 97-00 el
Mazda- protege, mazda 3
VW- not sure as to what models, but any are a better choice than a cavalier

[curtis0432]

Ok thanks for the replys. what about the honda civic that i posted.

How much would you pay for that car. I just need some advice on the price of that car.

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-2001-Honda-Civic-Coupe-2-door-W0QQAdIdZ159516768

thanks

[Deetz]

Originally posted by curtis0432
Ok thanks for the replys. what about the honda civic that i posted.

How much would you pay for that car. I just need some advice on the price of that car.

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-2001-Honda-Civic-Coupe-2-door-W0QQAdIdZ159516768


the car you posted...i wouldn't bother with that exact one....

- has "really" cheap mods in it. The no name seats are already begging to fade to pink, cheap mats, cheap steering wheel cover, cheap pedals and shift knob....and lol, looks like a couple neon sticks in there
- buy a stock model of that car if you are going to do it

Now, as for the model of civic that car is. It is better than a cavalier, no question. If i were you, i'd consider getting the generation of civic from the year prior, there are any advantages.
The 01-05 civic is a very good car, but there are a few downsides when compared to generations newer and older. I'll list the down sides, since i know you'll ask

- the 1.7L is good quality but very limited in performance, and options are limited also....swaps too unless you were to spend big $$
- the suspension was downgraded to save money, and the car no longer has 4 wheel independent double wishbone
- this gen is known for have struts wear out very prematurely

[sr20s14zenki]

I think some of the problem here man, is that you are looking for too much car and dont have enough money. Its not the seller's of the cars problem if you cant pony up enough cash for a decent car. If you offered me 2500$ on a 4500$ car i would swear at you. Here are your choices, with the money you have, settle for less, or save more money and buy a better car. You dont get something for nothing, remember that.

Why buy a car somebody else has modded to stand out, why dont you start with a blank slate with a nice stock lady driven car, and mod it from there. I know you want to stand out, but thats not how it works, and you dont want somebody else's cheap ricer mods on it, thats for sure. It may fool the hicks in this town, but it wont fool real car guys. If you go to a meet with those mods, you are going to get laughed at.

You have alot to learn, and i dont mean to sound like a jerk or anything, just take the advice.

[Jlude]

Originally posted by Sentry
Just stop.

It's your first car.

Buy a $1000 POS and drive that for a year.


QFT

[curtis0432]

Ok i understand your point. So my best bet would to be buy a stock car and install a killer stereo in it and then go from there.

Ok for the future. How much would it cost to get a body kit. and how easy is it to install?

How much will it be to paint the car around?

How much for cold air intake?

How much for and Performance exhaust with installation ? Can i install that myself? not soo good at welding? should i take a course. or just get installed by a professional.

How much for a set of Rims?

what would be the performance mods that i can do on the car. I really don't know much about performance parts. I do want it to sound good. look good, drive good, be fast enough for my first car.

I probably want to pay like 3000 dollars on a stock car. I want it to have 170 000 or less KM

I probably want a Honda civic. black is perfered colour but silver if not black

what do you think about this one. its stock. Do you I can find cheeper?

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1999-Honda-Civic-Sedan-W0QQAdIdZ157420646

[sr20s14zenki]

Thats a pretty good price man

alot of parts for them are bolt on and very easy to install. You need to understand that cars and modding cost alot of money. Jeez, i think i have 10,000$ into my 240sx and it still kinda looks like poop. If it wasnt for the fact i do my own work, it prolly would be closer to 20,000$ with labour. The way to do it is 1 part at a time over years. Prices change over the years, so youre best just to wing it as you go. Body kit usually around 600-1500$ depending on quality and material used to make it. Paint also depends on who does it, but paint itself is around 300-500$, then you gotta factor in prep, labour, spray booth, etc....


cars cost money one way or another, get used to it

[FiveFreshFish]

Originally posted by curtis0432
So my best bet would to be buy a stock car and install a killer stereo in it and then go from there.


Don't waste money on a stereo that could get stolen and cause you more grief. Buy a wired ipod adapter that's controlled by the factory stereo and be happy with that.

[Nissan_Fanboy]

Originally posted by curtis0432
Ok i understand your point. So my best bet would to be buy a stock car and install a killer stereo in it and then go from there.

Ok for the future. How much would it cost to get a body kit. and how easy is it to install?

How much will it be to paint the car around?

How much for cold air intake?

How much for and Performance exhaust with installation ? Can i install that myself? not soo good at welding? should i take a course. or just get installed by a professional.

How much for a set of Rims?

what would be the performance mods that i can do on the car. I really don't know much about performance parts. I do want it to sound good. look good, drive good, be fast enough for my first car.

I probably want to pay like 3000 dollars on a stock car. I want it to have 170 000 or less KM

I probably want a Honda civic. black is perfered colour but silver if not black

what do you think about this one. its stock. Do you I can find cheeper?

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1999-Honda-Civic-Sedan-W0QQAdIdZ157420646

I got the answer for you,

SEARCH!

Use google my friend,
its an amazing site.

CAI, cheap
Exhaust = 400 easy to install
Body Kit = Gay, don't get one
Rims = 1000 for a nice set + Rubber

Dude, just do some research,
If your getting a civic,
clubcivic.com is a great place
honda-tech
ect.

[FiveFreshFish]

What cars do your friends drive? Not counting their parents' vehicles.

[barmanjay]

Originally posted by curtis0432
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http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-1999-Honda-Civic-Sedan-W0QQAdIdZ157420646


That is a perfect starter

keep it clean: no need for a loud stereo

simple lip kit, nice 17" rims and a lowered stance with lightly tinted windows would make it look very sharp.

Later perhalps an intake for sound and a full exhaust for starter mods and that is as far as I would take it.

[curtis0432]

Ok so how much would this lip kit cost? and how much would it cost to get it the same color as my car. Do you buy it with the same color or do you have to repaint the whole car?

Is a lip Kit the same as a body kit?

and how easy is a lip kit to install?

how much is a lip kit?

how much is a good set 17 rims?

How much is a after market performance muffler?

how much is intake?

could you give me a price range on all this stuff if I do it myself. I would like to learn how to do all this stuff by my self.

thanks. The only i cannot see myself knowing how to do sometime soon is painting and the performance exhaust: just because I don't know how to weld.

thanks

[sr20s14zenki]

GOOGLE man, GOOGLE. We arent walking encyclopedias of car part costs.

[curtis0432]

ok but can you answer this question what is a lip kit and what is a body kit.

so what is the difference between the 2.

[ercchry]

okay.. here is a civic.. visually from the exterior you will notice...

wheels (look like 16" rotas)-used-$600-$800 with tires
front lip- $250-$500
side skirts-$150-300
rear lip- $150-$300
coilovers-$1000-1500

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg258/Jdmcivic_95/RotaSlipstreamCivicRED.jpg

[Kardon]

This is one of the most frustrating threads evar.

BTW nice breakdown of costs ercchry

[S13_Ryan]

A body kit is 4 peices, and all four peices completely replace the stock OEM bumpers.

a lip kit generally is applied to the lower portion of the OEM bumper