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The BMW Guy
10-05-2009, 09:14 PM
I know most of you have been in my shoes before, high school senior facing the reality of post-secondary education, so maybe you guys can help me out a little bit.

I'm close to graduating and going to university but unlike most of my classmates, I don't know what I want to take. I'm not sure what I should choose for a future career.
I've recently had several appointments with my school counselors but they were of little help. I am still undecided as to what I am taking.

I think the problem with not knowing what to do, is that I don't know whats out there.

Hope some of you on here can help me out, I'm extremely frustrated and slightly frightened that I have no planned future ahead of me.
I know there are a lot of successful beyonders on here as well, I'd like to hear what you do for a living. Might give me some inspiration.

97acura
10-05-2009, 09:20 PM
Analyst for a large resource company in town.

First off, if you are just graduating, I wouldn't worry about "not having a future". You are young. If you are unsure, why not take a year off? Personally, I think there are far too many young people who have no idea what they want to do with their lives, and they rush into post secondary, and wind up with some bullshit degree.

You should consider working abroad, traveling, and meeting different people if you are unsure. My 2c. Good luck

:thumbsup:

Seanith
10-05-2009, 09:22 PM
How well you do in school, and what subjects in particular might be useful information.

2Valve0
10-05-2009, 09:29 PM
What are your grades like? and what courses you graduating with? Post-seconadary as in sait? or as in university? Looking to stay in calgary or travel somewhere?

The BMW Guy
10-05-2009, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by 97acura
Analyst for a large resource company in town.

First off, if you are just graduating, I wouldn't worry about "not having a future". You are young. If you are unsure, why not take a year off? Personally, I think there are far too many young people who have no idea what they want to do with their lives, and they rush into post secondary, and wind up with some bullshit degree.

You should consider working abroad, traveling, and meeting different people if you are unsure. My 2c. Good luck

:thumbsup:

I was thinking about that. Talked to my mother about it as well and she was okay with it if I gained new experience. Definately a good idea :thumbsup:


Originally posted by Seanith
How well you do in school, and what subjects in particular might be useful information.

Oh yes, sorry it was a rushed post. Didn't bother thinking about posting what I'm good at...

School grades, I'm over 80% in everything (damn english and physics are holding me back).

I'm good in pretty much everything else. Biology, Chemistry, Math, Social.
Biology is probably my most favourite subject. Human body in particular. I have always and still am intrigued by the human body and how sophisticated it is.

Perhaps I should do something in the medical field...but schooling is harsh and competitive, not sure if I'd make it. But its a start.

I also like working with computers. More specifically, video editing and the such. Its a fun hobby, not sure if I could make a career out of it...just thought I'd throw that in as its one of my passions.

I do lots of sports as well, great fun and good way to socialise/keep active.


Originally posted by 2Valve0
What are your grades like? and what courses you graduating with? Post-seconadary as in sait? or as in university? Looking to stay in calgary or travel somewhere?

Graduating with almost every major course. All sciences, (Bio, Chem, Physics) and English, Social, Math.

Post-secondary as in university. Stay in Calgary or travel...doesn't matter. Either one is good for me.

kaput
10-05-2009, 09:37 PM
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statick
10-06-2009, 08:50 AM
I would certainly suggest taking a year off, if you are unsure about what to do. It will help you in looking at things from a different perspective. You should certainly make use of the time you take off, though. Pursue different volunteering opportunities, do things that push you out of your comfort zone and all the while, do what you can to learn things about yourself.

Jlude
10-06-2009, 09:03 AM
Don't get down on yourself cause you're not sure what you want to do for the rest of your life, most of your friends who DO know, really don't, they just think they do, or they're taking a career path for the money, which isn't gonna last forever, because money isn't everything.

Taking a year off isn't a bad idea either, work, get some work experience, try to get jobs in the industry in which you might be interested in.

beyond_ban
10-06-2009, 09:05 AM
lol @ "The BMW Guy"

scat19
10-06-2009, 09:24 AM
Originally posted by kaput
Just be careful what you decide or you'll be 22 with a massive pile of debt and still no future.

Haha. I'm in this boat right now. Took a year off, turned into 4.

Still not sure what I want to go back to school for. Don't really have too much debt tho.

spike98
10-06-2009, 09:44 AM
One of the best decisions in my life was to take time off right after highschool. I was in the EXACT same boat as yourself. I worked the oil patch for a year and gain some valuable work ethic while making some good money.

I had orginally intended on following the path of my father, as a welder. Work along side them in the field showed me that i really didnt want to do that at all.

Unfortunatly i had not completely set myself on what i wanted to do after the year and enrolled in engineering because i still felt pressured by myself to have a course for my life. I took a year and hated it. A LOT!

Now $10k in debt i thought the world was going to chew me and spit me out because i still wanted something else for my career. I decided to just get a job and deal with it.

I worked at a company that specialized in the service of post drilling well-site completion equipment and from there i found an aspect of that industry that i really liked. So i persued it and took the schooling i had to take and worked very hard. Now 7 years after graduation i am enjoying a very sucessfull and well paid career.

My advice would be to dont jump in with both feet. Get any traveling done and out of the way while KD and wieners are still appealing. Then get out in the workforce and explore as many jobs as you would think you would like.

Its like buying a car, no one would buy a car without test driving it right?

Dumbass17
10-06-2009, 10:14 AM
no matter what job in life you get, you'll always be unhappy :(

haha

Rat Fink
10-06-2009, 10:57 AM
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JfuckinC
10-06-2009, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Dumbass17
no matter what job in life you get, you'll always be unhappy :(

haha

god, so true. It's all about finding the most bearable job lol
So sad :cry:

sxtasy
10-06-2009, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Rat Fink
Every day I thought of different ways I could kill myself with stationary.
:rofl: :rofl: too funny

OP I think a lot of people struggle with the same thing. Even when you do find a job where you make good money, you will probably still think of other things you would like to do.

My suggestion, stay versatile, don't corner yourself into an industry where if the industry fails, you are out of work. I'm one whom thinks that job "security" is bs, perhaps consider starting your own business if that kinda thing is for you. For me its a motivator, because everything I personally do determines my success. If I don't have work, well then I have to go and find it. It keeps things exciting, as opposed to finding ways to kill myself with office stationary lol.

R-Audi
10-06-2009, 12:58 PM
My advice:

I would take a year off after HS, work for 6 months, save up then go travelling. Get a buddy that is committed and go to Europe or AUS etc for ~3+ months. You will learn way more and mature then bumming around the city for a year. Great learning experience plus you get to see what the world has to offer!

After that.. if you are interested in going to Uni (or something similiar) get out of Calgary. Nothing against Calgary schools (I wont even touch that subject) but again you will learn a lot more and mature WAY more living away from home, and starting something completely new. Even if its as close as Edmonton, Red Deer or Lethbridge. For the most part, once you have a degree no one will care where it came from. THere are a few schools that have a bit more umph behind them (McGill, Western, Queens) but for the most part they are all the same.

Unless you know exactly what you want to do.. start with something general. Take a few courses of everything, and go form there. Its easier said then done.. but that should provide a good starting point for anyone. You certainly learn which courses you hate pretty quickly!

GL!

Jlude
10-06-2009, 01:18 PM
And don't listen to what some of the guys above said about you're gonna always be unhappy, they just think that because they and the friends they have are unhappy with their work, that everyone else is. You can certainly find a job that you love.

spike98
10-06-2009, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by Jlude
And don't listen to what some of the guys above said about you're gonna always be unhappy, they just think that because they and the friends they have are unhappy with their work, that everyone else is. You can certainly find a job that you love.


My uncle always told me the key to happiness in the workplace is to not find a job, but to find a hobby and get paid for it.

eg_eric
10-06-2009, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by spike98



My uncle always told me the key to happiness in the workplace is to not find a job, but to find a hobby and get paid for it.


And this is why I am a Web Developer. :thumbsup:

masoncgy
10-06-2009, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by The BMW Guy
I'm close to graduating and going to university but unlike most of my classmates, I don't know what I want to take. I'm not sure what I should choose for a future career.

Word of advice. Don't bother with post-secondary until you know what you want to do. It's a waste of time & money. You're better off checking out the employment opportunities out there and feeling your way out... you're gaining valuable experience and a better understanding of what you enjoy and what you don't like.


Originally posted by The BMW Guy
I think the problem with not knowing what to do, is that I don't know whats out there.

That's why I advise you to start off in the world of employment... take on a job, try it out, see what you like... then, move on to the next one... you will find your way.


Originally posted by The BMW Guy
Hope some of you on here can help me out, I'm extremely frustrated and slightly frightened that I have no planned future ahead of me.

Trust me, there are not very many of us who truly know what we want to do when we 'grow up'... it's a fact. Look at how many times we are expected to change our careers in our working lifetime... several times!

What is enjoyable at age 19 is not always enjoyable at age 25 and so on...


Originally posted by The BMW Guy
I know there are a lot of successful beyonders on here as well, I'd like to hear what you do for a living. Might give me some inspiration.

When I first got into the work force, at age 13, I worked in the restaurants... doing various tasks... moving between 3 difference places until I found one that best suited my interests (at the time)...

I ended up staying at that restaurant for 6 years... and I was running the place when I quit and moved on... experience that was so valuable later on...

Moved to Calgary when I was 20... didn't go back to the restaurants... so I tried my hand at sales... and it was awesome, but I didn't exactly enjoy the company I worked for... so I moved on...

Worked for WestJet for awhile... cabin crew... gave it a try... didn't like it that much, being away from home for long periods is something I realized I didn't enjoy... so I left...

Then I started working in a call centre... and flourished... to the point that after a couple years, I was in senior management and making a ton of cash... and I was immensely successful. You see, it was all of the experience that I had gained in all of my other jobs that boosted me up... and resulted in a tremendous amount of success...

However... I grew tired of that line of work... and left to work for a new home builder here in Calgary, to broaden the horizon a bit... and I loved it... except after awhile, I simply got tired of the office scene... and, you guessed it... I moved on!

Now... I sell welding equipment, consumables & industrial gases in addition to having my own painting business... both are extremely lucrative... and I feel satisfied with my life and where I am at.

Next summer, I move back to BC and incorporate my painting business and move into that field full-time... and I can't wait... it's EXACTLY what I want to do... well, at this time anyway!

Sooo... in the end of all of this... just remember... only you know what you enjoy... what makes you happy... just don't be afraid to try new things... and don't be afraid to fail...

...and relax a bit, life is far too short! ;)

quazimoto
10-06-2009, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by JfuckinC


god, so true. It's all about finding the most bearable job lol
So sad :cry:


Mleh not everyone is unhappy in their career. I'm extremely happy in mine and extremely thankful I am able to do what I do for a living. I don't wake up every day thinking ack I need to go to work.

I would honestly tell you to think of things you enjoy doing and look at any and all angles in which you could possible earn a living doing something you'll enjoy.

Even if you don't make as much money per say, you'll enjoy life more and live a longer life.

tirebob
10-06-2009, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by spike98



My uncle always told me the key to happiness in the workplace is to not find a job, but to find a hobby and get paid for it.

Total opposite for me... Turn your hobby into a job and slowly but surely stops being fun and becomes a grind like anything else.

Finding something you are going to LOVE till you retire is pretty tough as every job becomes irritating and tough at some point, but if you can get in the mindset that no matter what you do, do it as best you can, your chances of success are decent...

cressida_pimpin
10-06-2009, 05:51 PM
When considering university just be careful. If you earn a degree in one of the sciences (bio, chem, kinesiology) this is generally a building block for more education. Science degrees along with bachelors degrees in pyschology, sociology, history etc. are only a means to an end. A lot of undergrad degrees actually require a masters degree to be of any use.

Before you commit to the bachelor program, ask yourself whether you really want to do 6 years of school.

Degrees in computer science, business, nursing, engineering etc. all seem pretty safe in terms of career options with only an undergraduate education.

mac_82
10-06-2009, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by The BMW Guy
I also like working with computers. More specifically, video editing and the such. Its a fun hobby, not sure if I could make a career out of it...just thought I'd throw that in as its one of my passions.

Comm Tech was always my favourite class in high school. When I finished school, I had the choice of going into business or going to art school, I had early acceptance to both. Coming from a family of accountants it was my natural instinct to go into business, but was convinced otherwise to go to art school for a year and try it out. If I didn't like it I would go back into business, but I never turned back. Now I am very happy I made that choice. I might not make as much money as an accountant, but I show up at work everyday with a smile on my face, have a great job, make pretty decent money, and I love what I do. I edit/write/produce/direct, as well as design. Don't be afraid to try to do something that you love. You basically end up doing something you really enjoy and getting paid to do it is just a bonus.

JMaj7
10-06-2009, 06:05 PM
accounting

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I'm just playing. What inspires you? What can you apply yourself to? I'm a science guy and I ended up in accounting because of stupid post high school choices. I'm trying to make up for lost time by going into business because it's easy.

FiveFreshFish
10-06-2009, 06:54 PM
You're asking the right questions at the right time.

A lot of people don't and end up spinning their wheels for years, drifting from one thing to another.

Graham_A_M
10-06-2009, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Rat Fink

Well I did and that diploma is toilet paper to me. I worked in a few engineering offices and every one of them was chalk full of office politics and catty little bitches. (not every one there but definately enough to make a person hate their job). If you want the type of drama you'd find in a hair salon but coming from nerds who haven't worked 1 single truely hard day in their life then go into drafting/engineering. Every day I thought of different ways I could kill myself with stationary.


.....so I continue on as a truck driver of all fucking things. At least I get to piss on american soil every week as perk. :banghead:

Sorry but thats frickin' hilarious. :clap: :rofl:

I agree with what you were saying though. I too wanted the big bucks so I packed up and went to Whitecourt to work in the oilpatch...... only to be laid off thanks to my diabetes.
Now like you, I can honestly appreciate job retention & having a future with a company I like to work in.

The BMW Guy
10-06-2009, 07:19 PM
Wow, great replies!
I wasn't expecting much of a response.

I am seriously debating whether or not to take a year off.
I'm just not sure if I would be able to go back to school after taking so much off... (I slack a lot)

The other option is me going into sciences and pursuing something in the health/medical field (medicine, dentistry, etc.), because of my interests in the human body.

Perhaps open up my own practice once I graduate (8-10 years).
Get a nice office with a nice salt water fish tank and work for myself and possibly team up with other classmates. Mmmm, that would be great...


Originally posted by mac_82


Comm Tech was always my favourite class in high school. When I finished school, I had the choice of going into business or going to art school, I had early acceptance to both. Coming from a family of accountants it was my natural instinct to go into business, but was convinced otherwise to go to art school for a year and try it out. If I didn't like it I would go back into business, but I never turned back. Now I am very happy I made that choice.

Com Tech is soo fun! :thumbsup:
I would actually love to make videos for a career. I've just never thought about doing it because theres not that many jobs available. (from what I've seen/searched up)


I'm currently looking through the UofA course catalog and seeing what courses interest me. It should help quite a bit.

Rat Fink
10-06-2009, 07:22 PM
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The BMW Guy
10-06-2009, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by Rat Fink
since you would love to make videos for a career, and you have an interest in the human body......making either porn or snuff films would be a good path.


I don't think my parents would approve of my work... :rofl:

hash
10-06-2009, 08:19 PM
i was in your shoes 7 years ago. made the decision to move away from home for university. in retrospect, it was the best decision i ever made. i agree, spending a year travelling etc is a good idea... only thing is, don't get used to a lavish lifestyle, or you're not going to want to go back to school. go to another country or continent ideally.

that being said, you can enjoy life while being a full-time student. i've backpacked some good trips, seen a few parts of the world and have a few more planned. i've definitely racked up some debt, but the increased earning potential over the next few years easily makes up for it. try and see your education as an experience in itself and not something that you need to get done to get into the workforce. then you might just find that you like being a lifelong student... like i did haha.

also, don't let the competition scare you away from the health sciences. many people dream big but aren't willing to put in the work. when you're ready to start uni, try out a year in a field you think you might like and bust your balls at it... you'll find that career doors will open up.

aram1000
10-08-2009, 09:23 AM
OP, I understand your dilemma, for me, when I got out of high school, I didn't have much of a choice but go to school right away as my parents put a lot of pressure on me to do so. They are old school immigrants who value education above all else. I ended up enrolling in Engineering because of my love of cars, I wanted to do Mechanical, however at the time, my parents and their friends were pushing electronics engineering because they felt thats where the best job opportunities were (this was back when Nortel was huge). I ended up enrolling in Electronics Engg program and finished it through. Though the whole time i was never sure if it was the right program for me, however i kept thinking i had to finish it, if not , no job etc. After graduation, i worked as a developer for a software company for 1.5 years, after that I went to another software company for 2.5 years as a Database Admin. At my second job, 6 months in I knew the software industry wasn't for me, and am now trying to transition into a career in finance. I'm working on professional accreditation right now, and just started working as a Business Analyst (ie: IT project manager), and so far am liking it.

My advice to you is don't rush the decision, but at the same time school is not a waste. While i don't use much of my engineering degree, i still learned a lot of things which i've been able to apply in other areas along my odd progression. Also, changing careers is pretty common, and can be done as long as you have some patience and a good plan. One thing i've learned is you won't love every job, there is a honeymoon stage, but for me, after that I end up not liking what I do and move on.

If i could go through it again, I would have taken a more relaxed approach to school and not have worried so much about the future. You are young and time is on your side, that being said, its good to have goals in mind and to progress towards them, however, school, career, etc isn't always a linear line, rather it can be a winding road, and you really don't know whats in store. I am quite different then the person i was when i was younger. I probably would have taken some time off to evaluate things, i think in retrospect that would have been good, but at the same time i have no regrets. Even while in school, and when i got out, i've been able to travel, gain some good experiences etc. There is no one right way of doing things, just figuring out what the right way is for you. Good luck with what you decide, you'll be fine.

Celica TVS3
10-08-2009, 08:33 PM
This is how my education and career path progressed



Labour job (installing insulation) > Upgrade math/english at Mount Royal > Acceptance to UofC (Poli Sci) > Part-time job making custom wood windows > Part-time job w/ a retail investment advisor > Graduating w/ a Poli Sci degree > taking the canadian securities course > institutional mutual fund sales (glorified call center) > studying/passing CFA Level 1 > Oil and gas equity research. 



I didn't graduate from high school and say "I want to work in equity research" but as a moved through life I found things I liked and disliked, which has led me to what I do today. 



Bottom line, don't stress about it. Life tends to sort itself out.

Xamim
10-08-2009, 09:13 PM
Take time off. I don't have any regrets about going to Uni after high school. But if I could do it all over again... I would. After graduating high school, get a Working Holiday Visa to Australia or someting and work abroad for a year or so.

D. Dub
10-08-2009, 10:04 PM
OP

Why not get some career testing done by a Psychologist -- Or even find some legit online career testing to really see how your interests and abilities line up?

jaysas_63
10-16-2009, 07:00 PM
DON'T take a year off school!! waste of time! 99% of the people that i knew that took time off from school regret it!

taking a year off makes it MUCH harder to get back into the rhythm of life as a student, i.e more difficult to learn, more difficult to deal with class and HW, hard to get use to living like a student (poor, no time, no life).... and worst of all you will be delaying your inevitable education, and delaying what could be a decent salary after graduation, with one year of BS salary from flippin burgers at mcdicks or selling shoes at Aldo!!

interms of people that argue you need to soul search to figure of what you are ganna do in the future, they might be right if you are looking at a private education in the states where one year of general studies could cost around 40K, BUT in canada with our subsidized education, ur goin to be paying 5K a year in tuition..............so what you should do i DO YOUR SOUL SEARCHING IN A GENERAL PROGRAM IN UNI, that way you keep adjusted to life as a student, dont get rusty, and better of all get more exposure to the different routes school has to offer. AND you will be completing one year worth of general classes which 99% of the time will be applied to the degree that you will end up receiving.

I have 2 younger siblings that recently got out of highschool, i absoloutley stressed that they go right into university, its the only way to go!!

me personally, im working on my 7th year of university, iv completed one degree, and am now working on my professional degree( still have a few yrs left)....i did A LOT of soul searching in undergrad, best time of my life, i grew as a person, and wouldnt have wanted it anyother way

borN
10-16-2009, 08:37 PM
Taking a year off does sound appealing, and I applaud everyone who did it and is happy! For me, I jumped straight into university. Like you, I didn't know what job I was going to aim for. The good thing about university though is that your 1st year is mainly bs. It's intro level courses that you can use in a ton of degrees, as options or as main courses, so that 1st year gives you a ton of information as well. Just something to think about :).

deaftone
10-16-2009, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by jaysas_63
DON'T take a year off school!! waste of time! 99% of the people that i knew that took time off from school regret it!

taking a year off makes it MUCH harder to get back into the rhythm of life as a student, i.e more difficult to learn, more difficult to deal with class and HW, hard to get use to living like a student (poor, no time, no life).... and worst of all you will be delaying your inevitable education, and delaying what could be a decent salary after graduation, with one year of BS salary from flippin burgers at mcdicks or selling shoes at Aldo!!

interms of people that argue you need to soul search to figure of what you are ganna do in the future, they might be right if you are looking at a private education in the states where one year of general studies could cost around 40K, BUT in canada with our subsidized education, ur goin to be paying 5K a year in tuition..............so what you should do i DO YOUR SOUL SEARCHING IN A GENERAL PROGRAM IN UNI, that way you keep adjusted to life as a student, dont get rusty, and better of all get more exposure to the different routes school has to offer. AND you will be completing one year worth of general classes which 99% of the time will be applied to the degree that you will end up receiving.

I have 2 younger siblings that recently got out of highschool, i absoloutley stressed that they go right into university, its the only way to go!!

me personally, im working on my 7th year of university, iv completed one degree, and am now working on my professional degree( still have a few yrs left)....i did A LOT of soul searching in undergrad, best time of my life, i grew as a person, and wouldnt have wanted it anyother way

One thing missing from your post was, "In my opinion".

jaysas_63
10-16-2009, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by deaftone


One thing missing from your post was, "In my opinion".


hahahah i apologize for the opinionated post, but this is a "sensitive" subject for me right now cuz i just went through this exact debate with my family about my brother lol

all im trying to say is that if you know you're going to end up in university, theres no need to take a year off, get in there, do your thing, and come out young! ill be honest theres a few people i know that achieved great things in their year off, but as i said 99% of the people i know weren't as fortunate, and came back to school rusty, a year older, and pissed off hahahaha

Billy_Billions
10-19-2009, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by mac_82
I have a great job, make pretty decent money, and I love what I do. I edit/write/produce/direct, as well as design. Don't be afraid to try to do something that you love. You basically end up doing something you really enjoy and getting paid to do it is just a bonus.

^This

I do something very similar to mac_82. This is after a year in the oilpatch, a year in Australia, 3 years in South Korea and a year of running my own business. Throughout all of those times I knew that my passion was in telling stories and working in media. Now that's what I do everyday. Like he said, not as much money as in O&G, but If you're serious about wanting to get into video editing PM me and I can point you in the right direction here in Calgary.

The BMW Guy
10-19-2009, 08:54 PM
^ PM'd


Well guys, right now I've mostly set my mind on going into the sciences. I'm not going to take a year off, because I most likely will get too used to not being a student.

Right now I'm pushing for Dental or Med school and if those don't work out, then I'm going to head into the Chiropractor/Physio Therapist field, (I like those fields too)

Along the way if I find some other area(s) more interesting I will go for those. But thats my game plan for now...

Thanks for all the input...

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All I have to decide on now is whether it'd be better to stay in Calgary (home, food, job, etc. is provided) or head up to Edmonton (small condo, broke student, etc.) and stay up there for 4 years.

I know the UofA is, for the most part, better than the UofC , but I'm not sure if I would do better in school with or without my family's support that I've grown used to my whole life.

Thoughts?

dino_martini
10-19-2009, 08:57 PM
No shit, I was about to create a thread like this.

I was in the Grade 12 last year, but for now I'm just upgrading. I don't know what I want to do in university either. Its a tough decision, I forget what the exact figure was but about like 30% or so of first year university students change their major before their second year.

I'm thinking Civil Engineering..maybe lol.

good luck, I can't really offer you any help.

deaftone
10-19-2009, 09:09 PM
One thing that I will say (I am much older than you) is that make sure you do not take a year off and drink / take drugs in excess. I know a ton of guys who did, and they are approaching 30 years old and still go all Fubar. It was definitely linked to their few years off out of HS. When you are out of school, you start to develop your habits and your values....

scat19
10-19-2009, 09:18 PM
^Fubar - Fucked up beyond any recognition.

I've found myself since my first post in this thread. I'm currently upgrading, then UofC it is....