hoyles
10-21-2009, 11:38 AM
I have a series of emails back and forth from me to The Brick, but they refuse to acknowledge their ridiculous policies and stopped emailing me back.
After sending three unanswered emails to The Brick's Head Office, and waiting three WEEKS for a reply, I'm posting my experience (to avoid any legal shit) as a warning to others to avoid The Brick.
In a nutshell, I ordered a couch set from The Brick, and as I was moving to a new home and couldn't take it right away, I left nearly a 50% deposit (which was requested from me) to hold the items until my moving date. My moving date arrived, and I receved a phone call from my rep to come out and finalize everything and it would be shipped the next day - awesome. When I got there, I was told that my set, the set I had on hold - with deposit - was "just sold minutes ago to a customer paying cash". Ready to shit a tennis racket, I asked how/why this was done, especially after calling me to come into the store, and I was told it was their "policy" for customers paying cash on site.
So basically, you can go to The Brick today and make an order, leave their requested deposit of $500 or so, they'll call you in a week, say it's in, come pick it up... and when you get there, it was "just sold" to a third party paying cash. (So why take a deposit??) Customer Service explained their brutal, bullshit policies to me, and tried to offer us "a price" on a more expensive set that was a day and night difference from the one we wanted (different size, color, style)...
I sent my email to The Brick, CC'd Regional VP - [email protected] - and the store location - [email protected] - and the best they could do was give me the canned explanation that customer service did, saying a deposit is effort and expense paid in vein and does nothing at The Brick.
Pretty long set of emails below - they're posted for anyone interested in the details and the garbage replies from The Brick. Cheers.
Oct 2 - Mike Hoyles to westrvp, cne, kenny, jen.pearson, diane.alahakko., carla, Ross, peg_leg19, Renard, John, dhoyles
Hello,
My name is Mike Hoyles and I am disappointed to an extent where I will never return to any Brick location ever again, and will serve as an advocate to warn any and every person I encounter for the rest of my days.
Last night marked my 3rd (and final) dealing with a Brick location, where ordering an item(s) -- and holding them with a deposit -- proved to be nothing short of a text book demonstration in futility. (If you care at all, strike 2 was a few months back when a bedroom set - that was promised in 2 weeks - turned in to 66 days . For your records, 1 week /= 33 days.)
I've recently purchased a new home. This house is a considerable step up in size from our previous location, so we have several empty rooms.
Knowing this well ahead of time, I went to the Brick location (3451 SUNRIDGE WAY NE - CALGARY, ALBERTA - T1Y7H5 - Phone: (403) 726-6200 - Email:[email protected]) weeks in advance.
We picked out a couch set that we liked and told the sales lady (Nicole - who did remain courteous throughout this ordeal) that we would not have possession of our new home until September 30th.
She told us this was not a problem, but did warn us that the style set which we selected could be sold out by the time Sept 30th came around - fully understandable, and I would not expect any retailer to hold any item(s) [for free] for weeks on end.
Wednesday, September 30th, finally came around and we took possession of our new home. That very afternoon, I received a phone call from The Brick (Nicole), saying everything went smoothly and our set was there and ready to be delivered. Kudos to Nicole for having scheduled in a reminder call and for keeping an eye on our items.
As I was literally driving the moving truck when I took the call, I explained to her that we would not make it right away, but that we would happily come in the following day - to which she said "No problem".
We left work early on Thursday, October 1st (yesterday), to make it to the Brick by 6:00pm.
Upon arriving, and paging Nicole to clue up our order, she explains to us that (pieces of) our order was just sold to a customer - who was paying cash - less than 24 hours after we were called to come into the location.
My direct question, and reason for sending this email, is to ask you in particular, Regional VP of the Western Locations, what sort of company policy is this?
In terms of a retail, customer-service-oriented business, please describe this policy to me so I can better understand.
In a nutshell, my experience tells me that Customer #1 can come in, select an item for delivery, and pay the --> requested <-- deposit to hold the item.
(Otherwise, please give me your best definition of what a "deposit" means at the Brick. For my current understanding, please see #2 - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deposit)
Meanwhile, Customer #2 can come in with cash-in-hand, and select the exact same item(s), but instead of being told, "This item is currently sold out, we have another shipment coming in 2 weeks", (as per most companies that care about customer satisfaction) he is given the item(s) from Customer #1's order, despite the deposit being made to reserve said item.
Then when Customer #1 (having left a deposit X number of days previous) comes in to pick up their item(s), learns it was sold out from underneath him - and in my specific case - this happened after receiving a phone call specifically asking me to come in. As previously stated, I don't expect any retailer to hold an item for 30 days, and if I had received a phone call two weeks ago saying the last set had sold out and we would have to wait for the next shipment, that is fair and understandable. However, having received a phone call less than 24 hours prior, AND scheduling an appointment to drop by, AND even setting a delivery date - only to arrive and find out it was sold to a cash-in-hand customer for a quick buck (to meet Month End, no doubt), it is highly unacceptable and utterly atrocious customer service. Simply brutal.
(For the record, this particular location is a considerable distance from both my work and my home, and in 5:00 traffic, it took a full hour to detour there and another hour to (leave empty-handed) and get home.)
The transparent efforts of your Customer Service personnel, who tried diligently to prevent us from receiving our deposit back - combined with vague explanations and canned apologies - were considerably short of satisfying. Simply stated; 'Sorry we sold your items after calling you in and setting up a delivery date... Quote: "We'll give you a price on something else, if you like."
Thank you, but no thank you. After clarifying everything with Nicole, our TV Stand would be unavailable until Oct 3rd; the Ottoman is unavailable until the 15th; and our couch set - the item sold out from underneath us and root of the issue - was estimated at, quote, "2 weeks or so". Epic.
As a personal favor to me, I would truly appreciate it if I could receive an email back from you or someone of equal status at the Brick, with a genuine and articulate reply regarding my concerns.
I honestly do not want to see an email from Bob in Customer Service with a canned transcript from Section 2B of the Customer Service Handbook re: Upset Customer - Copy/Paste "I apologize for any inconvenience incurred..." etc.
Anxiously awaiting your response,
Mike Hoyles
PS - If you're wondering why all the CC's - I took a quick poll and found some immediate friends and family members who are currently/soon in the market for household furniture of some sort. Thought this might interest them.
If nothing else, this email at least made its way through 100s of CC'd email addresses and they were good enough to copy me and all The Brick emails as well.
One example:
Oct 2 - Ryan Watson to Christine, jaret.watson, Megan, Albert, Yves, bipin.p.satava., Gail, Danny, Nathan, Mark, Brad, lisle, matthew, westrvp, cne, me
I will be buying a place within the next 6 months and will need new furniture. After reading the email below, I can assure you that when it comes time to shopping around for my furniture, I will not step foot into a Brick store.
Thanks for the heads up Mike. I will help you spread the word of the poor service.
Regards
3 days later, Sunridge Manager Brendan Toupin replied with:
Brendan Toupin to me / Oct 5
Good Afternoon,
I would be happy to address your concerns. I can be reached at the Sunridge location until 6pm today, and will be back in the office Thursday morning. Please contact myself at your earliest convienience.
Thank you,
.....thanks for clearing that up Brendan. Never stepping foot inside a Brick store again. I replied.
Oct 5 - Mike Hoyles to westrvp, cne, kenny, jen.pearson, diane.alahakko., carla, Ross, peg_leg19, Renard, John, dhoyles
Hello Brendan,
Thank you for your reply to my email - I'm pleased to be contacted by a manager.
At this point, due to my work schedule, email is the preferred method of contact. I do not have time to play phone tag and cannot make it out to Sunridge by 6pm any weekday evening without leaving work early and getting home very late.
Back to the issue at hand, there isn't much additional information that I can provide, outside of my initial email, for you to address my concerns. I was basically shocked to the Nth degree to learn that after being called out to your store to finalize my purchase, my items were sold out from underneath me. One thing I failed to mention in my initial email was that my sales rep literally told me, quote, "Your items were stolen from me." I also went home that same evening to a message left on my machine from earlier than morning, actually talking about month-end coming up and how, quote, "We're taking more products in so we're looking to push products out the door."
In the past, I've listened to hearsay about the raw competitiveness at the Brick amongst employees due to your commission program, but this was a first hand experience and just added to my dismay that one rep would underhand another rep. Apparently, a new customer wanted an item already on hold, and being a cash-purchase, your other rep literally took or "stole" from my rep's order (MY order), despite the customer (ie: me) being en route to the store. You must agree that this is not a sound business practice. It is also not the first time such incident has occurred.
The worst part, as my experience that day was one surprise after another, was your customer service team trying their best to retain my deposit and peak my interest in other products. I had already played that game and selected items that matched my predetermined living area, colors, space, etc. Being offered a discount on different, yet slightly more expensive items (that I did not want), was pointless. If I made a deposit on a new truck and later learned it was given to someone else because he was paying cash - how does offering me a discount on a more expensive sports car resolve the situation? I needed the truck. See where I'm coming from?
I'm wondering what kind of cut-throat sales tactics and policies are instituted at the Brick and what kind of customer service is being practiced. I know for a fact that I could walk in the door right now, and in 60 seconds be approached by 4 different people all asking me how I'm doing and what can they help me with. There is a point where customer service becomes sheer bombardment and customers become overwhelmed. Sales rep #2 apparently doesn't know that Sales rep #1 was speaking with me 15 seconds ago and that I said "Just looking, thanks".
Fact of the matter is that I highly doubt my experience will influence any kind of policy change whatsoever and I'm certain that the Brick does very well in regards to sales and bottom line numbers at the end of the year. How else could you be operating for over 37 years with more than 100 locations country-wide?
However, if my email serves as nothing more than another printed letter on your desk, so be it. It will at least serve as warning to anyone/everyone I come in contact with for the next 50 years. So far, I've actually received a surprising response from the very short list of people I sent my original email to. This past weekend I must have received upwards of 10 separate replies, all CCing additional people (most of which were people I don't even know - friend of a friend of a coworker, etc).
My question remains solely about your policies on customer service and for you to explain to me exactly how this happened. Your customer service personnel aptly summed it up for me that frankly, a deposit does nothing at the Brick, and putting an item on hold is basically efforts in vein - you will still sell them out from underneath a customer to give to someone else. This is what I need clarified.
Other than this, Brendan, I have nothing more to be addressed. I appreciate your time in tending to this matter.
Also, in case I have failed to make it evident thus far, I am not concerned with a "deal" on another set or any other product discount. I will not be returning to the Brick for another purchase. Period. Not so much as a coaster or batteries for my remote. Offer me my items for free, a $10,000 Brick Card, you name it - not happening.
For your records, I purchased all the items I could not have at the Brick, plus a 50" TV, at Leon's this past Saturday. My total was $3516.40. While I cannot control others, I know of at least $3516.40 that won't be spent at the Brick.
LEON'S FURNITURE CALGARY (http://www.leons.ca/shared/store/StoreLocations.aspx?State=AB#top)
6825 11 STREET SE
CALGARY, AB T2H2S1
(403) 253-0191
This is not a scare tactic of any kind, I'm not threatening that you'll lose my business and that "you better make me a sweet offer, or else". I'm gone. Purchase made. You can have a copy of the receipt if you like.
For anyone else reading this email, Ben @ Leon's was fantastic - and I made sure to fill him and a few other staff members in on my Brick experience.
Still anxiously awaiting a reply regarding my customer service concerns,
Mike Hoyles
This finally prompted a fast and genuine reply basically explaining that The Brick CEOs failed middle-school English and are unfamiliar with a deposit versus a raincheck.
Brendan Toupin to me / Oct 5
In reply to your question about policy with The Brick, we have a holding policy of seven days from date of invoice for our customers. For this holding of product in the distribution centre to take place the product must be set for pick up or delivery within that seven day timeline, and the invoice and customer account must have a zero balance due. Any invoices set outside of that time period when product is in stock guarantees current pricing and promotion, stock would be dependant on the requested delivery date. If the product is not in stock at our distribution centre, the customer invoice is reserved to a purchase order by date of invoice.
I apologize this information was not throughly explained at point of sale, and will be discussed at length with your sales associate. It should have been made clear when the stock arrived that the invoice should be paid that day to hold stock, and this arrangement could have been done over the phone.
Again I will look into this matter and am available to answer any other questions you may have.
Once again my apologies for the service you received at my location, it is definitely not our intention to miss inform our valued customers.
Brendan Toupin
Store Manager
The Brick Group LP
Calgary Sunridge.
[email protected]
Since I was still CCing everybody, I got a message from my brother in Ontario with similar service received at The Brick:
Oct 5 - Darrell Hoyles to me, btoupin, cne, westrvp, kenny, jen.pearson, diane.alahakko., chad.tymko, carla, Ross, peg_leg19, Renard, John, Steve, dhoyles, rwatson
Hey Mike, unfortunately this is typical "The Brick" service. I have had similar happen to me and heard many horror stories from others. They have no concept of time or care how they screw people. Most of their sales staff are running around like chickens with their heads cut off trying to get sales & commission and have no respect for each other.
I myself will never shop at The Brick again. I was pretty upset & frustrated last time I dealt with them & now your story tops if off. They are no longer on my list. Fortunately we have had a new Leon's recently open next to us so since you had great service there I to will give them my business since I am in the process of looking for a new bedroom suite. I have forwarded your story to over 12,000 people in the global address book at my work plus a couple of people that work for the Toronto Sun. It would be a good story to make the public aware of the way they do business.
Talk to you later
Darrell
He posted a summary with emails attached on a company-wide Intranet board to 12,000 people - awesome. He hopped on board the Leons train too, but just to be clear, I don't work for Leons or give a shit about anybody who does. I switched service providers because I needed my stuff ASAP now that I was moved in and wasn't spending a dime at The Brick.
My final reply to Brendan and still CCing all The Brick emails was Oct 6th - nobody has replied to me since - today is Oct 21st. By my math, that's 15 days. By The Brick's math, it's only been 72 hours. I even took the high road with my last email and didn't CC anybody.
Oct 6 - Mike Hoyles to Brendan, cne, westrvp
Brendan,
I appreciate the prompt reply yesterday. Unfortunately, I had to leave the office and couldn't write back until now.
I find it very disappointing that such a policy is in place, especially nationwide. Basically, if I've understood your email correctly, I was requested to leave a deposit strictly for pricing/promotion purposes - to secure the price, not the product - and seven days from date of invoice would mean the date from when the invoice was paid in FULL - meaning that making a deposit of any amount does nothing in terms of holding a product(s).
In my circumstance, the product was in stock roughly 30 days ago when I left my deposit, all the way up to the day of my phone call (less than 24 hours after I came into the store).
Regardless of an item being paid in full or not, I would trust that after making the deposit and even an appointment for me to drop by, a company as large as the Brick could handle a 24 hour hold placed on the products (again, from my initial point of view, considering I had left a deposit).
My issue lies mostly with having to come into the store only to find out my items were sold since taking the call. That to me, is purely unacceptable.
Nearly 30 days ago, I was forewarned about stock, and you need not discuss "at length" with my associate, Nicole, as she was as courteous and informative as need be, up until the phone call where 2 things did not happen: I wasn't offered the credit card option over the phone (nor knew anything about it until your latest email), and no hold of any kind was placed on my items after arranging our appointment.
(Now regarding the hold, as I am unfamiliar with the inner workings of the Brick, perhaps there was a temporary / 24 hour hold placed on my items and it was simply viewed with complete disregard by another rep and sold anyway - one of the two clearly happened. In which case, the rep(s) aren't to blame because the company has allowed such instances to occur.)
Either option having occurred is not acceptable from a customer perspective - make that multiple customer perspectives as this has gotten quite viral now and I'm yet to have a single person tell me I'm in the wrong - as nobody else would want it to happen to them.
If a deposit cannot guarantee a single minutes' hold on an item, then do not take a deposit.
If I walked into your store on September 1st and there is an item on for $799 versus regular price of $999 - why take my money in order to reserve strictly the price alone? I like to think I'm not that old, but are the days of a raincheck that long gone?
In my experience of purchasing just about everything a typical person would purchase in life, a deposit has held true to reserve an item just as a raincheck has held true to reserve a price (traditionally for out of stock items).
Since I was forewarned that 30 days was too long to reserve the product and that it could very well be out of stock by the time September 30th rolled around - this would warrant a raincheck for precautionary pricing/out of stock purposes, as my deposit clearly did neither.
I would have happily called on Sept 30th to learn if my items were available or not, having a raincheck, and upon discovering they were out of stock, would have settled for the next available delivery date - that's just life. Nobody likes being taken advantage of or playing the fool. I left hundreds of dollars at the Brick for nearly a whole month - for nothing.
Brendan, since the best you can do for me is offer apologies, discounts and have discussions with your staff - I'll have to escalate my concerns further as your are subject to these corporate policies, and that seems to be the root of the issue.
For the third time in succession, I am emailing [email protected] and I expect a reply.
Thank you,
Mike Hoyles
The latest reply I received suggested I forward it to consumer watch at CTV... but over the past 3+ years, I've seen Beyond trump anything CTV could do.
Anyone else experience this kind of crap @ The Brick?
After sending three unanswered emails to The Brick's Head Office, and waiting three WEEKS for a reply, I'm posting my experience (to avoid any legal shit) as a warning to others to avoid The Brick.
In a nutshell, I ordered a couch set from The Brick, and as I was moving to a new home and couldn't take it right away, I left nearly a 50% deposit (which was requested from me) to hold the items until my moving date. My moving date arrived, and I receved a phone call from my rep to come out and finalize everything and it would be shipped the next day - awesome. When I got there, I was told that my set, the set I had on hold - with deposit - was "just sold minutes ago to a customer paying cash". Ready to shit a tennis racket, I asked how/why this was done, especially after calling me to come into the store, and I was told it was their "policy" for customers paying cash on site.
So basically, you can go to The Brick today and make an order, leave their requested deposit of $500 or so, they'll call you in a week, say it's in, come pick it up... and when you get there, it was "just sold" to a third party paying cash. (So why take a deposit??) Customer Service explained their brutal, bullshit policies to me, and tried to offer us "a price" on a more expensive set that was a day and night difference from the one we wanted (different size, color, style)...
I sent my email to The Brick, CC'd Regional VP - [email protected] - and the store location - [email protected] - and the best they could do was give me the canned explanation that customer service did, saying a deposit is effort and expense paid in vein and does nothing at The Brick.
Pretty long set of emails below - they're posted for anyone interested in the details and the garbage replies from The Brick. Cheers.
Oct 2 - Mike Hoyles to westrvp, cne, kenny, jen.pearson, diane.alahakko., carla, Ross, peg_leg19, Renard, John, dhoyles
Hello,
My name is Mike Hoyles and I am disappointed to an extent where I will never return to any Brick location ever again, and will serve as an advocate to warn any and every person I encounter for the rest of my days.
Last night marked my 3rd (and final) dealing with a Brick location, where ordering an item(s) -- and holding them with a deposit -- proved to be nothing short of a text book demonstration in futility. (If you care at all, strike 2 was a few months back when a bedroom set - that was promised in 2 weeks - turned in to 66 days . For your records, 1 week /= 33 days.)
I've recently purchased a new home. This house is a considerable step up in size from our previous location, so we have several empty rooms.
Knowing this well ahead of time, I went to the Brick location (3451 SUNRIDGE WAY NE - CALGARY, ALBERTA - T1Y7H5 - Phone: (403) 726-6200 - Email:[email protected]) weeks in advance.
We picked out a couch set that we liked and told the sales lady (Nicole - who did remain courteous throughout this ordeal) that we would not have possession of our new home until September 30th.
She told us this was not a problem, but did warn us that the style set which we selected could be sold out by the time Sept 30th came around - fully understandable, and I would not expect any retailer to hold any item(s) [for free] for weeks on end.
Wednesday, September 30th, finally came around and we took possession of our new home. That very afternoon, I received a phone call from The Brick (Nicole), saying everything went smoothly and our set was there and ready to be delivered. Kudos to Nicole for having scheduled in a reminder call and for keeping an eye on our items.
As I was literally driving the moving truck when I took the call, I explained to her that we would not make it right away, but that we would happily come in the following day - to which she said "No problem".
We left work early on Thursday, October 1st (yesterday), to make it to the Brick by 6:00pm.
Upon arriving, and paging Nicole to clue up our order, she explains to us that (pieces of) our order was just sold to a customer - who was paying cash - less than 24 hours after we were called to come into the location.
My direct question, and reason for sending this email, is to ask you in particular, Regional VP of the Western Locations, what sort of company policy is this?
In terms of a retail, customer-service-oriented business, please describe this policy to me so I can better understand.
In a nutshell, my experience tells me that Customer #1 can come in, select an item for delivery, and pay the --> requested <-- deposit to hold the item.
(Otherwise, please give me your best definition of what a "deposit" means at the Brick. For my current understanding, please see #2 - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deposit)
Meanwhile, Customer #2 can come in with cash-in-hand, and select the exact same item(s), but instead of being told, "This item is currently sold out, we have another shipment coming in 2 weeks", (as per most companies that care about customer satisfaction) he is given the item(s) from Customer #1's order, despite the deposit being made to reserve said item.
Then when Customer #1 (having left a deposit X number of days previous) comes in to pick up their item(s), learns it was sold out from underneath him - and in my specific case - this happened after receiving a phone call specifically asking me to come in. As previously stated, I don't expect any retailer to hold an item for 30 days, and if I had received a phone call two weeks ago saying the last set had sold out and we would have to wait for the next shipment, that is fair and understandable. However, having received a phone call less than 24 hours prior, AND scheduling an appointment to drop by, AND even setting a delivery date - only to arrive and find out it was sold to a cash-in-hand customer for a quick buck (to meet Month End, no doubt), it is highly unacceptable and utterly atrocious customer service. Simply brutal.
(For the record, this particular location is a considerable distance from both my work and my home, and in 5:00 traffic, it took a full hour to detour there and another hour to (leave empty-handed) and get home.)
The transparent efforts of your Customer Service personnel, who tried diligently to prevent us from receiving our deposit back - combined with vague explanations and canned apologies - were considerably short of satisfying. Simply stated; 'Sorry we sold your items after calling you in and setting up a delivery date... Quote: "We'll give you a price on something else, if you like."
Thank you, but no thank you. After clarifying everything with Nicole, our TV Stand would be unavailable until Oct 3rd; the Ottoman is unavailable until the 15th; and our couch set - the item sold out from underneath us and root of the issue - was estimated at, quote, "2 weeks or so". Epic.
As a personal favor to me, I would truly appreciate it if I could receive an email back from you or someone of equal status at the Brick, with a genuine and articulate reply regarding my concerns.
I honestly do not want to see an email from Bob in Customer Service with a canned transcript from Section 2B of the Customer Service Handbook re: Upset Customer - Copy/Paste "I apologize for any inconvenience incurred..." etc.
Anxiously awaiting your response,
Mike Hoyles
PS - If you're wondering why all the CC's - I took a quick poll and found some immediate friends and family members who are currently/soon in the market for household furniture of some sort. Thought this might interest them.
If nothing else, this email at least made its way through 100s of CC'd email addresses and they were good enough to copy me and all The Brick emails as well.
One example:
Oct 2 - Ryan Watson to Christine, jaret.watson, Megan, Albert, Yves, bipin.p.satava., Gail, Danny, Nathan, Mark, Brad, lisle, matthew, westrvp, cne, me
I will be buying a place within the next 6 months and will need new furniture. After reading the email below, I can assure you that when it comes time to shopping around for my furniture, I will not step foot into a Brick store.
Thanks for the heads up Mike. I will help you spread the word of the poor service.
Regards
3 days later, Sunridge Manager Brendan Toupin replied with:
Brendan Toupin to me / Oct 5
Good Afternoon,
I would be happy to address your concerns. I can be reached at the Sunridge location until 6pm today, and will be back in the office Thursday morning. Please contact myself at your earliest convienience.
Thank you,
.....thanks for clearing that up Brendan. Never stepping foot inside a Brick store again. I replied.
Oct 5 - Mike Hoyles to westrvp, cne, kenny, jen.pearson, diane.alahakko., carla, Ross, peg_leg19, Renard, John, dhoyles
Hello Brendan,
Thank you for your reply to my email - I'm pleased to be contacted by a manager.
At this point, due to my work schedule, email is the preferred method of contact. I do not have time to play phone tag and cannot make it out to Sunridge by 6pm any weekday evening without leaving work early and getting home very late.
Back to the issue at hand, there isn't much additional information that I can provide, outside of my initial email, for you to address my concerns. I was basically shocked to the Nth degree to learn that after being called out to your store to finalize my purchase, my items were sold out from underneath me. One thing I failed to mention in my initial email was that my sales rep literally told me, quote, "Your items were stolen from me." I also went home that same evening to a message left on my machine from earlier than morning, actually talking about month-end coming up and how, quote, "We're taking more products in so we're looking to push products out the door."
In the past, I've listened to hearsay about the raw competitiveness at the Brick amongst employees due to your commission program, but this was a first hand experience and just added to my dismay that one rep would underhand another rep. Apparently, a new customer wanted an item already on hold, and being a cash-purchase, your other rep literally took or "stole" from my rep's order (MY order), despite the customer (ie: me) being en route to the store. You must agree that this is not a sound business practice. It is also not the first time such incident has occurred.
The worst part, as my experience that day was one surprise after another, was your customer service team trying their best to retain my deposit and peak my interest in other products. I had already played that game and selected items that matched my predetermined living area, colors, space, etc. Being offered a discount on different, yet slightly more expensive items (that I did not want), was pointless. If I made a deposit on a new truck and later learned it was given to someone else because he was paying cash - how does offering me a discount on a more expensive sports car resolve the situation? I needed the truck. See where I'm coming from?
I'm wondering what kind of cut-throat sales tactics and policies are instituted at the Brick and what kind of customer service is being practiced. I know for a fact that I could walk in the door right now, and in 60 seconds be approached by 4 different people all asking me how I'm doing and what can they help me with. There is a point where customer service becomes sheer bombardment and customers become overwhelmed. Sales rep #2 apparently doesn't know that Sales rep #1 was speaking with me 15 seconds ago and that I said "Just looking, thanks".
Fact of the matter is that I highly doubt my experience will influence any kind of policy change whatsoever and I'm certain that the Brick does very well in regards to sales and bottom line numbers at the end of the year. How else could you be operating for over 37 years with more than 100 locations country-wide?
However, if my email serves as nothing more than another printed letter on your desk, so be it. It will at least serve as warning to anyone/everyone I come in contact with for the next 50 years. So far, I've actually received a surprising response from the very short list of people I sent my original email to. This past weekend I must have received upwards of 10 separate replies, all CCing additional people (most of which were people I don't even know - friend of a friend of a coworker, etc).
My question remains solely about your policies on customer service and for you to explain to me exactly how this happened. Your customer service personnel aptly summed it up for me that frankly, a deposit does nothing at the Brick, and putting an item on hold is basically efforts in vein - you will still sell them out from underneath a customer to give to someone else. This is what I need clarified.
Other than this, Brendan, I have nothing more to be addressed. I appreciate your time in tending to this matter.
Also, in case I have failed to make it evident thus far, I am not concerned with a "deal" on another set or any other product discount. I will not be returning to the Brick for another purchase. Period. Not so much as a coaster or batteries for my remote. Offer me my items for free, a $10,000 Brick Card, you name it - not happening.
For your records, I purchased all the items I could not have at the Brick, plus a 50" TV, at Leon's this past Saturday. My total was $3516.40. While I cannot control others, I know of at least $3516.40 that won't be spent at the Brick.
LEON'S FURNITURE CALGARY (http://www.leons.ca/shared/store/StoreLocations.aspx?State=AB#top)
6825 11 STREET SE
CALGARY, AB T2H2S1
(403) 253-0191
This is not a scare tactic of any kind, I'm not threatening that you'll lose my business and that "you better make me a sweet offer, or else". I'm gone. Purchase made. You can have a copy of the receipt if you like.
For anyone else reading this email, Ben @ Leon's was fantastic - and I made sure to fill him and a few other staff members in on my Brick experience.
Still anxiously awaiting a reply regarding my customer service concerns,
Mike Hoyles
This finally prompted a fast and genuine reply basically explaining that The Brick CEOs failed middle-school English and are unfamiliar with a deposit versus a raincheck.
Brendan Toupin to me / Oct 5
In reply to your question about policy with The Brick, we have a holding policy of seven days from date of invoice for our customers. For this holding of product in the distribution centre to take place the product must be set for pick up or delivery within that seven day timeline, and the invoice and customer account must have a zero balance due. Any invoices set outside of that time period when product is in stock guarantees current pricing and promotion, stock would be dependant on the requested delivery date. If the product is not in stock at our distribution centre, the customer invoice is reserved to a purchase order by date of invoice.
I apologize this information was not throughly explained at point of sale, and will be discussed at length with your sales associate. It should have been made clear when the stock arrived that the invoice should be paid that day to hold stock, and this arrangement could have been done over the phone.
Again I will look into this matter and am available to answer any other questions you may have.
Once again my apologies for the service you received at my location, it is definitely not our intention to miss inform our valued customers.
Brendan Toupin
Store Manager
The Brick Group LP
Calgary Sunridge.
[email protected]
Since I was still CCing everybody, I got a message from my brother in Ontario with similar service received at The Brick:
Oct 5 - Darrell Hoyles to me, btoupin, cne, westrvp, kenny, jen.pearson, diane.alahakko., chad.tymko, carla, Ross, peg_leg19, Renard, John, Steve, dhoyles, rwatson
Hey Mike, unfortunately this is typical "The Brick" service. I have had similar happen to me and heard many horror stories from others. They have no concept of time or care how they screw people. Most of their sales staff are running around like chickens with their heads cut off trying to get sales & commission and have no respect for each other.
I myself will never shop at The Brick again. I was pretty upset & frustrated last time I dealt with them & now your story tops if off. They are no longer on my list. Fortunately we have had a new Leon's recently open next to us so since you had great service there I to will give them my business since I am in the process of looking for a new bedroom suite. I have forwarded your story to over 12,000 people in the global address book at my work plus a couple of people that work for the Toronto Sun. It would be a good story to make the public aware of the way they do business.
Talk to you later
Darrell
He posted a summary with emails attached on a company-wide Intranet board to 12,000 people - awesome. He hopped on board the Leons train too, but just to be clear, I don't work for Leons or give a shit about anybody who does. I switched service providers because I needed my stuff ASAP now that I was moved in and wasn't spending a dime at The Brick.
My final reply to Brendan and still CCing all The Brick emails was Oct 6th - nobody has replied to me since - today is Oct 21st. By my math, that's 15 days. By The Brick's math, it's only been 72 hours. I even took the high road with my last email and didn't CC anybody.
Oct 6 - Mike Hoyles to Brendan, cne, westrvp
Brendan,
I appreciate the prompt reply yesterday. Unfortunately, I had to leave the office and couldn't write back until now.
I find it very disappointing that such a policy is in place, especially nationwide. Basically, if I've understood your email correctly, I was requested to leave a deposit strictly for pricing/promotion purposes - to secure the price, not the product - and seven days from date of invoice would mean the date from when the invoice was paid in FULL - meaning that making a deposit of any amount does nothing in terms of holding a product(s).
In my circumstance, the product was in stock roughly 30 days ago when I left my deposit, all the way up to the day of my phone call (less than 24 hours after I came into the store).
Regardless of an item being paid in full or not, I would trust that after making the deposit and even an appointment for me to drop by, a company as large as the Brick could handle a 24 hour hold placed on the products (again, from my initial point of view, considering I had left a deposit).
My issue lies mostly with having to come into the store only to find out my items were sold since taking the call. That to me, is purely unacceptable.
Nearly 30 days ago, I was forewarned about stock, and you need not discuss "at length" with my associate, Nicole, as she was as courteous and informative as need be, up until the phone call where 2 things did not happen: I wasn't offered the credit card option over the phone (nor knew anything about it until your latest email), and no hold of any kind was placed on my items after arranging our appointment.
(Now regarding the hold, as I am unfamiliar with the inner workings of the Brick, perhaps there was a temporary / 24 hour hold placed on my items and it was simply viewed with complete disregard by another rep and sold anyway - one of the two clearly happened. In which case, the rep(s) aren't to blame because the company has allowed such instances to occur.)
Either option having occurred is not acceptable from a customer perspective - make that multiple customer perspectives as this has gotten quite viral now and I'm yet to have a single person tell me I'm in the wrong - as nobody else would want it to happen to them.
If a deposit cannot guarantee a single minutes' hold on an item, then do not take a deposit.
If I walked into your store on September 1st and there is an item on for $799 versus regular price of $999 - why take my money in order to reserve strictly the price alone? I like to think I'm not that old, but are the days of a raincheck that long gone?
In my experience of purchasing just about everything a typical person would purchase in life, a deposit has held true to reserve an item just as a raincheck has held true to reserve a price (traditionally for out of stock items).
Since I was forewarned that 30 days was too long to reserve the product and that it could very well be out of stock by the time September 30th rolled around - this would warrant a raincheck for precautionary pricing/out of stock purposes, as my deposit clearly did neither.
I would have happily called on Sept 30th to learn if my items were available or not, having a raincheck, and upon discovering they were out of stock, would have settled for the next available delivery date - that's just life. Nobody likes being taken advantage of or playing the fool. I left hundreds of dollars at the Brick for nearly a whole month - for nothing.
Brendan, since the best you can do for me is offer apologies, discounts and have discussions with your staff - I'll have to escalate my concerns further as your are subject to these corporate policies, and that seems to be the root of the issue.
For the third time in succession, I am emailing [email protected] and I expect a reply.
Thank you,
Mike Hoyles
The latest reply I received suggested I forward it to consumer watch at CTV... but over the past 3+ years, I've seen Beyond trump anything CTV could do.
Anyone else experience this kind of crap @ The Brick?