2008 M3 Sedan

[CSMRX7]

Summer tires installed.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/f1202f01.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/36255985.jpg

[GQBalla]

wow that's amazing.

looks so gangster

[slinkie]

too wide...looks weird




nat

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by slinkie
too wide...looks weird




nat

It's all about traction. I could use more tire...

[shadowz]

RE-11 look great, cant wait to see this at the track

[gpomp]

Originally posted by CSMRX7


It's all about traction. I could use more tire... width has little to do with traction compared to compound... :poosie:

[Team_Mclaren]

Originally posted by gpomp
width has little to do with traction compared to compound... :poosie:

thanks tips. whens the last time you were racing around the track?

[gpomp]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren


thanks tips. whens the last time you were racing around the track? you don't need to be michael schumacher to know that a 30/35 profile tire with a super stiff sidewall and "A" traction rating like the re11 won't provide enough traction for 600 hp.

http://people.mozilla.com/~schrep/ApplesAndOranges.jpg

[Aleks]

Originally posted by CSMRX7
Summer tires installed.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/f1202f01.jpg


How are wide are these?

[GQBalla]

Originally posted by slinkie
too wide...looks weird




nat


no way looks gangster.

plus that video is awesome

[Mr_ET]

Originally posted by gpomp
you don't need to be michael schumacher to know that a 30/35 profile tire with a super stiff sidewall and "A" traction rating like the re11 won't provide enough traction for 600 hp.

http://people.mozilla.com/~schrep/ApplesAndOranges.jpg

It will work fine for street driving, the track might require more aggressive compound selection but I am sure OP knows that and is looking into that already.

[CSMRX7]

These are 305 rears.

As far as a street tire these are about agresive as you can get besides nt05s. I have run almost every r comp out there too. But this season I am taking it easy so street tires only. Too lazy for the work of switching tires and brakes haha

[VWEvo]

Originally posted by slinkie
too wide...looks weird




nat

Agreed, way to wide ;) :rofl:

[VWEvo]

Originally posted by CSMRX7
Not my car but same mods.

Stock vs. SC to give an impression of what the car is like now.

BA1NiBDxecQ

edit - fixed by rage2

Well, at least you need somebody to shoot the video :rofl: I guess that'll be me

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by VWEvo


Agreed, way to wide ;) :rofl:

You are one to talk ;)

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by gpomp
width has little to do with traction compared to compound... :poosie:

Sam

I thought you were an engineer. My contact patch has gone up by 15%

[VWEvo]

Originally posted by CSMRX7


You are one to talk ;)

265's FTW!!!!

[dj_honda]

man. i still need a ride. everyone asks "how is it" and i have to say....i haven't got a ride yet! :( :burnout:

[jdmsource]

Originally posted by dj_honda
man. i still need a ride. everyone asks "how is it" and i have to say....i haven't got a ride yet! :( :burnout:
Damnit Jessy I told you, when you are all done just bring it by and lets go for a ride before Jason even drives it:D haha just kidding, i too need a ride in this

[CSMRX7]

Took some photos with Dave.


http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4020/4533586821_10486f5470_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2775/4533496769_1b0728cb20_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4032/4528523265_5526dfd3f0_o.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4006/4528944560_f9f236a2a1_o.jpg

[atgilchrist]

Nice photos! Only problem is that it looks like the 300 is pulling evenly with the M3 haha.

[KRyn]

God damn those rear tires are fat, I really get a sense of how wide they are as I am standing behind your car typing this. To bad you didn't happen to be going to your car as I was standing beside it writing this. I would have made you pop the hood and start it up! :D

[Joe-G]

Awesome pictures! I'd say Dave is really stepping up his game.

[slinkie]

guess all you kids missed the 'nat'

[m10-power]

Nice RE-11 with 305 on the rear, just did the same tire on my 996TT. So far they are great tires, find out this weekend how they are on the road course...

[911fever]

wow unreal car, looks awesome!

[shadowz]

Can't wait to see it at the track!

[m10-power]

Originally posted by m10-power
Nice RE-11 with 305 on the rear, just did the same tire on my 996TT. So far they are great tires, find out this weekend how they are on the road course...

Tires were awesome for a streetable tire, very impressed.
I'm sure you agreed ;)

[Skyline_Addict]

this thing is nutsssssssss

[CSMRX7]

Thanks for all the comments. To be honest the car is really quite manageable and uneventful. Hopefully I will be able to put the power down on the track.

Thanks to CivicDXR who took a couple more pics last Wednesday. Not sure what else will come but looking at:

Smaller Pulley
Some exhaust adjustment
BBK
New rims
Suspension adjustments

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/4553129435_c0396d690d_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3607/4553770080_487d534f5f_b.jpg

[Kartelli]

just curious what you did for tuning? stock ecu can handle all the adjustments of the added supercharger?

[CSMRX7]

Engine management was Flashed by ESS

The car runs an addaptive system so timing and such is adjusted based on fuel quality as well as temp and humidity.

Additionally ESS adds additional codes and sensors specifically for the SC system which are controlled by the stock system, so the SC has special codes it can throw for diagnostics, and in a serious event can put the car in limp mode.

[Kartelli]

Awesome :thumbsup:

Pretty much as plug and play as you can get.

She's a beauty.

[jdmsource]

this thing's a beast, very linear power, quite the sleeper with stock exhaust now :burnout:

[CSMRX7]

Fedex dropped off a little goodie today!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/8c6833e0.jpg

Doesn't look like much but should be good for a few whp:D

[Redlyne_mr2]

haha Paul's quickness bothered you so much that you had that over nighted after yesterdays track day didnt you?

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
haha Paul's quickness bothered you so much that you had that over nighted after yesterdays track day didnt you?

Was hoping to get it before the track day. He will just mod the 996 anyways to stay just that much faster:banghead:

[psycoticclown]

Sick build! Can't wait to see what's coming next.

[m10-power]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
haha Paul's quickness bothered you so much that you had that over nighted after yesterdays track day didnt you?

:rofl:



Originally posted by CSMRX7
Was hoping to get it before the track day. He will just mod the 996 anyways to stay just that much faster:banghead:

You know with all the hype I figured it would have been faster :poosie:

;)

Looking forward to some more dicing with the new and improved power from that little pulley

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by m10-power


:rofl:




You know with all the hype I figured it would have been faster :poosie:

;)

Looking forward to some more dicing with the new and improved power from that little pulley

If this is not enough then there is another upgrade above this one:devil:

[CSMRX7]

Here are some pics from the last track day with Revwerks

Thanks to Mike Boldt of http://www.mikeboldtphoto.com/

I have never seen an M3 3 wheelin so here it is first:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/DSC_3433.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/29926_396242039889_511749889_385-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/29926_396242094889_511749889_385-1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/DSC_2942.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/DSC_2944.jpg

[CSMRX7]

Some drift action for the camera

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/DSC_3183.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/DSC_3186.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/DSC_3351.jpg

[CSMRX7]

Some other great ones from the day

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/DSC_3431.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/DSC_3342.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/DSC_3336.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/DSC_3289.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/DSC_3287.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/M3/DSC_3231.jpg

[ZorroAMG]

Originally posted by gpomp
width has little to do with traction compared to compound... :poosie:


Originally posted by CSMRX7


Sam

I thought you were an engineer. My contact patch has gone up by 15%


:rofl: Snap.

[CokerRat]

Originally posted by CSMRX7


Sam

I thought you were an engineer. My contact patch has gone up by 15%
Pressure = Force / Area
so, Area = Force / Pressure

If the car's weight didn't change, and the tire pressure is the same.... then the contact patch has to be the same area. It's just wider and shorter now.

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by CokerRat

Pressure = Force / Area
so, Area = Force / Pressure

If the car's weight didn't change, and the tire pressure is the same.... then the contact patch has to be the same area. It's just wider and shorter now.

Honestly its not that simple. Alot of measurements show that contact patch pressure changes with tire width, and that would suggest that the area is changing. Additionally as the shape of the tire has changed this affects side wall deformation and deflection as you increase the force (ie weight transfer due to cornering). This has shown that the wider tire shows a larger area increase under the higher force as well.

A few tire manufacturers and race teams have some good info on this. My initial number of 15% ma be off but you get the point.

[rage2]

Originally posted by CSMRX7
Honestly its not that simple. Alot of measurements show that contact patch pressure changes with tire width, and that would suggest that the area is changing.
When the car is stationary, and all else is equal, contact patch doesn't change. Of course, nobody cares about stationary contact patches anyways.


Originally posted by CSMRX7
Additionally as the shape of the tire has changed this affects side wall deformation and deflection as you increase the force (ie weight transfer due to cornering). This has shown that the wider tire shows a larger area increase under the higher force as well.
Different contact patch shape allows for more grip under lateral load, more force, higher load, bigger contact patch.

[CSMRX7]

You might find the attached article interesting. Most tire companies design tires to be in some deformed state at normal stationary weight that increases as loading occurs. This data shows that below the design limit the tires have nearly the same contact area but under load this is not the case.

Regardless a good read

http://performancesimulations.com/fact-or-fiction-tires-1.htm

[Redlyne_jr]

Car is freaking insane Jason.. tons of power and you know how to drive the shit out of it... :D

[gregrego]

I really like your car, great job on it! Makes me re-think the E90, I didn't think I would ever like it compared to the coupe.. but this changes the mind quickly...

[scat330]

Do I spy a gopro on her?

Sweet car man! I like seeing these cars being driven hard

[CSMRX7]

Ya thats redline's gopro

[m10-power]

Originally posted by CSMRX7
Ya thats redline's gopro

Still have not seen that video from him, wtf? Lazy sod ;)

[Redlyne_mr2]

Sorry man,
I'm trying to get my pos ready for the next track day so if Im not working im in the garage. Have an issue with leaking coolant right now, yay.

[CSMRX7]

No problem would rather see your car at the next track day and wait on the vids :)

[m10-power]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
Sorry man,
I'm trying to get my pos ready for the next track day so if Im not working im in the garage. Have an issue with leaking coolant right now, yay.

What's leaking?

[tomt64]

Jason took me out around the track June 22nd, most impressive was the cornering capabilities of this thing... showed me a thing or 2 about the racing line too, thanks! :thumbsup:

[Myz]

I realise this is an old thread but i had to respond & say WOW!

Back home (South Africa) M3 was the best form of performance car we could get our hands on. Its always been the benchmark since the E36 M was released & since then, we havn't really seen Any Supercharged or Turbo Charged versions of this model yet.

Your build is very inspiring, especially considering you use the car exactly what it was built for-RACING!

Great stuff dude & lets see more updates

[Redlyne_mr2]

J where u been?

[CSMRX7]

Its been a crazy busy summer. Won't even get another chance to go to the track this year!

Have some new plans for the car that should start taking shape over the winter.

Real Carbon Roof
CSL Trunk
LCI Upgrade
Some suspension Upgrades
18" Track wheels with R-Comps


Then also been toying with the idea to:
Change up the exhaust
Front Lip
Different wheels (either SSR SP1 or BBS LM)
I love LMs but am leaning to the SSRs as you don't see them much on BMWs

[Errol.]

CF roof and CSL trunk, what about the dimples on your car, mythbusters says it'll make your car faster!
Cant wait too see your car next year Jason
SSR would look good i think, theres too many BMWs with BBS

[CSMRX7]

A lil update.

In the winter car now :( But that means the car is in the shop.

Currently at Screamin Paintworks getting CSL LCI trunk and lights installed as well as Carbon roof.

Am still deciding on whether or not to do a new hood (maybe arkym), lip and diffuser (likely 3D Design).

May through the CHs on the winter car in the spring then who knows what will go on the M3 the wheel de jour is CCW LM20s but that will likely change before I get to order them.

[Redlyne_mr2]

I can't remember, do the e90 m3's have the hood vents like the e92's?

[Redlyne_jr]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
I can't remember, do the e90 m3's have the hood vents like the e92's?

Yes im almost positive anyways

[CSMRX7]

Ya they do. I think the aftermarket hoods mostly look bad because they keep the stock vents and add more. You end up with too many vents.

[Redlyne_mr2]

ya some guy rolled by with a cf hood on an e90 335, he left it unpainted and it looked horrible. Stick with stock:)

[CSMRX7]

Only thing that I am leaving unpainted is the roof. I am pretty set on stock now for the hood too. Thanks guys!

Now I should measure if there is even a hope of me getting in my driveway with a front lip lol.

[m10-power]

Originally posted by CSMRX7
Real Carbon Roof
CSL Trunk
LCI Upgrade
Some suspension Upgrades
18" Track wheels with R-Comps

Then also been toying with the idea to:
Change up the exhaust
Front Lip
Different wheels (either SSR SP1 or BBS LM)
I love LMs but am leaning to the SSRs as you don't see them much on BMWs

Thats it? Better bring more for next year, at that rate i wont even need to upgrade my stock exhaust...:poosie:

[CSMRX7]

Last year at the track. No need for more track mods.

Otherwise things would be different :D

[m10-power]

Originally posted by CSMRX7
Last year at the track. No need for more track mods.

Otherwise things would be different :D

Maybe, maybe not

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by m10-power


Maybe, maybe not

If we keep a track maybe I will biy a radical, but until then I think track mods are on hold.

[CSMRX7]

New part going on:

Carbon Roof (excuse the dust)

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/IMG_0031.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/IMG_0030.jpg

Carbon CSL style trunk

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/IMG_0034.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/IMG_0033.jpg

Car being paint prepped

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/IMG_0036.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/IMG_0035.jpg

Now the question is same color or color change???

[OBDIIM50]

Saw this at screaming paintworks

[R-Audi]

Why the repaint? Accident or just for the hell of it?

[vtec4life]

go flat grey like the GT3 RS. not matte, flat. would be different. How come you had to paint the whole car anyway?

[K3RMiTdot]

mmmm looking good :love:

[Redlyne_jr]

Originally posted by vtec4life
How come you had to paint the whole car anyway?

Hail damage:poosie: very bad hail damage

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by Redlyne_jr


Hail damage:poosie: very bad hail damage


Not that bad ;)

[Redlyne_jr]

True enough!! Love all the mods csl painted trunk is so sick and the cf roof is gonna look amazing... When does screaming eta this to be finished?

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by Redlyne_jr
True enough!! Love all the mods csl painted trunk is so sick and the cf roof is gonna look amazing... When does screaming eta this to be finished?

Probably end of March would be my guess or later. Just need it back in time for the track, or will have to come out in the M5 in April.

Hoping to order new wheels this week, and possibly construct a set of brake ducts for the first track day.

[Redlyne_jr]

Sounds good man I'm actually fabbing up some brake ducts for my car right now... Front lip has ducts for it so dryer hose hardcore styles and some 2" piping welded to the dust shield should do the trick !!!

[Reggie@MWDesign]

Crazy,

which trunk is this? Vorsteiner?
I like the LCI rear lights as well! I am also doing the LCI Tailight Upgrade on my E92!

Can't wait to see this car out again this summer!

[CSMRX7]

Ya its Vorsteiner, so is the roof.

LCI make a huge difference on the E90, are you going Euro LCI or NA LCI?

Also wheels are ordered and will hopefully arrive end of next week. Not like I can put them on though LOL!

[Reggie@MWDesign]

Originally posted by CSMRX7
Ya its Vorsteiner, so is the roof.

LCI make a huge difference on the E90, are you going Euro LCI or NA LCI?

Also wheels are ordered and will hopefully arrive end of next week. Not like I can put them on though LOL!

That's awesome! I was gonna get the Vorsteiner CSL single side CF but got a Arkym one for the E92 since it's way less common on the E92.

I wanna do the Euro, but $175-200 more? For amber signals is so much!!
Which did you do?

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by Reggie@MWDesign


That's awesome! I was gonna get the Vorsteiner CSL single side CF but got a Arkym one for the E92 since it's way less common on the E92.

I wanna do the Euro, but $175-200 more? For amber signals is so much!!
Which did you do?

NA Version as they came of another 08 that was going back to stock.

[Reggie@MWDesign]

Originally posted by CSMRX7


NA Version as they came of another 08 that was going back to stock.

I will be doing NA version also, but my car needs to be recoded for the LCI lights. Do you know where this can be done locally? The kits for LTBMW or EAS on M3post.com come with the harness and such for the light but there's not plug and play module.

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by Reggie@MWDesign


I will be doing NA version also, but my car needs to be recoded for the LCI lights. Do you know where this can be done locally? The kits for LTBMW or EAS on M3post.com come with the harness and such for the light but there's not plug and play module.

Motorwerkes told me they can program it, but haven't had it done yet.

I bet Calgary or Gallery would do it too though.

[Reggie@MWDesign]

i bet calgary or gallery would do it but at what cost... hahah

just need to get the Scanner tool from Burger Tuning and I can do it myself probably, tons of of coding DIY's on bimmerpost.com

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by Reggie@MWDesign
i bet calgary or gallery would do it but at what cost... hahah

just need to get the Scanner tool from Burger Tuning and I can do it myself probably, tons of of coding DIY's on bimmerpost.com

If you get the scanner let me know.

[Reggie@MWDesign]

Originally posted by CSMRX7


If you get the scanner let me know.

this is what i read up on the forums
Bavarian Technic Scanner (http://www.burgertuning.com/scanner.html)

and here is the DIY's for all the coding stuff you can do on the BMW. Just have to find the LCI tailight coding stuff somehow again.

Coding (http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=451145&highlight=Coding)

[CSMRX7]

Not anymore, I changed my mind, scraped the idea of track wheels since the track is closing and when for some BBS steplip



what about pick up the Volk TE37 G2's from Tunerworks off Rob's E90 M3?

he is asking like $2800 without tires on M3post.com

TE37 G2 from Rob's E90 M3 (http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=494052) Moved this to my build thread to stop clogging up yours. I almost went for Rob's wheels, but decided not to go with black wheels, but they are a great deal!

[Reggie@MWDesign]

Super nice wheels! for a good price though!

so you are thinking BBS now? whatever you get, they have to get here before the 25th of april for track day?

[CSMRX7]

Originally posted by Reggie@MWDesign
Super nice wheels! for a good price though!

so you are thinking BBS now? whatever you get, they have to get here before the 25th of april for track day?

I am just hoping the car is all back together by then. Wheel's are ordered and should be here end of next week or maybet he following week.

[Reggie@MWDesign]

Originally posted by CSMRX7


I am just hoping the car is all back together by then. Wheel's are ordered and should be here end of next week or maybet he following week.

Rhys told me my wheels are here at the end of the month, but hopefully when our wheels get in the weather will warm up hahah

[CSMRX7]

I think that is wishful thinking lol

[Reggie@MWDesign]

hahahah well true, but i am not tooooo anxious yet.... since i am still waiting on parts and i need to order tires soon.. too

[CSMRX7]

Wheels arrived today.

BBS Pirate edition

LM-RRRRRRRRRRRR

Sorry bad joke. On to the pictures.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/IMG_2221.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/IMG_22181of1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/IMG_22201of1.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/IMG_2222.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/csmrx7/IMG_22231of1.jpg

[1-Bar]

Nice rotas! Someone was bound to say it :P. That's gonna look sick!!

[beyond_ban]

Why'd you use BBS caps on those reps? ;)

[89s1]

Wheels look good, in for pics of them mounted, and to see the car repainted.