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11-18-2009, 12:17 AM

Originally posted by ercchry
it is a turbocharged 20 year old car..... do i need to say more? giant money pit

Yes,20 year old turbo car,of coarse their are going to be problems,as their are with buying a brand new car that is right off the lot.but what if you freshin the car up,motor rebuild,new turbo...etc???

..*JDM Hatch*..

11-18-2009, 12:19 AM

Originally posted by Shlade
rb20s are garbagio

buy a gtr

Why buy a GTR,if the RB20's are such a headache,such as turbo's...etc,why have 2 to deal with???

ercchry

11-18-2009, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by ..*JDM Hatch*..

.but what if you freshin the car up,motor rebuild,new turbo...etc???

then you spend $20,000+.... and still have a 20 year old car... you can buy mine and find out though if you want..... full cage, fia approved buckets and harnesses... rb25....

ercchry

11-18-2009, 12:25 AM

Originally posted by ..*JDM Hatch*..

Why buy a GTR,if the RB20's are such a headache,such as turbo's...etc,why have 2 to deal with???

gtr=rb26.... rb20s are not necessarily the headache (they just suck).... the headaches come from the car breaking down once a month and dumping almost a mortgage payment into them every month... i was actually looking forward to winter so i could park mine

..*JDM Hatch*..

11-18-2009, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by ercchry

gtr=rb26.... rb20s are not necessarily the headache (they just suck).... the headaches come from the car breaking down once a month and dumping almost a mortgage payment into them every month... i was actually looking forward to winter so i could park mine

It is not like i am looking for a race car,or something to drive the shit out of,but i am just looking for a decent little car,i am not looking for a GTR where they haul ass,i want something with a little bit of pep to it,but not anything stupid...and i Don't have a problem with spending some money on my car,i'm not an idiot who buys a stock Skyline and goes out and buy's a boost controller and tries to run 18lbs out of a stock turbo....then blows it and Eff's the car up and says' "oh what a POS"

I am just looking for an opinion from someone that is not a ricer and tries to race at every light that i stop at...etc.I just want a nice clean ride to have,I have driven Skyline's quite a few times,and out of them all i like the R32 Gts-t's the best...including GTR's not a big fan,i hate AWD.

psycoticclown

11-18-2009, 12:37 AM

How much money you got? Better cars for the money, especially if you think you're gonna rebuild motors and get new turbos. My friend has an R32 and it was always breaking down. Break it out for summer and half the summer he was driving his winter car because it was in the shop all the time. And they aren't a little car by any means and not that quick either. Get an MR2 if you want something quick and small.

ercchry

11-18-2009, 12:38 AM

ummm hi, i would be the opposite of a ricer... my car was only driven from my house to track and back once every other week running 10psi on rb25....

if you want a decent little a to b car get a kia

personally i find much more joy in driving my 4000lbs V8 infiniti around then that stupid skyline... heated seats, power eeevverrr thing.... leather....

ercchry

11-18-2009, 12:42 AM

..*JDM Hatch*..

11-18-2009, 12:43 AM

Originally posted by psycoticclown
How much money you got? Better cars for the money, especially if you think you're gonna rebuild motors and get new turbos. My friend has an R32 and it was always breaking down. Break it out for summer and half the summer he was driving his winter car because it was in the shop all the time. And they aren't a little car by any means and not that quick either. Get an MR2 if you want something quick and small.

Not looking for an MR2,quite ugly little things,and i know they aren't "little" by any means,but i think they are good looking cars in my opinion.As for money wise,i have enough to get by + sum.But 1 question is,How does your friend drive his R32??? drifting and sh*t like that??? i am not looking to drift,circuit,time attack,etc....I am just looking for something to drive,not like a douche.

I want to know what all breaks on these things,just by driving it normally.Like just because someone buys a Skyline,they automaticaly think that they have just purchased a race car.Not the case at all.This is why i want to know what breaks and Eff's up all the time?

ercchry

11-18-2009, 12:54 AM

well for starters it is a 20 year old car... that probably sat in japan for a period of its life, so everything that is made of rubber will be dry/drying up and cracking... which means leaks.... lots of leaks, coolant, oil.... hell even gear oil....

chances are it will have this weird japenese musk to it too... only way i got rid of it was by stripping all cloth out of the car and adding fresh seats...

also for some reason they are not huge on oil changes in japan... so you will probably end up with some sludge in the pan, and some worn out engine parts.... rebuilds are ideal... but too damn expensive for a car worth $5g

if it has factory suspension chances are that will be well worn....

jonfoo

11-18-2009, 12:55 AM

i really don't see whats not to get, its a 20 yr old car, its not just one thing that fails after 20 yrs, everything basically fails, lets look at 20 yr old cars, ur 90 civic and 90 corrolas, the most "reliable" cars u can get, they still SUCK

how many 20 yr old cars do u see on the road anyways, and driving is a luxury in japan, u never know what 60k km means on japanese streets, yeah maybe u don't drive it like a douche but think about it, if it was 1990 and ur a japanese business man with alot of cash, and u just bought a sporty little coupe, what are you gonna do?

inline6turbo

11-18-2009, 12:59 AM

I had a GTST for just over a year and a half. Loved it actually. Never had any problems. When I bought it I flushed the fluids, did the timing belt and tensioner, spark plugs, replaced the rotors and pads and I believe that was it... hard to remember as that was over 5 years ago (wow time flies...). I had a couple little leaks but nothing unusual for a then 14-15 year old car. Overall it was awesome reliable for me and I wasn't exactly kind to it ;)

Interior pieces are a little on the weak side though, common for the center vents to break, but you can buy them at Brasso Nissan for like ~20$.

Mine started rusting a little but I did drive it through two winters. Engine wise their pretty decent when stock. Modding wise... ehh... swap an RB25 in it. Rids you of common problems and opens up a bit more on the tuning side. All engine have their quirks, GTRs have their own (oil pump collar for starters), nothing's perfect.

..*JDM Hatch*..

11-18-2009, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by ercchry
well for starters it is a 20 year old car... that probably sat in japan for a period of its life, so everything that is made of rubber will be dry/drying up and cracking... which means leaks.... lots of leaks, coolant, oil.... hell even gear oil....

chances are it will have this weird japenese musk to it too... only way i got rid of it was by stripping all cloth out of the car and adding fresh seats...

also for some reason they are not huge on oil changes in japan... so you will probably end up with some sludge in the pan, and some worn out engine parts.... rebuilds are ideal... but too damn expensive for a car worth $5g

if it has factory suspension chances are that will be well worn....

Ok,this is the answer i was looking for.this is a HUGE help,and i know what to change,Thank you for your help

as for
"chances are it will have this weird japenese musk to it too... only way i got rid of it was by stripping all cloth out of the car and adding fresh seats..."

I have noticed that in JDM cars,that is funny,but that will be taken care of with some new seats,aswell as carpet.......or could do the one a day douche bag fix,1 can of Axe per 6 hours,LMAO.

But i really do appreciate this.Thanks Again.

Kardon

11-18-2009, 01:01 AM

Neither of my JDM's had any stank, but I've never been the first canadian owner of a JDM..

..*JDM Hatch*..

11-18-2009, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by inline6turbo
I had a GTST for just over a year and a half. Loved it actually. Never had any problems. When I bought it I flushed the fluids, did the timing belt and tensioner, spark plugs, replaced the rotors and pads and I believe that was it... hard to remember as that was over 5 years ago (wow time flies...). I had a couple little leaks but nothing unusual for a then 14-15 year old car. Overall it was awesome reliable for me and I wasn't exactly kind to it ;)

Interior pieces are a little on the weak side though, common for the center vents to break, but you can buy them at Brasso Nissan for like ~20$.

Mine started rusting a little but I did drive it through two winters. Engine wise their pretty decent when stock. Modding wise... ehh... swap an RB25 in it. Rids you of common problems and opens up a bit more on the tuning side. All engine have their quirks, GTRs have their own (oil pump collar for starters), nothing's perfect.

This is what i was planning on doing upon purchasing the car,just because the previous owner says the just did an oil change,rad flush,etc.i still do them all as soon as i get the car,as for the rust part,the plan is for the car to sit in the body shop and get painted and what not for a period of time,then in to my garage for the remaining time of winter it goes.

psycoticclown

11-18-2009, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by ..*JDM Hatch*..

Not looking for an MR2,quite ugly little things,and i know they aren't "little" by any means,but i think they are good looking cars in my opinion.As for money wise,i have enough to get by + sum.But 1 question is,How does your friend drive his R32??? drifting and sh*t like that??? i am not looking to drift,circuit,time attack,etc....I am just looking for something to drive,not like a douche.

I want to know what all breaks on these things,just by driving it normally.Like just because someone buys a Skyline,they automaticaly think that they have just purchased a race car.Not the case at all.This is why i want to know what breaks and Eff's up all the time?

I don't think he ever tracked his car, definitely know he never auto-xed or circuited it. Just daily drove it really. Has an R33 now but tbh, old cars are just so... meh now. Price he payed for his cars, he coulda easily got a much faster, much cleaner new ride, not some car that has dents and dings all over it. Maybe it's just him though.

drewb

11-18-2009, 01:38 AM

I have had next to no problems with mine.

chris746

11-18-2009, 10:43 AM

awesome cars if they are not abused. the muff whos talking shit there had problems because he bagged the piss out of it daily.

ercchry

11-18-2009, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by chris746
awesome cars if they are not abused. the muff whos talking shit there had problems because he bagged the piss out of it daily.

yeah you fucking got it :thumbsup:

... if by daily you mean i drove it twice a month.... a 20 year old car has had 20 years of ownership before you even touch it :banghead:

aristocrat

11-18-2009, 06:21 PM

I had an 89 GTS-4, awesome little car, RB20, AWD, only thing wrong with it was it had a leaky brake caliper, 150$ fix and it was mint. had a broken air vent but who cares. They are nice little cars. Buddy here above me clearly got a lemon from japan if hes having htat many issues.
Ive had 3 jdms and they have all been really great to me.
My aristo was AWESOME. It has 105,000 Kms and absolutely mint, and hauled ass. Nothing was broken.
Yeah sure they sit in japan, but its not liek they sit in the sun. They are generally covered and cool.
Dont take buddies opinion seriously. If you want a Gts-T, get one. I would buy one again if i didnt want the GTR power.

cjay^

11-18-2009, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by psycoticclown

I don't think he ever tracked his car, definitely know he never auto-xed or circuited it. Just daily drove it really. Has an R33 now but tbh, old cars are just so... meh now. Price he payed for his cars, he coulda easily got a much faster, much cleaner new ride, not some car that has dents and dings all over it. Maybe it's just him though.

I disagree, an R33 is what? $8000 tops? so you are saying he could have gotten a much cleaner, much newer, much faster car for $8000?

I have had my Silvia for a year and a half and have had to do 2 things total: rear main output shaft seal, and a coil pack, a whopping $180 worth of maintenance. I don't bag the shit out of it by any means, but obviously it gets driven hard every now and then.

Sorath

11-18-2009, 07:04 PM

Buy mine. So you can kill yourself and then there will be no more problems

psycoticclown

11-18-2009, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by cjay^

I disagree, an R33 is what? $8000 tops? so you are saying he could have gotten a much cleaner, much newer, much faster car for $8000?

I have had my Silvia for a year and a half and have had to do 2 things total: rear main output shaft seal, and a coil pack, a whopping $180 worth of maintenance. I don't bag the shit out of it by any means, but obviously it gets driven hard every now and then.

Yes he can. MR2 that was posted earlier is much nicer, quicker, cleaner and LHD. Might not be much newer but a damn nice little car. And in much better condition than what he had his in. Plus less kms and much more unique than a Skyline. Plus a much nicer interior.

If he wants to put a little bit more money, there is a 97 VR4 in the marketplace that is 10k. And that car is nicer, cleaner, 8 years newer and much faster car for just 2k more. Plus only one of 7 in that color and year.

There's tons of options for cars around the 8k-10k, JDM GTS-T's are not a steal at all.

silviak91

11-18-2009, 08:45 PM

Get rb 25det had mine for 2 years and still going strong .

phrozen

11-18-2009, 08:59 PM

Try GTRcanada.com, you won't get nearly as much flaming, and a helluva lot better results in the HELP you are asking for.

cjay^

11-18-2009, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by psycoticclown

Yes he can. MR2 that was posted earlier is much nicer, quicker, cleaner and LHD. Might not be much newer but a damn nice little car. And in much better condition than what he had his in. Plus less kms and much more unique than a Skyline. Plus a much nicer interior.

If he wants to put a little bit more money, there is a 97 VR4 in the marketplace that is 10k. And that car is nicer, cleaner, 8 years newer and much faster car for just 2k more. Plus only one of 7 in that color and year.

There's tons of options for cars around the 8k-10k, JDM GTS-T's are not a steal at all.

Alright, that MR2 is a nice ride for sure. Although I don't think its quite the step up from a JDM that you are making it out to be, the seller says it has scratches and scrapes, and has mismatched rims hence him dropping the price. Easily fixable yes, but the car is already $1k more than the $8000 range of that r33 you mentioned, and around $4k more than what you could get an r32 for.

Also, that MR2 could quite possibly have less power than a GTS-T (depending on what gen of 3SGTE it is), and most certainly has less power than your buddys r33. Even though that VR4 does have around 280hp, it also has a curb weight of 3700lbs. I wouldn't call either of the cars you mentioned slow necessarily, but they definatley aren't "much faster" than a Skyline GTS-T.

JZS_147

11-18-2009, 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Shlade
rb20s are garbagio

buy a gtr

and gtr's aren't garbage?

psycoticclown

11-19-2009, 03:00 AM

Originally posted by cjay^

Alright, that MR2 is a nice ride for sure. Although I don't think its quite the step up from a JDM that you are making it out to be, the seller says it has scratches and scrapes, and has mismatched rims hence him dropping the price. Easily fixable yes, but the car is already $1k more than the $8000 range of that r33 you mentioned, and around $4k more than what you could get an r32 for.

Also, that MR2 could quite possibly have less power than a GTS-T (depending on what gen of 3SGTE it is), and most certainly has less power than your buddys r33. Even though that VR4 does have around 280hp, it also has a curb weight of 3700lbs. I wouldn't call either of the cars you mentioned slow necessarily, but they definatley aren't "much faster" than a Skyline GTS-T.

Car is actually 8k. And I'm pretty sure it's a JDM engine which puts out 240hp. My friend is putting almost stock, just exhaust and upgraded FMIC and looking from dragtimes.com, R33 with similar specs are running 14.4-14.7. My car is completely neck to neck with his from a roll, where I don't get my AWD advantage and I'm putting 250 @ crank. Those R33's are pretty heavy, the MR2 may put less power but is lighter. Mr2's are doing 14 stock with the JDM 3SGTE.

The Vr4 is running 13.7 1/4 mile with a boost controller, I know that the R33 with exhaust and upgraded FMIC won't run a 13.7.

This isn't hate on the R32 and R33, I actually think they look good and they can put out really good power, but I think for stock power or close to stock power with no real intentions of modding it, there is much better cars for the price.