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-APEX-
11-22-2003, 05:08 PM
car is back up for sale last guy back out of deal at the last moment but any ho. asking 1500 o.b.o fully loaded, powere everything and sunroof.

got some minor problems body is in great shape pait has a little rust above the trim of the 2 back wheels. Also needs a new blub for tail light and needs new batt and a new a-pex seal all this stuff would come to a gran tottal of juss under 300 bucks for all this stuff to get fixed and theres 186,000 km's on engine coulor of car is silver with black trim and grey interior pm me if interested serious deals only thanks

CalgarySS
11-22-2003, 05:15 PM
Any pics online?

ecstasy_civic
11-22-2003, 05:25 PM
Ya pics please.
5spd or auto.

-APEX-
11-22-2003, 05:27 PM
yea i forgot that its a 5spd my frriends digi cam wont put the pics on her comp but i'll see what i can do its a nice looking car and its got the chrome muffler extension on it

James112
11-22-2003, 05:29 PM
Looking for a winter car? i got a 88 Accord i want to get rid of i could trade with cash...its in good shape..new alt, windshield and tires

Maxt
11-22-2003, 05:31 PM
It needs a new apex seal? That means it needs a new rotor and a housing as well....Thats a little more than 300.00
Does it run?....Maxt

-APEX-
11-22-2003, 05:31 PM
ummm...post a pic i'm also looking for a mint shape 87-89 prelude and if someone has an older mr2 laying around and would sell it for an rx and some cash would be great

-APEX-
11-22-2003, 05:34 PM
it did it has'nt been driven for a year the batts toast
no it only needs a new seal i got the all new stuff in it. cause i was told the seal was fine and those parts you listed were the problem so i got all those installed then it still did'nt start so i got a second opion and he said jus the sel was toast all the other parts were fine in the first place

CalgarySS
11-22-2003, 05:39 PM
You already replaced the rotor?

-APEX-
11-22-2003, 05:55 PM
yea all the stuff in it was replaced up the seal cause a dubass meh did the inspection on it wrong lol but all it requires is a new seal and a batt and its good to go

Maxt
11-22-2003, 06:48 PM
Umm, you have to take the apex seals out of a rotor to replace the rotor, so why would someone put a new rotor in along with toasted apex seals.. Something not adding up here....Maxt

AutodreamMarvin
11-22-2003, 07:31 PM
i thought it was a gx?
is the hub 5 or 4 bolt?
interested in a trade for 88 prelude si 4ws?
let me know.

-APEX-
11-22-2003, 07:37 PM
no its an 89 gxl jus to calrify for all.

oh yea and for you maxt i never paied for the parts i bought this car off my ex-gf and she said she got a mechanice to do it for her wich is very weird like you said it dont add up but its all good but the seal.

chris
11-22-2003, 07:47 PM
check your pm

CalgarySS
11-22-2003, 08:12 PM
Aww come on. Everyone reuses gaskets/seals when they do internal engine work.....

Lets get all the facts about this car straight before someone buys it.

Answer ALL of these questions and someone might buy it.

Year?
Make?
Model?
Mileage on body?
Mileage on powertrain
Transmission?
Turbo/na?
Parts that require replacing for safety?
Parts that require replacing for driveability?
Parts that require replacing for aesthetics?
Amount of rust?
Location of rust?
Parts changed recently?
Receipts for Parts changed recently?
Interior Color?
Condition of interior?
Exterior color?
Condition of Paint?

People wonder why few cars sell in websites like this. This is a great place to advertise but, we need a reasonable amount of information to even bother driving across town to check it out.



Thanks

Gord.

-APEX-
11-22-2003, 09:44 PM
Please read the Forum Rules and Terms of Use (http://forums.beyond.ca/articles.php?action=data&item=1) before posting again, or risk getting banned.

-APEX-
11-22-2003, 09:49 PM
Year-1989
Make-Mazda
Model-RX-7 (GXL)
Mileage on body-168,000
Mileage on powertrain-168,000
Transmission-5 Spd. Standard
Turbo/na-Na
Parts that require replacing for safety-new blub for left tail light
Parts that require replacing for driveability-A-pex seal
Parts that require replacing for aesthetics-none
Amount of rust-minor
Location of rust-above the 2 back wheels
Parts changed recently-rotary disc and a few other parts
Receipts for Parts changed recently-have to find then
Interior Color-grey
Condition of interior-mint
Exterior color-silver with black trim
Condition of Paint-great no scrathcehs the pait is rusting above the to back wheel and no rust on body

CalgarySS
11-22-2003, 09:51 PM
Awesome! Now we are talking!

ecstasy_civic
11-23-2003, 12:00 AM
Im definatley interested.

Ill PM you tommorow and we can go from there.

-APEX-
11-23-2003, 01:12 AM
sounds good man

Akagi Redsuns
11-23-2003, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by -APEX-
yea all the stuff in it was replaced up the seal cause a dubass meh did the inspection on it wrong lol but all it requires is a new seal and a batt and its good to go

You make it sound like the Apex seal is a simple seal and thats all....it's not. That seal is integral to the health of the engine. The Apex seal is basically the equivalent of piston ring in a regular piston motor. Pretty serious "seal" and it wouldn't cost as little as $300 to repair as it requires a complete teardown of the engine to get to and replace.....and that's assuming the apex seal didn't work it's way loose and had a field day by gouging the inside of the housing.

theFlash
11-23-2003, 06:18 PM
Hehe, uh yeah it can much more serious than 300... And yeah, if the apex seals are gone, the engine is blown... you don't have compression if your apex seals are toast. The cheapest I've ever heard of a 13B rebuild is 1400 and that's a DIY job... be prepared to pay 4 grand for a rebuilt engine if you don't do the labour yourself.

Anyhow, can you post the VIN? That way I can see exactly what it is, year, base/gx/or gxl. If it hasn't been in any accidents I'd certainly be interested.

CelicaST-162
11-26-2003, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by -APEX-
well bj you dont know shit! i'm trying to sell a car not take shit from you if your courious bout this car post if not shut up.

but anyway ask error* he was gonna buy the car then backed out at last min.

So "apex", my question is did "error*" even get to see the car?

THE GOVERNATOR
11-26-2003, 05:44 PM
yea he did he told me he did anyways and i'll post that vin# soon

-APEX-
11-26-2003, 09:21 PM
yea i gave the vin to governator i lost the paper i wrote it down on

rx7_turbo2
11-27-2003, 09:40 PM
Originally posted by CalgarySS
Aww come on. Everyone reuses gaskets/seals when they do internal engine work.....





You don't understand the rotary motor.

From what I'm gathering the apex seal needs to be replaced (that's a funny way to put it) Just so everyone knows, if the apex seal is gone it's the same as loosing all piston rings on 3 cylinders on a V6. IF the apex seal is in fact bad the motor is basically usless and requires a major rebuild. I hope that clears things up.

Anyone looking to buy this car should do a proper compression test (read how to do one on a rotary first). "It's all good but the seal" won't cut it If the seal is gone your in big trouble and will be ripping the motor apart in no time.

Don't get burnt by this car. Often people miss diagnosis rotary engine trouble and even a licensed mechanic can claim a bunch of stuff he doesnt know shit about, and the motor might turn out to be fine, but please NEEDS NEW APEX SEAL=BLOWN MOTOR don't be misleading people by saying the apex seal is no big deal, it's a huge deal I can't say that enough.

theFlash
11-27-2003, 11:02 PM
Don't worry about posting the VIN for me Apex, I just bought another car, but thanks anyway. I'd say your best bet at selling your rx-7 is to someone who knows about them. I was looking at it because I already have an engine. Find a guy in my position and if your car hasn't been in an accident you'll sell it for sure.

Best of luck.

Primer_Drift
11-28-2003, 12:32 AM
It will still run with a bad apex seal, and like rx7_turbo said its like running a v6 on 3 cylinders.. sometimes one side of the seal will not compress very well and it will still run... it all depends on how bad the seal is. *** Most common cause of a bad apex seal on rotary engines is overheating***

So APEX do you know if it has overheated?

-APEX-
11-28-2003, 12:44 AM
well its has'nt overheated to my knowledge if no one wnats to buy it you gotta come look ta the car for your self its in great condition minus the apex seals and i dont know why people are making a big fuss of the seals apex is jus the brand that makes them there standard rx-7 parts at 56.99 a peice. So if any one interested i'm willing to negotiate price and looking to sell this weekend thanks

CanadianFC
11-28-2003, 01:02 AM
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/rotary-engine-rotor.jpg

That's an apex seal, it's located on the rotor, the rotor sits inside the rotor housing.

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/rotary-engine-intro.jpg

So like everyone else is trying to tell you. To replace that seal, you have to pull the engine out, and replace that little strip of metal and to do that you have to disamble the engine.

The part is cheap because it's just a small strip of metal.
replacing it involves a hell of alot of labor.

Like everything else in the car world labour > parts, take your car to a mechanic shop, ask them to replace a piston ring. The ring itself is probably 50 bucks max. But ask how much labour will be. My guess is more then $750. Times that labour by 4 because that's the law of dealing with rotaries.
That's why it is a big deal.
Not trying to flame, just wanted to pop your bubble that it's only cost 56 bucks to replace a apex seal.

THE GOVERNATOR
11-28-2003, 01:08 AM
well you can always to it to a rotary specialist so ya not getting raped half as bad or dismember the engine your self and get them put it back toghter for ya

rx7_turbo2
11-28-2003, 02:38 PM
OK time to get some things straight.

BAD APEX SEAL=BAD MOTOR It's that simple, a bad apex seal means you need to rebuild the motor. That's it stop saying it's no big deal IT'S A MAJOR DEAL

Primer_Drift. Overheating is not the #1 cause of a bad apex seal, over heating warps the housings which causes a coolant leak into the combustion chamber, and thus the need for a rebuild. It can screw up the apex seals but at that point it's usually and after thought to the warped housings. Detonation is the #1 killer of apex seals.

You were right however a motor with a bad seal or cracked or partially broken seal can still run. I ran mine for a couple months, and on boost it still pulled hard, and it did idle although not that well.

Canadian FC thank you, maybe those pages will help people to understand what's going on here. Rebuilding a rotary motor doesnt need to be as expensive as a piston motor. You just need to find someone that knows what there doing that's all. There are a few out there, if you want info on Sai Dai throw me a PM.

I didnt want to have to yell at everyone like I did at the start of this post but seriously Apex you don't seem to be getting it, if what you claim is true the motor in the car your selling is useless. I will say it again anyone looking at this car should have a proper rotary COMPRESSION TESTdone.

AutodreamMarvin
11-28-2003, 06:03 PM
hey, i'm still interested in buying it outright.
give me a call.

SinisterProbeGt
11-28-2003, 06:57 PM
just for some more clairty here is everything inside a rotary for you

-APEX-
11-28-2003, 07:13 PM
k who ever is interested please pm me with a # were i can contact you thanks

240ssx
10-19-2004, 05:41 PM
Hey man if you still have the car i have a friend who will buy it. let me know, i tried pm you but it says you cant recive. so let me know pm or email. [email protected] he'll take it and i'll get all the details.

StraightFlush
10-19-2004, 06:58 PM
For starters...this post is old...almost 1 YEAR OLD...chances of him selling it to you now...is slim... LOL

And under his name is the word, "BANNED"... may explain why you cant PM the dude...

Try reading next time...or better yet, dont be bringing up posts from the dead....especially in a For Sale Forum.