New Toyota FT-86 pics and info. Production version rumored to be at Geneva autoshow!

[jwocky]

from FT86club (http://www.ft86club.com).

Cool interview with the car's senior designer. Also there's rumors that the production FT-86 will make its appearance at Geneva! Best part is that the redesign rumors appear to be false

Source: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=413

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[InRich]

whats with the fucked up zippers near the venting... :thumbsdow

[KRZY403]

ya i've been wondering for awhile now what those zippers are for :confused:

[avow]

come on now guys, we all know the zippers wont make production.

[Hamann]

:rofl:

Whoever thought of the zippers should just be fired, just hand him his termination slip and a picture of the zippers as explaination :facepalm:

[CivicDXR]

There is no way that the car will come looking exactly like that. The interior will most likely have the biggest change. The zippers will most likely not stay, and the seats well almost definitely be watered down.

I can see though, most of the exterior staying the way it is, save for some minor change in the front to add legal reflectors and such, and maybe some smaller brakes.

If it is left EXACTLY how the concept looked, then it would cost WAY more than planned.

[Redlyne_mr2]

The zippers are awesome, it would make swapping to an aftermarket suede dash cover super easy.

[soloracer]

Too bad that they couldn't be original on their styling. Looks like a baby R35 GTR.

[kvanderlaag]

Originally posted by soloracer
Too bad that they couldn't be original on their styling. Looks like a baby R35 GTR.

Except for the part where it doesn't look like a bloody elephant placenta.

[soloracer]

Elephant placenta or not it's obvious they copied the GTR lines - check out the roof line. How bad is it that they couldn't even come up with an original design?

[Godfuader]

Great news! Chances are that it may be present at the New York auto-show the following month.

[zhao]

seems like a fail car to me.

What will make it special, claims Toyota, is the ultra-light kerb weight, which may be as low as 1250kg in production trim, its purity of response, its handling agility and the fact it will have a proper limited slip differential

on what planet does ultra-lightweight = 1250kg? and that seems like a best case scenerio, and it will likely weigh more. thats going to be one slow and outclassed car if it has any less then 250hp, and rumours had it it will have 155hp O_o.

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by zhao
seems like a fail car to me.

What will make it special, claims Toyota, is the ultra-light kerb weight, which may be as low as 1250kg in production trim, its purity of response, its handling agility and the fact it will have a proper limited slip differential

on what planet does ultra-lightweight = 1250kg? and that seems like a best case scenerio, and it will likely weigh more. thats going to be one slow and outclassed car if it has any less then 250hp, and rumours had it it will have 155hp O_o.
Find another rwd sports coupe currently available for sale that weighs 1250kg or less. :)

[Redlyne_jr]

Originally posted by zhao
seems like a fail car to me.

What will make it special, claims Toyota, is the ultra-light kerb weight, which may be as low as 1250kg in production trim, its purity of response, its handling agility and the fact it will have a proper limited slip differential

on what planet does ultra-lightweight = 1250kg? and that seems like a best case scenerio, and it will likely weigh more. thats going to be one slow and outclassed car if it has any less then 250hp, and rumours had it it will have 155hp O_o.

2700lbs for a car that will still have AC, heated seats, power windows, premium sound system and every other consumer desire in this day and age is a light car.. even in the mid 90's 2500-2700lbs was average and or a lighter car.. haha..

SRT4- 3000lbs
STI - 3300lbs
370z - 3300lbs
evo 10 - 3600lbs..

Face it Sport oriented cars or what is left of them at least:cry: are no longer LIGHT WEIGHT lol..

[soloracer]

Elise/Exige 725 kgs
Miata 1095 kgs
Tiburon 1150 kgs


Even Toyota made a lighter car (Mr2 Spyder @ 980 kgs)
The S2000 was around the 1250 kg mark

It is true that cars today weigh more than 10 years ago though. I believe it's due to the additional safety features and electronics.

[Bizzareo]

Light weight is for pussies. YOU NEED MORE POWER CAPTAIN!


Also very interested in this, hopefully the marketing department does not fuck it up.

And if a Supercharged/Turbo version comes out that would make the market super happy.

[schocker]

If anything it looks like an evora not a gt-r :dunno:
That is a fair weight though with all of the safety stuff they have to put in with all of the regulations. My car is like a 1600kg coupe so it is still going to be very nimble, and a little FI never hurt anyone.

[zhao]

Originally posted by ~Porsche~


2700lbs for a car that will still have AC, heated seats, power windows, premium sound system and every other consumer desire in this day and age is a light car.. even in the mid 90's 2500-2700lbs was average and or a lighter car.. haha..

SRT4- 3000lbs
STI - 3300lbs
370z - 3300lbs
evo 10 - 3600lbs..

Face it Sport oriented cars or what is left of them at least:cry: are no longer LIGHT WEIGHT lol..

as soloracer said:

elise, miata, tiburon, mr-s, s2k are some recent and current cars that weigh similar or far far less. you want a coupe too, how about a rx8, that weighs 1300kg, and is known to be slow, and yet has almost 100hp more then this thing is projected to have.

you mention the 370z. its actually 32xx pounds. 400 pounds more then this best case scenerio, since they only said this 'may' be as low as 2750pounds, yet the 370z has over twice the hp this thing is projected to have and will absolutely kill this car around a track, and yet you can pick one of those up for 40g msrp. while i bet you this FT-86 ends up more then 30g in canada for a base since UK projections state it'll start around 21000 pounds.

u can look at the mid 90s too, check out a 10 year old sti. ac, power options, fogs, 4 doors, etc etc, the same engine this thing has with more crap hanging off it (turbo, IC, etc) and AWD on top of all that. 2800 pounds roughly, and 300hp.

hell, a base rsx weighed roughly 2700 pounds, and had 160hp, and that wasn't quick in 2002, let alone 2012.

[TYMSMNY]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2

Find another rwd sports coupe currently available for sale that weighs 1250kg or less. :)

even look at the lotus..

1987kg + 189hp = 4.9sec 0-60
1987kg + 218hp = 4.3sec 0-60
roughly 10.5kg/1hp

should be interesting...

[clem24]

I thought there was a release from Toyota not too long ago that they were completely ditching this design in favour of something totally different? Or were they just stirring the pot a bit...

[ApexDrift]

Originally posted by KRZY403
ya i've been wondering for awhile now what those zippers are for :confused:

from trev0006's post heres the explanation of the zippers and most likely the interior will be gutted...

http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos-10/02-22-10page-Toyota-FT-86-Concept.htm

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by clem24
I thought there was a release from Toyota not too long ago that they were completely ditching this design in favour of something totally different? Or were they just stirring the pot a bit...
A rumor that was later found to be untrue.

Again you guys posted cars that are no longer in production other than the miata which is smaller with less space and still weighs 1140kgs and the lotus elise although awesome costs twice as much and again isn't a practical every day vehicle. Although most sports cars today are around the 300hp mark they are all quite heavy and you can feel that weight when you push them through a corner. Anyone who says light weight is for pussies has never spent anytime on the track.

[beyond_ban]

Zippers = :thumbsup:

[soloracer]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2

A rumor that was later found to be untrue.

Again you guys posted cars that are no longer in production other than the miata which is smaller with less space and still weighs 1140kgs and the lotus elise although awesome costs twice as much and again isn't a practical every day vehicle. Although most sports cars today are around the 300hp mark they are all quite heavy and you can feel that weight when you push them through a corner. Anyone who says light weight is for pussies has never spent anytime on the track.

The RX8 is still in production and it's weight is nearly identical to the proposed weight of the Toyota. While the RX8 is a nice car I don't think anyone has ever gone off the deep end about how light it was. In fact the biggest criticism was that it didn't have enough get up and go. On the positive note though, at least the RX8 design is an original and not a hacked up clone of a competitors car. If Toyota puts an under 200 hp engine in the FT-86 be prepared to yawn.........

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by soloracer


The RX8 is still in production and it's weight is nearly identical to the proposed weight of the Toyota. While the RX8 is a nice car I don't think anyone has ever gone off the deep end about how light it was. In fact the biggest criticism was that it didn't have enough get up and go. On the positive note though, at least the RX8 design is an original and not a hacked up clone of a competitors car. If Toyota puts an under 200 hp engine in the FT-86 be prepared to yawn.........
Original is not always good, not a big fan of rx8 styling. Speaking of unoriginal designs do you ever get your 944 confused with your rx7? Do people ever mistake it for a 300zx of similar vintage?:D I've said this before but sports cars in through the 80s all looked very similar and it's beginning to happen again.
370z, g35, Genesis, GTR, FT86 all share similar lines.

[cdnsir]

So the one at Geneva is still the concept that we all saw before... Kinda disappointing. :(

But here's a promising but somewhat vague production date. Doesn't mention if it's worldwide or Japan only or anything, but it's better than nothing I guess.



SOURCE: http://www.toyota.eu/about/pages/newsdetails.aspx?prid=511&prs=Corporate&prrm=pressrelease

Having introduced two new mainstream vehicles which deliver tangible customer benefits, let me end on a different note. From the Celica to the MR2, and the Supra, Toyota has created a heritage of exciting sports models. Now, with its distinctive front engine and real-wheel drive configuration, the FT-86 Concept is ready to introduce the next generation of Toyota sports cars. It is extremely light, with a low centre of gravity. This delivers an instant, precise response to even the slightest throttle and steering input. When we introduce the FT-86 Concept in early 2012, it will bring real joy in the Toyota showroom.

[heavyD]

These cars are essentially going to be made by Subaru with Toyota having input right? Not really a true Toyota which is a shame.

[bituerbo]

Man this thing has been 'in production' longer than a GM product. I thought Toyota/Subaru would have been quicker to bring this to market.

[Xtrema]

^ That was before Toyota start to lose billions and billions.

You think Toyota shuns niche products before....... If it weren't for Hyundai, I doubt FT-86 will ever see the light of day.

[jwocky]

Posted today on ft86club (http://www.ft86club.com)

The FT-86 was introduced today at geneva autoshow and it was said that the production car will be introduced in early 2012. Now I wonder when Subaru will start to talk about their version of the FT-86 :uh:

Press conference video on FT86 - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=463
Some great shots from the show - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=456

[heavyD]

Originally posted by jwocky
Posted today on ft86club ("http://www.ft86club.com")

The FT-86 was introduced today at geneva autoshow and it was said that the production car will be introduced in early 2012. Now I wonder when Subaru will start to talk about their version of the FT-86 :uh:

Press conference video on FT86 - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=463
Some great shots from the show - http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=456

I love the hoodline and front end. I sure hope they stay true to the concept and don't neuter this thing for production.

[whiskas]

I wouldn't complain about the power it has out of the factory. This is the kind of car that is affordable to young customers, and gives them a good platform for future mods as they grow up and start making more money.

If they package this with a decent tranny, a proper LSD, and plenty of room under the hood then they'll have a winner.