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Zero102
03-09-2010, 01:18 PM
Can anybody on here tell me how the Hyundai traction control system works on the 2010 Elantra Touring GLS (as I know the 2009 models have different options and TCS was not one of them)? Here is the explanation from the Hyundai site:
"The GLS model comes with Electronic Stability Control (ESC) with Traction Control System (TCS)"

Now, electronic stability control I get, it is based on wheel speeds and steering angle and it can differentially brake the wheels to straighten your path out, but the traction control I have some reservations about. I had this system on my Golf TDI a few years ago, and when you were accelerating and one wheel slipped it would jam the brakes on that wheel, bringing it to an immediate stop and banging quite a bit. This must have been hard as hell on the CV joints and transmission. I am wondering if the Hyundai will have this same idiotic system, and if so, whether that is only on the automatics, or whether the standard transmission models have the same? I tried asking 2 salespeople at the dealership and neither of them could explain how the system worked, all I got out of them was basically "well, it helps you go when it is slippery out", which needless to say, was not a satisfying answer.

Also, I am wondering if there is a Beyond recommended Hyundai dealership here in Calgary? I am asking these questions because I am helping a friend buy a new car (an Elantra Touring obviously) and he is looking to get the maximum trade-in value on his old car. I assume the new car pricing is fixed and that all Hyundai dealerships are going to stick to it, but if somebody can recommend a dealership where they were able to negotiate a higher trade-in value for their car I would really appreciate it. Before somebody suggests it, the guy is an idiot and can't be trusted to sell his own car, and I am not going to handle the entire process of selling his car for him. The last time he tried to sell his own car he sold his Escort (at the time worth ~$5k) for $1600 because it had been for sale 3 whole days and he thought it was never going to sell. :rolleyes:

I have done pretty much the rest of the research on this car for him but on these 2 points I really don't know the answer, any help you guys can give would be appreciated :)

94boosted
03-09-2010, 09:33 PM
Traction control should never jam on the brakes, what it should do is cut power to the engine when it detects excessive wheel spin.


Originally posted by Zero102
I assume the new car pricing is fixed and that all Hyundai dealerships are going to stick to it

Pricing is never fixed they always have some room to move. However if your friend is trading in a vehicle any amount that they add to his trade is in fact coming out of the mark up of the car. Most dealerships will give you the same amount for a trade-in to start and then how much you get added on top of that depends on how much markup/gross there is in the car your buying and how good you are at negotiating. Obviously the best way to go would be to sell the used car himself put that as a down payment and negotiate with the price of the new vehicle however as you say that's not an option. His best bet would then be to see how much his type of car (same model, mileage...) is selling for on autotrader, kijiji... and then go in there and say you want that exact same amount for your trade in, if dealership A can't give it to you go to dealership B and even dealership C if you have too.

nonlinear
03-10-2010, 10:20 AM
IMO the elantra touring is a nice little car for that class. higher quality fit and finish, more features, and lower price than others in that class. commend your friend on a good choice :thumbsup:

as for a recommended hyundai dealer, i can't help you much, but just make sure you get those douchebags to remove all of the advertising stickers and decals BEFORE you drive it off the lot. Our accent that we got from calgary hyundai has a bumper sticker on the front bumper, a giant URL sticker across the back window, and another badge above the hyundai badge on the tailgate. :banghead: the SO (this accent is her downtown core commuter car) called the dealer to have it removed, and the idiot on the phone had no clue wtf she was talking about... she literally had to tell the guy that there is a rubber decal removal tool they need to use in conjunction with a heat gun :banghead:

2Valve0
03-10-2010, 10:26 AM
Make sure you negotiate a price for the car BEFORE you mention any type of trade in so he cant come back on the price. Than if he tries to rip you off for the trade in, sell it on kijiji

Zero102
03-10-2010, 11:13 AM
Thanks for the tips so far, after some searching I managed to find a proper explanation of the Hyundai TCS system, and it does indeed both decrease engine power and apply the brakes to the slipping wheel. It seems like pretty much every manufacturer does this. At least it has an off switch.

I was hoping maybe somebody could supply a car cost canada report on a 2010 Elantra Touring GLS (not GLS Sport)? I seem to need a subscription to get one and it would really help to know how much room they have to move on the price.