Apollo 11 Saturn V Launch - "30 seconds in 8 minutes"

[Pollywog]

Good watch for all you space-nerds out there. I had no idea that so much water was pumped allover the pad post-launch..


This clip is raw from Camera E-8 on the launch umbilical tower/mobile launch program of Apollo 11, July 16, 1969. This is an HD transfer from the 16mm original.

The camera is running at 500 fps, making the total clip of over 8 minutes represent just 30 seconds of actual time. Narration is provided by Mark Gray (me), Executive Producer for Spacecraft Films.
http://vimeo.com/4366695?hd=1

[Spoons]

Still don't believe it was real. We still manage to blow up rockets, have numerous amounts of problems and issues, but in 1969 we managed to get onto the moon? Not to mention the deadly belts of radiation.

There were 6 moon landings, and only one isn't successful? Yet manage to blow up rockets and have numerous amounts of issues now.

Sorry just really don't buy it. Why have we never gone back? There's definitely benifits and resources to use there.

And don't bring "well Mythbusters proved it" to the table. It was just a publicity stunt on the fight against Russia, but they are so caught up in the lie you just can't admit it now. I could be wrong and maybe just misheard a rumour, but wasn't one of the Apollo astronauts arrested for a fake Viagra ring? Sounds real scientist like to me.

[Pollywog]

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/cool_dude100/popcorn.gif

[Spoons]

Well let me rephrase that, I won't really squash all possibilities that I could be real but a lot of things just don't add up. There's tons of people (not crazy loonies although there's probably some way Rob Anders had work with this ;) ) that believe this as well.

I can't physically prove it didn't happen, just like you can't physically prove it did. None of us were there, so logically you can not rule out the possibility of it being fake.

[GoChris]

It does seem odd, that not too long ago when they were talking about going back, how it would cost hundreds of millions, if not a billion or more dollars to send someone back to the moon. Makes it seem like it is so much harder to do it now than 40 years ago.

However, I don't think they could keep a conspiracy that huge a secret for this long.

[kevie88]

Originally posted by Spoons
Still don't believe it was real. We still manage to blow up rockets, have numerous amounts of problems and issues, but in 1969 we managed to get onto the moon? Not to mention the deadly belts of radiation.

There were 6 moon landings, and only one isn't successful? Yet manage to blow up rockets and have numerous amounts of issues now.

Sorry just really don't buy it. Why have we never gone back? There's definitely benifits and resources to use there.

And don't bring "well Mythbusters proved it" to the table. It was just a publicity stunt on the fight against Russia, but they are so caught up in the lie you just can't admit it now. I could be wrong and maybe just misheard a rumour, but wasn't one of the Apollo astronauts arrested for a fake Viagra ring? Sounds real scientist like to me.

I'm thinking maybe my sarcasm detector may be broken? You can't seriously believe it didn't happen, and I think that you provided a ROCK SOLID reason why it wasn't fake- you just have to think about it a little.. The Soviets would have been all over this like white on rice if it was fake. They knew exactly what was going on and never denied that it took place. They were monitoring very closely what was going on.

Yes, it was a PR stunt against the CCCP, and they did it to pass for the lead in the space race. The moon is a dead world, the only reason to go back would be to learn how to better deal with long-term missions in deep space before we press on to Mars and beyond.

As for your theory about resources being there, you're right. There are resources there that we could use here on Earth. It's just that on a pound per pound basis it's probably 1000000x easier and cheaper to just get these resources which are still plentiful here, from here. It's like saying that you COULD just go buy tomatoes from the corner store, but you'd rather fly to Zimbabwe to get them. Sure you could do it, but does it make any sense to do it that way?

[Pollywog]

Originally posted by GoChris
It does seem odd, that not too long ago when they were talking about going back, how it would cost hundreds of millions, if not a billion or more dollars to send someone back to the moon. Makes it seem like it is so much harder to do it now than 40 years ago.

However, I don't think they could keep a conspiracy that huge a secret for this long.

EDIT: Reason we don't fly back and forth to the moon every day:

-It costs A LOT of money
-There is nothing there, and we have enough rock samples
-It is better to focus funding for inter-planetary flight in the future
-etc.

[broken_legs]

Originally posted by Spoons

I can't physically prove it didn't happen, just like you can't physically prove it did. None of us were there, so logically you can not rule out the possibility of it being fake.

I can't rule out the possibility that the Sun revolves around the Earth, but the overwhelming majority of evidence, and lack of evidence to support otherwise tells me that this is false.

There is no evidence that the moon landings were fake.

There is an overwhelming amount of evidence that the moon landings were real.

[Spoons]

Again, we can't even manage to successfully launch rockets to this day everytime. Our best insulation at the time was ethspestis (spelling?).

Like I said I don't completely believe it was fake, and yes there is evidence that it was (and I'm not talking about the photograph bullshit, etc.). Some things just don't add up, so if I was to be logical, I can not rule out that it wasn't fake. Yes it would be a huge conspiracy to cover up, but completely possible to do so.

[Alpine Autowerks]

Originally posted by Spoons
I can't physically prove it didn't happen, just like you can't physically prove it did. None of us were there, so logically you cannot rule out the possibility of it being fake.

I hope that you just stirring the pot for fun .. I makes me sad to think that you believe otherwise.

There is physical proof--- 800+ lbs of lunar rocks carried back by the astronauts (only one of which was a scientist.. the rest were military pilots) and the laser reflector left on the surface of the moon ... if you shine a laser at it you get a reflection -you cannot fake either one.

America was willing to spend a significant proportion on their GDP on beating the Soviets after getting embarrassed by a string of "firsts" and for honoring the dream of an assassinated President (Kennedy). Nearly every company and engineer gave deeply of there own time and resources to contribute to this FIRST.

A friend of mine working (at 2am) in Houston on thermal/radiation profiles for the first landing. He came across a problem where a certain crater and sun angle could cook an astronaut to death before he would feel anything. When the engineers worked out that a detector would add 1 pound to the suit, the detector idea was nixed. Instead they had to work out a list of crater sizes to avoid. This was 1 month before launch of Apollo 11.

or did he just make that up as part of the dis-information program.

[kevie88]

I forgot to say thanks for the great post Pollywog, I really enjoyed that video. I watched a few more of the videos on that channel and they're pretty cool too!

[bspot]

Originally posted by Spoons
ethspestis

Asbestos.

Wow. Definitely stopped reading your post right there.

[01RedDX]

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[95EagleAWD]

Anyone who ACTUALLY believes that we didn't land on the moon in the 60s and 70s needs to have their head kicked.

If someone I knew in person said they ACTUALLY didn't believe we landed on the moon, I would seriously re-examine my friendship with them, because I don't think it's possible for someone to be that dumb.

[eb0i]

Originally posted by bspot


Asbestos.

Wow. Definitely stopped reading your post right there.

Hahaha. Yup.

[Spoons]

Originally posted by bspot


Asbestos.

Wow. Definitely stopped reading your post right there.

I said spelling. I had no clue how to spell it. I admitted my error. Funny thing is I had a brake shoe box right next to me at the time... Could of looked on there.

And yes, stirring the pot for a little fun. Like I said, there are some things in my mind that don't add up... but I won't go to the lengths of saying it was fake. Half the shit I posted I found on some crazy conspiracy theory website. You guys are just way to easy, so I HAD to. The first post was going to be a little serious... like I said, somethings don't add up, but then decided to fuck it. Go big or go home?

I figured the Rob Anders comment would of tipped you off. 95 seemed to of got the idea.

I've been to an exploratory where they shot a laser at the moon and saw it's reflection. I'm a firm believer.

Sorry for the troll, if you want to call it that.

[Zephyr]

Originally posted by Spoons
Still don't believe it was real. We still manage to blow up rockets, have numerous amounts of problems and issues, but in 1969 we managed to get onto the moon? Not to mention the deadly belts of radiation.

There were 6 moon landings, and only one isn't successful? Yet manage to blow up rockets and have numerous amounts of issues now.

Sorry just really don't buy it. Why have we never gone back? There's definitely benifits and resources to use there.

And don't bring "well Mythbusters proved it" to the table. It was just a publicity stunt on the fight against Russia, but they are so caught up in the lie you just can't admit it now. I could be wrong and maybe just misheard a rumour, but wasn't one of the Apollo astronauts arrested for a fake Viagra ring? Sounds real scientist like to me.

http://www.thequickhour.com/word/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/its_a_conspiracy1.jpg :facepalm:


but anyways, cool footage!

[Pollywog]

Originally posted by Spoons
Still don't believe it was real.
Originally posted by Spoons
Sorry just really don't buy it. Why have we never gone back? There's definitely benifits and resources to use there.


-> Substantial argument and evidence provided by fellow beyond members <-


Originally posted by Spoons
[...]I won't go to the lengths of saying it was fake.
Originally posted by Spoons
I've been to an exploratory where they shot a laser at the moon and saw it's reflection. I'm a firm believer.


Make up your mind. Was it "half-fake" or something?
:rolleyes:

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by Spoons

There were 6 moon landings, and only one isn't successful? Yet manage to blow up rockets and have numerous amounts of issues now.




"Made in America", when the term actually meant something good. Now it's all Chinese junk electronics, and other lowest bidder items. I can't even say that, even foreign products had better quality back then.

My grandma's 24" television circa 1960's still works fine and dandy, but a tube TV I bought in 2000, lasted 3 years.

My families first VCR, made in 1982, worked fine until I through it out 2 years ago. The VCR/DVD combo player I bought in 2007 lasted 13 months, and I only used it once.

There's something to be said about the hardy electronics from back then. They were built solid. These days, just sneezing on something breaks it.

[msommers]

I smell backpedaling. I think you know who you are!

[dr_dreidel]

lol at the idea of US vs USSR
both countries are controlled by the same zionist overlords

[Pollywog]

Originally posted by dr_dreidel
lol at the idea of US vs USSR
both countries are controlled by the same zionist overlords

http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae20/Apple_Head_XD/michaeljacksoneatspopcorn.gif

[scat19]

I also have a hard time believing that the landing was real.

There is so much evidence against it. Like stamped prop numbers on props in the photo's!

But, just like you people who don't think out of the box also believe that two towers imploded due to a plane that hit the top.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm

[TomK]

Originally posted by GoChris
It does seem odd, that not too long ago when they were talking about going back, how it would cost hundreds of millions, if not a billion or more dollars to send someone back to the moon. Makes it seem like it is so much harder to do it now than 40 years ago.

40 years ago health care was easily affordable to most US citizens and 10 years ago business men took transatlantic flights on supersonic jets.

Civilizations go into decline sometimes.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by scat19
I also have a hard time believing that the landing was real.



That doesn't really surprise me.

[TKRIS]

:rofl:

[Spoons]

Originally posted by msommers
I smell backpedaling. I think you know who you are!

Nah, just people who only read half my posts. Nice try though.

Pollywog clearly didn't read a bit of the last post. I was stirring the pot... You guys quickly jump on something and go to town on it, so I took advantage of that.

[Pollywog]

Bullshit.

[Spoons]

Originally posted by Pollywog
Bullshit.

Ooooooh you got me! :rolleyes:

[Pollywog]

Oh, couldn't you tell? That was also sarcasm.

:facepalm::rofl:

[01RedDX]

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[44mot]

Originally posted by Spoons
Again, we can't even manage to successfully launch rockets to this day everytime. Our best insulation at the time was ethspestis (spelling?).

Like I said I don't completely believe it was fake, and yes there is evidence that it was (and I'm not talking about the photograph bullshit, etc.). Some things just don't add up, so if I was to be logical, I can not rule out that it wasn't fake. Yes it would be a huge conspiracy to cover up, but completely possible to do so. CUG here; you sound like a fool.



You must just be trolling. Good work lol.

[Spoons]

Originally posted by Pollywog
Oh, couldn't you tell? That was also sarcasm.

:facepalm::rofl:

But you didn't use the rolly eyes smiley how was I supposed to know? :rofl:

And thanks CUG :rofl:

[broken_legs]

Originally posted by scat19
I also have a hard time believing that the landing was real.

There is so much evidence against it. Like stamped prop numbers on props in the photo's!

But, just like you people who don't think out of the box also believe that two towers imploded due to a plane that hit the top.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm


Here's some of that "Evidence" from your link:



1. Apollo 14 astronaut Allen Shepard played golf on the Moon. In front of a worldwide TV audience, Mission Control teased him about slicing the ball to the right. Yet a slice is caused by uneven air flow over the ball. The Moon has no atmosphere and no air.
Anyone who golfs knows this is caused by hitting with an open or closed face

2. A camera panned upwards to catch Apollo 16's Lunar Landerlifting off the Moon. Who did the filming?
Aliens you fuck tard!!!


3. One NASA picture from Apollo 11 is looking up at Neil Armstrong about to take his giant step for mankind. The photographer must have been lying on the planet surface. If Armstrong was the first man on the Moon, then who took the shot?
The whole conspiracy theory hinges on whether or not they had the technology to put a camera on the moon... wow

4. The pressure inside a space suit was greater than inside a football. The astronauts should have been puffed out like the Michelin Man, but were seen freely bending their joints.
Really now... Amazing that people can scuba dive. How come they don't puff up?

5. The Moon landings took place during the Cold War. Why didn't America make a signal on the moon that could be seen from earth? The PR would have been phenomenal and it could have been easily done with magnesium flares.
Best evidence yet.

6. Text from pictures in the article said that only two men walked on the Moon during the Apollo 12 mission. Yet the astronaut reflected in the visor has no camera. Who took the shot?
WTF? The astronaut in the reflection is holding something at his waist (THE CAMERA). Do you think he can hold it up to his eye like a normal camera???

7. The flags shadow goes behind the rock so doesn't match the dark line in the foreground, which looks like a line cord. So the shadow to the lower right of the spaceman must be the flag. Where is his shadow? And why is the flag fluttering if there is no air or wind on the moon?
huh?

8. How can the flag be brightly lit when its side is to the light? And where, in all of these shots, are the stars?
Jesus Fuck. On a full moon I can see perfectly fine outside ON EARTH!!!!!!!!! Gee you don't think that some of the light reflecting off THE WHITE MOON would light up that flag do you??

9. The Lander weighed 17 tons yet the astronauts feet seem to have made a bigger dent in the dust. The powerful booster rocket at the base of the Lunar Lander was fired to slow descent to the moons service. Yet it has left no traces of blasting on the dust underneath. It should have created a small crater, yet the booster looks like it's never been fired.
Should have? How much force do you think a jet thruster needs to slow down a slow moving object in 1/6 gravity? How do you know what the ground is made of? Should have? Were you on the set... i mean moon to check? fuck!


Scathing.

Case closed. It was obviously faked. All that evidence is bullet proof.

:facepalm:

Seriously, use some common sense. All this moon landing fake evidence is complete bullshit. Critical Thinking FTW.

[derpderp]

lol@this thread.

[atgilchrist]

Back to OP, cool video, great find!

[Eleanor]

Originally posted by Spoons
Still don't believe it was real. We still manage to blow up rockets, have numerous amounts of problems and issues, but in 1969 we managed to get onto the moon? :werd:

People living in this city still stop in merge lanes and now you're telling me that we can fly?

Bullshit.

[rob the knob]

scat19 banned?:dunno:

[Khyron]

Space shuttles were a bad idea and ate 20+ years of time.

Now that they're being retired, we're going back. Theory being the moon will be a refuel stop for any Mars flights.

Strapping shit to the side of a rocket should never have been done.

New launches will be just like the old ones with big ass rockets with modules on top (where it's safer). Equipment will go up on 1 rocket, people on another, meet up in orbit, off to the moon.

I suppose you anti-moon people don't believe any of the Mars probe data either? It's all faked? By a country that couldn't keep a cigar in an intern secret?

[kevie88]

Originally posted by Khyron
Space shuttles were a bad idea and ate 20+ years of time.

Now that they're being retired, we're going back. Theory being the moon will be a refuel stop for any Mars flights.

Strapping shit to the side of a rocket should never have been done.

New launches will be just like the old ones with big ass rockets with modules on top (where it's safer). Equipment will go up on 1 rocket, people on another, meet up in orbit, off to the moon.

I suppose you anti-moon people don't believe any of the Mars probe data either? It's all faked? By a country that couldn't keep a cigar in an intern secret?

Too bad Obama killed the upcoming Moon project :cry:

They're going to focus now on long range missions. Planned next step is to land on an asteroid (??) then go on to Mars, using the International Playstation as a rendezvous point.

[kevie88]

ok I was looking at space.com and this popped up. Maybe it might be worth checking out asteroids after all?

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/water-ice-on-asteroid-100428.html

[Spoons]

Originally posted by kevie88
...International Playstation...

WAIT!

There's a fucking gigantic PS3 in space and no one told me about it!?

[kevie88]

Lol

[911fever]

Is Scat19 banned !?!?!?!?!??!
WOW AWESOME if true!

[Spoons]

Originally posted by 911fever
Is Scat19 banned !?!?!?!?!??!
WOW AWESOME if true!

Yep I guess it's only a matter of time for myself.

[slinkie]

moon landing real or fake...doesn't affect me at all :whocares: