'06 E60bmw M5

[LEGiiT]

Alright, I'm not sure how many of you have driven one, or own one. I am thinking of getting an E60 BMW M5, just trade in my current car for a lightly used one. I've watched about every YT vid there is, and I just can't get convinced enough to get one.

What do you guys think about this car? Pros/Cons etc. Is there any problems with the 2006 MY compared to 2007+? (considering '06 was it's first year)

[buh_buh]

www.m5board.com

[you&me]

No problems specific to the early (06) cars that I'm aware of.

Eats oil.

Eats rear tires.

SMG isn't as bad as everyone says, especially in manual mode with shift speed set to fastest.

Very competent car year-round, just get winters.

HUD is a must-have option. Once you get used to having it, you'll miss it on any car without it.

I never had a problem, but I don't think I'd want one out of warranty.

Fairly inconspicuous, which can be a pro or con, depending on what you're after.

It's an absolute BEAST.

[LEGiiT]

Originally posted by you&me
No problems specific to the early (06) cars that I'm aware of.

Eats oil.

Eats rear tires.

SMG isn't as bad as everyone says, especially in manual mode with shift speed set to fastest.

Very competent car year-round, just get winters.

HUD is a must-have option. Once you get used to having it, you'll miss it on any car without it.

I never had a problem, but I don't think I'd want one out of warranty.

Fairly inconspicuous, which can be a pro or con, depending on what you're after.

It's an absolute BEAST.

Great to know it's good in the winter, that was one thing I was afraid it it being incapable of considering it's 400-500hp on two wheels, though it is a heavier sedan.

How often does it need an oil change?

I'm fine with the tires balding quickly, no problem for me. What is BMW's service like?

Fortunately this one I found has warranty until 2013 :)

[barmanjay]

Very quick car!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKOBveCUTK8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ln_EpqSEn4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0Bf6FEdYUo&feature=related

[rx7girlie]

Beast of a car. Lot's of power, uses tones of fuel. Hate the transmission, but it feels like a 4 door super car.

[TorqueDog]

I love 'em. I just wish the E60's headlamps didn't remind me of Dame Edna's spectacles.

http://kenstein64.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/dame-edna.jpghttp://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn29/Deep_Gloss_Auto_Salon/E60%20M5%20Interlagos%20Blue%20May%202009/3BeforeFront.jpg

[Idratherbsidewayz]

Theres a nice blue one going for $60kish at Kulu Motorcar! Such an amazing car.

[911fever]

They go through tires insanely fast.
Drink oil like an H22 Prelude - a lot of synthetic oil normally.
Super expensive to maintain and lots of issues with Vanos (normally) and SMG can have clutch issues. Manual transmission is more reliable.
Bluetooth is common to fail.
Plenty of sensors can go quirky and fail, SAS issues are common.
Some even have tranny failures! If it has a good amount of km/mileage it likely has a fine tranny.

I had one for a week last summer as a demo, unreal fast car, SUCH a beast, roasts 90% of the cars on the road. CEL came on twice, but went away once.
Read this for more info:
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60-m5-e61-m5-touring-discussion/82451-e60-m5-reliability-safety-concerns.html

[core_upt]

Originally posted by Idratherbsidewayz
Theres a nice blue one going for $60kish at Kulu Motorcar! Such an amazing car.

It's hella nice!
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
http://www.kulumotorcar.com/imagefile/bmw2006m5HREblueblk1.jpg

[TorqueDog]

I do love that colour, but I'm a bit biased. :D

[R-Audi]

Originally posted by Idratherbsidewayz
Theres a nice blue one going for $60kish at Kulu Motorcar! Such an amazing car.

I'm guessing thats the one as it has the extended warranty till 2013. If you have any questions let me know, its my Fathers car....

Not sure if you have talked to Kulu about it, but it has ~20k in extras included!!
-20" HRE's (brand spankin new rubber)
-Eisenmann Exhaust
-H&R Springs
-Black kidney grills

[you&me]

Originally posted by LEGiiT


Great to know it's good in the winter, that was one thing I was afraid it it being incapable of considering it's 400-500hp on two wheels, though it is a heavier sedan.

How often does it need an oil change?

I'm fine with the tires balding quickly, no problem for me. What is BMW's service like?

Fortunately this one I found has warranty until 2013 :)

It's not the frequency of the oil changes (20,000km), it's the appetite for oil that requires topping up.

I've never had a problem with BMW service (though many others have... that's another topic). As far as costs, my car was covered by a BMW service plan... I didn't spend a dime on the car...

[Weapon_R]

Brother in law has one. Very fast for a car of that size. Lots of nice features but they are unreliable. So far, he's had to replace the SMG transmission (warranty), the idrive system, and a few other things I can't remember. Fixing them is astronomically expensive. The navigation unit alone lists for $1600 from BMW.

[LEGiiT]

Originally posted by R-Audi


I'm guessing thats the one as it has the extended warranty till 2013. If you have any questions let me know, its my Fathers car....

Not sure if you have talked to Kulu about it, but it has ~20k in extras included!!
-20" HRE's (brand spankin new rubber)
-Eisenmann Exhaust
-H&R Springs
-Black kidney grills

That's the one I was looking at! Haha, great conincedence. I'm going to see the car likely Wednesday, it's a great deal for the amount of KM and mods.

[KandabashiDevil]

The one for sale at Kulu sounds amazing! Like Satan yelling at his wife

[adamc]

I'd look at a newer one with a manual transmission, from the states, but yeah, what everyone else said. Buy one, you'll love it.

[HondaKid]

I don't think I'd want one out of warranty, or keep $8,000 sitting in the BringMyWallet Fund. I think we all agree a wonderful car, one we all would want but really would not want to wake up with in the morning. As a previous owner of a BMW, I could never find a BMW dealership mechanic who actually owned a BMW... they all owned Japanese cars or a NA truck.

[JfuckinC]

Originally posted by LEGiiT


That's the one I was looking at! Haha, great conincedence. I'm going to see the car likely Wednesday, it's a great deal for the amount of KM and mods.

I can vouch for the blue one, r-audi's father takes care of his toys from what i've seen!

[T-Dubbs]

Originally posted by JfuckinC


I can vouch for the blue one, r-audi's father takes care of his toys from what i've seen!
+2
turn on the car and listen.... nuff said

that is the nicest sounding exhausts that i have EVER heard.

[LEGiiT]

Originally posted by T-Dubbs

+2
turn on the car and listen.... nuff said

that is the nicest sounding exhausts that i have EVER heard.

Yea, I watched some YT vids, I can't WAIT to test drive the thing tomorrow!

[T-Dubbs]

Originally posted by LEGiiT


Yea, I watched some YT vids, I can't WAIT to test drive the thing tomorrow!
you will NOT be dissapointed :drool:

[Hakkola]

Originally posted by LEGiiT

What is BMW's service like?



Not good, you can find a whole lot of bad comments if you do a search, I wish I could bring the Bimmer to Hyatt Mercedes.

[max_boost]

Originally posted by Weapon_R
Brother in law has one. Very fast for a car of that size. Lots of nice features but they are unreliable. So far, he's had to replace the SMG transmission (warranty), the idrive system, and a few other things I can't remember. Fixing them is astronomically expensive. The navigation unit alone lists for $1600 from BMW. Probably any Euro car has the potential to be astronomically expensive to fix. So many technological gadgets in these cars, paying $125 flat rate/hour just scares the crap out of me post warranty.

[911fever]

Originally posted by max_boost
Probably any Euro car has the potential to be astronomically expensive to fix. So many technological gadgets in these cars, paying $125 flat rate/hour just scares the crap out of me post warranty.

that's why there's good quality smaller European shops that will fix it for a reasonable $70-88 an hour. None of the BMW mechanic hacks.

[LEGiiT]

I'm not worried about after-warranty experiences yet, knowing my self I'll probably not keep this much past my warranty expiry (early 2013, the world might end before that, who gives :P )

[911fever]

buy one from the US bud, lower miles, never winter driven (if from southern US) and wayyyyy cheaper!

[adamc]

^^ what he said

[wes_v]

It's a nice car I have driven one. But are you trading in your range rover sport s/c thats in your profile/sig??

[you&me]

Not all cars are "wayyyyy" cheaper in the US. Keep in mind that the 07+ M5s will likely need the $4K green levy to be paid, which eliminates a lot of the price advantage.

Pedigree can be worth paying more for.

[LEGiiT]

Originally posted by wes_v
It's a nice car I have driven one. But are you trading in your range rover sport s/c thats in your profile/sig??

Yes, I am planning to trade in the Rover for the ///M5. If the M5 deal falls through, I will go for an M3 (2009 hopefully.)

The rover in my sig is practically new (bought it new), 2009MY with 32k mileage. It's pimpin' in white and a great, I'm just looking for something sportier and faster :) talked to my insurance broker, an M5 is only 6% more than what I'm already paying for the Land Rover.

[wes_v]

go for the m3. I myself cannot justify trading in a 09 for an 06. But if I was in your position I would go for the m3. Hope this helps.

[911fever]

Originally posted by you&me
Not all cars are "wayyyyy" cheaper in the US. Keep in mind that the 07+ M5s will likely need the $4K green levy to be paid, which eliminates a lot of the price advantage.

Pedigree can be worth paying more for.

Still with that $4k "levy", a US M5 will be $10k minimum to $20k cheaper US than Canadian M5's after importation!

[LEGiiT]

Originally posted by wes_v
go for the m3. I myself cannot justify trading in a 09 for an 06. But if I was in your position I would go for the m3. Hope this helps.

You do have a point. Now that I come to think of it, you do have a great point, and there is a 2009 BMW M3 with 18,000km in the same color as this Kulu M5. I'll take less of a hit insurance wise for a 2dr, gas sipping (compared to m5) m3 with a lil' less HP, yet same if not better performance. Can't believe I didn't think this through before.

[wes_v]

Originally posted by LEGiiT


You do have a point. Now that I come to think of it, you do have a great point, and there is a 2009 BMW M3 with 18,000km in the same color as this Kulu M5. I'll take less of a hit insurance wise for a 2dr, gas sipping (compared to m5) m3 with a lil' less HP, yet same if not better performance. Can't believe I didn't think this through before.
EXACTLY! I was just about to mention all of those things.

[911fever]

Originally posted by LEGiiT


You do have a point. Now that I come to think of it, you do have a great point, and there is a 2009 BMW M3 with 18,000km in the same color as this Kulu M5. I'll take less of a hit insurance wise for a 2dr, gas sipping (compared to m5) m3 with a lil' less HP, yet same if not better performance. Can't believe I didn't think this through before.

Plus WAY more reliable!

[dirtsniffer]

a friend of mine is selling his mint 2004 996 turbo. Only 24k km with 997 turbo wheels and new rubber. Should be right in your price range. pm me for pics or if you have any questions

[R-Audi]

Originally posted by LEGiiT


You do have a point. Now that I come to think of it, you do have a great point, and there is a 2009 BMW M3 with 18,000km in the same color as this Kulu M5. I'll take less of a hit insurance wise for a 2dr, gas sipping (compared to m5) m3 with a lil' less HP, yet same if not better performance. Can't believe I didn't think this through before.

Although looking at mileage.. the 2006 has double the km, and 3 years older. Car was driven for 1/2 winter, and parked the other two, plus has ~20k in aftermarket parts. I wouldnt think that Performance isnt even close between the two cars...

This car has pulled on an M6 and another M5 with the exact same mods... its a quick one!

[scat23]

Originally posted by Idratherbsidewayz
Theres a nice blue one going for $60kish at Kulu Motorcar! Such an amazing car.

Weren't you the one standing in front of two BMW's at the last meet and said "BMW's are pieces of shit"

Then you climbed in your old POS subaru with a transmission about to blow.

:rolleyes:

[Idratherbsidewayz]

Originally posted by scat23


Weren't you the one standing in front of two BMW's at the last meet and said "BMW's are pieces of shit"

Then you climbed in your old POS subaru with a transmission about to blow.

:rolleyes:

I was hanging out with my friends (one of which has that very droolworthy widebody M3) being facetious. Having no friends, you are clearly oblivious to normal social interactions.

Yea I don't know whats up with my transmission. Its been whining since I bought it but somehow still hasn't grenaded. Maybe you can enlighten me as to why it only makes this whining noise in the first two gears???

;)

[T-Dubbs]

Originally posted by scat23


Weren't you the one standing in front of two BMW's at the last meet and said "BMW's are pieces of shit"


:rolleyes:
he was referring to the slow 330, with the douchebag driving it, not the traffic stopping widebody

[scat23]

Originally posted by Idratherbsidewayz


I was hanging out with my friends (one of which has that very droolworthy widebody M3) being facetious. Having no friends, you are clearly oblivious to normal social interactions.

Yea I don't know whats up with my transmission. Its been whining since I bought it but somehow still hasn't grenaded. Maybe you can enlighten me as to why it only makes this whining noise in the first two gears???

;)

You also thought the cage was put through the trunk. :facepalm:

No, you were being serious, stop back peddling. When I asked, you specifically mentioned the headlight of the white 328 being fogged up.

^Dubbs, the dans M3 was across the parking lot, and he was standing in front of the only other 2 bmws there. :rolleyes:

edit - "no friends"?? What are you? 12?

[Idratherbsidewayz]

Originally posted by scat23


You also thought the cage was put through the trunk. :facepalm:

No, you were being serious, stop back peddling. When I asked, you specifically mentioned the headlight of the white 328 being fogged up.

^Dubbs, the dans M3 was across the parking lot, and he was standing in front of the only other 2 bmws there. :rolleyes:

edit - "no friends"?? What are you? 12?

Didn't really give it too much thought before I asked Dan. On my old 240, those kinds of cages were put through the trunk.

Yea that was the joke. A brand new sick looking BMW with a fogged up headlight. I ignored how sweet the BMW was and focused on the headlight, then lumped all BMW build quality in with it. See how ridiculous that is? It's called a joke, take one!

And yea, no friends. You came with nobody and tried unsuccessfully to make friends with everyone. Apparently nobody likes douchebags!

[5hift]

Originally posted by Idratherbsidewayz


You came with nobody and tried unsuccessfully to make friends with everyone. Apparently nobody likes douchebags!

haha what a surprise

too bad douche got banned again

[Clever]

And then he was banned.... so much for Scat23.

[GQBalla]

Originally posted by Clever
And then he was banned.... so much for Scat23.

Scat23-b?

[911fever]

is he banned for real? Why does scat even post? No one likes him and he's a huge douche

[T-Dubbs]

Originally posted by 911fever
is he banned for real? Why does scat even post? No one likes him and he's a huge douche
haha you shoulda met him at that last cruise at the casino parking lot....LOL-worthy for sure

[911fever]

Originally posted by T-Dubbs

haha you shoulda met him at that last cruise at the casino parking lot....LOL-worthy for sure

is he a bigger douche in person?? I would think so

[psycoticclown]

Haha, new account and banned in a couple days hahahaha. How did it take so long for his first account to be banned lol.

[Disoblige]

lol I just realized something. Scat is 23 years old. It all makes sense now.

[Redlyne_mr2]

He's no allows back until he's at least scat27

[TorqueDog]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
He's no allows back until he's at least scat27 What if he still acts like he's scat12?