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C_Dave45
05-08-2010, 07:14 AM
*edit* Oops...sorry. I guess its listing at $1.3. I just finished 3 houses for them...this wasn't the 975k house. (Mods can you edit the title please?)

This is a house I just finished doing the tile work in. Nice place. I love the appliances they picked for it. Its in Aspen Woods. Here's the Location (http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=51.038601,-114.201341&spn=0,0.003959&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=51.038509,-114.202318&panoid=eToMc2IFTXOS9zjCxlN4Yg&cbp=12,116.49,,1,1.34)

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Cos
05-08-2010, 07:25 AM
nice, I love the tile above the hood fan and the crazy dishwasher.

Too bad the kitchen isnt a little bigger though (it seems small, maybe it isnt).

Darell_n
05-08-2010, 07:28 AM
Beautiful home. Fireplace at waist height is a little odd.

C_Dave45
05-08-2010, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Cos
nice, I love the tile above the hood fan and the crazy dishwasher.

Too bad the kitchen isnt a little bigger though (it seems small, maybe it isnt).
That dishwasher is amazing. Two drawers and they're DEEP!!
The pics don't do it justice. Its actually huge.



Originally posted by Darell_n
Beautiful home. Fireplace at waist height is a little odd.
Because its meant to enjoy when in the tub or in bed, its raised (being double sided)

RickDaTuner
05-08-2010, 07:41 AM
I think the selling point for me would be the Wok attachment to the stove. not that I am Asian, but that is just a cool feature to have.

FiveFreshFish
05-08-2010, 11:33 AM
What type of roofing shingles?

adidas
05-08-2010, 11:57 AM
That 2 sided fireplace is odd to me as well. Looks very ugly and considering the size of the house, the master is quite small.

I wonder how often they will cook in that kitchen. lol

mwmhong
05-08-2010, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by C_Dave45


Originally posted by Darell_n
Beautiful home. Fireplace at waist height is a little odd.

Because its meant to enjoy when in the tub or in bed, its raised (being double sided)

You forgot option #3: while taking a dump :bigpimp:

Alignment is perfect :thumbsup:

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project240
05-08-2010, 02:57 PM
Dave,

You really do some incredible work. Are you hiring any apprentices? lol. I do a few small tile jobs here and there, but every time I see you're work I'm always extremely impressed.

Backsplash and hood fan look great... (as does everything else) I really like the living room fireplace as well...

dsr7723
05-08-2010, 03:17 PM
Beautiful home! Always makes me wonder if I'm ever gonna figure out how to make it happen, and how much harder I have to work to even get a mortgage... Nice work dude for real!

C_Dave45
05-08-2010, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by project240
Dave,

You really do some incredible work. Are you hiring any apprentices? lol. I do a few small tile jobs here and there, but every time I see you're work I'm always extremely impressed.
Hahaha...thanks man. That comes from 28 years of learning from my own screw-ups.
Nah...unfortunately I have one apprentice plus a helper already. I'm in need of a good journeyman. But I'm sure you'd be a hell of a lot better than the other two "beyonders" I hired. :facepalm:


I've seen your woodwork and that impresses me!

shakalaka
05-08-2010, 04:50 PM
Nice house, fairly close to where I live. You deff. do some good work man.

TomcoPDR
05-08-2010, 10:55 PM
That's probably what you're building for YOURSELF Dave. :poosie:

Supa Dexta
05-08-2010, 11:19 PM
Thats a lot of carpet.

VWEvo
05-08-2010, 11:20 PM
Nice house, great tile work !!!! But shitty shower glass for such a nice house. Why didn't they do 10mm glass??? This is the reason my wife and I are building our next home. We see such quirky stuff like this. Beautiful home otherwise.

JordanLotoski
05-08-2010, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by VWEvo
Nice house, great tile work !!!! But shitty shower glass for such a nice house. Why didn't they do 10mm glass??? This is the reason my wife and I are building our next home. We see such quirky stuff like this. Beautiful home otherwise.

Aggreed, and why no water closet...so my wifes putting on her make up in the morning and im using the toilet right beside her? even a 2000 sq foot 470,000 cardel home has a water closet in the ensuite

And for 1.3 million I dont know if id want to stair at 17th av when iam out on my deck. Just my opinion

What did you exactly do in the house, or are you the designer/builder?

None the less good looking home, love the dark stucco and the black clad windows also love the solid MDF mission style doors (i have the same ones, they are awesome, good choice.)

Zewind
05-08-2010, 11:46 PM
Someone needs to get inside of the house being build here. Location (http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=51.038601,-114.201341&spn=0,0.003959&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=51.038509,-114.202318&panoid=eToMc2IFTXOS9zjCxlN4Yg&cbp=12,116.49,,1,1.34)



Its pretty much all done drove by the other night.

VWEvo
05-08-2010, 11:52 PM
Originally posted by JordanLotoski


Aggreed, and why no water closet...so my wifes putting on her make up in the morning and im using the toilet right beside her? even a 2000 sq foot 470,000 cardel home has a water closet in the ensuite

What did you exactly do in the house, or are you the designer/builder?

Just noticed that!!! Man, these houses are obviously designed to make maximum profit. There was a time when Elegant Homes only made premium homes, but the more I look at his house, it gets more interesting. On a good note, the tile work looks fantastic!!!

JordanLotoski
05-09-2010, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by VWEvo


Just noticed that!!! Man, these houses are obviously designed to make maximum profit. There was a time when Elegant Homes only made premium homes, but the more I look at his house, it gets more interesting. On a good note, the tile work looks fantastic!!!

Also, take a look at the bath tub they used in the main bathroom, the bathroom sinks and faucets.....and the tile looks to be builders standard 12x12 tile on the floors (was layed well fom the looks of it)

also mid range appliances (electrolux)

Aspen is sooo pricey. i went a week or so ago to look at homes priced from 1.8-2.4 million. wasnt that impressed, for that kind of money i expected a litle more.

atgilchrist
05-09-2010, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by JordanLotoski


Aspen is sooo pricey. i went a week or so ago to look at homes priced from 1.8-2.4 million. wasnt that impressed, for that kind of money i expected a litle more.

Agreed, nice house, but for multi-million(s), it's definitely nothing spectacular.

But, most importantly, nice tile job, Dave!

VaN_HaMMeRSTeiN
05-09-2010, 06:23 AM
I think that I would like to live in that house during a zombie apocolypse. It would be good for a battle against the undead.
Just sayin..

C_Dave45
05-09-2010, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by JordanLotoski


Aggreed, and why no water closet...so my wifes putting on her make up in the morning and im using the toilet right beside her? even a 2000 sq foot 470,000 cardel home has a water closet in the ensuite

And for 1.3 million I dont know if id want to stair at 17th av when iam out on my deck. Just my opinion

What did you exactly do in the house, or are you the designer/builder?

None the less good looking home, love the dark stucco and the black clad windows also love the solid MDF mission style doors (i have the same ones, they are awesome, good choice.)

There is a water closet. I just didnt take a picture of it. Complete with solid-core, trip-hinged door. Im standing in it when I took the picture of the soaker tub. But yes, totally in agreement with not going to 10mil frame less glass. Very shocked at that.
I'm just the tile contractor, Jordon.

Originally posted by C_Dave45

This is a house I just finished doing the tile work in. And again, I'm also not impressed that they went with standard 13x13 porcelain. But I find that Calgary is like that. 1 and 2 million dollar homes, and their budget is under 15 k for tile. When I worked in Vancouver, a home in the Caulfield Drive (North Shore) area would go for a couple mil...we would spend two months inside doing tile. It would be worth anywhere from 40-50K. All travertine, granite and marble. Calgary just seems to want to make a house look all shiny and new...but not any real "substance". The appliances were about 30K for that place.

Aspen is ridiculously priced. It's not the houses, but the land and the name. If I was gonna spend 1.3 mil, it sure as hell wouldn't be inside city limits.

C_Dave45
05-09-2010, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by VWEvo


Just noticed that!!! Man, these houses are obviously designed to make maximum profit.
Uhhh....isn't that the whole point from every build? If you don't, you will soon be out of business. All houses are like this, no matter what the price point is. Bottom line is, no matter what you (I mean any of us) think should be more into any house...they're all selling like hotcakes. Supply and demand. People still pay 1.3 mil to stare at 17th Ave and have neighbours 5 feet beside them.
:dunno:



Originally posted by VWEvo

There was a time when Elegant Homes only made premium homes, but the more I look at his house, it gets more interesting.

They still do...but with the recent recession they just did a few specs to fill in in the meantime. The next one I'm doing for them is a 10,000 sq ft home with all 18x18 travertine marble everywhere.

VWEvo
05-09-2010, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by C_Dave45

Uhhh....isn't that the whole point from every build? If you don't, you will soon be out of business. All houses are like this, no matter what the price point is. Bottom line is, no matter what you (I mean any of us) think should be more into any house...they're all selling like hotcakes. Supply and demand. People still pay 1.3 mil to stare at 17th Ave and have neighbours 5 feet beside them.
:dunno:




They still do...but with the recent recession they just did a few specs to fill in in the meantime. The next one I'm doing for them is a 10,000 sq ft home with all 18x18 travertine marble everywhere.

Of course the builder is suppose to make profit, the point I'm saying is that there are builders that have high standards and would never use such low grade/middle grade materials in homes they build. I remember 10 years ago every Elegant home was off the hook. I would never expect them to build a house that looks like it was built by Shane Homes.

I agree with the fact that so many of these "million dollar" homes have hardly any craftmanship in them. I was looking to build in Aspen for years, I finally couldn't get over the lack of value in the area. I bought a lot in springbank (8 mins away), and I get to choose whatever builder I want. The builders we've interviewed have high standards and don't even have houses that have crappy finishes in them. If that house was selling for $750 000, I would tell you that its fantastic and it looks like a great home for $750 000. The fact that its $1.3 million is ridiculous. But like you said, you can't fault the builder if these houses are selling like hotcakes, then all the power to them.

Oh, BTW, you said your standing in the water closet, but in that picture you can clearly see the toilet beside the tub. Your saying they have two toilets in the master bath???

Travertine FTW!!!

C_Dave45
05-09-2010, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by VWEvo


Of course the builder is suppose to make profit, the point I'm saying is that there are builders that have high standards and would never use such low grade/middle grade materials in homes they build. I remember 10 years ago every Elegant home was off the hook. I would never expect them to build a house that looks like it was built by Shane Homes.

I agree with the fact that so many of these "million dollar" homes have hardly any craftmanship in them. I was looking to build in Aspen for years, I finally couldn't get over the lack of value in the area. I bought a lot in springbank (8 mins away), and I get to choose whatever builder I want. The builders we've interviewed have high standards and don't even have houses that have crappy finishes in them. If that house was selling for $750 000, I would tell you that its fantastic and it looks like a great home for $750 000. The fact that its $1.3 million is ridiculous. But like you said, you can't fault the builder if these houses are selling like hotcakes, then all the power to them.

Oh, BTW, you said your standing in the water closet, but in that picture you can clearly see the toilet beside the tub. Your saying they have two toilets in the master bath???

Travertine FTW!!!

Springbank..yes, good choice. All builders are forced to sell at the price point of the competition. Unfortunately. To sell that home for 750...obviously won't make any money based on the lot price. To list it at 1.8 mil..no one will buy it. So its current list of 1.3 for what was put into that house is the same with all the others in that particular area. To really be able to compare what you're getting you have to compare the builders $/sq ft price. Off the top of my head I think that house was about $300/sq ft. Lot price was around 500K (corner, pie, walkout)

Hahaha...you're right too. Just looked at the pic myself. Jesus, I'm doing so many houses right now I forget what I've done and where they are. Thats right, it was the other house that had the WC. I'm not a big fan of this layout. Jordan's right...wife putting on makeup and you're taking a dump beside her, LOL.
Whats worse...they actually changed the layout. At first there wasn't even a door into the Ensuite...just an archway, so that as soon as you came up those spiral stairs...you could see right to the shitter!! LOL..so they put a door on it.

Lets put it this way...almost every single house I work in; even if it was given to me, first thing I'd do is sell it and move out of the city. I think every house built in Calgary is a rip off.

You should see the Showhome I'm doing in Turner Valley right now. $650k and it is THE UGLIEST layout and colors I've ever seen. I'll try to take pictures when we're done..wait'll you see it.
:rofl:

Chandler_Racing
05-09-2010, 10:23 AM
Tile work does looks great, but the house is less than impressive for the asking price.

In the kitchen, the tile was extended to the end of the counter tops, but the actual cabinet was not. Looks kind of cheap for a house in this range.

Also, the tile and tub in the bathroom is the exact same as the one we put into my house, except my house is sub $500k.

HondaKid
05-09-2010, 10:38 AM
Hahaha...thanks man. That comes from 28 years of learning from my own screw-ups.
Nah...unfortunately I have one apprentice plus a helper already. I'm in need of a good journeyman. But I'm sure you'd be a hell of a lot better than the other two "beyonders" I hired. :facepalm:


I've seen your woodwork and that impresses me! [/B][/QUOTE]

Now there is a reality show, "Two Beyonders Lay It Down". I have the camera and can shoot the scenes, just need to find the two members.

HondaKid
05-09-2010, 10:39 AM
Originally posted by Chandler_Racing
Tile work does looks great, but the house is less than impressive for the asking price.

In the kitchen, the tile was extended to the end of the counter tops, but the actual cabinet was not. Looks kind of cheap for a house in this range.

Also, the tile and tub in the bathroom is the exact same as the one we put into my house, except my house is sub $500k.

My thoughts too.

C_Dave45
05-09-2010, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Chandler_Racing
Tile work does looks great, but the house is less than impressive for the asking price.

In the kitchen, the tile was extended to the end of the counter tops, but the actual cabinet was not. Looks kind of cheap for a house in this range.

Also, the tile and tub in the bathroom is the exact same as the one we put into my house, except my house is sub $500k.

Agreed. I'm curious though. What DO you guys expect for 1.3 mil? How many of you actually walk inside houses that are 1.3? Jordon does, I know. But a "million dollar" home isn't what people think it is. I'm in them all the time. By all kinds of builders. There's no one builder who "outsells" or "outcheaps" them all. You can blindfold me and put me in any house and I'll have no idea who the builder is. They all do pretty much the same work. The biggest difference is location. Thats what determines the price point.

If a builder is charging too much for what he gives...he won't sell anything, as customers will go to the next one.
If a builder is giving away too much, he won't be in business long.

If this builder, for this house in this neighbourhood, was to put all "5 Star" appliances as opposed to Electrolux...Travertine marble instead of porcelain...stone instead of stucco...Solid wood cabinetry as opposed to particle board ...then it would be listed at a lot more and wouldn't sell, based on surrounding houses. Builders have to be extremely shrewd in their pricing. Sitting back and looking at pictures and saying "oh he should've given a lot more for that price" is absurd.
I'm not defending the builders, btw. To me they're all shysters and they're all making way more than you and I will ever make in a lifetime...but that's construction and real estate in a big city. :dunno:
I just throw up pictures for something to look at for you guys.

C_Dave45
05-09-2010, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by HondaKid


Now there is a reality show, "Two Beyonders Lay It Down". I have the camera and can shoot the scenes, just need to find the two members.

Would that air right after "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy"?
:nut:

HondaKid
05-09-2010, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by C_Dave45


Would that air right after "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy"?
:nut:

I was thinking more along the lines of Playboy TV, we can do a softer version with tile as well.

2000_SI
05-09-2010, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by mwmhong

You forgot option #3: while taking a dump :bigpimp:

Alignment is perfect :thumbsup:

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o312/CalgaryDave/Elegant%20house/IMG_0236.jpg

Except for when your wife/gf is in bed and can see you taking a dump or fapping...

I dont think I would want any glass feature between the bathroom and bedroom that you could see through

cam_wmh
05-09-2010, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by C_Dave45
The next one I'm doing for them is a 10,000 sq ft home with all 18x18 travertine marble everywhere.

Morgans Rise? Mckinley?

JordanLotoski
05-09-2010, 11:55 AM
I have a client that just purcahsed the other elegant spec on that street, same deal no water closet, toilet sits out in the open. To me that would turn off 95% of buyers for that home as ensuites and kitchens can make or break a sale.

Lets see some more master bathrooms of beyond members post pic and approx price of your home.

The_Rural_Juror
05-09-2010, 12:23 PM
Those two sinks are way too close together.

FiveFreshFish
05-09-2010, 12:42 PM
I never did like the banjo arm and mirror extending over the toilet.

Really don't need to see yourself taking a piss.

CHICHARITZHI
05-09-2010, 01:08 PM
i don't really like the gas stove and the flooring..

JordanLotoski
05-09-2010, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by FiveFreshFish
I never did like the banjo arm and mirror extending over the toilet.

Really don't need to see yourself taking a piss.

agreed. its very dated

03ozwhip
05-09-2010, 01:58 PM
the master bathroom in my house has a double sink, seperate shower and corner soaker tub and a big ass walk in closet. mind you no fireplace or even tile but just as big if not bigger.

i have no pics because the house is being built as we speak and its not in that stage yet. heres a pic of the upper floor plan. i paid 380k for this house btw....

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s5/cory_mr2/Belmont1-Upper-Floor.gif

C_Dave45
05-10-2010, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by 03ozwhip
the master bathroom in my house has a double sink, seperate shower and corner soaker tub and a big ass walk in closet. mind you no fireplace or even tile but just as big if not bigger.

i have no pics because the house is being built as we speak and its not in that stage yet. heres a pic of the upper floor plan. i paid 380k for this house btw....


I like that layout. The loft is open to the main floor, no? I like that. Where abouts are you building? What was your lot price? Whats the total sq footage?

03ozwhip
05-10-2010, 07:54 AM
this is the second floor, its a 2 story. im building in strathmore. the lot price was 120k and its a huge lot. total sqf with the basement being developed is 2990sqf.

C_Dave45
05-10-2010, 08:18 AM
Originally posted by 03ozwhip
this is the second floor, its a 2 story. im building in strathmore. the lot price was 120k and its a huge lot. total sqf with the basement being developed is 2990sqf.

Wow, what a deal. Might look into building out there. Is that 380k include them finishing your bsmt? Who's your builder?

03ozwhip
05-10-2010, 08:25 AM
yep 380k is with the finished basement, my builder is lifestyle. the only things that price didnt include was the extra cost for over budget of appliances, lighting etc. but did include upgraded hardwood throughout the main and granite countertops.

ya they priced the house wrong when we signed on it, it was going for 350k bare bones, but we negotiated pretty good.

project240
05-10-2010, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by C_Dave45



I've seen your woodwork and that impresses me!

Thanks Dave.

I'm working on some of my own "tiling" right now, will post a few pictures when I'm done...

Canmorite
05-10-2010, 09:13 AM
Great looking work. I love Aspen Woods, the houses up there remind me of Canmore haha. Aspen Lane has some baller houses in it.

Chandler_Racing
05-11-2010, 10:21 AM
I think the problem is not necessarily the builders, but what some people are willing to pay for so little. Call me prudent, cheap, an accountant :) , or whatever but to me that seems an absurd price for that house.

I've been inside several million + houses, but no where near what I assume either you or Jordon have been in.

As an example of where my $1.3M would go, maybe into something like:

http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetails.aspx?propertyId=9168251



Originally posted by C_Dave45


Agreed. I'm curious though. What DO you guys expect for 1.3 mil? How many of you actually walk inside houses that are 1.3? Jordon does, I know. But a "million dollar" home isn't what people think it is. I'm in them all the time. By all kinds of builders. There's no one builder who "outsells" or "outcheaps" them all. You can blindfold me and put me in any house and I'll have no idea who the builder is. They all do pretty much the same work. The biggest difference is location. Thats what determines the price point.

If a builder is charging too much for what he gives...he won't sell anything, as customers will go to the next one.
If a builder is giving away too much, he won't be in business long.

If this builder, for this house in this neighbourhood, was to put all "5 Star" appliances as opposed to Electrolux...Travertine marble instead of porcelain...stone instead of stucco...Solid wood cabinetry as opposed to particle board ...then it would be listed at a lot more and wouldn't sell, based on surrounding houses. Builders have to be extremely shrewd in their pricing. Sitting back and looking at pictures and saying "oh he should've given a lot more for that price" is absurd.
I'm not defending the builders, btw. To me they're all shysters and they're all making way more than you and I will ever make in a lifetime...but that's construction and real estate in a big city. :dunno:
I just throw up pictures for something to look at for you guys.

HondaKid
05-11-2010, 10:27 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chandler_Racing
[B]I think the problem is not necessarily the builders, but what some people are willing to pay for so little. Call me prudent, cheap, an accountant :) , or whatever but to me that seems an absurd price for that house.

I've been inside several million + houses, but no where near what I assume either you or Jordon have been in.

As an example of where my $1.3M would go, maybe into something like:

http://www.realtor.ca/propertyDetails.aspx?propertyId=9168251

That is a great deal, considering all the features of the place and the location to the S/SW of Calgary. You should get a finder fee.

Majestic12
05-12-2010, 12:24 AM
What's with all the carpet everywhere?

Dark-stained hardwood is a pain in the ass to maintain. Dust shows up sooo easily.

03ozwhip
05-12-2010, 07:57 AM
^^^ya but it looks way better than light hardwood.

HondaKid
05-12-2010, 08:00 AM
Originally posted by Majestic12
What's with all the carpet everywhere?

Dark-stained hardwood is a pain in the ass to maintain. Dust shows up sooo easily.

I am anti-carpet as a rule, some love it though. The dust factor will be high, but a house like this has a cleaning service I would think. Silly really these monster houses.

D. Dub
05-12-2010, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by VaN_HaMMeRSTeiN
I think that I would like to live in that house during a zombie apocolypse. It would be good for a battle against the undead.
Just sayin..

:rofl: