Next stocker run?

[CA18-S13]

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone was planning another stocker run?

I'm very eager to get out for the first time and from what I've seen so far it looks like a blast and always a great bunch of guys to go with.

I have a '01 Frontier King Cab (2 door, 4x4). Stock as she comes. haha

I'm hoping to get out soon and meet some new people and have a great day on the trails.
Thanks.

[soccernut]

Hey guys,
I am new to this site as well.
I have an 88 4Runner that I specifically got to be a trail rig. It is pretty much stock right now but I will be slowly modding it.

I would be interested in joining you guys for an easy stocker run; Preferably Waiparous

I hope to meet some cool people along the way and learn a few things.

[ercchry]

i am in for this weekend, should be pretty nice out too!

[j.garner]

i have an 01 xterra pretty much same as the frontier. Mine is stock as well i have 31s though. i wana come out too. I think the only problem is my x doesnt have front or rear toe points

[CA18-S13]

^ There should be two flat pieces of steel with slotted holes just in in front of the engine on the frame rails.

They are welded on the side of the rails.

I picked up some 5/8 shackles from PA and attached them there.

I don't believe 3/4 will fit but worth a try.

As for the rear I'm using my hitch with the hitch pin.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by j.garner
i have an 01 xterra pretty much same as the frontier. Mine is stock as well i have 31s though. i wana come out too. I think the only problem is my x doesnt have front or rear toe points

Do you have a hitch or anything? The Xterra has a frame so adding recovery points should be cheap and easy.

http://www.xterra-wiki.com/index.php?title=Tow_Hook

[j.garner]

Awsome thanks guys how much did the shackles at pa cost?

[BerserkerCatSplat]

PA shackles range from $2 to $20 depending on size. The bigger the stronger, obviously. I need to grab one for myself, come to think of it.

http://www.princessauto.com/farm/hardware/shackles/3800392-shackle-3/4in-hi-tensile-galv_?keyword=shackle

They have recovery hooks as well.

http://www.princessauto.com/truck-trailer/towing/towing-accesories/8002273-10000-lb-tow-hook?keyword=tow+hook

[j.garner]

Never mind i found it on there website tow hook with mounting hardware for 12.99 Pretty pumped to go out. hey CA18-S13 What kind of tires are you running?

[CA18-S13]

This is what I mean by shackle placement on the Frontier/Xterra:

Mine:

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt339/Blue_S13/P5110015.jpg

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt339/Blue_S13/P5110016.jpg

I have just BFG Long Trail stock size. Not the greatest but they do fairly well.

I'm getting some 31x10.5 BFG All Terrains soon as I'm hoping to go a lot this year and the current ones just wont do for when I wanna get really dirty.

[Unknown303]

I could do Saturday if anyone else is up for that day?

[CA18-S13]

"Ercchry", I did that little stretch on Range Road 273 for the hell of it.

It was better than expected and got a little dirty. ;)

There was a decent "puddle" that was a little deeper than I expected and had to giver a little to get through. haha

Indeed I didn't even need to go near 4 low.

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Back on topic. Where do people want to go? Waiporous?

Never been out so it would be great to go with more experienced members who know their way around.

I'm good for saturday.

[Unknown303]

I like Waiparous makes for a decent stock day cruise.

[CelicaST-162]

Originally posted by CA18-S13
^ There should be two flat pieces of steel with slotted holes just in in front of the engine on the frame rails.

They are welded on the side of the rails.

I picked up some 5/8 shackles from PA and attached them there.

I don't believe 3/4 will fit but worth a try.

As for the rear I'm using my hitch with the hitch pin.

May I offer some advice? You're on the right track for starting off with wheeling. You have mediocre tow points in front which is better than no tow points at all. Now, you were looking at using a hitch pin with your hitch? It would work, but if you're going to be using it the way I think you are which is the hooped or eye end of the strap through the pin correct? If so, be prepared to buy a new one or look to be replacing someones strap because that's not the way to do it. Get a hitch receiver shackle, that's the best one to get. National 4WD has them!

[CA18-S13]

Thanks for the advice!

I was thinking of adding 2 recovery hooks on the front tomorrow and I have been doing some reading tonight and I was already going to get a hitch shackle as well. haha

One question....I was wondering why you say the fronts are mediocre?

Not trying to be a dick, just curious is all...

[BerserkerCatSplat]

The metal you would be putting the shackle through is quite thin and not that well supported. Any pulls that weren't dead-straight-on would likely bend the flange rather badly. Not terrible (at least you're not pulling on a control arm or something) but not ideal.

Looking at the pics again, I'm not sure those holes were meant for recovery at all, they may just be the tie-down holes for shipping the vehicle from the factory.

[CA18-S13]

Hmm...according to the FSM those are the recovery brackets. They are 5/16" thick and fully welded to the frame.

I have been pulled out of some stuff before with them and never had a problem yet. :dunno:

IDK, Those are the only thing Nissan gave me to work with. haha

I'm adding some recovery hooks beside them bolted through the rails. There are holes already in the rail perfect for such a thing.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by CA18-S13
"Ercchry", I did that little stretch on Range Road 273 for the hell of it.

It was better than expected and got a little dirty. ;)

There was a decent "puddle" that was a little deeper than I expected and had to giver a little to get through. haha

Indeed I didn't even need to go near 4 low.


yeah i had mud everywhere! i guess i forgot to mention that puddle haha

[j.garner]

where abouts is the stretch on range road 273 maybe ill give it a go this weekend with a buddy

[ercchry]

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/298717/wheeling-general-discussion/

[j.garner]

Thanks>

But back on topic i can go saturday im not sure where though will be my first time out.

[CA18-S13]

I would like to see this Waiperous since I've never been there and others here seem to know the area fairly well.

It looks like there are spots that are tough, but ways around if the vehicle/you are not up to it. :)

Edit: I thinking this is a little better than just a hitch pin. ;)

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt339/Blue_S13/P5120015.jpg

[j.garner]

ok im in does someone want to pick a time to go and a meeting spot?

[CA18-S13]

Meet across from Tim Hortons in Cochrane at 9:30 or so?

I'm just going from the other threads....

BTW, I have an extra radio if someone needs it.

[Unknown303]

SO I'm probably camping this weekend now. But there's a good chance that we'll be somewhere out in Waiparous so can probably meet up.

[CelicaST-162]

Originally posted by CA18-S13
Hmm...according to the FSM those are the recovery brackets. They are 5/16" thick and fully welded to the frame.

I have been pulled out of some stuff before with them and never had a problem yet. :dunno:

IDK, Those are the only thing Nissan gave me to work with. haha

I'm adding some recovery hooks beside them bolted through the rails. There are holes already in the rail perfect for such a thing.

Berserker CatSplat nailed it, they are only meant for tie down for shipping. Again, not trying to sound like a douche, but hooks are not recommend because they can slip out and cause injury. Reciever hitch shackles are the only way to go. Get yourself one soon, because you will eventually...haha.

[Alak]

Im out on account Im waiting for parts.

[j.garner]

Im going to have to back out too sorry guys also going camping this weekend we decided to go this weekend instead of may long.

[CA18-S13]

I would love to get out this weekend...

That being said, is there anyone left who still wants to go?

[ercchry]

i would... but like you have have 0 experience...

[Hamann]

Originally posted by ercchry
i would... but like you have have 0 experience...

This is how you get Experience :thumbsup:

Its honestly alot easier than most people think (Not the extreme rock crawling etc, that shits hard) but doing trails etc, best Advice is to just take it slow, especially if your unsure.

I would be down for heading out, but its my buddy's birthday weekend, and I'm not sure what shape I'll be in on saturday :dunno:

[ercchry]

well i went out once... but i mean more so i do not want to be the one responsible for getting everyone lost in the woods :rofl:

i know i probably will not get stuck or anything... believe me i have tried haha... damn jeep is too good

[Hamann]

Originally posted by ercchry
well i went out once... but i mean more so i do not want to be the one responsible for getting everyone lost in the woods :rofl:

i know i probably will not get stuck or anything... believe me i have tried haha... damn jeep is too good

:rofl:

Well that makes sense, I've never been out to waiparous so I can't be any help with that.

I actually have alot more respect for Jeep's after going offroading with a couple, I used to think they were cute little girl vehicles, but damn those things can make it through the tough shit.

[CA18-S13]

So I get outed because I have no experience?

This is the whole reason I want to try.

I understand that you don't want to be responsible for getting people lost. haha

I'm really only looking to get off pavement and onto easier stuff and maybe get a little muddy. Nothing crazy by any means since I know my tires aren't up to crazy stuff.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by CA18-S13
So I get outed because I have no experience?

This is the whole reason I want to try.


ercchry's sentence was a bit awkward; he was saying that he, too had little or no experience, and thus having only two inexperienced guys on the trail wouldn't exactly be prudent. He certainly wasn't trying to discourage you, it's just that having an experienced leader is a very good idea for first-timers. Heck, I'm certainly not experienced either.

I have to help a friend move on Saturday so I'm out as well, but Sundays are generally good for me.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by CA18-S13
So I get outed because I have no experience?

This is the whole reason I want to try.

I understand that you don't want to be responsible for getting people lost. haha

I'm really only looking to get off pavement and onto easier stuff and maybe get a little muddy. Nothing crazy by any means since I know my tires aren't up to crazy stuff.

well you see this is the reason we need someone to come that has been there before... so we do not end up lost in a 6ft hole of muddy water... hydro locked and no winch in sight

hell i do not even know where to go to get onto any trail out there :rofl:

[CA18-S13]

Yeah I get what he was saying. Should have been an "I" in the spot of the first "have". haha

No worries. Sunday is fine for me if other more "experienced" people are free to partake.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by CA18-S13
Yeah I get what he was saying. Should have been an "I" in the spot of the first "have". haha

No worries. Sunday is fine for me if other more "experienced" people are free to partake.

we could always go play around near the mud pits and stuff at mclean :dunno:

i have been there before :thumbsup:

[CA18-S13]

I found a fairly nice map that could be very helpful.

If something looks to hard I'll just find a way around it or in the worst case just turn around.

I don't feel like causing issues for others if it's not necessary.

[CA18-S13]

McLean sounds like fun but I'm curious as to how busy it will be this weekend?

Waiporous map:

http://www.testosterone.biz/waiporous/maps/waiporous.jpg

[Sugarphreak]

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[Tarzan]

Waiperours is definitely easier than Mclean but as somone else wrote when trails are wet it is a whole different deal. I might be able to go out on Sunday but will have to check a few things first. I think Waiperous is best for a BSR but I am familar with both areas (Mclean reports show it to be very slick and muddy). Time to put the muds on and fix my winch wheeling season is here!

[Alak]

Mclean is usually pretty busy on the weekend, with weekend warriors and such. Its pretty common to bump into people on the trail all the time, so theres no shortage of help if trouble is afoot. And its May, so everyone is going for shakedowns.

Wiaprous is pretty easy most of the time, and its got some good scenery and a few challenging obsticles for the beginner crowd.

I'll probably run a top of the world run for the newbies at the end of the month (depending on when I get my parts & install them).

I could ride along as a guide, but Im not sure about this weekend.

[ercchry]

if you can swing saturday i will have a seat for you

[Alak]

Sundays only for me. My boss is a life sucking nazi from which there is no escape.

[soccernut]

I am in for a Sunday run to Waiparous.

[j.garner]

Originally posted by Alak
Sundays only for me. My boss is a life sucking nazi from which there is no escape.

Sounds like me wife. :drama:

[CA18-S13]

Sunday is fine for me as well.

So it looks like like there could possibly be 3 vehicles and 4 people who are interested.

If "Ercchry" and "Alak" are available Sunday and willing to go that would be awesome.

I'm not trying to pressure (not that it would do anything anyways, haha), just trying to see if this weekend is salvageable.

[ercchry]

yeah i am free sunday... just do not know about the passenger seat... saturday was good because the girlfriend was busy haha

[CA18-S13]

Ohh, playing with fire not letting her ride along. haha

[strong]

Im down with rolling out Sunday to mclean lets make a meeting time and Im quite familar with the trails there.

[CA18-S13]

I thought we were still talking about a Waiporous run? :dunno:

From the other comments above it seems Wai is easier and with a map/gps it really shouldn't be that hard to navigate.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

I'm in for Sunday as well, preferably Waiparous.

[ercchry]

so Waiparous it is? how muddy is it out there? i kinda want to take the roof off... but if it is anything like McLean then i will keep it on :rofl:

[CA18-S13]

How big is your roof?

It may fit in my bed if you want to run naked....

[ercchry]

it folds yp... i have the softtop on.. but i do not like bringing the "windows" with me when i put it down... takes up too much room and i dont wanna scratch them

[soccernut]

I might take the roof off my 4Runner as well....Sunday Waiparous works well for me...The earlier the better.

[CA18-S13]

Ok, it seems there are a few who are in for Sunday at Waiparous.

How does meet at 9 am across from Tim Hortons in Cochrane sound?

[soccernut]

Sounds good to me...

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Sounds good, who's going to lead?

[strong]

Im in for Sunday. Wai it is just have had some mixed feelings for the place but im down with rolling out for the day.

[Tarzan]

As great as convertables are the draw backs are huge. If its dry you end up caked in dust and if wet that dust is mud. A 4Runner is ok for the driver but the rear folks get showered. Heck I have had mud all over my dash and inside window just due to my side windows being open so go topless at you own peril. I wish I had video of a friends Jeep when he got stuck and the rooster tail of wet slop went up over and into the open cab it was priceless.

[CA18-S13]

So I guess I'll make the "official" meeting time of 9:00-9:30 across from Tim Hortons.

I have two radios I can bring if someone needs/if we are going to use them.

Guess I should be getting some gear together..hmm.

[strong]

K See you there tomorrow morning.

Timmys in Cocktown around 9..... should be good

[ercchry]

FRS/GMRS Channel 2, Privacy Channel 5 again?

[Alak]

Looks like the weather is going to be nice! Have fun lads!

[strong]

Decided to go camping tonight. Might see you guys rolling have a good time

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Hang on, is there anyone who's familiar with the trails still going?

[CA18-S13]

I'm sure that it isn't rocket science and that a few competent guys can figure it out. :)

I'll print off that map I have and use the GPS if needed.

I'm sure the trails are fairly straight forward and shouldn't be too hard to navigate.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by Alak
Looks like the weather is going to be nice! Have fun lads!

the girlfriend will not be making it if you wanna ride shotgun

[CA18-S13]

Loading up stuff now and looking forward to meeting you guys tomorrow and breaking my offroad cherry! Yayy.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

See you guys at 9:30!

[soccernut]

Just about to leave in a bit....see you guys there

[ercchry]

arg, stupid ray is late! i think i am going to leave without him....

[Tarzan]

Not as late as me but I'm on my way.

[CelicaST-162]

Pitchers up yet? :burnout: :burnout:

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Will be soon, I just got home. Personally, I'm looking forward to the vid of us unsticking ercchry. :D

[ercchry]

I do not know what you are talking about.... :D

[BerserkerCatSplat]

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[ercchry]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat


http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/CatSplat/Jeep/debcac0d.jpg



hrm... perhaps this was the cause of the fan failure :rofl:

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by ercchry


hrm... perhaps this was the cause of the fan failure :rofl:

We may have considered that as a possibility. :rofl:

[Alak]

How did you get it going again? whack it with a shackle?

[ercchry]

Originally posted by Alak
How did you get it going again? whack it with a shackle?

close... hammer on the side of it haha, as you can see we tested everything first, then bang bang and it started

[soccernut]

That was an awsome time...Look forward for the next one.
Sorry i didn't have the time last night to load my pics and videos.
Will do that once I get home from work today.

[Alak]

Originally posted by ercchry


close... hammer on the side of it haha, as you can see we tested everything first, then bang bang and it started


I think I said something to you about givin it a good whack when it stops lol.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by Alak



I think I said something to you about givin it a good whack when it stops lol.

yeah, i thought you were talking about stuff getting stuck in it and whacking the blades so it spins free again... but yeah turns out i do have a light that comes on and stays on when it overheats :rofl:

[Alak]

Originally posted by ercchry

yeah turns out i do have a light that comes on and stays on when it overheats :rofl:

Must be an upgrade for the new models. Maybe if they install a light, it wont overheat.

You know, instead of installing a proper fan. :rofl: :rofl:

[soccernut]

Sorry it took me so long, here is that recovery video as promised:
http://vimeo.com/11938036

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Nice vid! :thumbsup:

[Alak]

Im heading out tomorrow (Mclean) for a shakedown. I'll see you lads out there if you get a chance to get out. Report from today was there was ALOT of people out there. And alot of big, stuck trucks.