Nice! This is a sweet bypass oil filter setup

[AndyL]

Caught this one in fourwheeler... This is cool, Even better when the CEO answers emails within minutes when asked about availability / pricing (website hasn't been updated)

http://paretopoint.com/item---Pareto-Point-Industry-Launches-TopDogV--press_topdogv_bypass.html

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Thank you for your interest in TopDog V, the Parallel-Flow Oil Bypass
Filtration System. As I mentioned to several of you, the pre-launch came
early and exceeded our expectations. We are moving as fast as we can to
replenish our stock. This should be accomplished within two weeks. Thanks
also for your patience. Meanwhile, I have attached a short paper that
explains the product as well as a press release for your review. We want
to make sure that you are wholly satisfied with TopDog V. Please feel free
to call me with any questions you may have.

Pricing is based on the diameter of your current full-flow filter, the
nipple bore (4.5" only), and whether you want to purchase a) the system
adapter alone for those who want to build their systems (solo price), or b)
the entire system, which includes the system adapter, rubber hoses and
fittings, a remote mount, and an Amsoil bypass filter rated at 2 microns,
absolute (kit price). PPI retail pricing is:
4.5" diameter full-flow: Solo - from $102 - $126 Kit
$222 - 246 (depending on bore size)
3.5" diameter full-flow: Solo - $84 Kit
- $192
3.0" diameter full-flow: Solo - $78 Kit
- $190

While this will not affect most of you, please be advised that:
. Some GM big/small block engines require an extension plate. This
will add about $20 to the cost. We will have instructions for this on the
website soon, or call us.
. This TopDog V model does not work with canister filters. That model
is under development
. If you are building your own system, the adapter/system will not
work well with high resistance bypass filters due to our directing the clean
oil into the engine galleries, rather than the sump. We recommend that you
use the AMSOIL Bypass filter we recommend or an equivalent.

We look forward to hearing from you. I am hoping to have the shopping cart
up in about ten days. If you need to know the proper size to order,
including nipple thread/pitch, please send us the following: vehicle
year/make/model and engine size OR filter make and model.

Thank you again for considering TopDog V,

Bob H

Robert J Hammer, Ph.D.
Chief Executive Officer
Pareto Point Industries
7250 Bandini Blvd, #114
Commerce, CA 90040-3344
323 726-2199 (office)
310 993-1069 (cell)
323 726-2184 (fax)
[email protected]
www.paretopoint.com

Amsoil filter, but without the cost of the amsoil kit - nice :)

[Cos]

Excuse my ignorance but what is the benefit of this? Sounds cool but wouldnt you want all the oil travel through the filter? or is this to limit starvation due to plugging.

[AndyL]

You still get full flow through the typical filter, but you're adding in a 2 micron filter to polish the oil... Know a few guys who've run the amsoil bypass filter kits in cummins/PSD - Ever seen a diesel with 10k on it's oil that looks like it was just poured out of the jug - that's what the bypass filters do - polish the oil to almost perfectly clean...

But the amsoil kit is mega expensive (think it was 700$ last time I priced it out) and is a PITA to mount...

[Cos]

ohhhh so it is a secondary filter, not really a filter bypass system. Gotcha.


Do you need a new amisol filter every time or are they washable? How much is a replacement filter? Same OCI for the micron filter? This could be very good. The modular in my truck is notorious for small oil gallery's

[AndyL]

They call it a bypass filter - not sure the whole reasoning behind that name, the Amsoil kit comes with a mount for 2-3 filters an oil filter relocator, you need to find space for the filters on the firewall / on the framerails (need to stand up vertically). That's always been an issue with me...

There's a bunch of companies that make the 2micron filters; the guys I know running them - are getting 35-40k before they need to change out the 2 micron filter - they're not too bad, about 50$. Both the guys I know running them basically wait until their oil starts to look dirty before they swap em out - one follows regular maintenance schedules, the other is one of those nutty monthly oil analysis types - last I heard he was up to 65,000 on the mobil1 in his cummins...

[2EFNFAST]

Seems unnecessary to me. My dad usually gets 400+ out of his engines, and all he ever does is buy the cheapest oil he can find on sale (doesn't care if it's 5w30 or 10w30, or the brand) and oil change every 5000.

[AndyL]

Yup, I'm right there with your dad honestly - Big fan of the cheap walmart oil; and whatever oil filter I can get cheap... Never had an issue.

However - I really like these bypass filters. Even better than running on 'pane - oil stays absolutely clean as a whistle - even in diesels.

[CapnCrunch]

Originally posted by 2EFNFAST
Seems unnecessary to me. My dad usually gets 400+ out of his engines, and all he ever does is buy the cheapest oil he can find on sale (doesn't care if it's 5w30 or 10w30, or the brand) and oil change every 5000.

It has more value to someone who doesn't have as much time as your dad, or someone who works in remote areas and can't just swing by the Walmart after work. Think of people who work up north and leave their trucks running 24 hours a day.

[2EFNFAST]

true, I hadn't thought about that extreme work type cases