Making my own exotic with a 300zx as a donar

[Arash Boodagh]

Greeting Beyond.ca members, Im redesigning my 300zx and I wanted some feed back and any new design ideas for it.
Im looking to sell a few clones of the car locally, then I plan to sell kits for other 300zx owner.

Video of the current design.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl0Iqq24nmo


What I plan to make the car look like after fiberglass
http://i50.tinypic.com/2qlg6c9.jpg

[dj_rice]

:nut:

Should change it to Nissan Rigor









































Mortis

[StreetRacerX]

I would have held off until you actually made some progress with the body work before posting on Beyond, that video doesn't help a whole lot with the turning the 300ZX into a exotic idea, it just looks like you threw some cardboard on the front. People like to see long posts chalk full of info and pictures on the finished product, as far as they are concerned you haven't done much so far and the idea sounds silly since most people are satisfied with the way a 300ZX looks stock bodied, good luck with it though.

[ExtraSlow]

Just a note, it's spelled donair.

[Kona9]

Exotic? No. As mentioned, make actual progress and photo staged work and the responses you get will be more supportive.

Have you researched the time and money factor into your project? Do you feel there will be enough sales to justify your efforts?

I say Pipe Dream.

edit - LOL @ Extra Slow

[captain134]

Subscribed ! :clap:

[Arash Boodagh]

Thanks StreetRacerX, Ive been flamed at the Zx forums for it, problem is it would be too late to change things on the design once its complete.


Yes dj_rice, its the death of one car but a birth of another, plus there are another 100,000 Zeds in north America still.

edit

Originally posted by Kona9
Exotic? No. As mentioned, make actual progress and photo staged work and the responses you get will be more supportive.

Have you researched the time and money factor into your project? Do you feel there will be enough sales to justify your efforts?

I say Pipe Dream.

edit - LOL @ Extra Slow I wanted this for my self first and selling it is just a great way to make money. As for the money factor, I did the top panels in fiberglass but the stuff is too toxic, Im going to contract a professional to finish the rest off which I dont think should cost too much.

[Kloubek]

OK.... I'm going to tell it like it is, imo.

First of all, a body does not an exotic make. No matter what you do with this - even if your successful, it won't be an exotic. So people will laugh at you less if you stop calling it that. This is not "another car". This is a restyling kit you are trying to make for the 300zx. At the end of the day, it is still looks, sounds, and performs like a 300zx, but looks slightly different.

Second - I think the rear does not have enough change to it. If you're going for a full appearance package, you'll have to do better than that.

Third - if you want a body package, you need three elements. The front and back, which you've covered. But yet, the car looks like a 100% stock 300 from the side? Hell no. Get some side skirts or something on there.

I understand what DJ is saying. Yes, there are still many 300's out there. But we're talking about a 15-20 year old car. They are going to dwindle fast, and the market for people dumping this kind of money into an old car is slim.

Look Arash - I like what you're doing with this. If I could flip a switch and put some of those elements on my z, I would consider it. Would I pay thousands to do so? No. Is there going to be enough demand from others to do so? No.

Are you wasting your time and money? Yes.

It's honestly not about coming on here and trying to make you feel bad; it is about saving you further torment from your peers, and losing any money you intend to put into this project. It isn't going to happen. And if it DOES, you're going to lose a ton of money.

Take advice from the song you used in the video: "Leave it alone".

[dj_rice]

If you've been flamed from the Zx forums which is your target market, then I think you have your answer.



What your doing, is only going to attract certain types of people to even consider buying it. If I painted my car pink, you think its gonna sell?Hell no, its gonna sit and sit till one fruity nut thinks pink is cool and buy it, and if thats the way your gonna do business then :facepalm:


Your gonna be like a Ford Probe owner at a car show with a full Combat bodykit and big 19" chrome Dayton rims and blue underglow and you think its its pretty tight when in fact, people walk by and laugh.

[shakalaka]

Or instead of venturing into it as a business idea, first perhaps, just make one for yourself. See what kind of interest you get in it and if there's any actual potential in the project as a business.

I would make sure that the project has at least some interest before investing too much of time and money into it, but that's just me.

[Rat Fink]

Looks like you're trying to turn a 300ZX into a Tiburon

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/2005_silver_Hyundai_Tiburon_front.JPG

[jonfoo]

Originally posted by Rat Fink
Looks like you're trying to turn a 300ZX into a Tiburon



no, no it doesn't, from what i gathered from your pics your gonna use the stock headlights and just frame them with led?

thats gonna look stupid

other than that it looks good, well not the back end chops you put up, you should name it something that isn't already a crappy acura

[FiveFreshFish]

Your grill badge in the video looks a lot like Peugeot's lion.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41575000/jpg/_41575190_lion.jpg

[Kloubek]

I'm guessing he'd not put that badge on it. Nor the Ininiti on the right side of the picture, or what appears to be an upside-down acura logo on the left of the same pic.

Jonfoo - I was wondering if those were LEDs. Ya gotta do something with that space, or it looks more retarded. LEDs seem a reasonable alternative to a needless black void.

I'm wondering now, how exactly the hood is shaped like this. I can only imagine it is an entirely different hood. Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain the hood cannot dip in the middle like that with the top of the timing cover and an array of other systems right under it. The only way is to modify the engine so it sits lower (ya right), or replace the front fenders as well.

So this "mild refresh" becomes a full out front-end rebody. Plus a rear end rebody. Yet still looks like a 300zx with a body kit, but costs about $3000 more than a body kit would.

Plus installation.

But it looks kinda neat.

Oh... and doesn't look like a Tiburon. Are you on crack?

[FivE.SeveN]

OP don't be fucking stupid. Z owners LIKE the original style, and your kit hacks it to shit.

Hmmm I got flamed to hell on the enthusiast forums, screw them I'll make it anyway!


Either this is another troll or the dumbest attempt at ricing out a respectable car that I've ever seen.

[Onassis]

Heh, the 300zx's headlights were used on several exocits in the early 90's. You should try selling a pure dry carbon kit that actually has performance value.

[sneek]

LOL@DJ Rice's first post.

The 300ZX is a great car, actually one of my first cars! One thing I have to say is that most people with Zs are happy with the look of their car. If they weren't they would have purchased a body kit.







Sorry to do this OP, but the Z threads were just too funny for me to keep to myself.

http://www.aus300zx.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295957

http://i50.tinypic.com/27xnus2.jpg

http://i32.tinypic.com/2nau0ch.jpg

[streethondas]

this is how a Z should look like just leave it as is...

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs134.snc1/5728_150116212094_716007094_3957244_876802_n.jpg

[Kloubek]

^^ Hey Mr. You didn't exactly leave yours stock there ya know.

Though I must admit, I used to have a similar bumper, and it looked pretty bad-ass.

[KRZY403]

LOL at op. this is a stupid idea. dont waste your time. as mentioned earlier, if you were flamed on zx forums then don't even bother. How can anyone even take you seriously with that video and pictures.

[slinkie]

haters gonna hate bro

[2EFNFAST]

In before Acura & Infiniti lawsuit!

[Svanzy Ya]

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k159/Mark-DeB/ZFail.jpg

[VWEvo]

Please tell me that video was a joke. It reminds me of Borat:facepalm:

[911fever]

LOL @ upside down Infiniti logo

[barmanjay]

buy a fiero and them do it,..

will be made less fun of and some people may think it's an upgrade to an old gm body?

[D911]

go look up a stile bertone mantide.

*THAT* is how you rebody a car haha.

[epp01]

If you want to convert it to an "exotic" you first have to worry about performance, can you supply brakes to slow down from 200mph? Can you even have enough horsepower to get to 200mph? What are you going to do with the suspension? IMO the body should be the LAST thing to worry about till everything else is figured out man.

[streethondas]

the video was too boring however the suggested video were awesome :D

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[Arash Boodagh]

Originally posted by Kloubek
OK.... I'm going to tell it like it is, imo.

First of all, a body does not an exotic make. No matter what you do with this - even if your successful, it won't be an exotic. So people will laugh at you less if you stop calling it that. This is not "another car". This is a restyling kit you are trying to make for the 300zx. At the end of the day, it is still looks, sounds, and performs like a 300zx, but looks slightly different.

Second - I think the rear does not have enough change to it. If you're going for a full appearance package, you'll have to do better than that.

Third - if you want a body package, you need three elements. The front and back, which you've covered. But yet, the car looks like a 100% stock 300 from the side? Hell no. Get some side skirts or something on there. Part of the goal in making the Vigor is to keep costs down on the kit.
I wont be offering the rear as of yet but even those add-ons are planned to be made very cheaply and for maximum effect in looks.

Originally posted by Kloubek

I understand what DJ is saying. Yes, there are still many 300's out there. But we're talking about a 15-20 year old car. They are going to dwindle fast, and the market for people dumping this kind of money into an old car is slim.

Look Arash - I like what you're doing with this. If I could flip a switch and put some of those elements on my z, I would consider it. Would I pay thousands to do so? No. Is there going to be enough demand from others to do so? No.

Are you wasting your time and money? Yes.

It's honestly not about coming on here and trying to make you feel bad; it is about saving you further torment from your peers, and losing any money you intend to put into this project. It isn't going to happen. And if it DOES, you're going to lose a ton of money.

Take advice from the song you used in the video: "Leave it alone". Id like to keep the kits under $5k at first and gradually sell them for around 2-3k.
The 300zx will have failing parts which is its biggest problem and the downside of owning such a unique car... but at least the parts wont cost as much as other sports cars. Also there are Zed specialist that can diagnose its problems in almost every city I bet, one just needs to find them.






Originally posted by dj_rice
If you've been flamed from the Zx forums which is your target market, then I think you have your answer.



What your doing, is only going to attract certain types of people to even consider buying it. If I painted my car pink, you think its gonna sell?Hell no, its gonna sit and sit till one fruity nut thinks pink is cool and buy it, and if thats the way your gonna do business then :facepalm:


Your gonna be like a Ford Probe owner at a car show with a full Combat bodykit and big 19" chrome Dayton rims and blue underglow and you think its its pretty tight when in fact, people walk by and laugh. I think my market target could be a wide selection of people. I go into detail about it in the following thread
http://forums.nicoclub.com/a-way-to-make-mad-money-t468897.html





Originally posted by jonfoo


no, no it doesn't, from what i gathered from your pics your gonna use the stock headlights and just frame them with led?

thats gonna look stupid

other than that it looks good, well not the back end chops you put up, you should name it something that isn't already a crappy acura Keeping the original headlights will pass many legal technicalities and also keep cost to a minimum.
Im open to naming it something else, but the vigor name get its origin from the word vigorous, which this car is like on the road.




Originally posted by FiveFreshFish
Your grill badge in the video looks a lot like Peugeot's lion.

Yes but its suppose to be a panther but before I make a solid decision I'll probably go with the upside down Infiniti emblem which looks like a V for Vigor. Too bad the Mazda symbol will also look similar.
http://i46.tinypic.com/14ocfnp.jpg




Originally posted by Kloubek
[B]I'm guessing he'd not put that badge on it. Nor the Ininiti on the right side of the picture, or what appears to be an upside-down acura logo on the left of the same pic.

Jonfoo - I was wondering if those were LEDs. Ya gotta do something with that space, or it looks more retarded. LEDs seem a reasonable alternative to a needless black void.

I'm wondering now, how exactly the hood is shaped like this. I can only imagine it is an entirely different hood. Unfortunately, I'm fairly certain the hood cannot dip in the middle like that with the top of the timing cover and an array of other systems right under it. The only way is to modify the engine so it sits lower (ya right), or replace the front fenders as well.

So this "mild refresh" becomes a full out front-end rebody. Plus a rear end rebody. Yet still looks like a 300zx with a body kit, but costs about $3000 more than a body kit would.

Plus installation.

But it looks kinda neat.

Oh... and doesn't look like a Tiburon. Are you on crack? When the hood is open in the video, one can notice how it flops around and is very weak. I will be incorporating those parts into the middle section and keep running the original hood lines across the top of the headlights.





Originally posted by FivE.SeveN
OP don't be fucking stupid. Z owners LIKE the original style, and your kit hacks it to shit.

Hmmm I got flamed to hell on the enthusiast forums, screw them I'll make it anyway!


Either this is another troll or the dumbest attempt at ricing out a respectable car that I've ever seen. People outside of the Z community dont always see the Zed as a timeless classic. I think once compared to the original, the Vigor might attract more consumers because of how round and modern looking it is.
Also if I was trolling, would I go and cut up my fenders just to have wide headlights for my trolling game? Just look at the original Zed. http://images04.olx.com/ui/1/86/75/3728175_1.jpg




Originally posted by Onassis
Heh, the 300zx's headlights were used on several exocits in the early 90's. You should try selling a pure dry carbon kit that actually has performance value. If my kit company actually starts making profits, I would love to do special composite, urethane and aluminum versions.




Originally posted by sneek
LOL@DJ Rice's first post.

The 300ZX is a great car, actually one of my first cars! One thing I have to say is that most people with Zs are happy with the look of their car. If they weren't they would have purchased a body kit.


Sorry to do this OP, but the Z threads were just too funny for me to keep to myself.
:) yes I have more then a few of these threads, all full of flaming :D
My car kit gives the car a new identity, not enhance or ruin the zx original look.

[Kloubek]

Well, if nothing else - I commend you for keeping a level head in the face of the negativity, and your dedication to your concept.

I still maintain it is a bad idea, for several reasons already stated. But if you do go forward with all of this, I wish you the best of luck. Just don't come back on here later unless you're willing to hear the "I told you so's".

[Arash Boodagh]

:thumbsup:



Originally posted by KRZY403
LOL at op. this is a stupid idea. dont waste your time. as mentioned earlier, if you were flamed on zx forums then don't even bother. How can anyone even take you seriously with that video and pictures. I would rather drive my scrap metal body kit over your Acura RSX :burnout:
http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww300/anbu387/Untitled-1-1.jpg



Originally posted by 2EFNFAST
In before Acura & Infiniti lawsuit! I actually welcome lawsuits since it would be good publicity for me.



Originally posted by barmanjay
buy a fiero and them do it,..

will be made less fun of and some people may think it's an upgrade to an old gm body? There are a handful of donor cars I can use but the 300zx is best suited because of its body shape, horse power potential (700rwhp), interior cockpit, and there just fun to drive.





Originally posted by D911
go look up a stile bertone mantide.

*THAT* is how you rebody a car haha.
Imagine how hard I would get flamed if I proposed this as a design :D
http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/bertone-mantide/Bertone_Mantide_01.jpg





Originally posted by epp01
If you want to convert it to an "exotic" you first have to worry about performance, can you supply brakes to slow down from 200mph? Can you even have enough horsepower to get to 200mph? What are you going to do with the suspension? IMO the body should be the LAST thing to worry about till everything else is figured out man. Im going for looks only, performance upgrades can come later when if I have money to burn.
here is a 500+rwhp kit for $5k that supports the turbo editions of the Zed. I can challenge many Lambos and Ferrari's with that much power.
http://www.z1motorsports.com/product_info.php?cPath=6_343&products_id=1082&osCsid=9p4u364ui45qiuiu66et7r5bc2

[SlickA70]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
Id like to keep the kits under $5k at first and gradually sell them for around 2-3k.

Would that be for paper mache or cardboard?

Jokes aside, Having a few friends who own Z32's, I highly doubt this would be worth it. Rebodies (Abflug, Veilside to name a few) usually require some mad $$$ and even then only appeal to a smaller audience. $3000 would get some respectable figures from the VG, together with Stillen kit or post 96 front bumper, it would be a pretty sick whip. IMO if its a one off for yourself it'd be tight, thats about it.

[benz_890]

Originally posted by ExtraSlow
Just a note, it's spelled donair.



mmm, donair :drool: I am craving one now

[SlickA70]

http://i37.tinypic.com/21cvt2.jpg

[SJW]

All car talk aside, what about the donair now? How will you mod the donair?

[ExtraSlow]

At least a thread about donair would make some fucking sense.

As it is, this guy wants to turn a classic sports car into this:
http://www.qubenzis.com/q/wp-content/uploads/alien-03-alien-face-strata-apherecom-blog.jpg
and make a profit, but he has no business plan for it.

Good luck.

[01RedDX]

Yeah man... at least finish making it look like ass first.

[g-m]

ahahahaha this guys been flamed off nicoclub, 300zxclub.com, and twinturbo.net.

Hes just a simple troll and his car will never be finished. Also, people here aren't interested in your gay little tinfoil and paper mache art project either AssRashBugger. He actually got his name changed to assrashbugger on 300zxclub. Don't feed this tool, hes obviously just going around the internet trying to troll automotive boards

edit: Here is his shitty 300zxclub.com thread in which he made absolutely zero progress in 7 months. http://www.300zxclub.com/showthread.php?t=167515 Well, other than telling people that he was working on it with no pics. Not that anyone wants to see the disaster of a car hes working on.

Don't bother posting in this thread, just refer to the 33 pages of flaming in that thread. I doubt anything will be rehashed here that wasn't already said in that thread.

[moose911]

ahahaha his name is arash.. A RASH upon the asses of noble nissan owners. your disgrace the automotive enthusiasts club.
take your ''donair'' ''backhome'', perhaps you can 'wrap' it around thier minds about how much 'mad money' your gonna make.

they called delorean mad.. but you. you are what we canadians call retarded.

hehe im so witty.

[Arash Boodagh]

Your a disgrace to the title, automotive enthusiasts club.


Originally posted by g-m
ahahahaha this guys been flamed off nicoclub, 300zxclub.com, and twinturbo.net.

Hes just a simple troll and his car will never be finished. Also, people here aren't interested in your gay little tinfoil and paper mache art project either AssRashBugger. He actually got his name changed to assrashbugger on 300zxclub. Don't feed this tool, hes obviously just going around the internet trying to troll automotive boards

edit: Here is his shitty 300zxclub.com thread in which he made absolutely zero progress in 7 months. http://www.300zxclub.com/showthread.php?t=167515 Well, other than telling people that he was working on it with no pics. Not that anyone wants to see the disaster of a car hes working on.

Don't bother posting in this thread, just refer to the 33 pages of flaming in that thread. I doubt anything will be rehashed here that wasn't already said in that thread. Yes I remember you from your avatar, your a troll your self. Im making a revolutionary project and its ass hats like you that accuse people of trolling and put doubt in peoples minds and impede progress.

If anyone reads that thread (even though that site loads incredibly slow) you`ll see that I already made a prototype before and many progress details have been discussed already for me to get to where I am.

I stopped putting updates there because of the lack of respect with my name and all the trolls like g-m. The next time I post there will be when I have the kit for sale to make money.

[SlickA70]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
The next time I post there will be when I have the kit for sale to make money.

Listen Arash Boogerdah, scrap the car man. Create something like a do it yourself donair kit.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_AY_2Vw_wLqM/SnzCV4uJJJI/AAAAAAAAAX0/nDgJQv_bRQA/s320/012.JPG

[Ashkente]

I think banned3x has to hand over the reigns to his custom title...:banghead:

[Arash Boodagh]

Originally posted by SlickA70
[B]
Listen Arash Boogerdah, scrap the car man. Create something like a do it yourself donair kit.
I like donairs SlickAzz, maybe I can turn a $50 bread maker into a donair rotisserie :thumbsup:

Funny how googling ``donair machine`` brings a Beyond.ca thread as the first result.

[SlickA70]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
I like donairs SlickAzz, maybe I can turn a $50 bread maker into a donair rotisserie :thumbsup:

Would that be a 20 yr old, naturally aspirated, $3000 headturner aswell?

Clearly Boogerdah Enterprises(C) has room to diversify.

[97'Scort]

You're in Vancouver, I see. I will volunteer on behalf of Beyond to come on over and see your progress. cjblair and I can do a road trip.

[Arash Boodagh]

Sounds great, I hope to have it on Robson street in 2 weeks and continually park it there during certain days. Being Vancouver's trendiest street, it would be the best place to advertise my website to buy my car.
Soon the cars body will be fiberglassed by someone and the rest would be details like adding a vinyl paint job (large stickers), car blinkers and an insurance transfer.


Originally posted by SlickA70


Would that be a 20 yr old, naturally aspirated, $3000 headturner aswell?

Clearly Boogerdah Enterprises(C) has room to diversify. 3k is being a little optimistic, unless we can falsely advertise it as a Lamborghini sponsored quality gyro machine!.. add actual functioning parts like a spooling fan with blow valves and diffusing tail pipes. I think we have a winner, so who wants to invest?

[Ashkente]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
3k is being a little optimistic, unless we can falsely advertise it as a Lamborghini sponsored quality gyro machine!.. add actual functioning parts like a spooling fan with blow valves and diffusing tail pipes. I think we have a winner, so who wants to invest?

Quoted for wtf...

[97'Scort]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
Sounds great, I hope to have it on Robson street in 2 weeks and continually park it there during certain days. Being Vancouver's trendiest street, it would be the best place to advertise my website to buy my car.
Soon the cars body will be fiberglassed by someone and the rest would be details like adding a vinyl paint job (large stickers), car blinkers and an insurance transfer.

I'm not paying for ferry fare until I have confirmation that it's done. Define "soon." Also, parking it on Robson street will not exactly draw customers since you won't find your average Z owner cruising to find body kits there. I suggest revscene meets for your target audience :P

[Arash Boodagh]

Originally posted by 97'Scort
I'm not paying for ferry fare until I have confirmation that it's done. Define "soon." Also, parking it on Robson street will not exactly draw customers since you won't find your average Z owner cruising to find body kits there. I suggest revscene meets for your target audience :P Having a contractor do the fiberglass work can make for unexpected delays, I will definitely post here days in advance the dates that Ill have the car on Robson, thanks for the RevScene referral, I will make an announcement there also once I finish.

Having the car on Robson could basically attract anyone who thinks the car is beautiful and I would sell the car as a whole to them.

[SlickA70]

Having the car on Robson could basically attract anyone who thinks the car is beautiful and I would sell the car as a whole to them

So your looking to show this prototype off or just trying to sell it?

[Arash Boodagh]

Originally posted by SlickA70


So your looking to show this prototype off or just trying to sell it? First Im going to make 2 clone shells of the design, then I will try to sell my car and later market the kits too.

[97'Scort]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
thanks for the RevScene referral, I will make an announcement there also once I finish.

Please do :rofl:

[4lti]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
First Im going to make 2 clone shells of the design, then I will try to sell my car and later market the kits too.

In all interest of business.

What experience do you have in the business industry?
Have you looked up the sales on 300s lately?
Have you looked at the sales of body kits and mods for the 300s?

Now lastely, have you looked at the sales of NO NAME kits for 300s?

As much as the 300 is a popular car, it isnt really a car with a large market for selling kits for it.
Youd be much better off making cheap bumpers and selling them on cheap magazines or something.
If your being made fun of so much from so many threads, it kinda means that your a joke. Fuck it and move on before you regret this EVEN MORE down the road.

Do some more research on your business next time man...
Cause this business your trying to make is just going to cost you alot of money you could have spent somewhere else.

(I believe using another business' (Infiniti) logo is illegal to)

[SlickA70]

First Im going to make 2 clone shells of the design, then I will try to sell my car and later market the kits too.

Considering that youtube video was uploaded on June 16, 10. I'm curious as to how your going to position this car for sale? Primarily since it looks like a 300zx wrapped in yesterdays newspaper to cover a missing nose panel.

If the car doesn't sell with this awesome set-up, how do you imagine the kits will sell?

I'm just trying to get a feel for your market strategy.

[Arash Boodagh]

Originally posted by 4lti
In all interest of business.

What experience do you have in the business industry?
Nothing "professionally" I think common sense and my limbs will go a long way.

Have you looked up the sales on 300s lately?

Yes, they are amazingly cheap for such a beautiful and masterfully engineered car



Have you looked at the sales of body kits and mods for the 300s?
Now lastely, have you looked at the sales of NO NAME kits for 300s?
My kit isnt like anything else in the market to compare it to as the cars whole front appearance is changed

As much as the 300 is a popular car, it isnt really a car with a large market for selling kits for it.
Youd be much better off making cheap bumpers and selling them on cheap magazines or something.
If your being made fun of so much from so many threads, it kinda means that your a joke. Fuck it and move on before you regret this EVEN MORE down the road.
I've shown my project to the popular Zx forums which have many members, a small percentage may consider my kit. I dont rely on Z owner to make profits from, there are many automobile consumers that are tired of all the new cars being so large and boxy, I think a niche market will be wanted for my make of design. The best part about the kits are that you yourself can buy a 300zx, transform it with the kit, and resale it for as much profit as the buyer you find is willing to pay for it

Do some more research on your business next time man...
Cause this business your trying to make is just going to cost you alot of money you could have spent somewhere else. Because of my fathers help and being unemployed with spare time on my hands, my dream of having a nice looking car is coming true


Originally posted by SlickA70


Considering that youtube video was uploaded on June 16, 10. I'm curious as to how your going to position this car for sale? Primarily since it looks like a 300zx wrapped in yesterdays newspaper to cover a missing nose panel.

If the car doesn't sell with this awesome set-up, how do you imagine the kits will sell?

I'm just trying to get a feel for your market strategy. Once the fiberglass and vinyl is applied, it will look clean with natural flowing lines.

If it doesnt sell, then I greatly underestimated the peoples want for a cool car.

[ExtraSlow]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
If it doesnt sell, then I greatly underestimated the peoples want for a cool car.
Yep, you've underestimated all right.

[97'Scort]

The best part about the kits are that you yourself can buy a 300zx, transform it with the kit, and resale it for as much profit as the buyer you find is willing to pay for it

So your entire business model is to make a body kit for a 300ZX that people will buy to put on their cars so they can sell it at an inflated price?

How much bud you been smoking, man?

[Idratherbsidewayz]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh


Once the fiberglass and vinyl is applied, it will look clean with natural flowing lines.

If it doesnt sell, then I greatly underestimated the peoples want for a cool car.

I am absolutely stunned by how oblivious to the real world you are. Your naivety and lack of basic business knowledge apalls every one of my senses.

:facepalm:

[SlickA70]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
If it doesnt sell, then I greatly underestimated the peoples want for a cool car.

That has to be the smartest thing he has said in any post, in any thread, on any forum I've read in the last day.

Get on this level before you try to make a point:
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/SLICK-MICK/1666072_600.jpg
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/SLICK-MICK/1666070_600.jpg
http://i654.photobucket.com/albums/uu261/SLICK-MICK/1666497_600.jpg

[theken]

I owned a Z, they are hell to work on, shit breaks and is fucking expensive to fix, and the only way they look really good, is the way i had mine, 99 JDM bumper.
Your making a fierrari or whatever the hell they call the fiero ferrari monstrousity. people spend tonnes of cash to have something look kind of cool, but at the end of day its a fiero, or in your case a 300zx. Good on you for trying something new, but your beating a dead horse.

I can stick a 49 gmc pickup truck body on my s10 frame with s10 motor and s10 everything, it is still an s10, it looks like something else, but it is still an s10.

I would suggest taking the money you are thinking of investing into this idea and spend it on booze and hookers, you will get more in return, and people on here would respect you more. I would at least.

[tobypaddock]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
I dont rely on Z owner to make profits from

well i can promise you i will not be buying this kit for my Yukon... although it would probably fit as well as it does on your Z.




so....who are you going to rely on to buy this p.o.s?

[Kozikman]

stop feeding the troll

[rage2]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
Sounds great, I hope to have it on Robson street in 2 weeks and continually park it there during certain days. Being Vancouver's trendiest street, it would be the best place to advertise my website to buy my car.
This was parked on Robson yesterday afternoon, sure got a lot of attention.

http://celebratecanada.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/vancouver-125-tim-van-horn-copyright_11.jpg

You better be able to outdo him or your advertising tactic might backfire on you.

[Arash Boodagh]

I wonder what his price is to sell that car. :nut:


Originally posted by 97'Scort
So your entire business model is to make a body kit for a 300ZX that people will buy to put on their cars so they can sell it at an inflated price?

How much bud you been smoking, man? I would be doing this at the beginning and hopefully expanding if it catches on.



Originally posted by Idratherbsidewayz
I am absolutely stunned by how oblivious to the real world you are. Your naivety and lack of basic business knowledge apalls every one of my senses.
:facepalm: I've been wondering the cyber world aimlessly looking for someone to guide me. Please educate me with your great wisdom of basic business knowledge Idratherbsidewayz. :)


SlickA70, that car you posted looks like a shark :thumbsdow
http://www.michaelpitts.co.uk/misc/shark_front_page_1.jpg



Originally posted by theken
I owned a Z, they are hell to work on, shit breaks and is fucking expensive to fix, and the only way they look really good, is the way i had mine, 99 JDM bumper.
Your making a fierrari or whatever the hell they call the fiero ferrari monstrousity. people spend tonnes of cash to have something look kind of cool, but at the end of day its a fiero, or in your case a 300zx. Good on you for trying something new, but your beating a dead horse.

I can stick a 49 gmc pickup truck body on my s10 frame with s10 motor and s10 everything, it is still an s10, it looks like something else, but it is still an s10.

I would suggest taking the money you are thinking of investing into this idea and spend it on booze and hookers, you will get more in return, and people on here would respect you more. I would at least. Fiberglass is relatively cheap and so would this car when compared to any other exotic sports car.
If one finds a Z specialists, then you can just pay him to diagnose the problem and fix the car yourself. Ive done the high steering hoses and alternator fixes, it wasnt fun at all, but I recondited my hose for $50 and got a refurbished alternator for $160. Sure engine work will be expensive with labour and parts, but so will any sports car. You have to pay to play :D

[4lti]

After your attempt at sounding logical to my post...
Your going to be in for a rude awakening soon.

Im not surprised your unemployed.
Try focusing your energy in this project into maybe getting a job. A real Job. The mall 10$ an hour isnt a job aloso btw.

[tobypaddock]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
SlickA70, that car you posted looks like a shark :thumbsdow

yours is made of fucking newspaper :facepalm:

im curious as to how many countless hours you have wasted on this pipe dream? and how much $?

[97'Scort]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
I would be doing this at the beginning and hopefully expanding if it catches on.

See, this statement - right there, read it over slowly - is why it won't work. If you came on here and said: "Oh hai, I'm making this one-off body kit for my zed, what do you guys think?" You would have seen more of "I don't like it, but I'd like to see it when it's done" or "Neat project" or "Suxorz." Then, once you make it, maybe somebody wants to buy a kit and you go from there.

Instead, you've decided to come on here (and all these other sites) with ZERO product, ZERO apparent talent (judging by your "mock up" and badly photoshopped images and ripoff logos), and trying to upsell your non-existent product with easily the worst business model ever. How you can even remotely expect

a) some dumbass to buy your kit with the sole expectation of flipping a twenty year old car for big profit and
b) finding the sucker willing to pay for the finished car

based solely on what is a body kit, is insane. Like, you need to get your head examined kind of insane. All I can hope is that you don't bankrupt your poor dad with this stupid project. It's going to cost several thousand dollars to get even the prototype made, and at least another $20k just to get the moulds made for the master. I'm assuming you haven't thought that far in advance, though.

[FiveFreshFish]

Not much demand for a product that's labour-intensive to install and further depreciates a 20-year-old car.

[Arash Boodagh]

Im going to make how to videos and I estimate an amateur to transformation the car in less then a day.



Originally posted by tobypaddock


yours is made of fucking newspaper :facepalm:

im curious as to how many countless hours you have wasted on this pipe dream? and how much $? Ive lost count, Tobby you should really put on your glasses and recognize the superb curves Ive put on the Nissan Z. An ugly car made of the lightest of materials and the shiniest of paint jobs is still an ugly car.




Originally posted by 97'Scort


See, this statement - right there, read it over slowly - is why it won't work. If you came on here and said: "Oh hai, I'm making this one-off body kit for my zed, what do you guys think?" You would have seen more of "I don't like it, but I'd like to see it when it's done" or "Neat project" or "Suxorz." Then, once you make it, maybe somebody wants to buy a kit and you go from there.

Instead, you've decided to come on here (and all these other sites) with ZERO product, ZERO apparent talent (judging by your "mock up" and badly photoshopped images and ripoff logos), and trying to upsell your non-existent product with easily the worst business model ever. How you can even remotely expect


a) some dumbass to buy your kit with the sole expectation of flipping a twenty year old car for big profit and
b) finding the sucker willing to pay for the finished car

based solely on what is a body kit, is insane. Like, you need to get your head examined kind of insane. All I can hope is that you don't bankrupt your poor dad with this stupid project. It's going to cost several thousand dollars to get even the prototype made, and at least another $20k just to get the moulds made for the master. I'm assuming you haven't thought that far in advance, though. Im an honest broker what can I say... Im also 100% confident that making the fiberglass kits will nowhere come close to the prices your quoting, only if I make plastic kits or use other materials will I need complicated moulds.
The person that buys the finished car, will buy it because he appreciates the looks of the car. A person that buys the kit to flip it will do so after seeing my success.

[g-m]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
Your a disgrace to the title, automotive enthusiasts club.

Yes I remember you from your avatar, your a troll your self. Im making a revolutionary project and its ass hats like you that accuse people of trolling and put doubt in peoples minds and impede progress.

If anyone reads that thread (even though that site loads incredibly slow) you`ll see that I already made a prototype before and many progress details have been discussed already for me to get to where I am.

I stopped putting updates there because of the lack of respect with my name and all the trolls like g-m. The next time I post there will be when I have the kit for sale to make money. 33 pages say I'm right. Edit: Actually, no link because I wouldn't want to revive a dead troll thread.

[4lti]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
Im going to make how to videos and I estimate an amateur to transformation the car in less then a day.

Ive lost count, Tobby you should really put on your glasses and recognize the superb curves Ive put on the Nissan Z. An ugly car made of the lightest of materials and the shiniest of paint jobs is still an ugly car.

Im an honest broker what can I say... Im also 100% confident that making the fiberglass kits will nowhere come close to the prices your quoting, only if I make plastic kits or use other materials will I need complicated moulds.
The person that buys the finished car, will buy it because he appreciates the looks of the car. A person that buys the kit to flip it will do so after seeing my success.

Hahahahah Transform a whole cars entire body in a day?
What is this a outer shell your gonna drop on the car to hide all the rust and shit too?
A kit car that transforms in a day is going to look like... well your car. A shitty "built", rusty metal flapping, butchered thing.

"Supurb" is a terrible word for the lines you have placed on this car.
Your car looks like a torn up piece of junk. Place a kit on it, we all still know underneath is that torn up piece of junk.

I bet your car will sell for sure.
The only person who's going to take it is the kidney foundation.

[97'Scort]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
Im an honest broker what can I say... Im also 100% confident that making the fiberglass kits will nowhere come close to the prices your quoting, only if I make plastic kits or use other materials will I need complicated moulds.
The person that buys the finished car, will buy it because he appreciates the looks of the car. A person that buys the kit to flip it will do so after seeing my success.
If you want to lay fibreglass, how will you do so without moulds? Are you going to hand-lay each kit on a car, a process that would take weeks at a time? From what I've read you have no intention of doing the work yourself, so you'll have to pay somebody to do it.

I've BUILT fibreglass moulds. They're expensive, they're time consuming, and they're the only way to mass produce fibreglass items. There's no way to argue otherwise, that's just how it is. Here's an example:
http://www.nehrspeedcraft.com/mcc.html

I'd willingly bet that for a set of moulds to make a kit to cover the entire body of that car (front, rear, doors, hood) will easily run $20k. So unless you think you can make at least four times that in sales, it's not worth it.

I don't care if you are trolling, this is too fun.

[Arash Boodagh]

Originally posted by 4lti
Hahahahah Transform a whole cars entire body in a day?
What is this a outer shell your gonna drop on the car to hide all the rust and shit too?
A kit car that transforms in a day is going to look like... well your car. A shitty "built", rusty metal flapping, butchered thing. The Vigor will be a fiberglass shell and the only metal will be the brackets that bolt the headlights in place.


Originally posted by 4lti "Supurb" is a terrible word for the lines you have placed on this car.
Your car looks like a torn up piece of junk. Place a kit on it, we all still know underneath is that torn up piece of junk.

I bet your car will sell for sure.
The only person who's going to take it is the kidney foundation. [/B] Whats underneath is rust-less rear wheel 300zx with an effortless 200hp engine.




Originally posted by 97'Scort

If you want to lay fibreglass, how will you do so without moulds? Are you going to hand-lay each kit on a car, a process that would take weeks at a time? From what I've read you have no intention of doing the work yourself, so you'll have to pay somebody to do it. The steel car is the first master mold and with the small amount of fiberglass I plan on using, the curing should only take a couple days. I really want to be finished by the end of the month.



Originally posted by 97'Scort

I've BUILT fibreglass moulds. They're expensive, they're time consuming, and they're the only way to mass produce fibreglass items. There's no way to argue otherwise, that's just how it is. Here's an example:
http://www.nehrspeedcraft.com/mcc.html

I'd willingly bet that for a set of moulds to make a kit to cover the entire body of that car (front, rear, doors, hood) will easily run $20k. So unless you think you can make at least four times that in sales, it's not worth it.

I don't care if you are trolling, this is too fun. Thanks, Ill checkout the link, Im only doing partial panels and bolting them on. The white fenders in the video are made of fiberglass and it was pretty easy, but I dont have the right space to work with it.

[4lti]

The force is strong with this one.

Arash, you will succeed in this life and be wealthy.
A man with no logic, is a man with no worries.

You clearly have figured out your future. :thumbsup:

[potatopineapple]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh



If it doesnt sell, then I greatly underestimated the peoples want for a cool car.



Not that I'm trying to contribute the hate train. But of all your posts, have you ever received any positive feedback from anyone on this project? It should give you an indication of the type of success you can expect to come with this project. Its detested by fellow 300ZX enthusiasts and laughed at by casual observers. If you refuse to be deterred, atleast go back to the drawing board to come up with some new designs until you find one that actually looks good.

[Arash Boodagh]

Originally posted by potatopineapple
Not that I'm trying to contribute the hate train. But of all your posts, have you ever received any positive feedback from anyone on this project? It should give you an indication of the type of success you can expect to come with this project. Its detested by fellow 300ZX enthusiasts and laughed at by casual observers. If you refuse to be deterred, atleast go back to the drawing board to come up with some new designs until you find one that actually looks good.

haha, whats funny is that of all my threads, people criticize the Vigor, but rarely has anyone ever recommended a change to the design. I find people outside of the "car world" like the design but less then a handful of forum people kinda liked it..

I welcome members to photshopp new designs on the car.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2qlg6c9.jpg
ps, ive been working on a new rear mod design to round out the car but for now Im going to build the front only.

[Skyline_Addict]

stop feeding the troll please.

[Arash Boodagh]

Originally posted by Skyline_Addict
stop feeding the troll please. You think Im making it all up and the car video is just a prop?

[Kozikman]

it takes 5 minutes to chop up a crappy picture on MS paint and 10 minutes to tape cardboard to your car. No proof of any progress in any of the forums you posted this on. All you got is just a bunch of pointless posts defending your "project".

Stop posting and make the damn thing already. :whipped:

[Ashkente]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
What experience do you have in the business industry?
Nothing "professionally" I think common sense and my limbs will go a long way.


Quoted for lulz. My statement still stands for this guy being the new KING OF TROLLS. A multiboard epic trollfest?! /slowclap :rofl:

[97'Scort]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
The steel car is the first master mold and with the small amount of fiberglass I plan on using, the curing should only take a couple days.
You really don't know how to do fibreglass at all, do you? Zero idea.

You post pics of a finished product in 10 days (end of the month) and I'll come over to confirm it for Beyond.

[Arash Boodagh]

Sounds good


Originally posted by Ashkente


Quoted for lulz. My statement still stands for this guy being the new KING OF TROLLS. A multiboard epic trollfest?! /slowclap :rofl:
Your funny
here convinced now?
http://i49.tinypic.com/2u5dwli.jpg

[SlickA70]

OMG SICKKKk yaaallzz

How much downforce is applied after such extensive work? Or is that more of a brake cooling mod?

I means its not everyday you see someone with about zero autobody, let alone any apparent skills related to automobiles it seems make such a bad name for themselves, Across so many different forums aswell.

As a kid playing NFS I thought I had shit locked down about how to tune a car. How I can slap on a huge..uhm how did you put it again?

Oh yes:

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
spooling fan with blow valves and diffusing tail pipes.
Ahem, and be ready to spank exotics while chowing a donair.

Quit wasting your time with Boogerdah Enterprises (C), Get a job and do something productive man. I didnt work for like 6 months after high school and lost my mind having nothing to do.

I can tell its probabily been much, much longer for you but its not to late to buy a new fender and twin spooling fan that thing with the biggest diffusing tail pipes you can find.

[sr20s14zenki]

Nice cuts into the steel there....cant afford a grinder and zipdisk? So tell me, do you plan to sand it with a brick and paint it with a broom? :D

[Rat Fink]

geez the people in Pick'N'Pull don't even cut cars up that badly. LOL

[911fever]

Originally posted by Rat Fink
geez the people in Pick'N'Pull don't even cut cars up that badly. LOL

hahahaha no kidding this guy is a retard

[Ashkente]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
Sounds good


Your funny
here convinced now?
http://i49.tinypic.com/2u5dwli.jpg

Convinced of what? That you're the greatest troll of all time? Sure. But I didn't need a week old pic of a broken-ass fascia to tell me that.. :rofl:

[scat330]

Just caught up on this wonderful thread.

HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

[derran.m]

Can I have those 2 and a half minutes of my life back? What was that for? The pics showed me enough to be disgusted by it ... nvm making me sit thru 2.5 minutes, hoping something is gonna happen ...
:banghead:
:facepalm:

[n1zm0]

Originally posted by sr20s14zenki
Nice cuts into the steel there....cant afford a grinder and zipdisk? So tell me, do you plan to sand it with a brick and paint it with a broom? :D

yeah jebus, OP you could've at least put the effort in to buy a cheap die grinder instead of what looks to be cut out done by a hammer and a flathead screwdriver?

[Idratherbsidewayz]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
I've been wondering the cyber world aimlessly looking for someone to guide me. Please educate me with your great wisdom of basic business knowledge Idratherbsidewayz. :)

The only advice I can give you is: Quit. Quit now, please.

You will never make a dime with this business given your complete lack of manufacturing knowledge, zero experience with Fibreglass or composites of any kind, general lack of interested people, and terrible idea to begin with.

Like it's been said before, build this for yourself, realize how big a piece of crap it is/what an idiot you were for thinking you could sell it, and drive it off a cliff (hopefully while still inside!).

:thumbsup:

[Nissan_Fanboy]

http://www.urbantuning.com/miembros/khronus79-2517/albums/mazda-rx8-235/mazda-rx8-supercar-2123.jpg

NISSAN Vi... wait rx8 ?

[Disoblige]

I would have respected the amount of work you have done if the design was pulled off flawlessly, and no imperfections.

But holy shit.. Poor Z..

[davesparky6]

http://nlcast.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/bronze-car.jpg

Just because you can photoshop a 300zx, doesn't mean you can build it.

[TomcoPDR]

Originally posted by Arash Boodagh
Sounds good


Your funny
here convinced now?
http://i49.tinypic.com/2u5dwli.jpg

Believe in yourself OP, don't let anyone else tell you otherwise. You only get to live once, so I say good for you for building the project exotic of your dreams. Keep us updated with the progress of your work. :burnout:

[jonfoo]

ok dude, its pretty obvious that you don't have much creativity, obviously the car your "designing" is just slightly modified ideas that are already out there the real bad thing is that you already started hacking up your car

you are the KIA of the supercar world if you make this

[beyond_ban]

Originally posted by jonfoo
you are the KIA of the supercar world if you make this

I agree.... wait, what? Supercar world?

[jonfoo]

yeah he's right, your just KIA

[SJW]

Look i've modded my donair into a pizza. I'll make MILLIONS!!!

http://www.pizzashack.ca/images/full/donair.jpg