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spikerS
07-12-2010, 02:24 AM
Got back from the stampede today, and for the first time, that I know of, I got a counterfeit bill, only a $5 but I called a couple friends and they found 2 more $5 1x$10 and 1x$20.

They are not even good counterfeit bills, but to me at with a casual glance as I got it in change, i never suspected anything, until I made another purchase at a store with 2x$5 bills, and the lady made the remark that one was fake...

I kept it, just as kind of a collector's item for me, but I am glad it was only a $5 bill.

CHECK YOUR CHANGE ON THE GROUNDS!

/publicwarningsystem

Fake:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Snorakk/IMGP2978.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Snorakk/IMGP2979.jpg

Real:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Snorakk/IMGP2980.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a334/Snorakk/IMGP2981.jpg

vengie
07-12-2010, 02:49 AM
I could have sworn the early model of that $5 bill style did not originally have the metallic stripe on the left side? The shine coming off the maple leafs in your "fake" bill seems like itd be extremely hard to replicate. Hold it up to a light and see if it has the "Ghost" face?

FraserB
07-12-2010, 03:16 AM
The first bill appears to be genuine, the signatures are in the correct spots, the EURion constellation is present and the maple leaf picture is shiny. To verify it, hold it in front of you and tilt it, if the number 5 appears in the solid looking bar to the left of the picture, it is real. This issue of bill does not have the "ghost" in it. The "Bank of Canada" lettering, the coat of arms and the large number 5 should feel thicker as well.

davidI
07-12-2010, 04:13 AM
Wow, who counterfits Canadian bills!?

I got passed a fake US$100 through our office once. Ridiculous. It's pretty obvious that it's different from a real bill when compared side by side, but I'd give Americans the fake bill with a real bill, and half of them would choose the real bill as being the fake one.

harv91
07-12-2010, 04:30 AM
who the fuck would counterfeit a 5$ bill ahaha, for fucks sake, IF you are going to produce fake bills, might as well do 20$ bills, cuz 50's and 100's are usually checked

Hakkola
07-12-2010, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by vengie
I could have sworn the early model of that $5 bill style did not originally have the metallic stripe on the left side?

I was thinking the same thing and it would be too expensive to replicate $5 bills I think. Looks like the first bill is an 02 and the latter an 06.

JordanAndrew
07-12-2010, 05:17 AM
That's not a fake bill man, it's just an older bill like what others have mentioned already.

Pacman
07-12-2010, 08:10 AM
I'll give you $2 for the "fake" bill :D

911fever
07-12-2010, 08:24 AM
$2.50 for that 'fake' bill

masoncgy
07-12-2010, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by harv91
who the fuck would counterfeit a 5$ bill ahaha, for fucks sake, IF you are going to produce fake bills, might as well do 20$ bills, cuz 50's and 100's are usually checked

$5 bills are easy to pass off on to unsuspecting cashiers, etc as these people are trained to check $20s and everything up from there.

cdnsir
07-12-2010, 08:47 AM
Yea I'm not too sure about this. Those gold leaves on the top picture is really hard to replicate, but they all look pretty real on there.

Side note - Clean those pubes off your lens man!

sexualbanana
07-12-2010, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by vengie
I could have sworn the early model of that $5 bill style did not originally have the metallic stripe on the left side? The shine coming off the maple leafs in your "fake" bill seems like itd be extremely hard to replicate. Hold it up to a light and see if it has the "Ghost" face?

They don't.



Originally posted by masoncgy


$5 bills are easy to pass off on to unsuspecting cashiers, etc as these people are trained to check $20s and everything up from there.

It's also not worth the time and effort to the counterfeiter. To the counterfeiter, why waste good ink and paper (supposedly) on something that would be worth $5?

Kloubek
07-12-2010, 08:58 AM
^haha!

spikerS
07-12-2010, 09:26 AM
no, it really is fake. it does not have the 5 on it when you hold it to the light, and it is missing the watermark of the guys head when held to the light as well.

does not have any of the vertical security stripes either.

TYMSMNY
07-12-2010, 09:35 AM
The old ones didn't have any of those.... ;)

masoncgy
07-12-2010, 09:42 AM
Originally posted by sexualbanana
It's also not worth the time and effort to the counterfeiter. To the counterfeiter, why waste good ink and paper (supposedly) on something that would be worth $5?

I don't think that so called 'high end' counterfeiters would waste their time with $5 bills, but there are certainly individuals/groups that do make fake $5s.... otherwise they wouldn't be in circulation.

They're easy to pass off. I've seen plenty of examples of bad 5s over time... they're out there.

Just about every business teaches their staff to check and double check dominations of $20 and greater... that leaves a window of opportunity to pass bad 5s & 10s.

Pahnda
07-12-2010, 09:54 AM
Are you looking for the hidden 5 where it is located on the new bill? Also, it shouldn't have a head. It just looks like it is the 'original' $5 bill... You can't always trust the tellers at stores to be too competent.

Check the security features here:

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/counterfeit/5_cjs_secur.html

dj_rice
07-12-2010, 10:03 AM
Take it to the bank to confirm

Mitsu3000gt
07-12-2010, 10:16 AM
That looks like a real one to me, just one of the older 5's. Does it have raised ink? I would think that is pretty hard to replicate.

When I worked retail someone once tried to pay me in a $10 bill printed on toilet paper lol.

n1zm0
07-12-2010, 10:30 AM
the only real difference i can see is wilfred lauriers face is wider in the 'fake' one, or is it just because the bill is curled more?

spikerS
07-12-2010, 11:09 AM
I tried to get them both to lay as flat as possible. It does not have the raised brail in the corner either.

I dont want to take it to the bank, because if it IS fake, i want to keep it, and not surrender it.

Another thing that is missing is the small off color threads that are randomly in the bill as well.

sputnik
07-12-2010, 11:14 AM
Both bills are real.

The earlier bills (like the first one) have less anti-counterfeiting measure in them.

ryder_23
07-12-2010, 11:15 AM
They didn't have the brail either. I had this same situation where I worked years ago, confirmed it was real. And if it is fake, its illegal to keep it.

FraserB
07-12-2010, 11:16 AM
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/banknotes/counterfeit/5_cjs_secur.html

WRT counterfeiting low denomination bills, $20 and up are looked at by most cashiers, where a few $5's will get squared up and dumped in a till without a glance. Easier to pass $1000 in $5 than $1000 in $100

nonlinear
07-12-2010, 11:38 AM
guys, spikers really wants to believe this bill is fake, so stop trying to convince him it's real! he will be so disappointed! :nut:

403Gemini
07-12-2010, 12:06 PM
spikers, just goto the bank and see what they say. if it's legit and you tell them you've had issues using it, they'll just exchange it for a newer $5

n1zm0
07-12-2010, 12:10 PM
wait, doesnt the UV black light security feature seal the deal for real or fake? or are they counterfitting that too?

taemo
07-12-2010, 12:16 PM
quick google of some old 5$ bills

http://dmzsports.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/canada1.jpg

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/5bill.jpg

spikerS
07-12-2010, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by taemo
quick google of some old 5$ bills

http://dmzsports.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/canada1.jpg

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/5bill.jpg

well, that tears it, the bill looks exactly like that.

i guess that cashier was off.

Redwagon
07-12-2010, 12:27 PM
Great job on ruining spikers' fun guys :cry: He really wanted it to be a fake $5!

eglove
07-12-2010, 12:34 PM
Yea we had a bunch of "fake" bills at my work over the weekend. When I verified them this morning they were all of the first generation restyling bills.

poison
07-12-2010, 12:44 PM
http://img717.imageshack.us/img717/2744/queenp.jpg

boarderfatty
07-12-2010, 01:05 PM
With those bills they don't have alot of security features like the new $5 bills, they do have watermarks but in different locations. The easiest way to check if these bills are counterfit is to put them under a black light and "5" will appear in locations not visible in natural white light.

Also that is not brail in the top corners, if you look at every new bill, it will basically have the same bumps, they are dimples to assist machines in dispensing cash. I work at a bank and a blind person informed me that all divots between bills were the same and none of them said anything.

There are also 10's without that metallic strip I believe but there were very few, and most have been taken out of circulation.

If you have any doubts bring it to your local bank and they will be able to confirm.

hiway789
07-12-2010, 01:14 PM
The only thing that can bring this thread back from crap, is Spock.

http://bacon.frymybacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/fivedollarspock.jpg

http://ibackpackcanada.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/Spock-5-Dollar.jpg

bignerd
07-12-2010, 01:47 PM
All fake bills should be turned into a police station. They track counterfit activities. When I worked at the bank they would pick up the fake bills and I can't remember what he told us, small denominations were the asian gangs and larger bills were the Hells Angels or vice versa. Yes, people counterfit 5 dollar bills.

derpderp
07-13-2010, 09:55 AM
lol I put the serial number for the "fake" bill in whereswilly.com and it said it was a $5, 2002 series bill.

dandia89
08-13-2010, 10:12 PM
a police officer came into my work the other day and told us how we could find out if a bill is fake. he showed us some crazy fakes, which were almost impossible to tell

CKY
08-14-2010, 09:04 PM
I've been a bank teller for two years and I'm fairly certain that bill is real. Judging by the symmetry and over details, it is just the old $5 print, and the old $5 does not have the watermarked head when shone through a light. One easy thing to look for is just check out the micro-printing details of the bill. 90% of counterfeits will not be able to replicate the symmetry and minute details in the micro-printing.

Also, if you ever take a counterfeit to the bank it's their obligation to seize possession of all counterfeits. You WILL NOT get it back or get ANY compensation in return. If the bank ever does give you real cash back then they just laundered money.