My Jetta dash looks like a Christmas Tree!!!

[Skrilla]

Always soo many lights on the dash!!! Check engine/steering/exterior light etc etc..

Seriously I have never had a car with as many problems as this one...its a 2006 2.0T, bought it with 65k of the original owner who i knew...all maint. records etc included always looked after. All of a sudden after 70k it's one damn thing after another...started with ignition coil, then CV, then exhaust, CV again, boost leak issue, steering clunk, rest of the ignition coils...now engine light is on again!!

I love to drive the car, and when its running perfect it is one of my favorite cars, but those times are becoming few and far between....unfortunately at this time another car is not in the cards at least for another year.

Any other MKV owners have any similar issues....Sorry to rant but this is getting ridiculous :thumbsdow

[G-ZUS]

Welcome to the VW ownership club

[inline6turbo]

Word

:thumbsdow


Just take the bulbs out and live in denial like the rest of us :rofl:

[Skrilla]

Originally posted by inline6turbo
Word

:thumbsdow


Just take the bulbs out and live in denial like the rest of us :rofl:

:rofl: I like that idea!!

[Klobi-1-Kinobi]

Say what you will about vw's but I have yet to see a more robust check engine light in a car.

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by G-ZUS
Welcome to the VW ownership club
Word, get used to it. VW's are shit, seriously

Every one my family & friends have owned has been the exact same way; just one thing after the next. :rolleyes:

For this reason VW is one of the brands I'll never ever touch, no matter how good of a deal it may be. The guys at the end of my block are working on theirs incessantly, its crazy... :banghead:

Im amazed people buy them. I've only had one friend that bought a brand new GTI that hasn't had any problems with it. One out of 8-10 :facepalm:

[Jetta-2.0]

for this reson i sold my jetta :(

[BrknFngrs]

Sorry to hear man. When I was car shopping I drove a GTI and it absolutely blew me away but I couldn't bring myself to buy a VW because of all the stories like this that I've heard.

[Deetz]

I've always loved how many vw's looked drove and handled, but also know about all the little things...these would drive me crazy, and that is why i have never bought one in the past 20 years.

[S13_Ryan]

Originally posted by inline6turbo
Word

:thumbsdow


Just take the bulbs out and live in denial like the rest of us :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[sillysod]

Uh..... just get your car scanned with vagcom so you know what's wrong.

A lot of people are very ignorant with VW / Audi vehicles. Almost everything on these cars has a sensor (ie if your speaker blows it throws a fault)

A lot of the stuff may be nothing you care about, but a lot of times it is something simple to fix.

Just get it scaned and take it from there. Not necessarily a big deal.

[Pollywog]

After many years of experience in the automotive industry, I would never even consider buying a VW - fucking junk.

[Deetz]

Originally posted by sillysod

A lot of people are very ignorant with VW / Audi vehicles. Almost everything on these cars has a sensor (ie if your speaker blows it throws a fault)


Ignorant...? So you are saying people should give up reliable cars that i can buy, use for 6-8 years with no issues, no lights and go buy a vw or audi so i can constant dumby lights go off on the dash all the time....makes no sense :facepalm:

I've also been in the auto industry for a number of years and can't believe how bad the electronics are in those cars overall

[Disoblige]

Wow.. If this is happening all the way from old generation VWs to new gen, wonder why they don't just fix the issues instead of making damn sensors for everything..

What happened to "German Engineering"? :rofl:

[luxor]

Originally posted by Klobi-1-Kinobi
Say what you will about vw's but I have yet to see a more robust check engine light in a car.

That right there is the root of the problem. It's good to have your car auto-check itself every time you start it, but it also totally annoys the hell out of the user if the car uses unreliable parts that trips the light all the time. With that being said, I owned an Audi A4 once and that was the last time i would ever consider VW or Audi again. If it wasn't a check engine light, it was some other light, or the turbo would be blown, then low oil would flash occasionally, if it none of that then it would just crank and not start at all. Buy a VW or Audi if you don't mind your car sitting at the shop more than its on the road.

:banghead: :thumbsdow

[sillysod]

Most German cars give you a warning that things are starting to fail. So for example if your sunroof hasn't been lubricated in the last 2 years it will start pulling more current on the motor and throw a code.

I have had German cars for the last 10 years and most of them have made it well over 300,000kms with no problems. If you maintain them they last forever.

My neighbour has a 91 cavilier that is running on 3 cylinders and no lights. Does that mean it's awesome?


German cars are drivers cars generally you drive a German car, you ride in an american or japanese car.

[Deetz]

^^ you watch too many tv commercials

I have many awesome cars that i've buzzed 300k on them, you make it sound like only a couple brands can do it :drama:

[sillysod]

Commercials?

If you are semi-car savy and are capable of basic maintenance (ie oil changes and the scheduled maintenance) then German cars are fantastic.

If you just drive your car until something breaks then I strongly encourage a Japaneese car.

There is a reason why you see more Japaneese cars running around town blowing blue smoke than any other car. A honda will run no problem burning oil and coolant for km after km. Those cars are designed for people that use their cars up. A German car will throw a code and tell you to fix your car.

Not trying to get into a pissing match, but so many people buy these cars and then when they have problems wonder why? If you abuse and damage a German car it will tell you. If you do the same to a Japaneese car it will just burn oil.

[inline6turbo]

Well I'd rather have to top of the oil in my civic every week then replace faulty wiring, o2 sensors, cv axles, turbos and wheel speed sensors. Which, none by the way could have been prevented by "regular maintenance".

Just going by my personal experiences with my two GTIs.

Oh and i've owned a grand total of 35 cars and can say my vws have been the only ones to have consistent issues OTHER then my SL500 Mercedes which racked up more mileage on a flat deck then under it's own power. Funny, it's German too!

[maxtrbo93]

Any experience ive had with a VW has NOT been good whatsoever... i've come across blown turbos, wrecked sensors or dash lights that wont come off even after the problem is fixed and its been reset.

Id rather own a DSM... and I promised myself I'd never own a DSM again.

-0.02

[HeyKai]

Buy a Nissan

[Skrilla]

I understand what Sillysod is saying, however most of my issues are not because of "lack of maintenance" but like I said when the car is running right its amazing, just doesn't happen to often..

[Deetz]

Originally posted by Skrilla
however most of my issues are not because of "lack of maintenance" but like I said when the car is running right its amazing, just doesn't happen to often..

exactly my point, i feel for ya man :nut:

[Skrilla]

Originally posted by Deetz


exactly my point, i feel for ya man :nut:

Nice to have a support group :rofl:

[Jeremiah]

VW/Audi has a fucking sensor for everything

[spike98]

I've owned a VW for the last 5 years and not once have i seen a CEL.

Mom drives one. Girlfriend drives one. None of them have ever had any problems. :dunno:

I get into my car excited to drive. I step out of the car with a smile on my face. They are fantastic cars to drive.

Honda fanboys in here for sure

[Aleks]

If you want a reliable late model VW get a 2.5L one. Can't comapre a car with a 2.0T to something like a base Civic/Corolla.

[sillysod]

96 Passat TDI over 500,000kms nothing but brakes, timing belt etc.
03 VW Passat V6 currently 160,000kms same as above
04 Audi A4 currently 250,000kms radiator replaced and items above
98 BMW 540i 388,000kms vanos system service at 350,000

Not one of them required a tranny, axles, anything like that. I have a hard time believing that I am just a very lucky person.

My neighbour has a vw tdi that keeps going through turbos. He parks his car outside, starts it in -25 and immediately (blowing white smoke still) drives off to work. WHen its hot out he just comes home and turns his car off, never lets the turbo cool down.

Anyways maybe i am just very lucky, but I kind of think there has to be more to the story. VW is all over Europe and my family there doesn't seem to have problems with them either. Fiat on the other hand.....

[Pollywog]

Originally posted by spike98
I get into my car excited to drive. I step out of the car with a smile on my face.
http://www.pre2postproductions.com/smilies/gfight.gif

[sillysod]

Originally posted by Pollywog

http://www.pre2postproductions.com/smilies/gfight.gif



aaahahahah :rofl:

[Skrilla]

Originally posted by sillysod


Anyways maybe i am just very lucky, but I kind of think there has to be more to the story. VW is all over Europe and my family there doesn't seem to have problems with them either. Fiat on the other hand.....

unfortunately there is no "more" to the story. Car didn't get driven last winter so can't blame that. Every service pack has been done up to date religiously. My girl's parents have had 2 mkv's both were junk....guess there is always 2 sides to the story :dunno:

I see you love your VAG cars, so do I...just a pain in the ass, and judging by others in the thread it's old news.

[GTI1671]

I donno about you but my MKV is perfectly fine other than my APR Turboback throwing a code on me since I'm running on a Revo Stage 1.

[911fever]

:cry: both VW's my friends owned, a 01 Audi A4 and a 01 S4 were brutally unreliable. Stay away.

[D'z Nutz]

Originally posted by Pollywog

http://www.pre2postproductions.com/smilies/gfight.gif

HAHA fuck, I can't stop laughing at your avatar :rofl:

[max_boost]

Originally posted by Pollywog

http://www.pre2postproductions.com/smilies/gfight.gif



Originally posted by D'z Nutz


HAHA fuck, I can't stop laughing at your avatar :rofl:




:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by sillysod
96 Passat TDI over 500,000kms nothing but brakes, timing belt etc.
03 VW Passat V6 currently 160,000kms same as above
04 Audi A4 currently 250,000kms radiator replaced and items above
98 BMW 540i 388,000kms vanos system service at 350,000

Not one of them required a tranny, axles, anything like that. I have a hard time believing that I am just a very lucky person.

My neighbour has a vw tdi that keeps going through turbos. He parks his car outside, starts it in -25 and immediately (blowing white smoke still) drives off to work. WHen its hot out he just comes home and turns his car off, never lets the turbo cool down.

Anyways maybe i am just very lucky, but I kind of think there has to be more to the story. VW is all over Europe and my family there doesn't seem to have problems with them either. Fiat on the other hand.....

I have a hard time believing your serious.

-03 Jetta TDI, bought brand new. Incessant electrical system failures (EVERY THING went on it) many parts had to be replaced relating to the fuel system, again this was perfectly maintained. Finally after 70k of this we sold that shit heap. Worst handling car I've ever driven as well.

-2000 Jetta VR6 Dont even get me started.... as this would be a paragraph long. Everything from more electrical system failures to various faulty parts such as new rads that would spring leaks, among *countless* other problems, such as siezing hubs & brakes (etc etc etc). The car literally sat in the shop more then it was driven, not a word of a lie.

.....Then there are my neighbors cars that I wont even touch on, as that'll be twice as long as what this post already is. :nut: Im actually amazed they still hold jobs considering how many times their cars have left them stranded and unable to get to work.

VW quality to be sure. :thumbsup:

[nismodrifter]

http://www.ecstuning.com/product_library/28014/800/%22German%20Sign%20Language%22%20T-Shirt%20-%20Extra%20Large.jpg

[Onassis]

How is the new model GTI ?

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz


HAHA fuck, I can't stop laughing at your avatar :rofl:

Drop a "derp" in that avatar and it'll be perfect..... :D

[sillysod]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M


I have a hard time believing your serious.


VW quality to be sure. :thumbsup:

Not much I can do but take pic's of the odo's i guess haha.

In all honesty I am a little bit more retardedly anal than most other car people. I will rarely let someone drink coffee in the car. It is always in a heated garage and even at work it's in a heated shop. My cars don't sit outside unless I am at a hotel without underground parking.

I have never missed maintenance, and I follow it by the book. When it says to change plugs every 40,000kms I do it. Some things are stupid though. ie the "Fuel Filter for Life" in these cars. I still change mine with the plugs every 40,000kms and they are always full of crap.

Brake fluid, tranny, diff's and coolant flush every 100,000kms etc. I have my garage all setup like a shop so for me it is kind of fun and relatively easy.

Anyways so off topic. OP if you actually want to know whats going on PM me and if we can work out a time when you can meet me down in McKenzie Towne I will vagcom your car and let you know what is throwing the codes.

[msommers]

I bought a 1992 passat knowing it needed a few small things. I think I owned it for a total of 4 months, 3 of which were in the garage. I think I rebuilt almost the entire motor and it still needed some minor stuff when I sold it.

When it worked, fuck it was a good car. Heat was near instant, handling was nice and was solid on gas.

But ya, I doubt I'll ever buy a VW again unless it's an early 90's TDi. The engine is as simple as a lawn mower.

[BlueGoblin]

The problem with my MkIV was that about 5% of the car was cleverly designed to fail in ways that benefited the dealer:

-Non-turnable rear rotors which lasted 38,000 km
-Window clips which snapped after the first cold snap, dropping the window into the door
-Plastic water pump, which failed at 60,000km. Seriously - a plastic water pump?
-Turbo plumbing which seemed to always be failing until replaced by aftermarket stuff.

The minute it was off warranty -though it never really was because of all the 'goodwill' warranty stuff that kept cropping up- I stopped going anywhere near a dealer.

The shame of it all was that it was a lovely car to drive; it was comfortable, and fun and I enjoyed driving it immensely. That encapsulates the VW experience for me; I really loved driving it; I really hated owning it.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

In terms of cars, my family has owned 5 German vehicles, 2 American Vehicles, and 4 Japanese Vehicles.

2000 BMW 323ci - No major problems, regular maintenance, had a bushing blow out on the rear. 160000km

2002 Jetta 1.8T Wagon - Waterpump failure, regular maintenance, 120000km

2006 BMW 325i - Regular maintenance, 65000km

2007 BMW Z4M - Oil pan gasket failure, headlight washer failure, power steering hose failure, regular maintenance, has about 45000km as of now.

2010 BMW 135i - Just had its first oil change this week at 10000km, no issues to report so far.

1998 Ford Escort ZX-2 - Timing belt jumped a couple teeth at 140000km, but the belt had been changed at 110000km. Regular maintenance otherwise, no huge problems, owned the car for 1.5 years and 30000km.

1998 Jeep Cherokee - Ive driven this thing about 7000km so far. Did a bunch of front end work, couple engine seals, few minor things for maintenance, truck has 209000km now so its getting on in age and does need to be maintaned. Opened up the motor, top end looked really good for having that many km. Starting to get rusty :(

1988 Nissan Pathfinder - Regular maintenance, 120000km

1990 Honda Civic Si - Regular maintenance, 200000km

1992 Nissan 180SX - Have put 30000km on so far, new clutch, fluids, fuel pump, fpr, valve cover gasket.

1996 Nissan Pathfinder - Ate through rear bumpers for some reason, shocks failed prematurely, other than that regular maintenance, 120000km.

Overall I would say BMW has been least reliable for us, but still nothing super unreliable, the Jetta wasn't bad, but load that thing up and throw some bike on the roof and rip through rogers pass and you would struggle to get 15mpg.

[btimbit]

Originally posted by sillysod

My neighbour has a 91 cavilier that is running on 3 cylinders and no lights. Does that mean it's awesome?

Quote really sums it up.

The thing with german cars is you have to actually pay attention to them and treat them properly. If you just want something that you can dump the wrong fluids in and run into the ground, get a honda.

I've had four Jetta's and the only problem I've had with any of them was because I let my friend borrow it once and he filled it with Shell 87:banghead:

I'm not going to make the claim that VW's are very reliable cars just because I like them, because they can be the most finicky cars around. If you don't treat them right, they will chew up up and spit you out, usually on the side of the road. But if you do take the time to treat a VW right, in return you get one of the best drivers cars available.

[alloroc]

Originally posted by Disoblige
What happened to "German Engineering"? :rofl:

went up in smoke.

Google 'porsche fire' sometime.

[Kennyredline]

Originally posted by alloroc


went up in smoke.

Google 'porshe fire' sometime.
I did that, Google asked if I meant "porsChe fire........?":poosie:

[alloroc]

Originally posted by Kennyredline

I did that, Google asked if I meant "porsChe fire........?":poosie:

oops ... edited.

ould also be that my German keyboard is rapping out on me. I think the " " is broken.

[atgilchrist]

VWs have alwys treated my family well. I learned on a 94 Jetta that was treated like ass, and it ran with almost no problems to 300,000km. My mom had a MKIV 1.8T GTI, and besides burning oil, was super reliable.

My MKVI has been perfect so far, but I only have 9000km on it.

My Nissan Murano was so brutal wrt reliability that the payments on my GTI are actually less expensive than the constant repair bills were on the Nissan. In one year I had to do brakes, exhaust, CV boots, rear suspension, battery, transmission, front suspension, sway bars. I then sold the fucking thing.

So I like my VWs.

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by sillysod


Not much I can do but take pic's of the odo's i guess haha.

Sure, while your at it do you want me to take pics of my brothers '95 F250 with over a million KM's on it, or my old '84 S10 with 917k on it? Or how about my '99 Saturn SL2 (winter car) with 300k on the clock, also bought new that has still yet to break down once?
:rolleyes:
VW FTW to be sure :thumbsup:

[sillysod]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M


Sure, while your at it do you want me to take pics of my brothers '95 F250 with over a million KM's on it, or my old '84 S10 with 917k on it? Or how about my '99 Saturn SL2 (winter car) with 300k on the clock, also bought new that has still yet to break down once?
:rolleyes:
VW FTW to be sure :thumbsup:

??? What does that have to do with anything ???

I didn't realize that this thread was about getting insane mileage out of all sorts of vehicles. In that case my WesternStar wins with over 4,000,000 kms. :banghead:

All I was suggesting is that VAG cars are capable of doing high mileage with out falling apart (as suggested by a lof of the people in this thread) and my cars have been trouble free for many km's.

Not sure what a S10 has to do with it but it is kinda cool.

[CapnCrunch]

How are people still unaware of how shitty VW has been for the last 15 years?

[Mitsu3000gt]

I currently know 4 people with Jettas/Golfs and none have had a single problem over many years (most are 4-6 years old now). I think it's a mixture of luck of the draw and routine maintenance. Everyone has a different experience. Some people will never buy Chevys, some will never buy VW's, it's all the same in the end IMO. The conclusion people are quick to come to though, is that if they owned one or two of a particular brand and they caused them trouble, they assume all of brand X is junk when that is rarely the case. There are owners of every brand of car with an obscene amount of KMs on it, nothing special about those sort of comparisons IMO.

I owned a modified B5 S4 for a couple of years which to people who don't treat them properly can cause many problems and are not known for their reliability. I didn't have a single problem outside of routine maintenance the whole time I owned it. All I had to do was not drive like a retard, and about $40 of preventative maintenance.

Also I own a VCDS (VAG-COM) so if anyone needs their VW/AUDI cars scanned I can try help you figure out what's wrong if you have a CEL or whatever.

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by sillysod


??? What does that have to do with anything ???


Proof that it doesn't take much to outlast a VW. :dunno:

Im not here to start a pissing match, but like my old Z4, I found anything German to be far from cheap to own & maintain. As far as personal experience is concerned, I've yet to own or know anybody that owns a german car that has had luck with it.