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By ROB GILLIES
The Associated Press
Wednesday, August 11, 2010; 7:32 PM

TORONTO -- Canadian authorities said Wednesday that they will intercept a ship of asylum seekers from Sri Lanka before it reaches the coast because the passengers may include people Canada considers terrorists.

The ship is reported to be within 200 miles (322 kilometers) of Canada's Pacific coast province of British Columbia, said Chris McCluskey, a spokesman for Public Safety Minister Vic Toews.

He said the ship would be intercepted.

The Thai cargo ship MV Sun Sea is expected to reach the Strait of Juan de Fuca off Vancouver island late Thursday or early Friday. Between 400 and 500 people are believed to be on board.

McCluskey says every one will be scrutinized.

Toews had said Monday there was reason to believe members of the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam, or Tamil Tigers, are on board. Canada has labeled the Tamil Tigers as a terrorist group since 2006.

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[Xtrema]

Do they have refugee status? If not, tow them back out to sea.

[01RedDX]

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[n1zm0]

it looks like the 'scrutinized' part means they'll process some for refugee status.

but theres more to this story: the POS manning this ship has already done this before and is an identified member of the LTTE:



Prof. Rohan Gunaratna, an international terrorism expert and head of Singapore's International Centre for Political Violence and Terrorism Research, said the MV Sun Sea — earlier known as Harin Panich 19 — is captained by a Sri Lankan Sea Tiger leader and manned by a 24-member crew.

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Thailand Navy sea patrols spotted MV Sun Sea, a vessel previously used for gun running, near the Exclusive Economic Zone of the country in April.

When the sailors tried to intercept the unidentified vessel, 'Captain Vinod' threatened that several illegal immigrants would throw themselves overboard if anyone tried to board his ship, Gunaratna said.

"Yes, there are a few dozen LTTE (Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) leaders, members and helpers on board MV Sun Sea. For instance, the captain of the ship, Vinod, was earlier engaged in smuggling several thousand tons of arms, ammunition and explosives from North Korea to Sri Lanka, " he said in an interview with the Sri Lanka Sunday Observer.

Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/news/Tamil+migrant+ship+captained+Lankan+Tiger+leader+Terrorism+expert/3387379/story.html?cid=megadrop_story#ixzz0wLnUz7f0



http://www.theprovince.com/news/Tamil+migrant+ship+captained+Lankan+Tiger+leader+Terrorism+expert/3387379/story.html?cid=megadrop_story

basically forcefully threatening the lives of these 'refugees' for them to enter Canada and do who knows wtf and Canada being Canada will probably let them stay...

[97'Scort]

Dammit, why do they always have to come to my city? You want to go to Toronto anyways, go sail up the St. Lawrence.

[calgary403]

Originally posted by 97'Scort
Dammit, why do they always have to come to my city? You want to go to Toronto anyways, go sail up the St. Lawrence.

No no no we don't want any of them hopping off in Montreal. Vancouver is just fine. :rofl: :rofl:

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by calgary403


No no no we don't want any of them hopping off in Montreal. Vancouver is just fine. :rofl: :rofl:

They should all be sent to Yellowknife and has to report to local immigration officers every week for 3 years.

[kaput]

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[97'Scort]

I wouldn't mind if they went to Vancouver. Thing is, they get routed to Victoria, same as last time. Then, all of us taxpayers have to pay a bunch for them to be fed, clothed, examined, housed, AND shipped across to the mainland on CHARTER BUSES. FUCK.

[Modelexis]

[i]because the passengers may include people Canada considers terrorists.[/B]

Who does 'Canada' consider terrorists?
Who is this Canada fellow, and what gave him the right to speak for an entire nation of individuals?

[C_Dave45]

Pffft....I thought we were getting new Tigers for the zoo's.

[masoncgy]

^ :rofl:

At any rate, this whole thing is ridiculous. If we don't take a stand and ship these losers back home, we're going to be completely overrun by them.

We can't even take care of our nation's most vulnerable... the people already here... yet we somehow have magical funds to look after these line jumpers?

Fuck that.


Originally posted by Modelexis
Who does 'Canada' consider terrorists?
Who is this Canada fellow, and what gave him the right to speak for an entire nation of individuals?

:rolleyes: :facepalm:

[Sugarphreak]

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[Idratherbsidewayz]

Navy combat exercise!!!

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by 97'Scort
I wouldn't mind if they went to Vancouver. Thing is, they get routed to Victoria, same as last time. Then, all of us taxpayers have to pay a bunch for them to be fed, clothed, examined, housed, AND shipped across to the mainland on CHARTER BUSES. FUCK.

I have no problem with that if they are legitimate refugee. Most 1st gen viet in North America got here that way. But if they don't have refugee status and it's just a convenient way for Tamil Tigers to regroup in Canada. GTFO. I don't need to see ethnic violence on our streets and any of their lame protests.

[masoncgy]

Originally posted by Xtrema
I have no problem with that if they are legitimate refugee.

There are legitimate refugees going through the proper channels... these folk should be no exception.

We can't take care of our own welfare cases in this country... why do we need more?

[turk99]

On the news last night, someone involved in these types of situations commented that there are usually criminals / radicals on these boats. The liberal interviewer grilled him and then went into denial about it!

At least the Conservs have a no nonsense approach to these situations.

[Sugarphreak]

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[Antonito]

Originally posted by Sugarphreak


Totally agree,

This is compounded by the fact that if the world starts thinking we just accept refugees by the boat load like this, you can expect there are going to be hundreds of boats setting sail from all corners of the earth.
It'll be like the 1800s all over again

[Antonito]

Originally posted by 97'Scort
I wouldn't mind if they went to Vancouver. Thing is, they get routed to Victoria, same as last time. Then, all of us taxpayers have to pay a bunch for them to be fed, clothed, examined, housed, AND shipped across to the mainland on CHARTER BUSES. FUCK. Doesn't this fall under CIS and therefore it's federal money?

[Godfuader]

Originally posted by kaput
Send 'em to Edmonton, they'll be begging to get back on the boat :D

Originally posted by C_Dave45
Pffft....I thought we were getting new Tigers for the zoo's.


:rofl: :rofl:

[Cos]

So when traveling home from the us, instead of sitting in line at peace arch I should grab a boat and unannounced sail towards Canada, with a few NRA friends so I can be fed and taken care of for a week or two in Victoria on the water. Sounds like a cheap vacation.

I am sure some of these people need help but when can you enter our country without prior approval. Just by screaming refugee? I wonder how man of us actually understand the whole situation over there and how many of them take advantage of us because of it.

[97'Scort]

Originally posted by Antonito
Doesn't this fall under CIS and therefore it's federal money?
Federal, provincial, who cares. It's all coming out of the taxpayers' pockets.

There ARE legitimate refugees on the ship with women and children. Canada is legally required to take in and provide care for refugees as part of their UN mandate.

What I hate is the criminals who throw a couple of refugees on their boat to make it look like they're all fleeing oppression when really they are just here to regroup. We know that, they know that, but we're going to do fuck all about it. In the meantime, they're going to start killing each other over stupid grudges and we all get dragged into it again.

Let the women and children stay, and send the rest back. Maybe they'll figure it out then.

[kamakurakid]

Send them all back to their homeland, all of them. Jumping a line is not acceptable to get into Canada, unless some of them can suit up for an NHL team. No puck experience, no luck.

Take the expenses out of the funds given to Sri Lanka as development aid. CIDA has given more than $52 million since 2008 to this country, not including 2010 donations.

http://www.acdi-cida.gc.ca/srilanka-e

Notice they did not sail into USA waters... gee wonder why.

[jutes]

Canada is getting too soft on immigration, hell Vancouver is getting bad as it is.

Time to drop a JDAM on that boat and say it sank in rough seas.

[revelations]

Here is what the people in Oz do with illegal immigrants...


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.... jk.... it was a North Korean drug smuggling ship that was busted by the Oz navy.

[ZenOps]

Hmm... I don't think they are Tamil "Tigers"

More than likely Tamil refugees. If you are capable of running drugs, weapons, and humans - you probably aren't on a boatload of people trying to sneak into Canada.

A Tiger - would probably be using a personal helicopter or an airplane. IE: Osama would not be coming to Canada on a boat, hes got about $300 million dollars - most of it very liquid in case he needs to run.

[codetrap]

They just landed according to Global TV. They're getting routed to a military base where they're going to receive medical attention and get screened.

[derpderp]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/tamil-migrant-ship-docks-in-bc/article1671766/

I think it is going to be a big mistake for the Canadian government to let them in, even the painfully liberal commenters on the G&M are all screaming for the ship to be turned right back around.

I'll be really upset if they don't turn it around. Pretty much at this point the Government is just saying, hey you can't sneak into Canada, but if you do manage to make it past to land, then you're allowed to stay. This isn't a game.

This one made me laugh.


We must be the most stupid nation on earth, Australia sent out their navy and told them to leave, they come to Canada and we send our navy to escort them to Canada. Then we provide them with lawyers who we pay for to make sure they get to stay here. In the mean time we put them up in nice accomodations, pay to feed them and their health care. No wonder they all line up to come here.

[Kennyredline]

Originally posted by kaput
Send 'em to Edmonton, they'll be begging to get back on the boat :D
This, and hopefully, word will get around back home about how it smelled even worse than where they came from!!:rofl:
edit: and that would be saying something, considering the fact there are 400-500 people on that boat, and it's been at sea for months!:barf:

[Teknix]

Originally posted by kaput
Send 'em to Edmonton, they'll be begging to get back on the boat :D

:rofl::rofl:


Looks like East-Hastings is gonna get a little more crowded with poverty.

[revelations]

Could someone enlighten me as to who it is that makes the decision not to intercept and turn around these illegal immigrants well offshore ?

Perhaps provide them with food and fuel... and send them back.

[ZenOps]

You can't intercept them before they enter Canadian waters.

They might be going to Alaska or maybe even Hawaii.

Canadian waters used to be only 12 miles out, they extended it to 200 miles unofficially along with the US sometime around the 1950's.

These boats do not move fast. Voyages can take weeks if not months. They can be floating just outside of Canadian waters for many days.

Which is one of the reasons why we don't need F-35 fighters to intercept boat traffic of this type.

"The vessel left England on September 6, 1620 (Old Style)/September 16 (New Style),[2] and after a grueling 66-day journey marked by disease, which claimed two lives, the ship dropped anchor inside the hook tip of Cape Cod (Provincetown Harbor) on November 11/November 21." - The original voyage of the Mayflower, at the time the most expensive and only means of colony transport to America from Britain.

[DJ_NAV]

"Sri Lanka's high commissioner to Canada, Chitranganee Wagiswara, said that money would go toward to the Tamil Tigers and chided the federal government for not turning the ship away.

Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/08/13/bc-tamil-ship-migrants-esquimalt.html#ixzz0wVhi4BQ7"

HELLO??
the HC from Sri Lanka is straight up saying that do not let them in.... and why do we even consider??:banghead:

[jutes]

Originally posted by ZenOps

Which is one of the reasons why we don't need F-35 fighters to intercept boat traffic of this type.

Which is why we don't use fighter jets to intercept boat traffic. :facepalm:

[ZenOps]

Well, what are we goint to use F-35s for? To intercept SLBM's flying at mach 15? Ain't gonna happen, even with a billion dollar mach 2 fighter.

There is only one practical use for them, to shoot down a handful of TU-90 or TU-135 bombers? Other than personelle transport, nothing important (including nukes) are put into planes anymore.

It was a three month journey for these people, they are suggesting they were orginally sailing to Austrailia, but changed their minds.

Edit: If you want the conspiracy theory, Canada is beefing up their fighter jets with F-35 to shoot down commercial airplanes.. That is domestic commercial airplanes that have been hijacked. It still doesn't solve the problem of what makes a person want to hijack a plane in the first place, just like it doesn't solve the problem of a random person walking in the street knocking another person with a baseball bat.

Y'know, like Rob Anders with a baseball bat swinging at black people but hitting everyone - pull that trigger baby.

[Vanner]

It's pathetic how Canada decide to be soft on the refugees by providing them food, medical care and housing. That is coming from OUR taxes! These Tamil tigers - whoever they are- knew about that and they willingly MADE the native refugees PAY them for the transport to escape out of their country. It's said that some refugees had to pay as much up to $45,000 for that trip!

That's crazy... Canada need to smart up and change rules so it doesn't happen again. Just hand them some fuel and food and ORDER them to leave away from shores (of Canada). Sure, I can understand how we are compassionate by our nature but .. come on, there's a limit there!

Really, whatever happen to their native country isn't our problem! I, for sure, don't need to open door for EVERY refugee from all over world... come like begging dogs at our feet! :nut:

[ZEDGE]

If the boats were turned around the 300 thousand plus Tamils in Toronto would have likely gone on a rampage. Open the flood gates as there will be more ships on the way, guaranteed. Its amazing what fear can accomplish. Disgusting.

[CUG]

Originally posted by ZenOps

"The vessel left England on September 6, 1620 (Old Style)/September 16 (New Style),[2] and after a grueling 66-day journey marked by disease, which claimed two lives, the ship dropped anchor inside the hook tip of Cape Cod (Provincetown Harbor) on November 11/November 21." - The original voyage of the Mayflower, at the time the most expensive and only means of colony transport to America from Britain.

I'm only making an observation here, but if I'm not mistaken, it's 2010 right now, not 1620. If you were unable to make that connection.... I can't even.. wow.