High girl gang raped, pix put on facebook.

[sillysod]

Apparently she got wasted and somebody took pics and now they are viral.


Linky Link (http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/09/15/bc-pitt-meadows-rave-assault.html)

[se7en]

links to said pictures?

[JfuckinC]

Tha's so low end. What losers. :thumbsdow

[illtim3d]

Originally posted by se7en
links to said pictures?

shes 16 . grow up buddy:facepalm:

[GOnSHO]

Originally posted by illtim3d


shes 16 . grow up buddy:facepalm:

someone was gonna say .. might as well have been him

[dandia89]

Maybe he's into seeing tons of naked dudes

[bignerd]

Wonder what she was high on that made her so incapacitated?

[beyond_ban]

^ My guess would be GHB.

[se7en]

Geez. No one caught my sarcasm. But ok. Bring on the dudes :)

[slinkie]

i'm sure she was initially DTF in her altered state and is now crying rape, I have 0 sympathy for a kid like this. it was her own choice to go to a rave and take enough of (whatever she took) to severely impair her own judgement.

GHB gets a bad rap as a date rape drug but is widely used recreationally especially at raves.

Why would any of the alleged 'rapists' take pictures in the first place or post them online for that matter if the sex was not consensual, and anyway they were probably just as tweaked out of their minds as she was.

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by slinkie
i'm sure she was initially DTF in her altered state and is now crying rape, I have 0 sympathy for a kid like this. it was her own choice to go to a rave and take enough of (whatever she took) to severely impair her own judgement.

Why would any of the alleged 'rapists' take pictures in the first place or post them online for that matter if the sex was not consensual, and anyway they were probably just as tweaked out of their minds as she was.

In other articles, the police reported she has “significant injuries”, that doesn't usually suggest "DTF" to me. And the kid taking the photo's wasn't part of the rape, he was just one of the many people watching for fun.

Don't kid yourself on this one, she wasn't willing. Probably passed out, or so high she wasn't screaming, so that's why no one stopped it.

[slinkie]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok


In other articles, the police reported she has “significant injuries”, that doesn't usually suggest "DTF" to me. And the kid taking the photo's wasn't part of the rape, he was just one of the many people watching for fun.

Don't kid yourself on this one, she wasn't willing. Probably passed out, or so high she wasn't screaming, so that's why no one stopped it.

Anyone will look like they were raped after drug induced sex in a field with 6+ people , however in my opinion it really is partly her own fault for putting herself in that situation in the first place. I highly doubt anyone dosed her. not absolving the guys in any way obviously either.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by slinkie
Why would any of the alleged 'rapists' take pictures in the first place or post them online for that matter if the sex was not consensual, and anyway they were probably just as tweaked out of their minds as she was.

It didn't start out online. I believe it was first distributed with SMS and on all cell phones in school before it got on facebook.

The kid arrested wasn't one of the rapists. He only got charged with child porn so far as all the pics/vids originated from his phone. I'm sure cops did that to stop the media from spreading.

[slinkie]

I see, that makes more sense, that was not mentioned in the linked article

[Sugarphreak]

...

[Anomaly]

5 out of 6 people enjoy gang rape?

:dunno:

[Xtrema]

Update, another arrested.

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/09/17/bc-gang-rape-high-school-police.html

[Pacman]

Originally posted by slinkie
i'm sure she was initially DTF in her altered state

Would you mind defining what DTF means.

It would help out us old codgers who don't take GHB, ecstacy and hang out at raves feeling the love while watching a bunch of sweaty dudes dancing and hugging one another.

Thanks
Pac

[Xtrema]

DTF - Down To Fuck.

[GOnSHO]

edit: beat me to it

[Sykes]

Reading that honestly makes me a little sick... :(

[slinkie]

Yeah i am a big fan of "taking GHB, ecstacy and hang out at raves feeling the love while watching a bunch of sweaty dudes dancing and hugging one another" :rolleyes: pretty much consmues all my weeknights

[GoChris]

DTF

dumbest acronym ever

[dandia89]

Originally posted by GoChris
DTF

dumbest acronym ever
brb watching jersey shore

[911fever]

:thumbsdow :thumbsdow awful society we live in.

[autosm]

Originally posted by slinkie
i'm sure she was initially DTF in her altered state and is now crying rape, I have 0 sympathy for a kid like this. it was her own choice to go to a rave and take enough of (whatever she took) to severely impair her own judgement.

GHB gets a bad rap as a date rape drug but is widely used recreationally especially at raves.

Why would any of the alleged 'rapists' take pictures in the first place or post them online for that matter if the sex was not consensual, and anyway they were probably just as tweaked out of their minds as she was.



So this makes it ok for 6-7 men to have sex with her? Sounds like you think because she could not say no the answer was yes?

Wow that’s pretty fucked up dude. I guess you don’t have a sister or daughter that’s ever been out drinking?

I really don’t think a 16 year old can consent to a gang rape that is being filmed. So most human beings would assume the answer is no. wasted or not these guys will be in a boat load of shit.

Hope these sub humans enjoy a last weekend of freedom before they are arrested.


Reminds me of a story in Edmonton where a woman was drugged assaulted and dumped in an alley ½ naked in minus 20 weather . When she was found barely alive she was frozen to the ground.

[David Ginola]

No sympathy for this girl. Sixteen is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. Don't put yourself into a situation like this and this kind of thing doesn't happen. Now, if she had been walking down the street in broad daylight, of course I would be outraged.

[banned3x]

where the hell are the gernades? c4's?

[B20EF]

Originally posted by David Ginola
No sympathy for this girl. Sixteen is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. Don't put yourself into a situation like this and this kind of thing doesn't happen. Now, if she had been walking down the street in broad daylight, of course I would be outraged.

Do you know what GHB does to a person. She was so incapacitated she can not consent. Do you have sex with your girlfriend when she's passed out drunk. I sure dont, never mind a random girl.

[Neil4Speed]

Originally posted by David Ginola
No sympathy for this girl. Sixteen is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. Don't put yourself into a situation like this and this kind of thing doesn't happen. Now, if she had been walking down the street in broad daylight, of course I would be outraged.

I am having trouble comprehending the world-class stupidity of your post, your saying that if you are a girl going to a rave you should expect that you will be raped and/or that rape is an acceptable act to engage in if your are in the context of a rave/house party.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by David Ginola
No sympathy for this girl. Sixteen is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. Don't put yourself into a situation like this and this kind of thing doesn't happen. Now, if she had been walking down the street in broad daylight, of course I would be outraged.

Although rave usually is associated with drugs, without knowing she willing took GHB or simply got slipped something unknown to her, it's rather insensitive to assume she deserved what she got.

[frizzlefry]

Originally posted by David Ginola
No sympathy for this girl. Sixteen is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. Don't put yourself into a situation like this and this kind of thing doesn't happen. Now, if she had been walking down the street in broad daylight, of course I would be outraged.

Going to a party is not wrong. The whole idea behind GHB is that the person you are giving it to does not know. Obvously the crowd at the party were losers but thats not her fault.

And 16 year olds, generally, don't know shit. Especially when they are drugged. I have been to raves before (not my cup of tea, drink beer while everyone is on X is not all that fun) but my general observation is that people on X tend to be really, really annoying....but they don't turn into raping gangbangers. The only relation to drugs here is the GHB they slipped her.

[slinkie]

Originally posted by autosm

So this makes it ok for 6-7 men to have sex with her? Sounds like you think because she could not say no the answer was yes?

Don't put words in my mouth,
Originally posted by slinkie

not absolving the guys in any way obviously either.

However look at what just recently happened in calgary last week, a TWELVE year old consented to sex via facebook and was also drinking etc, and hooking up in a park surrounded by other children watching. And now this, headlines like this really depess me

It's 2010 and for young girls (and guys) sexuality is being encouraged more than ever before in recent history, obviously I am not trying to support the alleged rapists, its a bad situation all around.

But she is 16 I doubt her parents even knew she was at some unsupervised 'rave party' in a barn or whatever, what I see as the most likely scenario is she took god knows what kind of drug willingly, got herself into this situation, it got out of hand and afterwards thinking 'what have i done' she tries to shift all the blame to the guys to save face with her parents etc


No sympathy for this girl. Sixteen is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. Don't put yourself into a situation like this and this kind of thing doesn't happen. Now, if she had been walking down the street in broad daylight, of course I would be outraged.
+1

however IF SHE WAS IN FACT slipped something then obviously the above does not apply.

[Guillermo]

She probably took the GHB on purpose. When I was going to raves in the mid-90s, everyone was drinking that shit (me included). But whether she took it willingly or not, those dudes still raped her.

[se7en]

she deserved it. chicks have butt's and boobs for a reason.

[Kloubek]

Who gives a shit whether or not she took the drug willingly. (Though if it was GHB it was probably not voluntary). Either way, it doesn't give someone a free ticket to ride as they wish.

David, you're a fucking idiot. Pure and simple. Your tunnel vision is astonishing.

[n1zm0]

Originally posted by David Ginola
No sympathy for this girl. Sixteen is old enough to know the difference between right and wrong. Don't put yourself into a situation like this and this kind of thing doesn't happen. Now, if she had been walking down the street in broad daylight, of course I would be outraged.

what, are you living under a rock or youre probably elderly 40 + to not know about date rape drugs, GHB is probably the 1 out of 2 drugs that are classified as the most common DATE RAPE drug, the other being rohypnol


Originally posted by B20EF
Do you know what GHB does to a person. She was so incapacitated she can not consent.

:werd: i had a friend in HS got slipped GHB into her drink at the club by some guy hitting on her, asked to goto the washroom cause she was feeling disoriented and thankfully another chick had taken care of her (couldnt even stand at ALL), she was never a heavy drinker and when she said she had a swig of her FIRST beer of the night with this guy then felt fked up we all knew, by the time about 10 of us gathered to confront him, the balding late 30 y/o perv grabbed his jacket and bolted out the emergency exit with us not far behind - started running! like forrest gump style, needless to say this shit does happen, its used by old perv men (and obviously little shits too) to get into girl's pants cause they have no chance at it in the first place... i.e rapists

[A3GTiVR6SC]

CBUhA6wD9W0

[Sugarphreak]

....

[captain134]

The people saying it is her fault have got to be joking or trolling. The only type of person who would think that way would be the type of people who committed the rape.

Even if she did willingly take the drugs and planned to pass out naked she should not expect something like that to happen. Last time I checked we were human beings not animals.

I have been at parties where girls have been so hammered that they were semi - conscious and yet trying to take their clothes off. We did not gang rape them! We would find them an empty bed/couch and let them pass out.

Fucked up world.

[chrispl]

Originally posted by banned3x
where the hell are the gernades? c4's?

you mean grandmas?

[M.alex]

Originally posted by illtim3d


shes 16 . grow up buddy:facepalm:

16 is legal in Alberta?

[Dumbass17]

Originally posted by Anomaly
5 out of 6 people enjoy gang rape?

:dunno:

wow, you're going to hell

but i lol'd

[David Ginola]

I'm not saying the girl deserved to get raped. What I'm saying is that she is guilty of putting herself into a bad situation by attending a rave party where people were drinking and doing drugs. Don't give me the "she's only a kid" argument. Sixteen is not a kid in my opinion.

[n1zm0]

Originally posted by David Ginola
I'm not saying the girl deserved to get raped. What I'm saying is that she is guilty of putting herself into a bad situation by attending a rave party where people were drinking and doing drugs. Don't give me the "she's only a kid" argument. Sixteen is not a kid in my opinion.

I agree that 'only a kid' is a poor rebuttal to what happened, heck a 12 year old girl is 'only a kid' but chose to meet some kid in a school parking lot from facebook to have sex.

But You can get date raped slipped at a club, bar, pool hall, stampede, house party, fken boston pizza lounge ffs, you expect all those ppl who do that on a daily and yearly basis to not 'put themselves into a bad situation' everytime they go out? The culprits are always the ones who thought it'd be a good idea to just go ahead and have sex with an unconscious girl. When you hear the stories of those dentists an doctors who put female patients under and they grope/fondle them
while they're drugged up, is the woman the slut cause she decided to go with the sleep dentistry route?

[Scuderia]

Originally posted by n1zm0


I agree that 'only a kid' is a poor rebuttal to what happened, heck a 12 year old girl is 'only a kid' but chose to meet some kid in a school parking lot from facebook to have sex.

But You can get date raped slipped at a club, bar, pool hall, stampede, house party, fken boston pizza lounge ffs, you expect all those ppl who do that on a daily and yearly basis to not 'put themselves into a bad situation' everytime they go out? The culprits are always the ones who thought it'd be a good idea to just go ahead and have sex with an unconscious girl. When you hear the stories of those dentists an doctors who put female patients under and they grope/fondle them
while they're drugged up, is the woman the slut cause she decided to go with the sleep dentistry route?

I think going to the dentist is a little different than going to a rave on the Pickton farm brotha... I get what you're saying, pervs and rapists can attack anywhere, but even if you use the logic of a mentally disabled monkey, you can estimate the relative risk of a 16 year old girl going to a rave vs a grown lady going to the dentist. Only you can put yourself in a situation you can't handle.

[theken]

i blame drugs

[Kritafo]

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/Gang+rape+photos+added+insult+injury+says+girl+father/3541878/story.html

update from the father.

[autosm]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by captain134
[B] The only type of person who would think that way would be the type of people who committed the rape.

Sounds like we have a couple of them posting in this thread.

[se7en]

YAY! bring on your sisters!!!

[gyu]

Wait why are these kids at a rave party in the first place? I know you could have fake ID but a person they interviewed in the update article is only 14...

[Pollywog]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok
Don't kid yourself on this one, she wasn't willing. Probably passed out, or so high she wasn't screaming, so that's why no one stopped it.

I hate to admit it, but I know that feeling - not that I was/could have been raped, just being that high and out of it with no way of bringing yourself back. I am blaming the whole situation mainly on that, and for that reason I almost have even more sympathy for her. Obviously she is responsible for what she puts in her own body, but with how stupid and inexperienced people are these days her experience was still most likely undeserved. The guys who took advantage of her though, I don't understand what drugs I could ever be on that could convince me to rape someone. Some people I drink with every so often turn into completely different people when they start to get hammered, and its the same personality traits that vaguely come out when they are sober - and for this fact alone I believe that liquor and certain drugs bring out ones true self with no holds barred. Scalp the mother-fuckers.

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by Pollywog

The guys who took advantage of her though, I don't understand what drugs I could ever be on that could convince me to rape someone.

Unfortunately there's a lot of people out there who DON'T require drugs to change them into rapists. The scumwads would do it high or not.

[jj83civic]

Originally posted by Anomaly
5 out of 6 people enjoy gang rape?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Tram Common]

The pictures are not going "viral" like so many news outlets are claiming.

I spend ten minutes searching for them and yielded no results.

[RecoilS14]

Originally posted by Tram Common
The pictures are not going "viral" like so many news outlets are claiming.

I spend ten minutes searching for them and yielded no results.

Of course you didn't.

No website owner in their right mind would keep up photo's of: a) rape b)child porn c) gang rape d) child gang rape e) any of the above or anything else you can think of when an underage girl is involved.

(except 4chan)

[ekguy]

Edited haha it was too mean.

But yeah what happened to that girl makes me sick.

[Tram Common]

Originally posted by RecoilS14


Of course you didn't.

No website owner in their right mind would keep up photo's of: a) rape b)child porn c) gang rape d) child gang rape e) any of the above or anything else you can think of when an underage girl is involved.

(except 4chan)

Not really, there are tons of website that would keep pictures like that up just for those reasons.

I'm not condoning it, it's just the sad reality.

[Guillermo]

I read in yesterday's National Post that several of the girl's friends are coming forward and saying that the sex was consensual, and that the girl didn't get upset until the pictures were posted to facebook and she became embarrassed.

I'm not saying the girl is lying, but anyone who's been to these types of parties knows that this isn't totally outrageous behavior for people high on E, ghb, and/or whatever other random pills are floating around. :dunno:

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Guillermo
I read in yesterday's National Post that several of the girl's friends are coming forward and saying that the sex was consensual, and that the girl didn't get upset until the pictures were posted to facebook and she became embarrassed.

I'm not saying the girl is lying, but anyone who's been to these types of parties knows that this isn't totally outrageous behavior for people high on E, ghb, and/or whatever other random pills are floating around. :dunno:

I won't doubt that. If you read between the lines of the dad's response, he is concern more with the spread of the pics than the actual deed.

[Scuderia]

Originally posted by Xtrema


I won't doubt that. If you read between the lines of the dad's response, he is concern more with the spread of the pics than the actual deed.

EXACTLY. Everytime he comments, he sort of evades the actual "rape" and comments on the pictures. Almost every one of his comments has something along the lines of "the pictures add insult to injury", "kids are sick these days", etc. You never really know though, that's why you can't critisize the girl and make assumptions.

[Furious_Jorge]

her own fault? she got gangraped by 6 dudes man I wouldnt wish that on my worst enemy...

[se7en]

I would. I did. And she got her pictures plastered all over facebook.

[copynpaste]

To the 7 teen boys involved? I say put them all in jail so each and every one of them can get gang banged behind bars. The one who distributed the material online should be the first one in.

[CUG]

I don't feel that violent sexual criminals can be rehabilitated. Electroshock and a lobotomy.

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by copynpaste
To the 7 teen boys involved? I say put them all in jail so each and every one of them can get gang banged behind bars. The one who distributed the material online should be the first one in.

You mean 2 men arrested? They haven't found enough evidence to charge anyone else (asides from the kid who took the video, who is being charged with child porn, lol)

[D'z Nutz]

Was it really necessary to start a new thread on an old topic?

[HiTempguy1]

Originally posted by Furious_Jorge
her own fault? she got gangraped by 6 dudes man I wouldnt wish that on my worst enemy...

Nobody is saying it is her own fault. But from the knowledge we have/from what has been said, there is responsibility on her part for doing drugs :dunno: Pretty simple, if she was all high as a kite willingly then she needs to understand the consequences of said actions (it's kind of like that old "right of way" saying, "you can be right... dead right").

Now, as has been stated, if she was simply drugged, I feel terrible for her and she has my sympathy.

In either of these outcomes, the punishment for the deadbeats does not change (as CUG pointed out, I like his idea).