Toyota FT-86 Rebadged as a Scion

[MGCM]

Pending the powertrain is still a 2.0T RWD and lightweight I'd buy one.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/10/report-ft-86-to-be-badged-as-scion-arrive-with-higher-than-exp/

[Shlade]

Fuck this gay car

Either release it or fucking forget about it. I cant beleive the stupid amount of hype their trying to build on this POS

[JordanAndrew]

Still a nice looking car though.

[Power_Of_Rotary]

20g's seems very good for a rwd sports coupe. Assume the HP is above 250, id be interested in one...

[Cos]

Duke nukem forever
Gran trurismo 5
Ft86
Supra

[ExtremeSi]

Originally posted by Cos
Duke nukem forever
Gran trurismo 5
Ft86
Supra

:rofl: Lazy Japanese

[kevie88]

Originally posted by Cos
Duke nukem forever
Gran trurismo 5
Ft86
Supra

Every time I read anything about the FT86 I think this too.. Vaporware.

[dimi]

Originally posted by Shlade
Fuck this gay car

Either release it or fucking forget about it. I cant beleive the stupid amount of hype their trying to build on this POS
:werd:

[msommers]

Ya lots of hype but I think that is partly because it's projected to be a cheap sports car. Overall I still like it, although I'd never buy the first or even second year of a brand new vehicle.

Those wheels are still ugly as hell.

[Godfuader]

IF it has all the promised specs, $25,000 is a very attractive price. I guess there aren't too many sub $30K sporty rwd cars out there. The closest competitor would be the RX8?

Love the stance

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/10/toyotaft86live_09.jpg

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/10March/FT/ft1.jpg

[gyu]

Originally posted by Cos
Duke nukem forever
Gran trurismo 5
Ft86
Supra
:rofl:

You can get an RX-8 for under 30k new?
There's also the Genesis

[SI_futbol]

looks like a 350z

[Godfuader]

Originally posted by gyu
You can get an RX-8 for under 30k new?

RX8 Sport $26,645* (http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/displayPage.action?pageParameter=modelsMain&vehicleCode=RX8#/exterior ) <--US pricing

Wow, just saw Mazda Canada. The RX starts at ~$42K!

[gyu]

Welcome to Canada

[BokCh0y]

As long as it's offered here...scion or toyota badge, i'd take one for sure!!!! Especially for that price.

[freshprince1]

Originally posted by SI_futbol
looks like a 350z

QFT.

[lison]

beautiful car, price should be cheaper though.

[Tomaz]

Originally posted by lison
beautiful car, price should be cheaper though.

Reasoning? It's $25K... It's the price of my Mazda 3, Mitsu Lancer, Hyundai Genesis, Chev Cobalt, etc. Any "sports car" under $30k is VERY reasonable.

I think it should keep that price, just as long as it has some good HP numbers :D

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by lison
beautiful car, price should be cheaper though.

This is the reason why Toyota and Honda is doesn't serve the sport compact crowd any more.

Selling to enthusiasts just isn't profitable. They engineer a car that have the same effort as you would designing a Corolla but has 100x less buyers. AND then the buyers want it cheap.

I'm skeptical of their $25K claim. Something got to give at that price point. It would not be the FT86 promised at that price. The only way this will happen if the platform can be shared with multiple lines like the Nissan FM.

There is no way a Japanese company can deliver at this price point that can match Genesis or Mustang.

[n1zm0]

Originally posted by BokCh0y
As long as it's offered here...scion or toyota badge, i'd take one for sure!!!! Especially for that price.

+1 idc what badge either and as long as it's a made-in-japan J VIN'd.

[Phenix]

Originally posted by Tomaz


Reasoning? It's $25K... It's the price of my Mazda 3, Mitsu Lancer, Hyundai Genesis, Chev Cobalt, etc. Any &quot;sports car&quot; under $30k is VERY reasonable.

I think it should keep that price, just as long as it has some good HP numbers :D

you're dreaming if you actually think stupid toyota will actually sell it for around 30k. Lets look at the last celica gts with their wonderful Tsunami package. That gutless wonder was selling for just north of 38k. And you think that they will actually give you something that is rwd and better for 30k? Fat chance! those retards will sell them here for around 50k.

Toyota= GM time to go bankrupt

[BokCh0y]

Originally posted by n1zm0


+1 idc what badge either and as long as it's a made-in-japan J VIN'd.

J vin'd fo sho :thumbsup: :werd:

[Tomaz]

Originally posted by Phenix


you're dreaming if you actually think stupid toyota will actually sell it for around 30k. Lets look at the last celica gts with their wonderful Tsunami package. That gutless wonder was selling for just north of 38k. And you think that they will actually give you something that is rwd and better for 30k? Fat chance! those retards will sell them here for around 50k.

Toyota= GM time to go bankrupt

Well, we are basing these arguments on fictional prices right now.

I would never spend anything more than $35k on this car, VERY well loaded.

Only time will tell... :)

[in*10*se]

:hitit:

[msommers]

Originally posted by Tomaz


Well, we are basing these arguments on fictional prices right now.

I would never spend anything more than $35k on this car, VERY well loaded.

Only time will tell... :)

Genesis is just over 35k for their top model and that's about as good as it gets for performance vs. dollar in that price range. Especially with this being a Toyoto, there is no way in hell it will be lower.

The hype is built that the price is going to be low and that Toyota is actually releasing a sports coupe. Either expect a shit box or to pay more than you're thinking.

As Xtrema said, something has to give, and it will. At 25,000, something definitely will be giving. Be interested after a year or two how it's doing. Until then, meh.

[Godfuader]

Originally posted by Xtrema


This is the reason why Toyota and Honda is doesn't serve the sport compact crowd any more.

Selling to enthusiasts just isn't profitable. They engineer a car that have the same effort as you would designing a Corolla but has 100x less buyers. AND then the buyers want it cheap.
:werd: The biggest critics of Toyota aren't even their target demographic. Simplicity is Toyota's selling feature. Performance is mostly demanded by those who have no intention of buying it. Why is Lexus more popular than a better all around Infiniti? Simplicity.


Originally posted by Phenix
you're dreaming if you actually think stupid toyota will actually sell it for around 30k. Lets look at the last celica gts with their wonderful Tsunami package. That gutless wonder was selling for just north of 38k. And you think that they will actually give you something that is rwd and better for 30k? Fat chance! those retards will sell them here for around 50k.
You guys are all missing one key pricing point. All relevant prices are listed in US Dollars. Canada is its own ball game. Even if Toyota sells it for under $30K in the US, you can guarantee that the Canadian version will be closer to $40K

[01RedDX]

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[Xtrema]

Originally posted by 01RedDX
Still no word on the Subaru version. Damnit.

If the rumor is true that Scooby version will only be available in Europe and Japan, you'll bet that it will be too expensive for North American consumption.

[A790]

This could actually wind up being good: http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2011/1101_toyota_extending_subaru_product_sharing_to_highlander_tribeca/index.html


Toyota tackles the problem with the upcoming FT-86 rear-wheel-drive sports coupe by going with a Subaru pancake engine -- the STI's 305-horsepower, 290 pound-foot version of the 2.5-liter turbo four, our source says. Earlier reports had the FT-86 launching with less-powerful Subaru engines. Toyota's development costs have ballooned, however, and the FT-86 is now seen as a mid-$20s car rather than a sub-$20,000 car.

Read more: http://www.motortrend.com/features/auto_news/2011/1101_toyota_extending_subaru_product_sharing_to_highlander_tribeca/index.html#ixzz1A0dP1tZe

[Phenix]

Originally posted by Shlade
Fuck this gay car

Either release it or fucking forget about it. I cant beleive the stupid amount of hype their trying to build on this POS

:werd:

And if this shit does finally come out, it will cost in the range of 50k

[That.Guy.S30]

Originally posted by Phenix


:werd:

And if this shit does finally come out, it will cost in the range of 50k

no doubt. That would kill sales for the STi. I dont like the direction subaru is going. I highly doubt the FT86 will get the EJ257. Maybe the new engine from the 11' forester

[Onassis]

Originally posted by Xtrema


If the rumor is true that Scooby version will only be available in Europe and Japan, you'll bet that it will be too expensive for North American consumption.

Subaru is smart enough not to alienate a core group of enthusiasts. If they do release the Coupe I would expect it to be much more expensive than the WRX STi sedan or hatchback just for the 'sports' coupe image.

It would make much more sense if Toyota rebadged the Subaru variant in different markets as a Celica GT4 though...

[cream]

The move would help bolster the struggling brand, which has been a bit product-starved of late.

What about Toyota's struggling sales...... even if they make a variant.. this would've been a car to bring them back up in sales. Now they want to divide the sales to their Scion division..

[ApexDrift]

rumors but exciting!

http://www.ft86club.com/?p=374

[n1zm0]

^ i sure fken hope so!

guess well have to wait till april 22nd when i makes its first production form appearance

[A790]

LOL I posted that like 5 posts up.

[treg50]

Their 370Z competitor i guess.

Seems like a "version" for Scion will mean there will still be a toyota "version"... maybe they'll even make a Lexus version as well... like they did with the Corolla.