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CHICHARITZHI
10-23-2010, 07:44 PM
i ate a lot but i don't get fat. any idea?

Unknown303
10-23-2010, 07:55 PM
http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2007/11/butter.jpg

ExtraSlow
10-23-2010, 08:03 PM
Lard is where it's at.

CHICHARITZHI
10-23-2010, 08:06 PM
i love to eat cheese but pricey.

CHICHARITZHI
10-23-2010, 08:09 PM
Originally posted by ExtraSlow
Lard is where it's at.


i don't want my heart get clogged.:D

Modelexis
10-23-2010, 08:09 PM
Drink 4L of milk per day for a month?

Eat lots of peanut butter.

TYMSMNY
10-23-2010, 08:09 PM
^ think it's butter.

masoncgy
10-23-2010, 08:20 PM
Eat a Double Down with extra bacon 3x a day, dip it in sour cream.

CHICHARITZHI
10-23-2010, 08:33 PM
do u think guys ice cream can gain weight?

CHICHARITZHI
10-23-2010, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by masoncgy
Eat a Double Down with extra bacon 3x a day, dip it in sour cream.


i'll try it

KO22
10-23-2010, 08:50 PM
how to gain weight? .. hmm get a sleeping bag, park that bitch in the nearest mcdonalds, and eat that shit all day everyday for a month, you'll gain a pound or two.. or 50

davidI
10-23-2010, 09:01 PM
Good weight (muscle) or bad weight (Fat)?

For either one you're going to have to eat, but it will make a difference as to what you're eating and if you're training. For the latter, you can also drink lots of beer.

[Yu]
10-23-2010, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by CHICHARITZHI
i ate a lot but i don't get fat. any idea?


Im surprised no one has ask him this yet.

How much is "a lot" in terms of calories?


I put on 6-7 lbs of good weight in about a month and a half.

I started at 110 lbs and now I am around 116 lbs in the morning after my dump. Average around 119-121 llbs after food.

I eat 2500-3000 calories a day.

So I am assuming you are much larger than me in terms of weight, so I would assume you would have to eat more food.

3000 calories of healthy food is hard to eat.... all I eat is meat, and carbs. Very, very boring meals and bland.

Unknown303
10-23-2010, 09:22 PM
My only real question is.

What the hell are you talking about and if you're serious and not just trolling like a douche try to elaborate on a retarded open question.

banned3x
10-23-2010, 09:40 PM
Yeah my brother wants to know this exact same question. Like I don't know who's joking or not. Nobody can eat a tub of tars or a block of cheese, so what's the best way to gain weight healthy wise and muscle wise. My brother is 130 and can't gain a pound. He eats and eats and never gains a pound. What can he do?

davidI
10-23-2010, 10:14 PM
I used to be a scrawny mess too. People often say they're eating but they really aren't. You have to eat like it's your job.

When I was trying to put on mass I was lifting weights at least 4x a week.

My meals went something like this:

2 cups of steel cut oats
6 Egg Omelette with Cheese & Salsa
1 Glass of Milk

Banana / Apple / with Peanut Butter & Milk Protein Shake

2 Cans of Tuna w/ mayo on 4 pieces of bread + Juice

Banana / Apple / PB & Milk Protein Shake

Large Serving of Rice, Veggies & 2+ Chicken Breasts
Dessert


If he does that for a month, I guarantee he'll gain weight. Thing is, he's probably eating $hit or not eating enough. To gain weight you need to consume more calories than you burn. To lose weight you need to burn more calories than you consume. Easy, right?

Spoons
10-23-2010, 10:15 PM
Originally posted by banned3x
Yeah my brother wants to know this exact same question. Like I don't know who's joking or not. Nobody can eat a tub of tars or a block of cheese, so what's the best way to gain weight healthy wise and muscle wise. My brother is 130 and can't gain a pound. He eats and eats and never gains a pound. What can he do?

Same as me. I literally eat all the fucking time. I fucking love food. My two favourite things in life; food and sleep. Ultimately this should equal me being a fat slob since I don't do much for physical activities...

Nope, 6'2" @ 155lbs

max_boost
10-23-2010, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Modelexis
Drink 4L of milk per day for a month?

Eat lots of peanut butter.


You guys who can't gain weight, do the above and report back in a month. Also, lift weights.

www.stronglifts.com

Man up.

[Yu]
10-23-2010, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by max_boost



You guys who can't gain weight, do the above and report back in a month. Also, lift weights.

www.stronglifts.com

Man up.

Truth, I have been complaining about how I couldn't gain weight for the last 3 years.

First year I feel great and putting on pounds effectively.

Eat BIG, Lift BIG.

For you people that claim they eat a lot, once again, exact same words of mine. For the last month I eat until I feel like puking, and 30 mins - 1 hour later, eat another snack like a sandwhich.

Spoons
10-23-2010, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by max_boost



You guys who can't gain weight, do the above and report back in a month. Also, lift weights.

www.stronglifts.com

Man up.

Pfft I don't want to be all muscly anymore. Big muscles are over-rated.

gqmw
10-23-2010, 10:40 PM
perogies! tons of carbs

Spoons
10-23-2010, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by gqmw
perogies! tons of carbs

I'm part Ukrainian. I eat tons of them. Doesn't work.

max_boost
10-23-2010, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by Spoons


Pfft I don't want to be all muscly anymore. Big muscles are over-rated.

Right. LOL :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

max_boost
10-23-2010, 11:04 PM
How to Gain Weight for Skinny Guys.

I'll even post link up too.

http://stronglifts.com/how-to-gain-weight-for-skinny-guys/

Travel_Dude
10-23-2010, 11:31 PM
Eat more. Move less.

davidI
10-23-2010, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by Spoons


Pfft I don't want to be all muscly anymore. Big muscles are over-rated.

It's funny but that's actually where I'm at right now. I'm not huge by any means, but there was a point where I didn't fit any of my clothes or tailored suits anymore.

I'm also getting into training for Muay Thai and thinking about future triathlons (running lots now) so I'm cutting a lot of weight off. I figure as long as I stay over 170#s (I'm 5'9" on a good day) I won't re-enter the world of scrawn.

gqmw
10-24-2010, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Spoons


I'm part Ukrainian. I eat tons of them. Doesn't work.

works for me hahah...but I also eat a ton of other stuff when I'm bulking.

KRyn
10-24-2010, 10:11 AM
Go and pick up some Mutant Mass or any type of weight gainer shake. They are cheap and travel well, packed full of carbs, protein and sugar. Everything you need to put on some mass.

Neil4Speed
10-24-2010, 11:51 AM
If you just need pure calories, Microwave tubs of Hagen Daaz and drink it. Thats how Jared Leto put on weight for that John Lennon Killer movie he was in, remember how skinny this guy was in Requiem? It must work lol


Originally posted by davidI


It's funny but that's actually where I'm at right now. I'm not huge by any means, but there was a point where I didn't fit any of my clothes or tailored suits anymore.

I'm also getting into training for Muay Thai and thinking about future triathlons (running lots now) so I'm cutting a lot of weight off. I figure as long as I stay over 170#s (I'm 5'9" on a good day) I won't re-enter the world of scrawn.

Me as well. I used to be almost obsessed with putting on weight and looking bigger, putting on muscle mass, saturating myself with protein shakes. I remember how shit I felt for a little while. After I lost some weight, I feel so much better, so much more sustained energy, and I feel even better about myself and feel a freedom of sorts not being tied to a timer for eating massive meals that I didn't even want. While I don't preach to do everything that feels "natural", but eating 4000 calories a day sounds extremely "unnatural" to me.

Its funny, I think allot of people put on muscle because of that "weak man" syndrome that they may have had.I think it is something that is far better achieved by taking a fighting/martial arts/self defense class like you are doing!

I have always been fascinated by the psychology behind body building, there is allot of good that can come from it, but I do feel that for many its a show of their own insecurities and for them these insecurities may be more effectively cured in other ways.

max_boost
10-24-2010, 07:21 PM
^^

Depends on your fitness goals.

almerick
10-24-2010, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by max_boost
How to Gain Weight for Skinny Guys.

I'll even post link up too.

http://stronglifts.com/how-to-gain-weight-for-skinny-guys/

Thanks for the link, maybe I'll try and give it a go.


Originally posted by Neil4Speed
If you just need pure calories, Microwave tubs of Hagen Daaz and drink it. Thats how Jared Leto put on weight for that John Lennon Killer movie he was in, remember how skinny this guy was in Requiem? It must work lol

Sounds like an idea! Might go well with my cheesecake eating. :rofl:

J-hop
10-26-2010, 10:29 PM
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Ukyo8
10-26-2010, 10:48 PM
http://www.foodandthings.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/bacon.jpg

turbotrip
10-27-2010, 09:24 AM
late night peanut butter sandwiches and mcdonalds meals is how i put on weight

j.garner
10-27-2010, 09:28 AM
Oats are where its at eat lots of them you will gain weight i put 1 cup in my protien shakes twice a day when i was trying to gain weight.

msommers
10-27-2010, 09:29 AM
I've been taking 2 big spoonfuls of peanut butter and some fish oil before bed since I started ~ 7 weeks ago. Pasta is good too.

lint
10-27-2010, 09:55 AM
Amateurs. This is how a pro does it

http://www.t-nation.com/testosterone-magazine-641#dave-tate-talks-bulking-cutting


Dave Tate Talks Bulking and Cutting
by Nate Green and Dave Tate

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

Dave Tate has been monster huge and freakishly lean. (Now he's both.) Since he knows both sides of the struggle it makes sense that he's the most vocal and opinionated expert on all things food related. (Earlier this year, he told me to pour olive oil all over a large pizza and eat one every night, and that if I couldn't stomach it I was a "fucking wuss.")

I got on the phone with him recently—while he was eating no less—to pick his brain about the old bodybuilding tradition of bulking and cutting.


Tate Talks Bulking

• It comes down to calories in versus calories out. If you're having a hard time gaining weight you need a number to shoot for. So let's figure that out quickly. I like John Romaniello's calorie formula for figuring out maintenance levels. It's easy. And I'm all about easy.

(Editor's Note: Here's Roman's formula for those who missed it last week.)

6%-12% 17 calories per pound of LBM (Lean Body Mass)

12%-15% 16 calories per pound of LBM

15.1%-19% 15 calories per pound of LBM

19.1%-22% 14 calories per pound of LBM

22.1% or above 13 calories per pound of LBM

So you find out your body fat percentage and then multiple your weight by that percent. Subtract that number from your weight to find out your lean mass, and then use that number and your body fat percentage to determine your calories.

Using that formula, let's say you figured out you need 2,200 calories just to maintain your bodyweight. Well, let's bump that number up by, I don't know, 600 to 1,000 calories. That's the average you need to hit every single day.

A big mistake a lot of guys make is they'll eat big for three days and then go back to eating like they normally do for a few days. If you figure out the average calories for that week then it's not higher than it was the week before—it's just staggered into different days. That's not going to make a difference at all. So you gotta eat big consistently.

• Even with my past history of eating junk, people are forgetting that I gained weight for many years, all the way from 181 to 255 pounds, by eating relatively clean. But at that point, when the calories were getting around 8,000, I just couldn't eat that much food any more.

• You need more calories per bite. You have to figure out ways to add more calories to the food you're already eating. So throw olive oil on everything. Put it on your scrambled eggs. You won't even know it's there. Put a handful of nuts into your morning oatmeal.

• What I used to do is get a big Ziploc bag and fill it with almonds, cashews, raisins, peanuts, and M&M's. But only enough M&M's to get a few with each handful. And I made sure at least one of the nuts was salted, so it'd make me want to eat more.

Let's say you grab a big handful of nuts every hour or so—you're going to end up eating at least an extra 500 calories. The only thing you gotta be careful with is not to get too full from them. Since it's all high-quality fat, you'll get full quickly. Pay attention to when your next meal is and make sure you get it in.

• Have a scoop of Metabolic Drive in water after every single meal. You can always fit more in, especially protein and water. You do that four or five times per day and you've just added an extra 100 grams of protein and 400 to 500 calories.

• Not everyone will agree with me on this, but immediately after you train, kick back a ton of sugar like Skittles or whatever. Just eat a whole goddamn box. You'll be restoring your glycogen levels, you won't gain a lot of fat, and you'll be hungry five minutes later. And you just added in like 150 grams of carbs. That'll add up quickly. But you have to do it immediately after. Like, in the locker room before you even hit your car. Then when you're driving home have your Surge Recovery. Then get home and eat a meal.

• Be sure to brush your teeth or at least drink a lot of water and swish it around after you eat all that candy, though. It's not eating the sugar that's the problem—it's how long it sits in your mouth. And I have the cavities to prove it.

• Have a shake before bed. Here's a good recipe for you.

1 cup heavy whipping cream

1 cup of egg whites

¼ cup of nuts

1 tablespoon of peanut butter

1 scoop of Metabolic Drive

Ice and water

That's like 800 calories or more right there. I'm not one of those guys who thinks you can only digest 30 grams of protein per sitting or whatever the hell it is. Load up.

• No, you don't need to eat Wendy's to get big. It won't kill you, so you can if you want, but it's not necessary. Guys are always trying to look for an excuse to eat the shit. The problem is your goal is to gain weight and add in more calories. When you eat things like that—and I made a career out of it – it kills your appetite. Let's say you order two double cheeseburgers and some fries. You probably won't eat for another five hours after you finish that meal. You have to focus on total overall calories, not just shit food.

• Two tablespoons of peanut butter is a good start. Do that twice per day. It still won't affect your hunger.

• Eat a meal during your training session. I don't care if it's a FINibar or a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Well, the FINibar would be better, actually. Anyway, after your main lift, just down a whole bar. It's not a huge meal and I guarantee you'll still be hungry after your training session. Plus you just added in an extra couple hundred calories.

• Decrease your cardio. Maybe get rid of it entirely. Be lazy. If you can lie down, lie down. If somebody else can do it, have them do it.

• Any hypertrophy program will help you get bigger. So just pick one. You need four to five days of weight training, but they can't last longer than an hour total. Let me repeat that. Your workouts can never last over an hour. But whichever program you pick, take the rest periods and double them. That'll make sure you're stronger for all of your sets.


Tate Talks Cutting

• The number one thing you have to do immediately is increase your water intake. For one thing it's just fucking important. I can't believe how many guys don't get enough water. But the other reason is that it'll help control appetite.

• Now you're working under your baseline of calories. So take the calorie formula listed previously and take away a few hundred calories. That's your new goal, and you have to hit it consistently.

• When you work under your baseline of calories, macronutrients become more important. When you're bulking and eating more than you need, you have room to screw up because you're eating so much you're probably going to get all of your protein and fat in. When you're below your maintenance level of calories you donÕt have that margin of error. You have to be exact.

• I'm sick of dancing around this subject: If you don't know what you're doing, hire someone. If you're serious, figure out a way to pay them. Look across the board at how many people fail trying to get lean. It's nearly everyone. Yeah, getting lean isn't rocket science. I understand that. Exercise more and eat less. But if that shit worked wouldn't everyone be lean?

• You have to increase your protein. Most people don't take in enough. How many grams per pound of bodyweight? I don't know and I don't care. Just eat more protein.

• Figure out your strategy, whether it's low carb or carb cycling or whatever, and stick to it. Don't change it every week.

• Remember with bulking how we wanted more calories per bite? Well, now we want more bites per calories. So eat a bowl of broccoli with every meal. Increase your greens. It'll fill you up because there's more there. Eat more fish and more chicken. Take your time with your meals.

• Take weekly progress pictures, record your measurements, check your body fat and buy a damn scale and weigh yourself every day. I have my body fat checked every two weeks by the same person. Don't use the bullshit three-site caliper formula. Use the seven or nine-site one. That'll give you an idea of where you're going since we all lose fat in different places at different times.

• When you're getting lean it's a little awkward because there are blind spots where you're losing weight but you look worse. It's like the chicken growing inside the egg. It looks the same on the outside but there's a lot of shit going on inside.

• If you can stomach it, eat the same thing every day.

• Whatever you normally have for carbs, cut that in half and replace half the calories with high quality fat. So let's say you're taking in 400 grams of carbs per day. That's 1600 calories. So now you need 800 calories from fat. That's about 88 grams of fat you need to take in. Get it from nuts, avocadoes, and oils.

• Add fiber to your diet. Trust me. You want to be able to shit properly.

• With training I want you to use higher volume and really increase your reps. Not because higher reps "chisel" muscle or any bullshit like that. More activity equals more calories burned. So the more reps you do, the more calories you burn.

For the most part, guys enjoy weightlifting more than cardio. So let's do 15-20 sets per larger body part and 10-15 for smaller muscle groups. I want everything in the 8-12 rep range. The goal is to not lose muscle. Let's face it: you're not going to gain any muscle while you're cutting. If you claim you can then you're either selling an e-book or you're full of shit.


Tate Talks Trash

• You ever go out with a bunch of people for dinner when you're dieting? Isn't that a fucked up situation?

Let's say you're at a table with seven people and everyone's ordering their food. You're at the end so you're ordering last. They're getting ribs, chicken strips, spaghetti, and whatever. No one in the group cares what they're ordering. The conversation stays the same. Then it comes to you and your first question is, "How do you prepare your chicken breasts?"

People start looking at you.

Then you order two plain chicken breasts with a side of broccoli with no butter or seasoning. The waiter writes it down and off he goes to the kitchen. Now everyone's looking at you like you're a freak.

They didn't care that your other friend was eating ribs. They didn't say shit when the guy ordered his chicken strips. So how is your meal selection any different? It blows my mind.

If you ordered something that was complete shit, no one would say anything. But because you ordered something to help you achieve a goal, it's a problem. And now for the next ten minutes you're having that stupid fucking conversation.

"It's so easy for you to lose weight," they say. "I can't do it."

And you're thinking, really? Here I am at Outback Steakhouse ordering two plain chicken breasts and broccoli – which is gonna cost me 40 bucks by the way – and it's easy? This is something I want to do? You think I want to sit here and watch you fuckers eat wings and ribs? I'm here for your company, not to give you dieting tips you're not gonna listen to.

And the same shit happens when you're bulking, too.

Let's say you're at the same restaurant. They order their food. Then it comes to you and you get three racks of ribs and two sweet potatoes. They say, "Holy shit, do you eat like that all the time? I wish I had that kind of metabolism!"

And you want to say, do you seriously think I want to sit here and eat 36 fucking ribs? Do you think this is going to be pleasant for me?

Three-quarters of the way through the meal you're sweating with napkins piled by your plate, the bones are stacked and are the size of the Eiffel tower. There's a heartbeat in your stomach. Then you finish eating and they say, "Well, I guess you're going to order dessert now."

All you're thinking about is how the hell you're going to get back to the car. Then you get to go home an hour later and make a fucking shake before bed. Then wake up the next day and do it all over again for however long it takes.

That's why there's so few people who are doing this shit and why it helps to be around people with similar goals. They understand. It's a rare breed, man.

Yeah, you can stay in the middle, take some supplements here and there, take time off for whatever reason, change your program every other week and stay absolutely the same as you are now.

But that's bullshit.


Dave Tate is the owner of EliteFTS.

in*10*se
10-27-2010, 11:36 AM
seriously?
go to costco, buy a few bags of almonds, munch on them for a week. (finish 2 bags in a week)

and BAM instant 5lbs a bag