Beyond F1 Xbox Championship - Race 4

[rage2]

As suggested by everyone, we're moving this to Wednesday. Does that work better for everybody?

Race #4 - Chinese GP
Date + Time - Wednesday Nov 10th, 2010. 9:00PM
Driver Aids - All Allowed
Damage - None
Collisions - Full
Rules and Flags - Realistic
Fuel and Tire sim - Off (pit stop required for dry race)
15 min Quali, 30% Race Distance
All cars identical (basically time trial mode performance)

Drivers and Teams:
rage2 - Team Kwan
Gage - Team Kwan
Skyline_Addict (Yanigasawa) - Team One Hand Steer
J_97 (Fantim97) - Team One Hand Steer
Mibz - Team DSQ
kennyeg - Team DSQ
benyl - Team Last
buh_buh (Rufus McPoo) - Team Last
BigBadVlad - Team TEIMPBMXFCMMPRT
ryanallan (ForzaRX) - Team TEIMPBMXFCMMPRT
Cos (the_cosworth) - TBD
Blahdeh - TBD

Qualifying
1. rage2
2. haysen
3. Rufus McPoo
4. Mibz
5. The Cosworth
6. kennyeg
7. ForzaRX
8. benyl
9. Bladeh
10. Yanigasawa (DSQ)

Race
1. haysen (25)
2. Rufus McPoo (18)
3. rage2 (15)
4. ForzaRX DSQ (12)
5. kennyeg (10)
6. Mibz (8)
7. benyl (6)
8. Bladeh (6)
9. The Cosworth DSQ (0)

Drivers Championship Standings http://tinyurl.com/BeyondF1
1. haysen (100)
2. rage2 (66)
3. Rufus McPoo (36)
4. The Cosworth (27)
5(T). Mibz (26)
5(T). benyl (26)
7(T). kennyeg (24)
7(T). ForzaRX (24)
9. Fantim97 (18)
10. BigBadVlad (15)
11. Bladeh (10)
12. Yanigasawa (6)

Constructors Championship Standings http://tinyurl.com/BeyondF1
1. Team Kwan (166)
2. Team Last (62)
3. Team DSQ (50)
4. Team TEIMPBMXFCMMPRT (39)
5. Team One Hand Steer (24)

[Bladeh]

Need some advice, so I was doing time trial for the last race in a McLaren I was getting in the 1.33's, when it comes to online race I get a Renault and man I suck! what do I practice in?

[rage2]

It doesn't matter. All the cars on xbox live are the exact same speed. I practice using McLaren, and it feels the same as all the cars.

Are you sure you're using the exact same setup?

[[GaGe]]

Originally posted by Bladeh
Need some advice, so I was doing time trial for the last race in a McLaren I was getting in the 1.33's, when it comes to online race I get a Renault and man I suck! what do I practice in?

Join races where car performance is set to equal, instead of 2010. We use the equal setting in our championship.

With the 2010 setting, higher ranked ppl will get first priority for car preference, giving them a huge advantage.

[ryanallan]

you need to spell out our team name, our sponsors wont like this one bit!!

[Mibz]

Originally posted by ryanallan
you need to spell out our team name, our sponsors wont like this one bit!! I was waiting for this. So intrigued.

[DJ Lazy]

Originally posted by ryanallan
you need to spell out our team name, our sponsors wont like this one bit!!

:rofl:

[rage2]

It won't fit on my spreadsheet.

Telecom Euro Italia Mobile Phone Beyond Microsoft XBOX F1 Codemasters Mitsubishi Motors Professional Racing Team

Seriously! :rofl:

Mibz brought up a good point, do we want to extend race distance to 30%? 10 laps seems to go by fairly quick. I'm up for 40% as well.

[Cos]

^^ yeah I am okay with a bit longer race. Also I am good for wednesdays.

Do we want to start at 8:30 then? We seem to be all in there pretty early anyways.

[rage2]

Need practice time... haha. 9pm works well.

[Cos]

True. Sounds fine to me. Is there anyone not on a team?

[ryanallan]

Telecom Euro Italia Mobile Phone Beyond Microsoft XBOX F1 Codemasters Mitsubishi Motors Professional Racing Team is looking for a bright young star to fill a reserve driver position with opportunity to move into a race seat for the 2011/2012 season

[kenny]

Originally posted by rage2
Mibz brought up a good point, do we want to extend race distance to 30%? 10 laps seems to go by fairly quick. I'm up for 40% as well.

20% and already the entire field laps Mibz (and me), only thing 30 and 40% will do is allow everyone to lap the backmarkers (again).

Only difference I see is that it'll allow the front runners to truly shake out to see who is better and recover from 1st lap mistakes.

I'm happy with whatever race distance we go with. Pretty fun racing even tho I'm so crappy lol

[rage2]

OK this may be a touchy subject, but a lot of the speed that I found was due to really tweaking out the setups. I basically found a solid 1-1.5s improvement between the default "engineering setups" vs a custom setup tailored to the particular track.

I know a lot of you guys don't know how, or want to explore custom setups (haysen spent at least 3 nights on perfecting his setup), so what are your thoughts on ONLY allowing engineering setups to try to close the gap up between the front and the back? That means zero mods to the setup, including gear ratios (one of the biggest performance gains).

It'll be hard to enforce, since the game does not allow for this restriction, so I expect everyone to use the honor system.

What are your thoughts?

[rage2]

Originally posted by kenny
20% and already the entire field laps Mibz (and me), only thing 30 and 40% will do is allow everyone to lap the backmarkers (again).
Everyone finished on the lead lap the last race, so it's closing up a bit compared to the first 2 races.

[benyl]

Originally posted by rage2

It'll be hard to enforce, since the game does not allow for this restriction, so I expect everyone to use the honor system.

What are your thoughts?

Gear ratios and brakes are the only things I play with. I leave the rest on the Engineer settings.

Are we also going to restrict in race changes of the Wing and engine type?

I am game for standard setup for everyone as it levels it a little more for people who don't have time to spend 3 nights tweaking setups. haha

[[GaGe]]

I'd prefer allowing custom setups. It makes the game alot funner IMO. Malaysia's the only track I'll have to spend 3 nights on anyways haha. The other tracks usually take 10-15 mins (tweaking setups from previous tracks). Plus, we can't really enforce the restriction.

I'm OK with standard setups too though, if everyone thinks it's more fair. More practice time that way haha.

[Cos]

Originally posted by rage2


What are your thoughts?

Change my mind I agree with mibz below. Keep it sort of realistic. If you put in effort you get rewarded.

[Mibz]

Go ahead and use custom setups.

I don't see a reason that effort shouldn't be rewarded. If you want to spend the time figuring it all out and tweaking it perfectly then have at 'er. I don't have the patience to play this game any more than I have to and I don't mind continuously being a back marker because that's all I've earned.

I started using wing change last race and I was kinda surprised how much it helped so I think I'll start doing it for every race.

[buh_buh]

No custom setups will make the racing closer, and will reward better driving rather than better setups. Some people can play this game 5 hours a day, and some play 5 minutes before 9pm on mondays. I think custom setups will stretch out the field even more. Those that are near the front are likely those that play more, and likely those that use custom setups. Its really up to how everyone wants the racing to turn out. I know the frontrunners are all pretty close in pure pace, probably within 1-1.5s within each other, so stock setups will also make it harder for frontrunners to make passes.

But there's no way of enforcing it, so we could just scrap the idea. I don't trust you fuckers anyway :poosie:
And I like 9pm. I don't know if I can make it home on time by 8:30 every night.

[Skyline_Addict]

Weds is good for me, though Thurs would be better.

[rage2]

We're not changing it again for you! haha. We'll see how Wed works for everyone. So far, it looks promising.

How's everyone doing at the track? I'm about 50 laps of practice in, and JUST starting to get some consistency. Not an easy track that's for sure.

[Cos]

I am about 20 laps down. Lots of oh shit missed the turn mistakes. If I can get a good lap though I can make the car move.

[J_97]

I have a game on weds so I wont be able to make it.

good luck everyone

[rage2]

T minus 1 day. Have you guys practiced turn 1 yet? haha. Tough corner for sure.

[Cos]

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[Mibz]

Still haven't touched it, hahaha. I foresee an 8th place after 4 people DSQ.

[buh_buh]

Thursdays will not work for me. Lets keep it consistent. Either Monday or Wednesday. Pick a day and lets stick with it.

[Skyline_Addict]

Crap looks like me and j_97 will have to miss another race due to sports. There's still a chance I can make it though.

[rage2]

^ haha we moved the race just for you guys too!

Remember guys, 30% race distance tonight!

[Skyline_Addict]

Haha yeah I know and appreciate that so I'll try to make it tonight. The problem with our "schedules" is that things can change on short notice and seems to happen regularly. Half the stuff is scheduled for sure, the other half is just winged.

[BigBadVlad]

Looks like I can't make tonight either, forgot about ball hockey. I could make 10:00pm probably....

[rage2]

Originally posted by BigBadVlad
Looks like I can't make tonight either, forgot about ball hockey. I could make 10:00pm probably....
Damn, I was looking forward to race you too. You're my rival if we were doing career mode haha.

[kenny]

excellent... higher chance for me to finish in the points! :rofl:

[Skyline_Addict]

Consistent mid 1:32 can't seem to break 1:31

[Skyline_Addict]

Wow I'm surprised that time is giving me top 500 on leaderboards

[benyl]

Oh damn, I just got home. What course are we driving? hahaha :eek: :eek:

Downloading Xbox update. Cutting into my practice time!

[rage2]

Looks like the patch fixed a lot of the dumb penalties. We'll see if that holds true tonight.

[Skyline_Addict]

Got into 1:31...hope I do well

[Mibz]

I can get mid 1:33s if I stay on the track.

This game is so fucking buggy and retardedly designed.

[Skyline_Addict]

Do you up shift 2 gears sometimes even though u just press the paddle once?? Is that the wheel or the game being buggy?

[Skyline_Addict]

Wow, I some how got booted from the game right near the end of qualfying. Fuck this lol, got a decent 4th too. This game fuckin hates me.

[Mibz]

This game is so fucking stupid. Somebody gets bumped and spun into me in turn 1. I get a drive-through. Then fucking ForzaRX TWICE pushes me, the 2nd one causing a spin, and he doesn't get shit.

This game does nothing but piss me off, it's seriously no fun to sit there for half an hour or more and have all your hard work mean nothing because of bullshit or nonexistent calls.

[ryanallan]

^^ SORRY !

It's very hard to avoid running into other cars.
I was lucky though.

The past two races I was DSQ'd for the same thing.

It was drying up at the end, did anyone switch to drys?
I was thinking about it, to risky though.

[rage2]

Originally posted by Mibz
This game is so fucking stupid. Somebody gets bumped and spun into me in turn 1. I get a drive-through. Then fucking ForzaRX TWICE pushes me, the 2nd one causing a spin, and he doesn't get shit.

This game does nothing but piss me off, it's seriously no fun to sit there for half an hour or more and have all your hard work mean nothing because of bullshit or nonexistent calls.
At least you're not getting taken out by your teammate 2 races in a row... :banghead:

Updating scores.

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by Mibz
This game is so fucking stupid. Somebody gets bumped and spun into me in turn 1. I get a drive-through. Then fucking ForzaRX TWICE pushes me, the 2nd one causing a spin, and he doesn't get shit.

This game does nothing but piss me off, it's seriously no fun to sit there for half an hour or more and have all your hard work mean nothing because of bullshit or nonexistent calls.

I'm pretty sure that this game hates us both very much.

[rage2]

Qualifying
1. rage2
2. haysen
3. Rufus McPoo
4. Mibz
5. The Cosworth
6. kennyeg
7. ForzaRX
8. benyl
9. Bladeh
10. Yanigasawa (DSQ)

Race
1. haysen (25)
2. Rufus McPoo (18)
3. rage2 (15)
4. ForzaRX DSQ (12)
5. kennyeg (10)
6. Mibz (8)
7. benyl (6)
8. Bladeh (6)
9. The Cosworth DSQ (0)

Drivers Championship Standings
1. haysen (100)
2. rage2 (66)
3. Rufus McPoo (36)
4. The Cosworth (27)
5(T). Mibz (26)
5(T). benyl (26)
7(T). kennyeg (24)
7(T). ForzaRX (24)
9. Fantim97 (18)
10. BigBadVlad (15)
11. Bladeh (10)
12. Yanigasawa (6)

Constructors Championship Standings
1. Team Kwan (166)
2. Team Last (62)
3. Team DSQ (50)
4. Team TEIMPBMXFCMMPRT (39)
5. Team One Hand Steer (24)

[rage2]

Mibz shouldn't be complaining, he's consistently moving up in the rankings. Doing pretty good IMO.

Did anyone switch to dry tires? I pitted for options on lap 14 and was catching the front guys by 8 seconds a lap. Another few laps and I would've been able to catch up. Best lap a 1:29.9 in the race.

[rage2]

Originally posted by ryanallan
It's very hard to avoid running into other cars.
I was lucky though.
Yea, you took me out when I was trying to pass you. No biggie, I was so far behind anyways haha.

[Skyline_Addict]

sigh. I didn't get DSQ, I got d/c!

[rage2]

haha, just going by the screenshots. That sucks that you got disconnected. You would've been way up front cuz haysen and I are like Webber and Vettel. Can't stop taking each other out haha.

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by rage2
haha, just going by the screenshots. That sucks that you got disconnected. You would've been way up front cuz haysen and I are like Webber and Vettel. Can't stop taking each other out haha.

very unlikely i'd be anywhere near you guys in the wet anyways. either way, i'm starting to hate this game on a Mibz level now. lol. i don't know how the fuck i got d/c'd.... i was still on XBL the whole time. I blame the game.

[rage2]

Considering you qualified right behind buh_buh, and he ended up 2nd, and I was quite a ways back from him at the end, it wouldn't be surprising if you podium'd TBH. I struggled for the first few laps after getting spun off avoiding other crashes.

[Skyline_Addict]

Well that's all in hindsight now, lol. How bad was the rain, was it like Australia?

[rage2]

It started really wet, a dry line developed by lap 5 or 6, lap 13 was when I noticed my time begin to drop off by about 1/2 sec, and I pitted on lap 14. Lap 16 was completely dry, and I clocked my fastest lap in the high 29's. haysen and buh_buh were spinning out 2 or 3 times a lap on intermediates on the final lap.

We could always race with zero collisions, but IMO it adds randomness to the results, which makes it more interesting. Seriously tho, I got 2 pole positions in the last 2 races and ended up last by the end of lap 1 on both counts, so it's just as frustrating for me. All of us will get affected (even haysen eventually haha) by the random hits and rules.

[[GaGe]]

Originally posted by rage2

At least you're not getting taken out by your teammate 2 races in a row... :banghead:

Updating scores.

I didn't take you out in Malayisa haha. We were still ahead 1-2 after I passed cleanly ;)

This race was pretty brutal for collisions though. Rage2 and I took each other out on turn 1. Then, I got taken out by someone else on the same lap, and twice more by backmarkers near the end of the race. I spun 2-3 times on the last lap too when the inters had no more grip. Lucky buh_buh had the same problems near the end of the race haha.

[rage2]

I just realized that in 4 races I've scored 3 poles, and zero wins. I'm definately Vettel. :(

[Mibz]

I thought about changing on lap 13 or 14 but then realized that unless I start lapping 10 seconds faster than the guy in front I wouldn't catch anybody so I just stuck it out.

And just because I'm moving up doesn't mean I can't bitch.

ryanallan, it's cool. I was just raging last night.

[kenny]

Originally posted by [GaGe]
Then, I got taken out by someone else on the same lap, and twice more by backmarkers near the end of the race.

My bad... braked just a bit too late following you and nudged you just enough for you to go off the track :) I did slow way down to let you re-pass right after though hahah

[Cos]

Originally posted by Skyline_Addict
sigh. I didn't get DSQ, I got d/c!

I got DC'd as well. I was running alright in the race, lost control of the car (I was doing 95km down the straight and couldnt control it, almost like being paused). Then it came back and I was pushing WAY to hard. Then it did it again. So I just dropped it. Fucking drove me nuts last night. I wonder if it was something in the patch.