Best AWD 4door sedan over 300HP

[89coupe]

Lets hear your thoughts?

[Neil4Speed]

Bentley Continental Flying Spur

[2002civic]

my vote would be an Audi RS4

tons of power, Recaro Seats, Brembo Brakes, 19's and looks dam sexy with a really nice, comfortable interior.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by Neil4Speed
Bentley Continental Flying Spur

Whats your reasoning?

[89coupe]

Originally posted by 2002civic
my vote would be an Audi RS4

tons of power, Recaro Seats, Brembo Brakes, 19's and looks dam sexy with a really nice, comfortable interior.

Not much room in the back seats though. Not the most practical 4 door sedan.

I'm thinking the Audi S6 would make more sense.

[benyl]

535xi with a JB3

[Awd-Tsi]

evo with a couple mods

[gpomp]

panamera turbo s

[arian_ma]

Originally posted by 89coupe


Whats your reasoning?
It was rated the fastest sedan in the world for a long time running. Also, it's a Bentley so it's extremely luxurious, styling is great, lots of power, AWD, etc. The only downsides I can see are cost and maintenance.

I agree with you on the interior of the RS4 being a bit too small as well, maybe an RS6? I saw one the other day and it looks pretty unimpressive, but inside and power wise that car is very good as well.

[you&me]

Depends what you're looking for, space requirements, budget, etc

Off the top of my head -

Small - Audi RS4 or '10 S4 if you want more warranty

Mid-size "regular" - BMW 535Xi

Mid-size "upper end" - Audi S6

Large-size "used upper-end" - MB S550 4-Matic or Audi S8

Large-size "newer upper-end" - 2010 BMW 750 (new '10s can be had ~$30k off MSRP). Panameras, with the right options and wheels can look good and there are great deals on the lightly used ones...

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by 89coupe


Not much room in the back seats though. Not the most practical 4 door sedan.

I'm thinking the Audi S6 would make more sense.

S6 is a BEAUTIFUL machine. I've got an old allroad, that is A6 platform, with the 2.7twin turbo. I love it, even with it's mechanical flaws (knocks on wood, nothings broke for awhile).

Brand new for a family, I'd definitely look at one. I love the old RS6's too (new ones not available in N.A.), and would love to get my hands on one, but they have even more problems than my allroad, lol.

[Redlyne_mr2]

Best for what?

[Tomaz]

Volvo S60 Turbo. Because I am a fanboy.

Chrysler 300C AWD. Because of the V8.

MB S-550 4-Matic. Pure sex.

BMW 5 Series. V8 TT? 500hp? win.

BMW 7 Series. One of James Bonds favorite cars.



Does it need to be AWD???:

Aston Martin Rapide - My favorite :drool:

Cadillac CTS-V - Really good bang for the buck

MB AMG models!

BMW M5 :thumbsup:

[C4S]

Best price?

Best style?

Best performance/speed/handling?

[89coupe]

Originally posted by C4S
Best price?

Best style?

Best performance/speed/handling?

Best all around AWD sedan over 300HP

[G-ZUS]

Originally posted by 89coupe
Lets hear your thoughts?

fixed

[you&me]

Originally posted by 89coupe


Best all around AWD sedan over 300HP

In that case, Panamara Turbo. Contemporary, ridiculously fast, all the toys, quite practical, prestigious, etc...

But I don't think that really helps you, so without more specifics, this is pointless.

[Phenix]

I like the subaru wrx sti. Easy to get some power and cheap enough to use as a daily driver. You can use it all winter long and bash around in the snow.

I'll have one for my winter beater within the next few years

[89coupe]

Originally posted by you&me


In that case, Panamara Turbo. Contemporary, ridiculously fast, all the toys, quite practical, prestigious, etc...

But I don't think that really helps you, so without more specifics, this is pointless.

Great specs, but man is it ugly...lol

[bituerbo]

Audi RS6
Twin Turbo V10 from a Lambo producing 570hp.

I have the A6, previous generation (C5) 2.7T Stage 3 making 400+ hp, and it's an absolute beast.

[atgilchrist]

For some reason I love the Panamara. In pics it looks terrible, but in person its proportions all seem to click (for me personally). It would be my pick for sure.

[kvg]

If you like infiniti go see the m37/56 awd:dunno:

[darthVWader]

The Acura TL

[CapnCrunch]

2011 Ford Mustang with awd mod and 4 door mod.

[Cos]

Originally posted by atgilchrist
For some reason I love the Panamara. In pics it looks terrible, but in person its proportions all seem to click (for me personally). It would be my pick for sure.

:werd: I actually really like them. Guy who parks near me at stamps games got one. I like it. I like the body kit one that was posted a while ago.

[you&me]

Originally posted by 89coupe


Great specs, but man is it ugly...lol

That's why in my first post, I said "with the right options"...

Most Panameras look gross, I'll agree. But a 4S or Turbo, with the air suspension option and 20" wheels (and in a dark exterior colour), they can look quite good. Plus, you don't know how ugly the rear end is from the driver's seat ;)

[beyond_ban]

HKS Plymouth Breeze

[bspot]

Originally posted by bituerbo
Audi RS6
Twin Turbo V10 from a Lambo producing 570hp.

I have the A6, previous generation (C5) 2.7T Stage 3 making 400+ hp, and it's an absolute beast. He said sedan. No new RS6 sedan.

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by bspot
He said sedan. No new RS6 sedan.

Also no new RS6 in North America (as I previously mentioned)

[bspot]

You can get them, you just have to pay ;)

[89coupe]

Originally posted by bspot
You can get them, you just have to pay ;)

Really? You know someone that has a 2010 or 2011 Audi RS6?

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by bspot
You can get them, you just have to pay ;)

Not unless your planning on becoming a European citizen, then coming back to Canada for work.

I'm assuming you're talking about Horchaus's attempt at importing them. It failed unfortunately.

http://www.horchaus.com/Car_imports.html


With regards to our project of bringing European models to Canada, we have to admit that we did not succeed.

We did not manage to work our way through the regulatory commissions to ensure that the cars indeed meet all North American regulations.

We had a strategy that we thought was appealing in importing pre-owned vehicles to a very competitive price but we could not finalize the legalization of these vehicles here without the appropriate collaborators.

We are very disapointed and humbly apologize for false hopes that the leak to the internet might have caused.

As a key player in Canada’s tuning and performance industry, we maintain our strong commitment to bringing you sophisticated, high-performance German engineering and personalized services to help you create the most memorable driving experience time and time again.

[Wrinkly]

<<<<<< :D

[shadowz]

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o93/shadowz940/untitled.jpg

I really like this one because its light colored. But this of course is the first Panamara I have seen that I like

[Xtrema]

My ride.

More leg room than RS4, just as fast. Torque vector AWD and 1/4 mile in high 12s and high 11s with ECU tune. Good on gas.

Typical Audi quality interior and relatively cheap, $55K get you one with no options.

Downside? No V8 and you start to see a lot on the road. S4 is the new 335i.

[arian_ma]

Originally posted by shadowz
I really like this one because its light colored. But this of course is the first Panamara I have seen that I like
That car looks decent. It's like Lady Ga Ga though, move the camera 6" to the right and BAM!

[max_boost]

S4 is PIMP.

There has to be a cap on price at least. LOL

Can't compare a $50k car to a $250k car haha

[A3GTiVR6SC]

<50K = EVO w/ FP HTA37r setup
>50k = RS4 w/mods

[redline]

What price range? new used? ever?

[SilverStreak]

New IS 350awd, will outlast all other cars previously mentioned :D

[AE92_TreunoSC]

S550 4matic easily, the A8 and 750i x drive are nice too, but I'm a sucker for benz and I find I prefer the styling and drive of the benz over the others.

Speed isnt everything, but its pretty quick.

[94boosted]

RS4 get's my vote. Panamera is just to ugly of a car despite it's performance.

[Wrinkly]

Originally posted by Xtrema
My ride.

Downside? No V8 and you start to see a lot on the road. S4 is the new 335i.

I've noticed that (they're getting common). Have you got the flappy paddle or manual?

LOVE the interior on the B8 though - superb.

[Nismo_R34]

M5 you cant say no to that sexy ass V10

[Aleks]

Originally posted by SilverStreak
New IS 350awd, will outlast all other cars previously mentioned :D

He might not fit inside, and switching from a G35 to IS350 wouldn't really be an upgrade which is what I'm guessing this thread is about :burnout:

[syeve]

Originally posted by Nismo_R34
M5 you cant say no to that sexy ass V10


:) Read gooder.

How can you argue against any of the big Audi's? S4, RS4, S6, new A8. All sex machines.

[Tomaz]

it may not be AWD, but I am sure the rest of the car makes up for it:

2011 Maybach 62 S

http://www.automild.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/2011-Maybach-62-S-body-design-588x441.jpg

http://www.automild.com/maybach-62-s-2011-luxury-sedan-car/

[el-nino]

VW PHAETON v12 hands down.
heres the reason:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pP-1jzh_yU

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Wrinkly


I've noticed that (they're getting common). Have you got the flappy paddle or manual?

LOVE the interior on the B8 though - superb.

flappy paddle. Don't want to deal the manual with traffic into downtown everyday. Only manual I'll get would be a weekend car.

Stasis finally released ECU tune. Similar to APR, adds about 40-50HP and about 30lb/ft. Stasis claims 410HP but a lot of those horses are unclaimed by Audi. The 333HP Audi claim is actually WHP, not crank.

[spacerz]

Bmw Alpina B7 x drive.

edit: why? Because it's fast, gorgeous and unique!

[Sugarphreak]

....

[Wrinkly]

Originally posted by Xtrema


flappy paddle. Don't want to deal the manual with traffic into downtown everyday. Only manual I'll get would be a weekend car.

Stasis finally released ECU tune. Similar to APR, adds about 40-50HP and about 30lb/ft. Stasis claims 410HP but a lot of those horses are unclaimed by Audi. The 333HP Audi claim is actually WHP, not crank.

quite understand that - had to do a couple (rare) downtown runs at rush hour in a manual recently, and got tired of that (so did my left foot) REALLY fast - couldn't imagine doing that every day again!

A friend has a flappy paddle 2011 S4 (he special ordered it - two tone interior, the works - lucky bugger) Listening to it drive away though, is really weird. When he shifts, it makes this weird little, almost 'fart' like noise and as for the engine; although I love the look and the interior, the noise it "doesn't" make is a killer for me. I know it's just as powerful and is more economical as it's predecessor, but it seems to have lost the whole point of the "S" badge since they took away the V8 (can't speak from a driving perspective as I haven't had the pleasure yet). Still a great car though - no doubt about that!

My "ideal" would be a 2011 body with the '08 lump and standard box in it and the only way I can have that, is to get an S5, which I don't really want, because I prefer four doors over two.

Can't decide whether to chip mine or not - it's thirsty enough as it is...

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Wrinkly


quite understand that - had to do a couple (rare) downtown runs at rush hour in a manual recently, and got tired of that (so did my left foot) REALLY fast - couldn't imagine doing that every day again!

A friend has a flappy paddle 2011 S4 (he special ordered it - two tone interior, the works - lucky bugger) Listening to it drive away though, is really weird. When he shifts, it makes this weird little, almost 'fart' like noise and as for the engine; although I love the look and the interior, the noise it &quot;doesn't&quot; make is a killer for me. I know it's just as powerful and is more economical as it's predecessor, but it seems to have lost the whole point of the &quot;S&quot; badge since they took away the V8 (can't speak from a driving perspective as I haven't had the pleasure yet). Still a great car though - no doubt about that!

My &quot;ideal&quot; would be a 2011 body with the '08 lump and standard box in it and the only way I can have that, is to get an S5, which I don't really want, because I prefer four doors over two.

Can't decide whether to chip mine or not - it's thirsty enough as it is...

No farting noise if you stay with 6sp, it's a by product of the S-tronic tranny.

Yeah, there are tons of exhausts mod out to trying to deal with the lack of sound issue. But you just can't beat the sound of a V8.

I'm sure Audi will only reserve the V8 for RS4/5 in the future. S5 vert is already moved on to 3.0T. Only S5 coupe still have the 4.2L.

[clem24]

Yeah this thread is so generic.. What price range? New? Used? Luxury? All out performance? G37x hasn't been mentioned yet.

Love the look of the RS4 but I'd say the B8 S4 gets my vote, just for sheer fact of increased rear leg room alone, very good looking sedan, and you can always pump up the HP to near RS4 levels fairly easily...

[89coupe]

An AWD 4 door sedan under $100K that makes more then 300HP and seats 4 people comfortably.

[Cos]

^^^ ur stuck with an Audi or MB me thinks

[redline]

or BMW...

[Cos]

.

[max_boost]

Originally posted by 89coupe
An AWD 4 door sedan under $100K that makes more then 300HP and seats 4 people comfortably.

So 335 or S4 :dunno

Definitely not WRX right? :rofl:

[r3ccOs]

Originally posted by bituerbo
Audi RS6
Twin Turbo V10 from a Lambo producing 570hp.

I have the A6, previous generation (C5) 2.7T Stage 3 making 400+ hp, and it's an absolute beast.

RS6 = Yes

[zipdoa]

RS2, no contest.

http://photos.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_622/car_photo_311239_7.jpg

[Hakkola]

Why do you think you need awd?

[lint]

Ford Taurus SHO?

[bosuteye]

RS6 gets my vote.

[ewan]

as for rs4 vs new s4,
i hope rear leg room wouldnt sway anyone away from the rs4. seriously i have never met anyone who drives with adults in the back on a daily basis.

[dirtsniffer]

since im broke ass, i would probably buy a volvo v70R, nice interior, lots of space, comfy, safe, and a pretty resonable sleeper

[Jlude]

S8 - meets all of your requirements.

[MGCM]

Originally posted by lint
Ford Taurus SHO?

I 2nd this opinion, great new car with TONS of new technology, awesome MPG, and plenty of power on tap.

[max_boost]

Originally posted by lint
Ford Taurus SHO?

Not bling enough man.

[avow]

Originally posted by redline
or BMW...
have you ever used bmw's awd system? :thumbsdow

[redline]

Originally posted by Jlude
S8 - meets all of your requirements.

no it does not.... it is not for sale in canada and an S6 is over a 100k fullly loaded

[redline]

Originally posted by max_boost


Not bling enough man.

true but you could go with the lincoln version and 89coupe likes his fords

[redline]

Originally posted by avow

have you ever used bmw's awd system? :thumbsdow

yes it is just fine, but as a corolla driver your standards and driving skill are on another level

[Aleks]

Originally posted by avow

have you ever used bmw's awd system? :thumbsdow

I thought the 335xi's AWD was awsome when I drove one last winter. :dunno:

[atgilchrist]

Originally posted by ewan
as for rs4 vs new s4,
i hope rear leg room wouldnt sway anyone away from the rs4. seriously i have never met anyone who drives with adults in the back on a daily basis.

But if he has have older kids/teenagers, he'll probably need that space.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by ewan
as for rs4 vs new s4,
i hope rear leg room wouldnt sway anyone away from the rs4. seriously i have never met anyone who drives with adults in the back on a daily basis.

While that's true, I had problem getting into the back of my friend's B7 and I'm under 6'.

Just wish that Audi will release a B8 RS4 in the next year or 2.


Originally posted by lint
Ford Taurus SHO?

You do get a big car for $50K but there are better performing cars than the SHO for that price. G37x

[Wrinkly]

Originally posted by Xtrema
Just wish that Audi will release a B8 RS4 in the next year or 2.

Oh god - dream come true! :drool: Don't think there will be one though. :(

OP - Lincoln MKS (not sure if that's the Ford equivalent others are on about). Has great space as far as I remember. Damned nice car - drove one to Vancouver and back with a teen in the back. I'd consider it and I used to hate fords but they've upped their game that much (my only beef with it was the lack of manual box).

[Euro_Trash]

Even with the lack of leg room, RS4 for me, no question

[Wrinkly]

Only down side with the RS4 (yes there is one..lol) would be the fuel consumption.

I find my S to be bad enough and the RS is worse. It seems I go into the City a couple times and half a tank is gone.

[Jlude]

Originally posted by redline


no it does not.... it is not for sale in canada and an S6 is over a 100k fullly loaded

Import one, and I didn't take his 100k requirement seriously, it's 89Coupe.

[Jlude]

Originally posted by Wrinkly
Only down side with the RS4 (yes there is one..lol) would be the fuel consumption.

I find my S to be bad enough and the RS is worse. It seems I go into the City a couple times and half a tank is gone.

Only downside? How about it's slow and the interior is dated.

[ewan]

Originally posted by Wrinkly
Only down side with the RS4 (yes there is one..lol) would be the fuel consumption.

I find my S to be bad enough and the RS is worse. It seems I go into the City a couple times and half a tank is gone.

bad fuel?
i get about 450 to the light comes on when your not raggin on it and then it takes about 55 litres to fill it back up! thats not terrible for a v8 powering 4 fat tires

[Wrinkly]

Originally posted by Jlude


Only downside? How about it's slow and the interior is dated.

Matter of opinion, I suppose :)


Originally posted by ewan


bad fuel?
i get about 450 to the light comes on when your not raggin on it and then it takes about 55 litres to fill it back up! thats not terrible for a v8 powering 4 fat tires

Hmmm - you drive like a granny?..lol I get about the same from my S. I also have an A4 for a daily and when that gets 700km per tank, yes - the S seems thirsty by comparison. Granted, 22mpg isn't "bad" for a V8 with over 300 horses ;)

[psycoticclown]

Originally posted by ewan


bad fuel?
i get about 450 to the light comes on when your not raggin on it and then it takes about 55 litres to fill it back up! thats not terrible for a v8 powering 4 fat tires

Lol, that's like the same fuel consumption my car has :banghead:

[bspot]

Originally posted by Wrinkly
Only down side with the RS4 (yes there is one..lol) would be the fuel consumption.

I find my S to be bad enough and the RS is worse. It seems I go into the City a couple times and half a tank is gone.

The RS4 is better on gas than an S4.

The downside is after 4 years so much carbon has built up on the heads that its just as slow as an S4 :rofl:

[ewan]

Originally posted by bspot


The RS4 is better on gas than an S4.

The downside is after 4 years so much carbon has built up on the heads that its just as slow as an S4 :rofl:

clean that sh*t, and youll get better gas and power haw haw

[Toma]

Hemi Charger SRT8 AWD

Rare, can seat 5 adults no problem, nice interior, reliable as all hell. Great suspension.

[Toma]

If you cant find the AWD SRT-8 version, the AWD RT Version is still a 340hp+ Hemi

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by Toma
Hemi Charger SRT8 AWD

Rare, can seat 5 adults no problem, nice interior, reliable as all hell. Great suspension.

Do the R/T's or SRT-8's even have the option for manual transmission or is it just the 5 speed auto?

[PulsePro]

Originally posted by 89coupe


Not much room in the back seats though. Not the most practical 4 door sedan.

I'm thinking the Audi S6 would make more sense.

I think you're referring the the Continental GT which is a 2 door, 4-5 seater coupe. I have trouble sitting in the back. However, the flying spur has plenty of leg room. I'm about 6 foot 2.

[you&me]

Originally posted by PulsePro


I think you're referring the the Continental GT which is a 2 door, 4-5 seater coupe. I have trouble sitting in the back. However, the flying spur has plenty of leg room. I'm about 6 foot 2.

That must have been one of those rare 5-seat CGTs ;) Plus, in the post you quoted, 89Coupe was referring to the RS4...

(All CGTs are 2+2s... I guess you could fit 3 in the back if you wanna get cozy)


Edit - I can't believe we're all taking this seriously and actually offering suggestions.

[Toma]

Originally posted by 403Gemini


Do the R/T's or SRT-8's even have the option for manual transmission or is it just the 5 speed auto?

Good question.... The SRT-8's come with manuals, but I think all the AWD are auto.

It's a kick ass car, love that tranny... slap the shifter to the left, and bam! I've yet to lose a race, and my damn car only runs low 14's.... Still great for one of the only real fullsize cars on the market.

[ercchry]

buuump

seems like this segment has evolved a lot this year... i cant keep track of all the offerings

so we have... ?

CLA45 (coming this fall)
S3 (coming... next spring?)
fusion (yeah... its a little light on the power, but still a decent offering)
buick regal
cadillac ats

i feel like im missing a few?

[Graham_A_M]

Cadi ATS is a damn good start.
The Regal GNX should be epic though.

[ercchry]

forgot about the volvo!

S60 T6

... so close to the CLA45 price wise... but a touch slower

[blitz]

Got to page 5 before I realized it was an old thread. Was wondering why someone recommended a 2010 S4 :rofl:

[Masked Bandit]

Dodge Charger R/T is available in AWD. I think it's a great looking car. 375 HP & 395 lbs / ft of torque is more than enough jam to get you into trouble.

[dirtsniffer]

335xi? 535xi?

[flipstah]

Maserati Quattroporte.

[rizfarmer]

Originally posted by flipstah
Maserati Quattroporte.

Realistic sedan? You're a vw boy.... So cc sedan??? It's real nice....almost bought one; went Hyundai