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TheXplosion
01-05-2004, 01:38 AM
Well I just went out and bought Call Of Duty and tryed to install it on my computer,then this message keeps poping up saying......

Your video card appears to be missing one or more features required to run Call of Duty.

You should install the latest drivers for your video card, being sure to uninstall the old drivers first. If you already have the latest drivers, you should completely uninstall the drivers and then reinstall them. This fixes most problems. If the game still doesn't work, it may be that your video card does not have the minimum features required. Please check the readme for more information, including a list of supported video cards.



:bullshit:

What does this mean,someone mensioned getting a new video card, would that be all I need to get or do I even need to get a new one and how much would it cost me.

16MB ATI Rage 128 Ultra is what I have for a video card.

Thx

Davetronz
01-05-2004, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by TheXplosion
16MB ATI Rage 128 Ultra is what I have for a video card.

Yup 16 MB card isnt going to get you very far.... ;)

This is one of the game requirements....
3D Hardware Accelerator Card required - 100% DirectX 9.0b compatible 32 MB hardware T & L-capable; video card and latest drivers

TheXplosion
01-05-2004, 12:09 PM
so a 32mb video card will then make it work?

Thx

Khyron
01-05-2004, 01:31 PM
Buy a gf4 - you can get them pretty cheap. Pretty much 128 megs is the standard. I'd spend 200 bucks on a card, it should keep you in the games for a year or 2. Avoid the cheap "MX" versions as you can get non crippled versions for a few bucks extra.

Khyron

TheXplosion
01-05-2004, 03:27 PM
so that gforce4 is going for about $200, how much would a 64mb one cost, how much GB is a gforce3.

And does anyone have one for sale.


Thx

ShOwOfF
01-05-2004, 03:44 PM
yea i have the same problem. Tried to play nfs on my laptop only to find it has 8mb of memory :banghead:

Khyron
01-05-2004, 04:55 PM
You can get an ATI 9600 for 149-169.

Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9600 128MB for 169 or the SE for 149.

Both should play any current games. However, how fast is your computer?

Khyron

Shaolin
01-05-2004, 04:56 PM
get like a 128MB minimum.. 16mb cards, i didn't know those still exist.. wait a sec, i have an 8 meg secondary video that I play pong with.

Davetronz
01-06-2004, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by Shaolin
get like a 128MB minimum.. 16mb cards, i didn't know those still exist.. wait a sec, i have an 8 meg secondary video that I play pong with.
Whoa, talk about over kill!
Pong will play on 2 MB onboard ;)

TheXplosion
01-06-2004, 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Khyron
You can get an ATI 9600 for 149-169.

Sapphire Atlantis Radeon 9600 128MB for 169 or the SE for 149.

Both should play any current games. However, how fast is your computer?

Khyron

Ummm its a 1.6ghz with 256mb ram and a 40gb hard drive...

Any other specs you need to know, would my sound card effect the game at all?

Thx

ugotahondaeh?
01-06-2004, 11:02 AM
There are many factors involved before goin' out and buyin' a video card. First you need to know if your motherboard even supports an aftermarket video card. Make sure your computer as an AGP slot. If it does, you need to know whether it's runnin' at 4X or 8X. There's no sense of goin' out and spendin' $200+ on a 8X AGP video card only have it be bottle necked by a 4X AGP slot. If you don't have an AGP slot, i believe you can buy a dence PCI video card with 128megs of RAM for 'bout $150.00, maybe less. It's best to buy a video card that is compatible with your computer's setup rather then throw money away by goin' out and buyin' the best video card only to use 1/4 or 1/2 of the card's full potential. Only do this if you plan to update your setup in the near future.

Hope this helps.

Khyron
01-06-2004, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by TheXplosion


Ummm its a 1.6ghz with 256mb ram and a 40gb hard drive...

Any other specs you need to know, would my sound card effect the game at all?

Thx

Nah - as long as that's not some weird Compaq/HP computer, it should have an AGP slot (Check anyways - it's brown) and you can go buy a new card. I just was making sure you didn't have like a Celeron 333 or something really old which would make the card useless

Whether it's 4 or 8x doesn't really matter - you'll be having such a night/day experience you won't notice 2% one way or the other.

Khyron

TheXplosion
01-06-2004, 09:44 PM
ic, thx for the help, one more thing how would i know if i have one of these AGP slots, by the way I have a Dell Dimension 4300, if someone can check if it does have one that'd help

Thx

Khyron
01-06-2004, 10:32 PM
AGP connector: one
AGP connector size: 172 pins
AGP connector data width (maximum): 32 bits
AGP bus protocols: 4x/2x modes at 1.5 V

Open your case and look at all the cards/slots. The top one (closest to the power) will be brown and slightly offset to the other white ones. It's the agp slot. When you get a new card you pop it in.

If you buy it from Memory express/techtronics/whatever - just tell them it's a dell dimension 4300 with a 4x AGP slot. Most AGP slots are the same but there ARE a few odd ones which the card sales guy should be aware of (the card physically doesn't fit if it's the weird kind).

Khyron

TheXplosion
01-07-2004, 12:37 AM
:clap: Thx allot for all your help...

Thx All

hampstor
01-07-2004, 12:56 AM
I hear this a lot... 'this card is better because it has more memory'... 'get this card because it has 256mb while the other has only 128'

When buying a video card, you should NOT LOOK completely at how much memory a card has. You need also to look at core speed, memory speed, type of memory, texture units, piplines, what version of DirectX it will do FULL HARDWARE ACCELERATION, memory bus, T&L.. etc.

If you try and Compare a Radeon 9200SE w/ 128MB DDR vs GeForce4 Ti4200 64mb you will find that the 9200SE will get destroyed by the GF4. It is like comparing a Pentium 4 2.0GHz with 256mb of ram vs a Pentium 2 300MHz w/ 512mb of ram.

Games have to be designed to use a certain amount of onboard video memory. Most games on the market do not use more then 64MB of actual video memory. They will use MORE memory, but they will use 64mb off the video card and then the rest on system ram (that's why they developed the AGP Bus - more direct access to memory vs going through the PCI bus). There are more and more games comming out today that can take advantage of 128mb of video memory.

Buy the video card that is best suited for your game, but do not go crazy overboard. The cards you should be looking at are in ascending order:

GeForceFX 5200
Radeon 9600
Radeon 9600XT / GeForceFX 5700
Radeon 9800 pro
Radeon 9800XT

(9600 pro left out due to small price margin between pro -> xt)

Skip the ATi 9xxxSE models. Even the 9800SE is outperformed by the 9600pro.

hampstor
01-07-2004, 01:05 AM
Originally posted by ugotahondaeh?
There's no sense of goin' out and spendin' $200+ on a 8X AGP video card only have it be bottle necked by a 4X AGP slot. .


If you buy a GeForce FX5200 and run it on an 8x vs 4x board, you will not see any improvement. The 8x slot isnt faster, it is a larger bus capable of transfering more information in one shot. It's like taking a 4 lane highway and expanding it to 6 lanes. If you only have 2 cars running down it originally, the increased lanes are useless. In reality, though the AGP8X (AGP3.0 spec) allows 2.1GB/s of bandwidth, there are still a LOT of games that will not saturate the 4x bus (there are games that will take advantage of the 8x bus though)

Khyron
01-07-2004, 01:05 AM
I suggested the 9600 - where are you getting the 9200 stuff from? He balked at a 200$ card so I suggested 160ish with the option to go SE for 149 (slower, but cheaper - you don't get a free lunch). The 9600 is the best value card on the market (at the moment).

The 9800XT is over 600 dollars - why even suggest it?

Khyron

hampstor
01-07-2004, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by Khyron
I suggested the 9600 - where are you getting the 9200 stuff from? He balked at a 200$ card so I suggested 160ish with the option to go SE for 149 (slower, but cheaper - you don't get a free lunch). The 9600 is the best value card on the market (at the moment).

The 9800XT is over 600 dollars - why even suggest it?

Khyron

I was comparing how the amount of memory on a video card does not tell you how fast the card is (responding to a few posts about how some cards are better because they have more memory)

I'm not saying get the 9800xt. If you read again, that list is a list of cards from low end to high end that he should be looking at. I agreed with you with the 9600 (it is on the list!)

I left the 9600SE off the list because quite frankly, it is a waste of money.

hampstor
01-07-2004, 01:37 AM
Also if you want to see how these cards compare in CALL OF DUTY:

http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/vga-charts-05.html

Keep in mind this is THG and he is slightly biased... and that the system is an Athlon XP 2700+ running an nForce2 chip.

Khyron
01-07-2004, 02:17 AM
Damn that's whacked - my old POS 4200 TI is still way up there yet I'm already looking at upgrades...? :dunno: :confused: Ah well ATI baffles me. Such a difference between 9600 and 9600SE - blech.

Khyron