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kvg
12-07-2010, 06:31 PM
I just read this.

" The Federation Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA) will be sitting down on December 10 to vote on technical specification changes for the 2013 Formula One season, and the biggest change expected to be announced will be regarding the engines.

Rumors are circulating the web about the possibility of a return to four-cylinder, turbo charged engines. The last time a Formula One race car used a four cylinder unit was back in 1988. Since then, the engines have grown in size and the cylinder count has varied, but all engines have been normally aspirated.

The FIA wants to increase fuel-efficiency by 50% and the only logical way to achieve that it seems is to go with smaller engines with turbo chargers. Since many road cars these days have small, turbo charged engines to improve their efficiency, this move would increase public demand for such engines.

BBC Sport reports that great measures are being taken to ensure the speed of the sport is not sacrificed to achieve their goals, so the new 1.6-liter motors will still be able to produce around 750 hp, even though engine revs will also be limited to 10,000 rpm – current engines spin up to 18,000 rpm.

However, not everyone is in favor of these smaller engines. Mercedes-Benz and Ferrari are reluctant about the spec changes, and even F1 boss Bernie Ecclestone has voiced his dislike for such huge specification changes. He believes these changes will cost a lot of money, especially in an era when all teams are trying to save money.

The final decision will be announced in a few days time, so watch this space for an update."

Source: http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2010/12/formula-1-could-return-to-turbo-4-cylinder-engines-for-2013-season.html

Redlyne_mr2
12-07-2010, 06:36 PM
awesome!

AE92_TreunoSC
12-07-2010, 06:39 PM
I wonder if monster trucks will ever be concerned about fuel economy haha

Shows the progressive nature of F1 sport, very cool to hear.

GTS4tw
12-07-2010, 06:39 PM
2013 f1 cars might use 1.6 4cyl motors.

fixed.

v2kai
12-07-2010, 06:47 PM
SPOON 10Krpm B16A2 turbo??¿??:dunno:

...someone had to say it:rofl:

I think it'd be pretty cool.

kvg
12-07-2010, 07:10 PM
Spraying vtec yo!!!!!:burnout:

Chandler_Racing
01-13-2011, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
awesome!

A tiny engine that spins to 10,000rpm, with a $400M budget is awesome!?! :rofl:

dimi
01-13-2011, 11:39 AM
I am not a big F1 follower, but I think this is a bunch of bs.

Much rather see a V12 revving to the moon than this.

kvg
01-13-2011, 12:00 PM
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texasnick
01-19-2011, 05:06 PM
Do none of you guys remember the late 80's 1.5L's?

They were great engines.

I think it will be cool to see what everyone comes up with.

Unknown303
01-19-2011, 05:21 PM
I think this day and age it's a cool progressive move for them.

It would be funny as hell to see monster trucks take the same approach, maybe go to torquey fuel efficient diesel engines or something.

Sil80_D
03-24-2011, 01:46 PM
those reduced rev's are going to save the manufacturers sooo many blown engines lol

should make for more reliable cars and a more competitive field

@dimi
F1 is entirely about the advancement and showcase of technology, not how many cylinders you can stuff.

streethondas
03-24-2011, 02:13 PM
Originally posted by v2kai
SPOON 10Krpm B16A2 turbo??¿??:dunno:

...someone had to say it:rofl:

I think it'd be pretty cool.

I was thinking more of the b16b supercharged reving to 10k :rofl:

ShermanEF9
03-24-2011, 04:31 PM
im all for the smaller engines. that will make it fun... but limiting RPMs is a bit much. would eliminate the "sound" of an F1 car.

95EagleAWD
03-24-2011, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Sil80_D

F1 is entirely about the advancement and showcase of technology, not how many cylinders you can stuff.

Then it's failing, big time. IndyCar is going to have more advanced engines than this next year.

slinkie
03-24-2011, 06:04 PM
WTF? Imo high-revving NA engines have a lot more character than FI, it's 2011 not 1988 anymore. Any high school kid can save his allowance and boost his 1.6 to 500hp. (not saying it will be drivable or reliable)

When I think of modern F1 I think of mind blowing innovative techs like KERS and amazing NA engines revving to the sky.

Although I'm sure once I see/hear the cars I might change my mind LOL

4lti
03-24-2011, 06:26 PM
Originally posted by ShermanEF9
im all for the smaller engines. that will make it fun... but limiting RPMs is a bit much. would eliminate the "sound" of an F1 car.

fhM_A-HkAfs&
These ones sound sick and they have small engines.

ShermanEF9
03-24-2011, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by 4lti


fhM_A-HkAfs&
These ones sound sick and they have small engines.


i dont think you even read my post.

Boosted_TL
03-25-2011, 10:19 AM
This may well be the usual case of a rumor created via a bunch of ass clowns sitting around a table with too much time on their hands (kind of like the government)

So with fuel economy of 50% less being the "goal" how much money is involved changing and creating all those new motors, selling off existing materials that may never be used again. I would say without worry, an absolute boat load more than keeping things the way they are and consuming the fuel the motors do currently.

To be more efficient in life, always costs money. Its the PR, advertising and marketing that makes it "appealing" and interesting to the general public.

FI is a science and a beautiful science at that. Fuck fuel economy, lets race!

slinkie
03-25-2011, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Boosted_TL
This may well be the usual case of a rumor created via a bunch of ass clowns sitting around a table with too much time on their hands (kind of like the government)

So with fuel economy of 50% less being the "goal" how much money is involved changing and creating all those new motors, selling off existing materials that may never be used again. I would say without worry, an absolute boat load more than keeping things the way they are and consuming the fuel the motors do currently.

To be more efficient in life, always costs money. Its the PR, advertising and marketing that makes it "appealing" and interesting to the general public.

FI is a science and a beautiful science at that. Fuck fuel economy, lets race!

Maybe if it is true, they're hoping these standards will promote new efficiency techs that can trickle down to production cars