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zipdoa
12-08-2010, 07:58 PM
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tobypaddock
12-08-2010, 08:21 PM
subscribed!

CMW403
12-08-2010, 08:44 PM
verrrrry excited for this Mike!

corsvette
12-08-2010, 09:39 PM
These are truly amazing cars! I owned one for a short time and regret selling it, but i'm happy it went to a Audi nut who will care for it. To me it's the sound of that 5cyl is pure music, no other cars have that growl like a Audi 5.

Good luck on the build, it looks like a clean car.:D

redblack
12-08-2010, 09:43 PM
sweet ride man, I love these old S4's but could never find a decent one for sale. Any rust on it?

pf0sh0
12-08-2010, 09:43 PM
Fuck man, I love this car.

I remember I had my eye on a black on black 93 urs4 only 140,000kms. Fucking looooooooved it. Deal fell through though.

can't wait to see it!!

R-Audi
12-09-2010, 09:29 AM
If you want, I can put you in touch with a few local guys who are into the 5cyl engines... mostly S2 and RS2 conversions. (And one real RS2!)

Should be a beast with a GT30 on it!

zipdoa
12-09-2010, 10:03 AM
Originally posted by R-Audi
If you want, I can put you in touch with a few local guys who are into the 5cyl engines... mostly S2 and RS2 conversions. (And one real RS2!)

Should be a beast with a GT30 on it!

I've heard the rumours...

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4361012023_071ae418ff.jpg

You should put me in touch! I would love to go for a ride in any sort of B3/B4 20vt!

And yea, with the GT3071R kit, RS2 EM and DP/Exhaust, 034 shows 347WHP:

http://www.034motorsport.com/oscthumbwm/w/800/h/465/q/95/f/jpg/fltr/wmi%7CphpThumb/watermarks/034watermark%7CC%7C20%7C0/hash/bbbb2edef660739a6071ab5a4f8a869f/src/images/AANChipSet350whp.jpg

But to be honest, I haven't ruled out the GT2871R kit... I have much research to do. seems like with the FMIC 350WHP should be attainable. This dyno is the same as the 3071 - RS2 EM, DP/Exhaust.

http://www.034motorsport.com/oscthumbwm/w/800/h/480/q/95/f/png/fltr/wmi%7CphpThumb/watermarks/034watermark%7CC%7C20%7C0/hash/bbbb2edef660739a6071ab5a4f8a869f/src/images/034_AAN_2871_STAGE1.png

or the GT28RS?!? (354tq @ wheels sounds fun)

http://www.034motorsport.com/oscthumbwm/w/850/h/657/q/95/f/jpg/fltr/wmi%7CphpThumb/watermarks/034watermark%7CC%7C20%7C0/hash/bbbb2edef660739a6071ab5a4f8a869f/src/images/034_AAN_28RS_Stage_1DYNO.jpg

n1zm0
12-09-2010, 10:37 AM
props for wanting to tackle an early 90's audi, something i would never do voluntarily, but they're pimp cars for their time, deutschland mafia style.

seat bottom extensions ftw!

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Dave P
12-09-2010, 11:21 AM
AWESOME!

Love the 90's audi's

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Quadrifoglio
12-09-2010, 11:26 AM
Subscribed! Should be pretty sick after all of the mods.

kvg
12-09-2010, 11:34 AM
I've always liked these cars.:thumbsup: I personally would to build an old Volvo T5R wagon with an 5cyl turbo also. Props for building an older Audi.

projekz
12-09-2010, 11:46 AM
What's your timeline for the build? I'm really interested to see this unfold. I always loved these cars.

zipdoa
12-09-2010, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by redblack
sweet ride man, I love these old S4's but could never find a decent one for sale. Any rust on it?

Nothing major, mostly rock chips on the hood.


Originally posted by n1zm0
props for wanting to tackle an early 90's audi, something i would never do voluntarily, but they're pimp cars for their time, deutschland mafia style.

seat bottom extensions ftw!

subscribed

The straight 5 layout in the larger C4 chassis (remember this would later become the S6/A6, not an A4) allows for plenty of room to do maintenance. These really are the easiest of all the S-cars to work on.


Originally posted by tobypaddock
subscribed!


Originally posted by CMW403
verrrrry excited for this Mike!


Originally posted by corsvette
These are truly amazing cars! I owned one for a short time and regret selling it, but i'm happy it went to a Audi nut who will care for it. To me it's the sound of that 5cyl is pure music, no other cars have that growl like a Audi 5.

Good luck on the build, it looks like a clean car.:D


Originally posted by pf0sh0
Fuck man, I love this car.

I remember I had my eye on a black on black 93 urs4 only 140,000kms. Fucking looooooooved it. Deal fell through though.

can't wait to see it!!


Originally posted by n1zm0
props for wanting to tackle an early 90's audi, something i would never do voluntarily, but they're pimp cars for their time, deutschland mafia style.

seat bottom extensions ftw!

subscribed


Originally posted by Dave P
AWESOME!

Love the 90's audi's

subscribed


Originally posted by Quadrifoglio
Subscribed! Should be pretty sick after all of the mods.


Originally posted by kvg
I've always liked these cars. I personally would to build an old Volvo T5R wagon with an 5cyl turbo also. Props for building an older Audi.

:thumbsup:


:burnout: :burnout:
:burnout: :burnout:


Originally posted by projekz
What's your timeline for the build? I'm really interested to see this unfold. I always loved these cars.

I think by New Years Part 1 should be done... that's all I'll be able to afford right away.

Part 2 would be nice to have done by May and Part 3 for the end of the summer.

zipdoa
01-03-2011, 04:38 PM
YAY! Most of the parts are here... still need to get the control arm hardware up front before I can do suspension... and on that note, I will be sending my Bilsteins back to the factory for revalving... I'm keeping the same compression but want about 25-35% more rebound.

http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/1351/urs4parts.jpg

zipdoa
01-24-2011, 10:48 AM
RS2 HO Exhaust manifold arrived with the gasket kit.... :drool:

Will have pics later tonight. Got it for $700... 034 lists for $1299 + $175 gasket kit + shipping! Love audifans.com ....

ALSO, managed to snag these for $475 with 2 sets of pads. They will be mounted with 323mm Audi S8 rotors and RS2 caliper adapters + SS brakelines. I fucking love cross-compatibility.

Bigs reds... mine are black.

http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i18/1891_11lo.jpg

D. Dub
01-24-2011, 11:22 AM
Cool. I've always like the shape/design of those cars.

Euro_Trash
01-24-2011, 11:50 AM
Sounds well thought out :thumbsup:

zipdoa
01-24-2011, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by Euro_Trash
Sounds well thought out :thumbsup:

about 6 months of planning and countless hours researching the best combination of modifications. Quattroworld has been the biggest help by far in helping me sort out what bits to go with as far as aggressive DD's go.

I'm actually more excited to see how well it STOPS than to see how well it goes!

tobypaddock
01-24-2011, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by zipdoa
ALSO, managed to snag these for $475 with 2 sets of pads. I fucking love cross-compatibility.

Bigs reds... mine are black.

http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i18/1891_11lo.jpg

Those are gonna be deadly!
Where did u pick them up? I just picked up some s4 front brakes for my car but am looking for a place for decent pads and s/s lines that wont burn me on shipping to Canada...

zipdoa
01-24-2011, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by tobypaddock


Those are gonna be deadly!
Where did u pick them up? I just picked up some s4 front brakes for my car but am looking for a place for decent pads and s/s lines that wont burn me on shipping to Canada...

backdoor ebay transaction... seller asking $600USD, i found them at Orgeon Porsche parts dealer for $600USD new, bargained down to $475USD with 2x pads.

Which S4 front brakes did you get? 92-94 are Girling 60's.

tobypaddock
01-24-2011, 04:33 PM
Mine are from a b5 so they are HP2's I believe (haha I'm part of the newer Audi generation that you aren't too fond of, but I love older audis too!)

zipdoa
02-11-2011, 04:27 PM
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/943/porschebbk3.jpg
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7270/porschebbk2.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/1992/porschebbk.jpg

zipdoa
02-17-2011, 10:02 AM
Getting so close to my goal... it's fucking killing me!!!! Found a completely rebuilt RS2 Turbo online for $850 shipped, I got 2nd dibs... hopefully the first buyer falls through!!

Meanwhile, here's some RS2 Manifold goodness

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/1163/img1145y.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6565/img1144vj.jpg
http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/2332/img1137bg.jpg

zipdoa
06-11-2011, 11:53 AM
Small update and a bit of progress.

Sold the Big Blacks and Bilstein Sport struts. I'm going to go for Brembo F50's off a D2 S8 (slightly larger pistons and proper orientation for pad removal) and buying a set of blown bilstein sports because they're getting revalved anyway.

Removed the strut assembly/tie rod/control arm/cv . When it's nice outside I'll install the new bits and get this thing running again.

Anyone want to donate money to a good cause =)?


Before
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/3886/29747740.jpg
After
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2416/img1302ph.jpg

zipdoa
12-10-2011, 12:45 PM
Bump... Project back up and running. Different UrS4, Bigger goals, moar turbos.

cam_wmh
12-10-2011, 01:21 PM
win. fucking win.

schocker
12-10-2011, 01:27 PM
Shieeeeet
Never saw this thread before. Looks good. I have been more interested in the urs4/s6 lately as they are older, but still look great. :thumbsup:

dimi
12-10-2011, 06:14 PM
OK clarify this for me. I see you saying that older audis are better. However I am sure you can get any sort of differential upgrades for the B5+ audis that will suit your handing needs, no?

For example. I am looking into impoting an evo 9 and there are literally 4 rear diff options and 3+ front diff options as well as reflashing the active centre diff to get any combination of handling that you want.

I assume this is the same for every gen. audi.

zipdoa
12-10-2011, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by dimi
OK clarify this for me. I see you saying that older audis are better. However I am sure you can get any sort of differential upgrades for the B5+ audis that will suit your handing needs, no?

For example. I am looking into impoting an evo 9 and there are literally 4 rear diff options and 3+ front diff options as well as reflashing the active centre diff to get any combination of handling that you want.

I assume this is the same for every gen. audi.

It's really not about the diffs. It's about build quality, powerplant selection, ease of maintenance and cool factor.

Plus, UrS seats are second-to-none

It's also about being able to make 440hp for under $10k, including the cost of the car.

dimi
12-12-2011, 03:24 PM
Cool man, good luck.

PS go with the smaller turbo (2871 I think, there is a GTX version out now too). Turbo lag on a DD is just annoying.

zipdoa
12-12-2011, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by dimi
Cool man, good luck.

PS go with the smaller turbo (2871 I think, there is a GTX version out now too). Turbo lag on a DD is just annoying.

2871 was my first choice, especially a GTX2871 (didnt know they made that wheel yet for the 28 trim), but I got a KILLER deal on the 3071R..

Plus, the 3071R makes full boost @ 3000RPM with the RS2 Evo Manifold and 034 exhaust, both of which I have purchased. So I get lots of RPM's to play with, as the engine revs to 7200RPM.

The 3071R also gives me room to make a little more power when I put in rods and bearings.

Cheeba
12-14-2011, 11:56 AM
Sweet ride, Zip! If I can find a decent UrS4 in Calgary or Regina, I think I might pick one up.

Good call on the 3071R - I love mine. What A/R did you get? With your displacement the 3071R won't be laggy at all; in fact, I would have went 3076R on 2.2L. Mine spools very quickly, but I am running 10:1 compression (on 2.0L). If I keep the TT for much longer, I'll put in a HTA 3076R.

3071R can put down some serious power though _I've seen well-sorted cars dyno in the 450-500wHP range, and traps well into the 11s.

zipdoa
12-14-2011, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Cheeba
Sweet ride, Zip! If I can find a decent UrS4 in Calgary or Regina, I think I might pick one up.

Good call on the 3071R - I love mine. What A/R did you get? With your displacement the 3071R won't be laggy at all; in fact, I would have went 3076R on 2.2L. Mine spools very quickly, but I am running 10:1 compression (on 2.0L). If I keep the TT for much longer, I'll put in a HTA 3076R.

3071R can put down some serious power though _I've seen well-sorted cars dyno in the 450-500wHP range, and traps well into the 11s.

I wanted the quickest spool so a 3071R w/ .63AR made the most sense. Plus, I bought everything second hand from a UrS6 being parted, so it what I wanted just happened to be what was available.

The limit on the stock bottom end is 400WTQ, so 358WTQ is plenty for me. I don't want to have to do rods right away, so the 3071 will be more than enough. Apparently the boost threshold is much lower on the 71 vs the 76, so it makes more sense as a daily driver anyway.

Cheeba
12-16-2011, 03:09 PM
Yeah, .63 3071 would be a perfect turbo for a daily on a stock-compression UrS4, IMO.

Do you guys need to do anything but rods to get ~500wTQ? What can you rev out to without valve-train work? How does the stock head flow?

zipdoa
12-17-2011, 12:52 PM
Originally posted by Cheeba
Yeah, .63 3071 would be a perfect turbo for a daily on a stock-compression UrS4, IMO.

Do you guys need to do anything but rods to get ~500wTQ? What can you rev out to without valve-train work? How does the stock head flow?

Technically rods are all you need, but it's a good idea to go RS2 bearings, MLS HG and ARP studs at the same time.

Stock valve-train revs safely to 7200RPM, and the stock head with 7A cams will flow north of 550WHP.

tig321
12-31-2011, 06:56 PM
Subscribed! Glad to see this thread isn't dead. I've got a buddy with a couple of these I should point this way. He's also doing a resto on a 2dr quattro sport coupe, I think that's what they called them, you know the ones with factory flares like the old group B cars. He's audi/vw tech but loves the older cars.

ricosuave
01-01-2012, 02:45 PM
for anyone else wanting to get into these...

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-Audi-UrS4-W0QQAdIdZ342338076

zipdoa
01-02-2012, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by ricosuave
for anyone else wanting to get into these...

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-Audi-UrS4-W0QQAdIdZ342338076

I did see that one before I bought mine... he's been selling it for over 2 months and had it listed for $2k for a bit. Steering rack is a PITA and it is by far the dirtiest UrS i've ever been in.

corsvette
01-02-2012, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by zipdoa


I did see that one before I bought mine... he's been selling it for over 2 months and had it listed for $2k for a bit. Steering rack is a PITA and it is by far the dirtiest UrS i've ever been in.

I was thinking of having a look at that car to use as an ice racer only as it looked a wee bit rough in pictures. He had it listed for 2k now its up to 3k ?? I would imagine a steering rack is at least a grand to start.

zipdoa
01-02-2012, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by corsvette


I was thinking of having a look at that car to use as an ice racer only as it looked a wee bit rough in pictures. He had it listed for 2k now its up to 3k ?? I would imagine a steering rack is at least a grand to start.

Rebuilt is about $400, you could also send the one in there for reman.

It drove nicely, but the 034 hoses aren't mounted/fitting nicely and they leak fluids.

Has a forge splitter for extra ricey noises.

The owner is a tech, but it seems like the UrS4 was his guinea pig, not his project car.

There was shitloads of sawdust in the car last time I saw it. It was a good example that was let go.

Let me know if you do pick it up, I'd like to buy the strut tower bar from it.

Cheeba
05-01-2012, 02:16 AM
Any updates on this beast?