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Calgal25
01-03-2011, 08:56 PM
Hi,

I have a chevy Aveo (fully loaded) that I got in May of 2008 on lease. Currently the car has 38,000 clicks on it and this is my third year with the car. I am on a 5 yr lease and want to get out of the lease to purchase/lease a new car. How do I go about getting out of the lease?? <what are my options :(>

Any help would be great :)

Thanks!

B20EF
01-03-2011, 09:01 PM
You can have someone take over your lease. At Honda it was a $500 name transfer fee and someone can just take it over. You may have to walk away from your down payment though, depends on your negotiating skills with new owner.

Cos
01-03-2011, 09:06 PM
3 options (usually, have to check with GMAC or whoever you're through).

1.) Sell Car... Pay out lease with penalties
2.) Trade car... stealership pays out lease with penalties
3.) Have someone take over the lease

That.Guy.S30
01-03-2011, 09:07 PM
you can also trade in your lease. depends on what they give you for trade-in value. would have to pay off the balance on your lease with the trade-in value.

you can also sell it. pay off the balance of the car.

max_boost
01-03-2011, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Cos
3 options (usually, have to check with GMAC or whoever you're through).

1.) Sell Car... Pay out lease with penalties
2.) Trade car... stealership pays out lease with penalties
3.) Have someone take over the lease

What do you mean penalties?

Basically find out how much you owe, for example $10,000.

How much is your car worth? If you sell it for less than your buyout, you put up the difference.

Calgal25
01-03-2011, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by B20EF
You can have someone take over your lease. At Honda it was a $500 name transfer fee and someone can just take it over. You may have to walk away from your down payment though, depends on your negotiating skills with new owner.



Do dealerships let you transfer lease easily... I mean $500 isnt a big deal at all... are there usually alot of difficulties in getting someone to take over the lease?

Calgal25
01-03-2011, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by max_boost


What do you mean penalties?

Basically find out how much you owe, for example $10,000.

How much is your car worth? If you sell it for less than your buyout, you put up the difference.


I own a chevy aveo 5 door fully loaded, i bought it at prime value before the recession and after GM's decline and car market falling its not worth much i bet!

I own about 8k on my lease and a brand new chevy aveo same car is about 15k in the market right now (brand new)!

So im not sure how to go about this ...

max_boost
01-03-2011, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by Calgal25




Do dealerships let you transfer lease easily... I mean $500 isnt a big deal at all... are there usually alot of difficulties in getting someone to take over the lease?

Question 1: Yes

Question 2: Depends

People will generally take over someone's lease if it's a good deal.

Calgal25
01-03-2011, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by max_boost


Question 1: Yes

Question 2: Depends

People will generally take over someone's lease if it's a good deal. \


What would a good deal be in my case?

max_boost
01-03-2011, 09:35 PM
Originally posted by Calgal25



I own a chevy aveo 5 door fully loaded, i bought it at prime value before the recession and after GM's decline and car market falling its not worth much i bet!

I own about 8k on my lease and a brand new chevy aveo same car is about 15k in the market right now (brand new)!

So im not sure how to go about this ...

You owe $8000. Can you sell the car for $8000?

If you sell the car for $7000, you have to pony up the other $1000.

Make sense?

If you need more help, send a private message to my buddy EK2.0 and he'll guide you through the process. :thumbsup:

Cos
01-03-2011, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by max_boost


What do you mean penalties?

Basically find out how much you owe, for example $10,000.

How much is your car worth? If you sell it for less than your buyout, you put up the difference.

Sorry, penalties may have been the wrong word. Let's say you owe 10 months and pay 300 a month. You owe 3000.00. You don't usually get a break on the interest (where in a normal loan your interest is calculated daily or monthly so any prepayments or payouts positively reduce your interest). You usually pay a lot more paying out your lease early.

Redlyne_mr2
01-03-2011, 09:58 PM
How much are your lease payments, how many payments do you have left owing? What type of car are you trying to buy?

max_boost
01-03-2011, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by Cos


Sorry, penalties may have been the wrong word. Let's say you owe 10 months and pay 300 a month. You owe 3000.00. You don't usually get a break on the interest (where in a normal loan your interest is calculated daily or monthly so any prepayments or payouts positively reduce your interest). You usually pay a lot more paying out your lease early.

I have never heard of that ever. Better get your facts straight man.

shynepho
01-03-2011, 10:14 PM
I've done two lease transfers in the past. I used Lease busters and I will admit it did take a few months to find a buyer however if you offer the right incentive (one time small cash payment or 2-3x payments free on your behalf for the new owner) you can lower that wait time.

Cos
01-03-2011, 10:17 PM
.... Nevermind not worth it

Calgal25
01-03-2011, 10:20 PM
Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
How much are your lease payments, how many payments do you have left owing? What type of car are you trying to buy?

I pay $238/month and I have 2 years left of the lease and I want to buy a stronger car mostly for long distance travel so something stronger and heavier in weight... I haven't given the make or model much thought yet since i am still in the lease.

But if I can get out of it then I will start my car shopping!

benyl
01-03-2011, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by max_boost


I have never heard of that ever. Better get your facts straight man.

For a guy who leases many cars, you should know that what Cos is saying is correct.

If you want to get out of a lease early, you have to pay all the remaining payments at full value (including the interest). Those payment, plus the buyout + GST is what is owed on the car in order to sell it.

On a Finance, you just pay the principal of what is owing. You don't have to pay out the interest of the full term if you are paying out early.

That said, if calgal25 has had the car for 36 months and has 24 months left, she owes the lease company 24 payments + the buyout in order to sell the car to someone.

I don't know why people get 5 year leases.

Edit: Calgal, you owe $5721 + your buyout. Look at kijiji and see what your car is selling for to see how upside down you are.

Disoblige
01-04-2011, 12:54 AM
^^ Wow.. Yeah, after reading this thread, doesn't sound fun being in long term leases at all.

Cos
01-04-2011, 09:08 AM
Thanks benyl. I wrote out a big long post and realized I was tired and angry.

Skyline_Addict
01-04-2011, 09:43 AM
Yikes, never heard of a 5 year lease before. In any case, coming out of a lease without too much damage usually relies on the ability of the car to hold its value over a 3-4 year period. Even with low buyout amount, I unfortunately doubt your car held it's market value well.

benyl
01-04-2011, 10:21 AM
Actually, you owe 27 or 28 payments, not 24.

So that is $6664

What is your buyout?

There are Aveos for sale for $5K.
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-2008-Chevrolet-Aveo-5-Cheap-W0QQAdIdZ251003341

Some want more, but those are dealers.
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-trucks-2008-Chevrolet-Aveo-1-6-LT-W0QQAdIdZ230509337

You could probably negotiate that car down to $9K. The people asking $11K are nuts.

Here are the Canadian wholesale and retail values for your car.

http://www.vmrcanada.com/value_menus/canprices/08chaveo.html

Unless your buyout is $3K, you are upside down.

D. Dub
01-04-2011, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by B20EF
You can have someone take over your lease. At Honda it was a $500 name transfer fee and someone can just take it over. You may have to walk away from your down payment though, depends on your negotiating skills with new owner.


Most people who takeover a lease want the "seller" to put up a cash incentive as well.

max_boost
01-04-2011, 02:41 PM
I'm a bit confused lol

But here we go. These numbers are very close to my current VW lease. I just used an online lease calculator thing to compute the schedule.




Lease 1 $37,550.91 $0.00 $0.00 $37,550.91
Lease Payment 1 $550.00 $153.33 $396.67 $37,154.24
Lease Payment 2 $550.00 $151.71 $398.29 $36,755.95
Lease Payment 3 $550.00 $150.09 $399.91 $36,356.04
Lease Payment 4 $550.00 $148.45 $401.55 $35,954.49
Lease Payment 5 $550.00 $146.81 $403.19 $35,551.30
Lease Payment 6 $550.00 $145.17 $404.83 $35,146.47
Lease Payment 7 $550.00 $143.51 $406.49 $34,739.98
Lease Payment 8 $550.00 $141.85 $408.15 $34,331.83
Lease Payment 9 $550.00 $140.19 $409.81 $33,922.02
Lease Payment 10 $550.00 $138.51 $411.49 $33,510.53
Lease Payment 11 $550.00 $136.83 $413.17 $33,097.36
Lease Payment 12 $550.00 $135.15 $414.85 $32,682.51
Lease Payment 13 $550.00 $133.45 $416.55 $32,265.96
Lease Payment 14 $550.00 $131.75 $418.25 $31,847.71
Lease Payment 15 $550.00 $130.04 $419.96 $31,427.75
Lease Payment 16 $550.00 $128.33 $421.67 $31,006.08
Lease Payment 17 $550.00 $126.61 $423.39 $30,582.69
Lease Payment 18 $550.00 $124.88 $425.12 $30,157.57
Lease Payment 19 $550.00 $123.14 $426.86 $29,730.71
Lease Payment 20 $550.00 $121.40 $428.60 $29,302.11
Lease Payment 21 $550.00 $119.65 $430.35 $28,871.76
Lease Payment 22 $550.00 $117.89 $432.11 $28,439.65
Lease Payment 23 $550.00 $116.13 $433.87 $28,005.78
Lease Payment 24 $550.00 $114.36 $435.64 $27,570.14
Lease Payment 25 $550.00 $112.58 $437.42 $27,132.72
Lease Payment 26 $550.00 $110.79 $439.21 $26,693.51
Lease Payment 27 $550.00 $109.00 $441.00 $26,252.51
Lease Payment 28 $550.00 $107.20 $442.80 $25,809.71
Lease Payment 29 $550.00 $105.39 $444.61 $25,365.10
Lease Payment 30 $550.00 $103.57 $446.43 $24,918.67
Lease Payment 31 $550.00 $101.75 $448.25 $24,470.42
Lease Payment 32 $550.00 $99.92 $450.08 $24,020.34
Lease Payment 33 $550.00 $98.08 $451.92 $23,568.42
Lease Payment 34 $550.00 $96.24 $453.76 $23,114.66
Lease Payment 35 $550.00 $94.38 $455.62 $22,659.04
Lease Payment 36 $550.00 $92.52 $457.48 $22,201.56
Lease Payment 37 $550.00 $90.66 $459.34 $21,742.22
Lease Payment 38 $550.00 $88.78 $461.22 $21,281.00
Lease Payment 39 $550.00 $86.90 $463.10 $20,817.90
Lease Payment 40 $550.00 $85.01 $464.99 $20,352.91
Lease Payment 41 $550.00 $83.11 $466.89 $19,886.02
Lease Payment 42 $550.00 $81.20 $468.80 $19,417.22
Lease Payment 43 $550.00 $79.29 $470.71 $18,946.51
Lease Payment 44 $550.00 $77.36 $472.64 $18,473.87
Lease Payment 45 $550.00 $75.43 $474.57 $17,999.30
Lease Payment 46 $550.00 $73.50 $476.50 $17,522.80
Lease Payment 47 $550.00 $71.55 $478.45 $17,044.35
Lease Payment 48 $550.00 $69.60 $480.40 $16,563.95



I just made my 13th payment, so my understanding is, my buyout is $32,265.96 + 5% tax = $33879.26

But from what you guys are saying, my actual buyout is $550 (includes tax) X 35 = $19250

+

Buyout 16563.95+GST= 17392.15

My real buyout is $36642 and NOT $33879.

Anyone following me.
:nut: :dunno:

rage2
01-04-2011, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by max_boost
I'm a bit confused lol

But here we go. These numbers are very close to my current VW lease. I just used an online lease calculator thing to compute the schedule.



I just made my 13th payment, so my understanding is, my buyout is $32,265.96 + 5% tax = $33879.26

But from what you guys are saying, my actual buyout is $550 (includes tax) X 35 = $19250

+

Buyout 16563.95+GST= 17392.15

My real buyout is $36642 and NOT $33879.

Anyone following me.
:nut: :dunno:
Your buyout would be $36642. If you decide to buy another car at the same time, they may use the $33879 value as your buyout, and give you trade-in value towards your next car. You'd have to negotiate for that though.

I had to buyout my GTI when I sold it, and was a few grand underwater based on the price I sold the car at. I did the math, and it pretty much was all the payments + final buyout price.

benyl
01-04-2011, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by max_boost
I'm a bit confused lol

But here we go. These numbers are very close to my current VW lease. I just used an online lease calculator thing to compute the schedule.



I just made my 13th payment, so my understanding is, my buyout is $32,265.96 + 5% tax = $33879.26

But from what you guys are saying, my actual buyout is $550 (includes tax) X 35 = $19250

+

Buyout 16563.95+GST= 17392.15

My real buyout is $36642 and NOT $33879.

Anyone following me.
:nut: :dunno:

Yes, for GM, Ford, Chrysler, Honda, Acura, etc...

BMW uses a different way of calculating leases. They do it the finance way where the interest is calculated every month.

jonnycat
01-04-2011, 03:09 PM
I use two different leases on the equipment side, the majority of my leases are Calculated as the BMW example above ^ but the guys who need the cheapest payment possible or definitely aren't keeping the machine at lease end get the ugly lease.

And yup, most auto finance companies use the ugly lease all the time.

max_boost
01-04-2011, 03:10 PM
LOL WHAT?!

Interesting.

Come to think of it, the last lease car I bought out was back in 2000.

I usually ride out my lease or get someone to take it over.

Interesting. If that's the case, I stand corrected.

My apologies to Cos.

Cos
01-04-2011, 03:39 PM
^^ no problem. I know because the way you were calculating it is the way I was doing it. Traded in my car for my truck and bam! $4,000 under what I planned.