Heated parkades, winter, and rust?

[alberta_gamer]

Just overheard someone at work saying he doesn't use the heated parkade because the snow/ice melting off during the day, every day worsens rust. Is that right, or is he just bitter that he can't get a spot in the parkade by the time he gets to work?

[kvg]

Yes its true if you have rust.

[J-hop]

yea what rust needs to form or spread is a good electrolyte. Although as far as I know we don't salt our roads yet, dirty snow on your car etc when it melts can still be a pretty good electrolyte. If you leave your car in the cold the snow isn't able to melt and create a good electrolyte to promote rusting so you are better off leaving it outside.

Now if your car has decent paint (ie: not all chipped) you probably have nothing to worry about. Just make sure you keep it clean.

[benyl]

Originally posted by J-hop
Although as far as I know we don't salt our roads yet,

http://www.calgary.ca/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_0_395_203_0_47/http%3B/content.calgary.ca/CCA/City+Hall/Business+Units/Roads/Snow+and+ice+control/Salt+Management+Plan+FAQs.htm

[J-hop]

Originally posted by benyl


http://www.calgary.ca/portal/server.pt/gateway/PTARGS_0_0_395_203_0_47/http%3B/content.calgary.ca/CCA/City+Hall/Business+Units/Roads/Snow+and+ice+control/Salt+Management+Plan+FAQs.htm

apparently I haven't come out of my cave in a while, so OP there is another piece of evidence supporting the persons claim.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by J-hop

apparently I haven't come out of my cave in a while, so OP there is another piece of evidence supporting the persons claim.

Yes. Corrosion rate is directly proportional to temperature so salt on a car at freezing temperatures doesn't promote much if any corrosion but in a heated garage where temperatures are +20 and humidity is higher is much more optimal conditions for corrosion to take place. That's why cars rust out east so bad with their high humidity and more moderate temperatures combined with lots of road salt. Bottom line is that if you park in a heated garage keep your car clean.

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by alberta_gamer
Is that right, or is he just bitter that he can't get a spot in the parkade by the time he gets to work?

Out of curiosity, what does he drive that he's so worried about rust? If it's a fairly new car, he's bitter, if it's older, he probably is genuinely concerned.

[mr2mike]

Really, people can have flawless paint, take a look under the car... full of rust. Its nearly impossible to fully wash under your car.
If he's got a newer car, he'll sell it before it becomes an issue. But yes heat increases the chemical reaction process... simple chemistry.

[CapnCrunch]

Direct sunlight will degrade your paint faster than melting snow and salt.

I've never seen a car kept outside that has better paint/ less rust than one thats been garaged.

[J-hop]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok


Out of curiosity, what does he drive that he's so worried about rust? If it's a fairly new car, he's bitter, if it's older, he probably is genuinely concerned.


one thing I do notice with a lot of new cars (in my experience) is they have extremely thin paint. I don't know if this is for cost cutting purposes or what.

I also don't know how many companies galvanize their cars still (cost cutting again??). I seem to remember reading about some major problems with infiniti vehicles and rust problems with vehicles as new as 2004 having severe rusting.

Underbody coating seems to have suffered as well lately, my dad was looking at a new truck at the car and truck show last march and both the F150 and Dodge Rams they had on display had undercarriage rust on them already, mostly surface rust, but still for a brand new vehicle I thought this was weird especially when they specifically try to sell you on an undercarriage rust proofing package that apparently must be re-applied every year.

[M.alex]

Originally posted by J-hop


I also don't know how many companies galvanize their cars still (cost cutting again??). I seem to remember reading about some major problems with infiniti vehicles and rust problems with vehicles as new as 2004 having severe rusting.



I can attest to that - my dad's 2002 has the typical rusty underside, but the paint on both of his rear quarter panels are peeling apart from the rust on the underside.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by J-hop

one thing I do notice with a lot of new cars (in my experience) is they have extremely thin paint. I don't know if this is for cost cutting purposes or what.

It's an environmental purpose as water based paints are more environmental than solvent based paints. Problem is that water based paints take much longer to cure so manufacturers use less steps and thinner coats to compensate and keep manufacturing times in check. The paint coming out of Japanes manufacturers such as Toyota (google RAV4 paint problems for example), Subaru, Mitsubishi, etc is pure garbage which is why clear bra is now mandatory. The cost of being envirnomentally friendly has been passsed on to the consumer as usual.:thumbsdow

I'm pretty anal about paint which is why my next car won't be Japanese. Domestic and German paint is superior at the moment.

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by heavyD

Domestic and German paint is superior at the moment.

Not on a Mustang, it isn't.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok

Not on a Mustang, it isn't.

I've only heard complaints in isolated cars about bubbles from contaminants prior to spraying but not to the extent of the thin, soft paint coming out of Japan. Automotive paint isn't infallible and you are going to have chips and defects from all manufacturers.

[JordanAndrew]

damn, I guess more car wash trips for me.

[94boosted]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok


Not on a Mustang, it isn't.

Are you implying that HeavyD's new car will be a 2011 Mustang GT ;)

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by 94boosted


Are you implying that HeavyD's new car will be a 2011 Mustang GT ;)

Lol, no? I have no idea what his new car will be, but my 2005 paint was ridiculously thin, comparing it to my '03 Audi, and '98 Subaru.

I'm not saying they didn't improve the paint since then, just that mine was weak.