2 US military soldiers killed in Frankfurt airport.

[ZenOps]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/03/02/frankfurt-shooting.html

High probability they were stalked.

[JRSC00LUDE]

Lift your hat up a bit, it's affecting your reading comprehension.

[Zephyr]

That airport is interesting, as you arrive from the airplane terminal, first store you see is a porn shop LOL. When I was there I saw "A Night in Paris" on the glass door LOL

[ZenOps]

What? Now confirmed they were airmen (not ground forces)

Its always much easier to snipe the highly trained guys - before they get into their specialized roles (into the fighter planes) A Billion dollar aircraft is only as good as its pilot.

IMO I am 100% sure they were pre-targetted.

BTW: CBC edits their titles and story for clarification on the fly, it was not known this morning what type of personelle was hit.

If they were infantry, I would have said it was just a drive-by.

[Sentry]

He meant this:

2 US military soldiers killed in Frankfurt airport.


The U.S. Air Force says two of its airmen have been killed and two wounded in a shooting outside Frankfurt airport.

[Godfuader]

This just in: Team Allahu-Akbar responsible for killing the noble Americans.

[n1zm0]

the suspect is a Kosovan, maybe built up anger from the Bosnian War, US warplane bombed this person's family?

[Cos]

Great now Germany has MWD's and supports terrorism.

[LadyLuck]

Originally posted by n1zm0
the suspect is a Kosovan, maybe built up anger from the Bosnian War, US warplane bombed this person's family?

:nut: :facepalm:
Its been almost 20 years...time to move on, I know I did.

[ZenOps]

Things are starting to spiral now.

Shootings in front of large airports - should be a warning sign.

Heck - Canada sending out a warship not loaded with food should be a warning sign.

I do kind of see Khadafis point though, its not really *his* fault for unrest due to inflation. I also put that blame squarely on US monetary policy for all sort of other nations getting mad. Kosovo, not exactly ancient history - that could flare up just as easily as Korea.

[Godfuader]

Originally posted by Godfuader
This just in: Team Allahu-Akbar responsible for killing the noble Americans.

A man whose office is near the site of the shooting said it was an area where buses load arriving passengers. Speaking on condition of anonymity to protect his business, he said witnesses told him that the gunman first talked to the military personnel to find out who they were and then opened fire, shouting “God is great” in Arabic.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/03/world/europe/03frankfurt.html

[911fever]

typical coward way to kill innocent soldiers. Disgusting.

[Godfuader]

Originally posted by 911fever
typical coward way to kill innocent soldiers. Disgusting.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Verus the heroic ways that the Americans use to kill people?

[911fever]

Originally posted by Godfuader


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Verus the heroic ways that the Americans use to kill people?

Are you seriously defending the way these innocent US soldiers were killed?
That is pathetic.

[broken_legs]

Originally posted by 911fever


Are you seriously defending the way these innocent US soldiers were killed?
That is pathetic.

He's not defending anything. Just pointing out how hypocritical your statement is.

[Cos]

Originally posted by 911fever


Are you seriously defending the way these innocent US soldiers were killed?
That is pathetic.

Last time I checked the US invaded another country. I am pretty sure Germans were killed within German borders during WWII.

Go to war (or in the US case provoke the war) and face the consequences.

[Aleks]

Looks like Americans really did choose wrong in Kosovo just like Toma said ;)

[911fever]

Originally posted by Cos


Last time I checked the US invaded another country. I am pretty sure Germans were killed within German borders during WWII.

Go to war (or in the US case provoke the war) and face the consequences.

What does the War in Iraq have to do with these disgusting killings? Nothing. It has to do with extreme hatred of the West by extremist Islamists, who would do anything to strike at the USA, not including suicide bombings or murder. This has nothing to do with consenquences, it has everything to do with hatred - look at the U.S.S. Cole in 2000 in Yemen where American soldiers were killed unprovoked.

[Cos]

yes because hatred of the west was reduced by the us invading and meddling in the middle easts affairs. Get real people dont live on a case by case basis. The us has been involved all over the world and pissed a lot of people off.

the us has decided to be the bully on the playground and now some kids are standing up to it. does that mean I support the death of these soldiers? No but they are not innocent in this.especially not wearing that uniform

Originally posted by 911fever


What does the War in Iraq have to do with these disgusting killings? Nothing. It has to do with extreme hatred of the West by extremist Islamists, who would do anything to strike at the USA, not including suicide bombings solidlyor murder. This has nothing to do with consenquences, it has ing to do with hatred - look at the U.S.S. Cole in 2000 in Yemen where American soldiers were killed unprovoked.

[broken_legs]

Originally posted by 911fever


look at the U.S.S. Cole in 2000 in Yemen where American soldiers were killed unprovoked.

You actually believe that people in Islamic countries just randomly hate the US for no reason?

Yemen has been under dictatorial control for many years. The government is supported by the US for access to oil while the people suffer.

Is that not a provocation?

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by 911fever


What does the War in Iraq have to do with these disgusting killings? Nothing. It has to do with extreme hatred of the West by extremist Islamists, who would do anything to strike at the USA, not including suicide bombings or murder. This has nothing to do with consenquences, it has everything to do with hatred - look at the U.S.S. Cole in 2000 in Yemen where American soldiers were killed unprovoked.
You would hate the US as well if you lived in the middle east just like much of Vietnam still hates the US as do certain parts of Japan.

RIP to the soldiers, they died too soon.

[911fever]

Originally posted by Cos
yes because hatred of the west was reduced by the us invading and meddling in the middle easts affairs. Get real people dont live on a case by case basis. The us has been involved all over the world and pissed a lot of people off.

the us has decided to be the bully on the playground and now some kids are standing up to it. does that mean I support the death of these soldiers? No but they are not innocent in this.especially not wearing that uniform


The US is involved around the world sure, but kids are raised by parents and by teachers in the Middle East from Pakistan to Iran, to simply hate the West. They are born, bred, and taught to hate everything the West stands for, our excessive lifestyle, our lavish and sexual superficial lives, our obsession with culture, fads, celebrities, and MOST of all, our defense and support of Israel.
Whether or not the US went totally isolationist and merely pulled itself from the world, from South Korea to Germany, people would hate on the United States. I don't think you, me, or any people here in the West understand how much the extremist Islam people hate us - they wish to impose Sharia law on the world. Which is why I've said, extremist Islam is the greatest threat to our world since Hitler.
the US is bully on the playground? Sure, a little. But so is are most of the G8 nations.
And for all the 'bad' things the US does, they counter back often with more good things, I.E., George W Bush's support for stopping AIDS in Africa (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/17/george-bush-aids-africa) (http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/02/17/us-africa-bush-adulation-idUSL17797120080217).

Stop blaming all of this on the US. I'm tired of this old rhetoric. In 1993 when the World Trade Centre was bombed, what was the reasoning for this act of terrorism? What did the US do to deserve this? Being a bully? Really? Don't play the blame game, like broken_legs, Cos.


Originally posted by broken_legs


You actually believe that people in Islamic countries just randomly hate the US for no reason?

Yemen has been under dictatorial control for many years. The government is supported by the US for access to oil while the people suffer.

Is that not a provocation?

It isn't for no reason.
It's for the reasons I listed above.
They feel that:
A) support for Israel and what they see as oppression of the Palestinian people, plus they hate the Jews for their land
B) support for pro-Sunni regimes such as Saudi Arabia is a front to their envision for a pro-Shia (or in some terrorism cases, the opposite) world order.
C) Lavish lifestyle and excess.
D) The US is seen as a bully, plus they are envious of the US' success while they live in poverty and corruption.

The US had no option with Yemen - Yemen is insanity.
The US has its hands tied with Yemen, placing the blame on them for buying its oil is again, playing the blame game. The people can overthrow the government if they feel that they are unfair. It is not fair to blame the US for every single dictatorship and regime simply because the US buys a product from them. I'm tired of this blaming nonsense.
It's a sign now that the people are tired of dictatorships, and tired of the current status quo, where human rights and freedoms are few and far between.
If these new hopeful semi-democracies such as in Egypt decide to stop selling oil to the USA, then so be it. I think ultimately the US realizes now more than ever, that being so dependent on Middle East oil is a very dangerous and unstable policy, especially in these times.

[broken_legs]

Originally posted by 911fever


The US is involved around the world sure, but kids are raised by parents and by teachers in the Middle East from Pakistan to Iran, to simply hate the West. They are born, bred, and taught to hate everything the West stands for, our excessive lifestyle, our lavish and sexual superficial lives, our obsession with culture, fads, celebrities, and MOST of all, our defense and support of Israel.



So let me get this straight.

Every single argument you enter about anything ends in:


Originally posted by 911fever
I personally know every single one of _____ people and understand their motives and they all told me that I am right and you are wrong.


I guess we'll just have to take your word on it...

[911fever]

Originally posted by broken_legs



So let me get this straight.

Every single argument you enter about anything ends in:




I guess we'll just have to take your word on it...

No, lets take it from people hands on, reporters who have lived and worked with these people I've mentioned who hate the USA, people with Ph.D's who study this, not from MA students like myself:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3293521.Anti_americanism_in_the_Islamic_World
http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1267916082l/3293521.jpg

http://books.google.ca/books?id=wfSenrengasC&pg=PA237&dq=hatred+of+the+United+states+islam&hl=en&ei=NsxuTZrLCYX7lwfIz8h5&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=hatred%20of%20the%20United%20states%20islam&f=false
pg. 237.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393325318.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I won't completely fault the Islamic world for being angry at the US, but I can't accept or believe that terrorism is justified. And I also do not believe the USA deserves the hatred in the world that we see, and that I even read, in threads like these.

[broken_legs]

Let me guess, you read both of those books?

Or maybe you just googled anti-american something er other and posted the first results to make it seem that somehow you are educated on this subject....

You are such a dumbass.

FROM YOUR BOOKS:



Anti-Americanism is a far from homogenous phenomenon, even in the Islamic world, where the press ((and 911fever!!!)) would sometimes want to convince us that a near-unanimous hostility to the United States exists. This book, by dint of on-the-ground research into Muslim views of the `Great Satan', shows that far more sophisticated explanations are called for. Traditional respect for America's...moreAnti-Americanism is a far from homogenous phenomenon, even in the Islamic world, where the press would sometimes want to convince us that a near-unanimous hostility to the United States exists. This book, by dint of on-the-ground research into Muslim views of the `Great Satan', shows that far more sophisticated explanations are called for. Traditional respect for America's role in the world remains strong in several countries, while in others deep antagonism remains. The key determinant of the latter is US foreign policy.




Originally posted by 911fever


No, lets take it from people hands on, reporters who have lived and worked with these people I've mentioned who hate the USA, people with Ph.D's who study this, not from MA students like myself:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3293521.Anti_americanism_in_the_Islamic_World
http://photo.goodreads.com/books/1267916082l/3293521.jpg

http://books.google.ca/books?id=wfSenrengasC&pg=PA237&dq=hatred+of+the+United+states+islam&hl=en&ei=NsxuTZrLCYX7lwfIz8h5&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=hatred%20of%20the%20United%20states%20islam&f=false
pg. 237.
http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0393325318.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

I won't completely fault the Islamic world for being angry at the US, but I can't accept or believe that terrorism is justified. And I also do not believe the USA deserves the hatred in the world that we see, and that I even read, in threads like these.

[Toma]

Originally posted by 911fever
typical coward way to kill innocent soldiers. Disgusting.
LOL.... Innocent soldiers....

Huh....

That's kind of funny....especially since they are American soldiers, and America started a war against brown people.

I tell ya what.... I'm not in the military, and neither is anyone in my family. So, hey, if you are gonna fight a war and defend yourself against American aggression, I am all for them sticking to military targets, and not us poor INNOCENT civilians.

[911fever]

Originally posted by broken_legs
Let me guess, you read both of those books?

Or maybe you just googled anti-american something er other and posted the first results to make it seem that somehow you are educated on this subject....

You are such a dumbass.

FROM YOUR BOOKS:





Imagine, I read the actutal book! much of it covers American foreign policy and where it went right, and where it went wrong! WOW what a concept, there's positives and negatives! Wow!
Both books provide different views on why anti-Americanism is rampant in the Middle East. One believes its entirely American foreign policy, other discusses injustices and differences between Islamic Law and the Koran has with the West, and why true extremist Islam is not compatible with the USA and our pro-Western free, way of life. Look, I take both viewpoints into account with my argument, unlike you and your cowardly point-the-blame @ the US nonsense.

My point remains, much of the anti-US nonsense does come from the Middle East from nations that hate the US for a variety of reasons (that both books I listed [and others] delve into). Much of it is unjustified as both books discuss.

Do you know why I'm more educated on this subject than you? Because you have not responded to any of my arguments in question, you've skirted around them, focusing instead on the sources I've listed and the fact that you feel that people will simply have to 'take my word on things' (again, facepalm at your straw-man argument).
You're a complete joke, start responding to the arguments in question :rofl:

Originally posted by Toma

LOL.... Innocent soldiers....

Huh....

That's kind of funny....especially since they are American soldiers, and America started a war against brown people.

I tell ya what.... I'm not in the military, and neither is anyone in my family. So, hey, if you are gonna fight a war and defend yourself against American aggression, I am all for them sticking to military targets, and not us poor INNOCENT civilians.

A war on brown people? Are you serious? :facepalm: :facepalm:
so you actually believe these innocent US soldiers were justified in being killed because the US is involved in a war on extremist Islam, which not only threatens the freedoms and lives of women, but of people of non-Islamic faith? You're revolting, and how I feel such pity for those who refuse to take a stand for freedom and literally defend extremism.

[Toma]

Originally posted by 911fever


A war on brown people? Are you serious? :facepalm: :facepalm:
so you actually believe these innocent US soldiers were justified in being killed because the US is involved in a war on extremist Islam, which not only threatens the freedoms and lives of women, but of people of non-Islamic faith? You're revolting, and how I feel such pity for those who refuse to take a stand for freedom and literally defend extremism.

I wont subscribe to your delusion of "innocent soldiers" within a military engaged in aggressive policy against the mid east.

But, I digress, all I am saying is that it's fine by me if it means that CIVILIANS will be safer.

Don't wanna be at risk? Don't join an aggressive military with a history of murder, aggression, and meddling.

In my mind, its like this....

You know gang life is risky, so why would you join an active aggressive gang knowing this?

[broken_legs]

Originally posted by 911fever


Imagine, I read the actutal book!

So did you read the book or not?? :rolleyes:

You made a huge blanket statement that all people in islamic countries hate the US, because they are raised that way and taught that.

Then you put up a book that clearly states the exact opposite to somehow support your claim.

The other book you posted up is written by a jew in Boston.

Then you claim to have intimate knowledge of these books by reciting exactly what it says in the synopsis available online.

I'm going to err on the side that you are lying and u never read those books.

Do some more research into your fake sources before you post them next time.

As far as arguing points, with you it's pointless because you first attack the person and never the idea, then you back up your arguments with impossible to quantify statements like "Everyone this" or "Everyone that"

There's no point in arguing against that because it's 100% ridiculous.

[911fever]

Originally posted by Toma


I wont subscribe to your delusion of "innocent soldiers" withing a military engaged in aggressive policy against the mid east.

But, I digress, all I am saying is that it's fine by me if it means that CIVILIANS will be safer.

Don't wanna be at risk? Don't join an aggressive military with a history of murder, aggression, and meddling.

An aggressive military? What's aggressive about providing rights to the Afghani people, and training the Police to enforce the law in Iraq? What about providing support to troops in South Korea to offset the ridiculous, TRUELY AGGRESSIVE North Korea regime? I can't understand people like you; the American military provides freedoms and rights for people all over the globe. Innocent soldiers are desecrated when fools like you post such distrubing diatribes.

[broken_legs]

Originally posted by 911fever


An aggressive military? What's aggressive about providing rights to the Afghani people, and training the Police to enforce the law in Iraq? What about providing support to troops in South Korea to offset the ridiculous, TRUELY AGGRESSIVE North Korea regime? I can't understand people like you; the American military provides freedoms and rights for people all over the globe. Innocent soldiers are desecrated when fools like you post such distrubing diatribes.


I'm seriously beginning to think that you are a paid troll for fox news.


Edit:

I'm sure the Iraqi people would agree with you 911fever.

http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/images/iraqdeaths.gif

[911fever]

Originally posted by broken_legs


So did you read the book or not?? :rolleyes:

You made a huge blanket statement that all people in islamic countries hate the US, because they are raised that way and taught that.

Then you put up a book that clearly states the exact opposite to somehow support your claim.

The other book you posted up is written by a jew in Boston.

Then you claim to have intimate knowledge of these books by reciting exactly what it says in the synopsis available online.

I'm going to err on the side that you are lying and u never read those books.

Do some more research into your fake sources before you post them next time.

As far as arguing points, with you it's pointless because you first attack the person and never the idea, then you back up your arguments with impossible to quantify statements like "Everyone this" or "Everyone that"

There's no point in arguing against that because it's 100% ridiculous.

Again, you haven't responded to my arguments, you'd rather pussy out and argue against sources, while constantly using the straw man argument. Thank you for acknowledging that you do use the blame-game in all of your arguments.
I merely provided material that supported my argument - that is, American hatred arises from several core issues that many Muslims in the Middle East have with the US.

You know, if I woke up everyday feeling as deluded and undeducated as you, I'd possibly feel some of this hatred towards the United States. Simply because they don't want you and neither do we. Move with Toma to a country which supports your nonsense (Yemen sounds great).

[broken_legs]

Originally posted by 911fever


Again, you haven't responded to my arguments, you'd rather pussy out and argue against sources, while constantly using the straw man argument.

Don't get confused, I'm not arguing with you. Your own sources of books you supposedly read do a great job of that already. (FAIL=YOU) I simply point out how ridiculous the shit you say is.

I'll catch you in the next thread and you can tell us all about how you know everything about everyone again.

Keep trollin.

[911fever]

Originally posted by broken_legs



I'm seriously beginning to think that you are a paid troll for fox news.


Edit:

I'm sure the Iraqi people would agree with you 911fever.

http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/images/iraqdeaths.gif

I just wrote a large paper on a defense of the war on Iraq. We'll agree to disagree on this, if you'd like to see what I've written, start with much of what celebrated authors like Christopher Hitchens have wrote:
http://www.slate.com/id/2186740/pagenum/all/#p1

Or how about Libya? A free Iraq prevented a nuclear Libya:
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/564759/201103021902/A-Free-Iraq-Prevented-Nuclear-Libya.htm

[Sugarphreak]

...

[broken_legs]

Originally posted by 911fever


I just wrote a large paper on a defense of the war on Iraq. We'll agree to disagree on this, if you'd like to see what I've written, start with much of what celebrated authors like Christopher Hitchens have wrote:
http://www.slate.com/id/2186740/pagenum/all/#p1

Or how about Libya? A free Iraq prevented a nuclear Libya:
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/564759/201103021902/A-Free-Iraq-Prevented-Nuclear-Libya.htm


Post up your paper.

RE: A Free Iraq Prevented A Nuclear Libya??

So the war in Iraq scared Ghadaffi? Wow, thats such a rock solid statement, so easy to prove or disprove as long as you have a door into ghadaffis head :rolleyes: How can anyone seriously argue against that kind of logic??

This article stands up to ZERO critical thinking. Like most of your arguments it is opinion based, hypocritical bullshit.

But seriously, post your paper. Or you can PM me. Despite what you may think I try to have an open mind. Please help me see the light.

[911fever]

Originally posted by broken_legs



Post up your paper.

RE: A Free Iraq Prevented A Nuclear Libya??

So the war in Iraq scared Ghadaffi? Wow, thats such a rock solid statement, so easy to prove or disprove as long as you have a door into ghadaffis head :rolleyes: How can anyone seriously argue against that kind of logic??

This article stands up to ZERO critical thinking. Like most of your arguments it is opinion based, hypocritical bullshit.

But seriously, post your paper. Or you can PM me. Despite what you may think I try to have an open mind. Please help me see the light.

How about this article, from horrors, the Huffington Post?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-cirincione/how-we-dodged-libyas-nucl_b_829669.html

[broken_legs]

Originally posted by 911fever


How about this article, from horrors, the Huffington Post?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-cirincione/how-we-dodged-libyas-nucl_b_829669.html


Exactly:


More likely, Gaddafi had concluded that he needed Western contracts and markets more than he needed chemical or nuclear weapons. Efforts to end Libya's weapon programs spanned four presidential administrations


Post your paper.

[BrknFngrs]

So the killing of these two soldiers is ok because they looked the same as any other soldier, regardless of whether or not they personally had anything to do with kosovo or whatever else....

But at the same time, it's wrong to treat all "middle eastern people like terrorists".....

Seems logical :dunno:

[Godfuader]

Originally posted by 911fever
...the American military provides freedoms and rights for people all over the globe. Innocent soldiers are desecrated when fools like you post such distrubing diatribes.
You are seriously joking about this right. Since you proudly pointed out that your are in a MA program, I just wonder how a professor will actually read your scary rants versus asking you to drop the Kool-aid. Your train of thought was initially amusing...now it is evidently unhealthy.

[gatorade]

People from the middle east are not the only ones critical of American foreign policy, it is not just "radical" islamics who have this view but also alot of educated and "normal" people.

However it is just a small fraction of people who are willing to kill and declare jihad on Americans. South Koreans, Vietnamese, and Japanese are share alot of the same criticisms as people in the middle east, but aren't willing to Americans for various reasons.

I think 911fever is oversimplifying the situation, one or two books cant outline the motivations and reasons for "extremism" against Americans, try talking to people from those countries and see how their personal views of Americans/ foeign policy are.

One incident I will bring up that contrasts your view of American soldiers is the massacre at My Lai against hundreds of unarmed civilians including KIDS, WOMEN, and SENIORS. People do not forget incidents like this no matter how much good American soldiers have done.

[CUG]

Originally posted by Godfuader


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/03/world/europe/03frankfurt.html Damn you're good. What are your picks for baseball this year? :rofl:

[Toma]

Originally posted by BrknFngrs
So the killing of these two soldiers is ok because they looked the same as any other soldier, regardless of whether or not they personally had anything to do with kosovo or whatever else....

But at the same time, it's wrong to treat all "middle eastern people like terrorists".....

Seems logical :dunno:
LMAO!!!

Are you insane? Being a civilian is now the same as being a member of a military organization... an extremely aggressive one for that matter? :nut:

[BrknFngrs]

Originally posted by Toma

LMAO!!!

Are you insane? Being a civilian is now the same as being a member of a military organization... an extremely aggressive one for that matter? :nut:

It seems like there is some confusion here, so let's try to bring some clarity. It was ok to kill these soldiers in your opinion because they were easily identified as US soldiers and for this reason, regardless of who they were or what they've been involved in personally, they deserved to die for being associated with this group.

Would you mind pointing out how an insurgent is identified? Obviously they where a uniform that makes them identifiable so they aren't mistaken for a civilian right? They wouldn't, for example, hide among civilians and then complain when their are civilian casualties, correct?

So basically, your opinion is that beyond the shadow of a doubt, all soldiers (which you know nothing about personally) deserve to be killed strictly for their association with the military, regardless of what their role is, what they've done, etc. And you think I'm insane? What about the coast guard are they "guilty" as well?

[davidI]

World's going crazy. I was in that airport on Tuesday. Then again, I'm in Yemen now so I would probably have been safer to have stayed in Germany!

[arian_ma]

Originally posted by BrknFngrs


It seems like there is some confusion here, so let's try to bring some clarity. It was ok to kill these soldiers in your opinion because they were easily identified as US soldiers and for this reason, regardless of who they were or what they've been involved in personally, they deserved to die for being associated with this group.

Would you mind pointing out how an insurgent is identified? Obviously they where a uniform that makes them identifiable so they aren't mistaken for a civilian right? They wouldn't, for example, hide among civilians and then complain when their are civilian casualties, correct?

So basically, your opinion is that beyond the shadow of a doubt, all soldiers (which you know nothing about personally) deserve to be killed strictly for their association with the military, regardless of what their role is, what they've done, etc. And you think I'm insane? What about the coast guard are they "guilty" as well?
No-one deserves to be killed, you're just pulling words out of the air now. What everyone in here is trying to say is that once you join the military, you are representing your country and are part of a whole. Since the specific military in question is the US military, and since the US military goes around fucking everyone they want in the ass, the logical step for anyone who wants to fight back is to attack the military. These soldiers were just unlucky, but that's the price you gotta pay for joining the biggest asshole military the world has ever known.

[n1zm0]

Originally posted by 911fever
typical coward way to kill innocent soldiers. Disgusting.

:rofl: seriously? i know its tactical advantage, but sitting @ 10000 ft & 5-10 kms away from the enemy and shooting a hellfire doesn't see very brave to me...

neither does a predator UAV shooting rockets into a village that may or may not have hit its target, while being remotely piloted by some guy on a computer halfway across the world @ Nellis AFB in Nevada.

[Toma]

Boy, I am NOT very popular on the US forums right now ;) lol.

In the middle of their "2 US soldiers killed by terrorists" thread, I pointed out to the murder of the 9 kids in Afghanistan.

Red Neck racists I tell ya lol

One guy actual said "well if you people didn't commit 9-11, none of this would have happened" bahahahhaha. I guess he thinks I'm brown, or Muslim or something. I mean you couldn't possibly be a red neck white guy and think the US is in the wrong lol.

And the million kids that perished during/after gulf 1 TEN years prior to 911??

LMAO.

I LOVE stupid people, they make my day entertaining.

[Konj]

Originally posted by 911fever


An aggressive military? What's aggressive about providing rights to the Afghani people, and training the Police to enforce the law in Iraq? What about providing support to troops in South Korea to offset the ridiculous, TRUELY AGGRESSIVE North Korea regime? I can't understand people like you; the American military provides freedoms and rights for people all over the globe. Innocent soldiers are desecrated when fools like you post such distrubing diatribes.

You are so blind. That is the root of the problem, Americans not being able to stay confined within their borders. They go around the world and impose policies for best interest of the American people as well as implementing their ideologies and beliefs in other parts of the world.

So to your question: What's aggressive about providing rights to the Afghani people, and training the Police to enforce the law in Iraq?

Why do Americans think they have the right to go into Afghanistan and help the Afghani people and what makes you think that Iraqis' want to be governed by framework of the American law?

Simply put, as the West views Sharia Law as a threat to its way of life, Islamic nations view American ideologies as a threat to their way of life.

[DonJuan]

anyone get the feeling that 911fever is actually Glenn Beck?

[ragu]

He's Tnation so yeah pretty close.