S13 Engine swap KEtoRB20Det NEED INFO NOW!!!

[Lazydream]

Hey im planning on buying a 240sx witha blown Ka24 now i have bin told that the driftshaft and all that fits fine but i have seen people say u need to get it shortened blah blah blah! well now i need all the info i can get if i am swaping a rb20det into a 240sx 1990 s13

[Cooked Rice]

Yeah, don't do it. Why do you want a shitty RB20? It's cheaper to do SR20 in the end, and it's a better motor. if you're gonna fork the money to do a RB, do a RB25.

[Lazydream]

this is kinda why i hate posting on these sites i can get a rb for around 1350 a sr for 1950 so i want to go with the rb because there almost the same for horse power stock but the rb is heavyer i know that but i just need some info on what i need to install it not SR IS BETTER NO RB25 DONT WASTE UR MONEY its annoying just give me the info i asked for not random crapp

[ercchry]

its not random crap, ray and myself have been around this scene for a long ass time, seen and done a lot with nissans, dont waste time and efforts on this shit... if you are worried about the bottom line, get an already swapped car

[Lazydream]

zzzz i all i want to know is what i need to swap

I heard i need a skyline cross member but ive heard from people that if its a Ka24 you dont need it should drop no problem then im curious if i will need to get the driftshaft shorteneed

[ercchry]

med-hat... when will they learn :cry:

[Lazydream]

could i please just have the info?

[msommers]

Different motor and tranny mounts. Driveshaft is fine, RB25 needs it to be cut.

Thinking back now, I would go rb25 or s15 :)

[ercchry]

rb25 trans is impossible to find or expensive... rb25 w/rb20 trans is win

[94_S14]

no one is messing with you, so i would take their considerations to heart, why waste the time and effort fitting the RB20 into the S13 chasis? Your already guestimating cross members, drive shafts, lada di lada da.

You dont think that stuff will add up in the long run making it as expensive if not more than an SR?
let alone throwing off the balance with an engine that has less going for it.

I would crunch all your final numbers before comitting to a single engine. Do what you see fit, but if its finances that seem to be your deciding factor, atleast do that part correctly first.

[Lazydream]

finnally someone who is nice lolol what would be the price for the mounts???

[ercchry]

Originally posted by Lazydream
finnally someone who is nice lolol what would be the price for the mounts???

$1.1m

...seriously... if you have to ask these questions you do not have the skill set to complete this project

[Cooked Rice]

Originally posted by ercchry


...seriously... if you have to ask these questions you do not have the skill set to complete this project

:werd:

Was about to say. And as mentioned your RB20 swap is gonna cost you more by the time you are done, and the SR20 trumps the RB20 when it comes to real world performance 'jus saying. And if you think i'm just saying that cause I have a SR20, well I don't have a SR. Have fun when those ceramic turbine wheels break on you.

[962 kid]

Originally posted by ercchry


$1.1m

...seriously... if you have to ask these questions you do not have the skill set to complete this project

what he said

[gretz]

Originally posted by ercchry


$1.1m

...seriously... if you have to ask these questions you do not have the skill set to complete this project

My thoughts from his first post... "I don't have a car, but when I do, I'm planning on getting a motor... When I get the car and the motor, I want to put it in, how?"

Read lots of builds, don't be lazy (although your user name is scary how fitting it is)

[Lazydream]

i do want you guys to know i do not plan on using this car as a drift missle or preformance car...

[Cooked Rice]

Cool. So why would you want a motor which is not as reliable? Actually why not just throw in a non turbo SR20, as they only cost 800-1200 with the tranny and they bolt right in.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by Cooked Rice
Cool. So why would you want a motor which is not as reliable? Actually why not just throw in a non turbo SR20, as they only cost 800-1200 with the tranny and they bolt right in.

or a ka24de, they cost a case of beer... fish around for a stand alone, injectors from a sr... ebay mani and intercooler... sr t25 turbo... bam ka24det for under a grand

[Lazydream]

okay were could i get one no turbo because if i can get one that cheap i will deffinitly go with that then i can save for a turbo kit or sumtin

[ercchry]

Originally posted by Lazydream
i do want you guys to know i do not plan on using this car as a drift missle or preformance car...

www.spec-d.ca

keep drifting fun and legal

[Lazydream]

http://www.jdmsource.ca/products.php?jdm-nissan-rb20det-turbo-skyline&cPath=7&osCsid=83j42hn6bkbomfqq18o56oc6h4

thats where im planning to get the Rb20det because of the price 1375+68 with taxes and i can get the shipping for free seeing as a uncle owns a trucking companny

[ercchry]

why not just make a looking for thread on here? lots of people toss those motors when they upgrade to rb25... also look on gt-r canada

[Lazydream]

Only reason why i checked jdm source is because it has everything included thatu need all i need is the cross member

[sr20s14zenki]

:rolleyes:

[g-m]

Originally posted by Lazydream
could i please just have the info?
Could you please just fucking search next time? Jesus. Zilvia.net. Idiot

[Lazydream]

.....

[..*JDM Hatch*..]

Just throw a Ca18 in it and call it a day.LOL

[Lazydream]

lol na i got my mind set on the rb20det i just need to find a cross memeber

[ercchry]

ever hear of kijiji?

http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-auto-parts-tires-engine-engine-parts-PARTING-OUT-1993-NISSAN-SKYLINE-GTST-RB20DET-2-DOOR-5-SPEED-W0QQAdIdZ273760262

[Cooked Rice]

Originally posted by Lazydream
it has everything included thatu need all i need is the cross member

:rofl:

You're all set to go! Go get 'er done! When you got her running be sure to run all the stop signs and red lights on hot days and maintain at least 50-60KM/H ;)

[Lazydream]

lol sarcasm

[msommers]

Originally posted by 94_S14

let alone throwing off the balance with an engine that has less going for it.



This argument is on the edge of pointless. A fellow awhile ago weighed his s13 with a KA in it and with the RB20. It changed it from a near 50/50 to like 52/48. The results were pretty negligible.

I had the RB20 in my S13 and it was fun but after awhile, I truly wished I had spent a little more and got the RB25. An inline 6 is pretty sweet man. I personally like the RBs vs the SRs.

[Sil80_D]

gah.... rb20...

if you're budgeting, just throw in a KA... they're literally dirt cheap and drop in...

if this isn't a budget build and want an inline 6, skip the rb20 and get an rb25... you will regret the rb20, just like what msommers is sayin'.

[J-hop]

well in the spirit of being helpful a great place for swap kits is mckinney:

http://mckinneymotorsports.com/prod_240SX+RB20+Swap

but as mentioned I to strongly advise against the rb20, the reason you are dropping one in is an increase in power right? (sounds like you don't have the money to throw around just for the sake of "being unique"). If you want power for cheap an sr20 is about the only way to go. I love inline 6s but the rb20 is such a pointless swap and you are going to end up spending WAY more than you would on an SR20 to put power down. As far as I can tell the aftermarket for the RB in northamerica is lagging far behind the sr20 which is something else you should consider

Yea its cool that an inline 6 sounds great and the rb20 is more unique than an sr20, but that doesn't make it a good swap.


I have yet to see someone give me a logical reason for an RB20 over an SR20 swap, the closest (as mentioned) has been the "coolness" factor of an inline 6

btw: if you haven't bought the car yet or haven't become attached to it yet if you have already bought it I've seen sr20 swapped s13s go in the 5k range on kijiji, which won't be much more than you are going to spend on the swap so you should consider that route as well.


edit: just saw that you are looking at a car with a blown ka, how much is the car? a decent shell will be what 1500? so added that to your engine/trans cost of 1443, plus say 500 in incidentals (assuming you don't do a refresh of the engine- ie gasket kit, water pump etc,) and you are sitting just under 3500. Now this is all assuming that you can do the swap yourself and aren't paying a shop to do it. so 3500 and a headache sourcing parts and some labor could have been solved by coughing up 1500 more and purchasing an already swapped sr20 s13.

(just took a quick look on kijiji and there are 3 s13s with sr20s in the 5k range +/- 500)