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derpderp
05-26-2011, 08:21 PM
It appears my roommate has found himself an addiction. It would seem their is pretty typical signs, he is high everyday, goes through withdrawals and says things like "Oh I hate that stuff I'm done with it" and is high by the end of the night.

What should I do? How bad can this stuff get? I'm going to school and I don't want to be in this environment.

spikerS
05-26-2011, 08:22 PM
move. he is just a roommate, not a good friend. if he was, your question would be, how can I help him, not, how do i get out of this environment.

for more information, there is a whole thread about about Oxycontin in ask leo.

derpderp
05-26-2011, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by spikers
move. he is just a roommate, not a good friend. if he was, your question would be, how can I help him, not, how do i get out of this environment.

He is a good friend, but I fear it is to soon to do anything about it, he'll be nothing but denial at this stage. I figure a person isn't going to realize what they are doing is harmful until their addiction causes an issue or two, like a person moving out on them or losing a job for drugs; you know stuff that will show them what they are doing is impeding their life.

It isn't like he isn't being respectable about it, I am curious how bad this stuff can get because I don't want to end up on the street because of someone elses addictions. As I said its already become a daily thing, how much would a daily addiction to this stuff cost a person?

Troll-ol
05-26-2011, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by derpderp


He is a good friend, but I fear it is to soon to do anything about it, he'll be nothing but denial at this stage. I figure a person isn't going to realize what they are doing is harmful until their addiction causes an issue or two, like a person moving out on them or losing a job for drugs; you know stuff that will show them what they are doing is impeding their life.

It isn't like he isn't being respectable about it, I am curious how bad this stuff can get because I don't want to end up on the street because of someone elses addictions. As I said its already become a daily thing, how much would a daily addiction to this stuff cost a person? 10 dollars

derpderp
05-26-2011, 08:34 PM
lol, that was a straight forward answer. I know it self-centered but I am concerned for my own well-being, as I said I am a student and I just barely get by, I can't have any instability in my life. He has a girl over right now and one thing I do fear is this place turning into a drug hangout.

But, yes it does concern me because it is a friend, but I am not a drug prude and if he isn't shoving needles in his arm or doing any other sketchy shit and functioning I'll probably just leave it alone. I do have an additional question, what are the chances stuff like this can kill a person?

spikerS
05-26-2011, 08:34 PM
so, it is a good friend, and your first thoughts are how YOU can get out of the situation. wow.




Originally posted by derpderp


He is a good friend, but I fear it is to soon to do anything about it, he'll be nothing but denial at this stage. I figure a person isn't going to realize what they are doing is harmful until their addiction causes an issue or two, like a person moving out on them or losing a job for drugs; you know stuff that will show them what they are doing is impeding their life.

If he is a good friend, it is NEVER to soon to intervene. I can't believe you put that up there. You sure he is a good friend? If you can't grow a set and confront your "good friend" about it, take my advise and move out. you yourself said it would take that for him to realize it.


It isn't like he isn't being respectable about it, I am curious how bad this stuff can get because I don't want to end up on the street because of someone elses addictions. As I said its already become a daily thing, how much would a daily addiction to this stuff cost a person?

again, check out the thread in ask leo, or

Oxycontin Addiction, specifically the second link (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=oxycontin+addiction)

derpderp
05-26-2011, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by spikers
so, it is a good friend, and your first thoughts are how YOU can get out of the situation. wow.





If he is a good friend, it is NEVER to soon to intervene. I can't believe you put that up there. You sure he is a good friend? If you can't grow a set and confront your "good friend" about it, take my advise and move out. you yourself said it would take that for him to realize it.


again, check out the thread in ask leo, or

Oxycontin Addiction, specifically the second link (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=oxycontin+addiction) [/B]

I guess the reason I don't take this to seriously is because I am not the type of person who takes drugs usage seriously, the stuff is harmful but if a person can function I respect their decisions but it isn't for myself. Like I said it isn't like he is putting needles in his arm and pawning his belongs for drug money.

But I'll possibly consider just bringing it up with him when he is sober. I already commented on it before and had figured it was possible that he had got over it already when he was talking about not doing it anymore but was high again by the end of the night.

Thanks for the link.

MrSector9
05-26-2011, 09:02 PM
it is an extremely bad addiction actually, and he will only get worse, there is no just stopping, your body gets extremely dependant on it.

tell him if he is too far to get clean by himself and has to resort to using methadone, tell him to look into Ibogain treatments, they are expensive but extremely effective.

It is a natural occuring psychoactive and has an 80-90% success rate with a single treatment, the thing is you have to go somewhere that specializes in it, there is a couple places in canada.

http://www.myeboga.com/providers.html

A790
05-26-2011, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by spikers
so, it is a good friend, and your first thoughts are how YOU can get out of the situation. wow.
Who are you to talk down to him? It's common sense that you take care of YOUR SITUATION FIRST and then provide assistance when your own well being is taken care of.

There's nothing wrong with him wanting to ensure that he has a way out should his friend sink further down the Oxy-laden path.

You can't save someone who's drowning if you can't swim.

Kona9
05-26-2011, 11:31 PM
Actually, it will eventually be your shit he is pawning off for the high. No joke. Either help him now, or GTFO. If things are that tight for you and you can't afford the risk, change your living situation for your own well being, and continue being a friend and still help him. It's not a one sided gig.

Welcome to the sacrifices in life. Either sacrifice your lifestyle and education for the hopeful betterment of a friend, or sacrifice a friendship for your own personal well being. They may both work out either way, but you have to decide what is more important to you.

spikerS
05-26-2011, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by A790

Who are you to talk down to him? It's common sense that you take care of YOUR SITUATION FIRST and then provide assistance when your own well being is taken care of.

There's nothing wrong with him wanting to ensure that he has a way out should his friend sink further down the Oxy-laden path.

You can't save someone who's drowning if you can't swim.

easy white night!

read back to his first post. it reads "my room mate is addicted to oxy, I don't want to be around it."

I don't know about you, but room mates in my day were people I shared rent with. good friends that lived with me were people I cared about.

note, that in my initial post. He then clarifies that it is a good friend, but again, while the initial solution is pretty obvious and moving out away from the situation, he shows absolutely no concern for his "good friend", no questions of how do I help him, what resources are available to us, how do I approach him in getting help, it is just more of, "i don't want to be around this shit." seems like a pretty selfish attitude to have when your "good friend" is going down the path of addiction, and your only question is, how bad can it get?

so yes, my opinion was just that. Wow. don't like it? fine, but peddle the white knight shit somewhere else. never mind the fact i pointed him to resources to help the OP as well as his roommate.

WhippWhapp
05-27-2011, 05:22 AM
Junkies can't be trusted, you have been warned!

revelations
05-27-2011, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Kona9
Actually, it will eventually be your shit he is pawning off for the high. No joke. Either help him now, or GTFO.

:werd:

oupzwrongthread
05-27-2011, 08:28 AM
I have had two buddies die from oxy overdoses - If you can live with yourself knowing you could have done something (at least tried), then you should just move out.

nickyh
05-27-2011, 08:53 AM
Addicts always say it's never that bad, they are not addicted and they can quit anytime. It becomes a disease and eventually they have no control over it.
There is a point where you can talk to them but if they are not prepared to accept the truth and admit they have a problem - there is nothing you can do.

You can try talking but I would advise you to look for another place to stay. His issues will become your issues, it's a matter of when, not if.

A790
05-27-2011, 09:01 AM
Originally posted by spikers


easy white night!

read back to his first post. it reads "my room mate is addicted to oxy, I don't want to be around it."

I don't know about you, but room mates in my day were people I shared rent with. good friends that lived with me were people I cared about.

note, that in my initial post. He then clarifies that it is a good friend, but again, while the initial solution is pretty obvious and moving out away from the situation, he shows absolutely no concern for his "good friend", no questions of how do I help him, what resources are available to us, how do I approach him in getting help, it is just more of, "i don't want to be around this shit." seems like a pretty selfish attitude to have when your "good friend" is going down the path of addiction, and your only question is, how bad can it get?

so yes, my opinion was just that. Wow. don't like it? fine, but peddle the white knight shit somewhere else. never mind the fact i pointed him to resources to help the OP as well as his roommate.
I'm not white knighting anything, it's common sense. You have to draw the line somewhere, and when it comes to my living situation, I'm going to make sure that I'm in a position where I know that, regardless of where my friend/roommate goes in regards to their addiction, I will still have somewhere to live.

Never mind the fact that you are assuming that his friend will even seek help or allow to be helped. Your position makes a lot of assumptions that puts the OP needlessly at risk.

Your post may have had good intentions, but just like your reply to mine, it was riddled with a "higher than thou" attitude that negates any benefit it may have offered.

Rule #1 should always be to ensure that you are taken care of. Then you look at how you can help others.

This is a situation where the OP can take care of himself AND help out his friend, and that's an option he would be better served to pursue.

sabad66
05-27-2011, 11:04 AM
How long has it been? Believe it or not, some people do go through phases and can completely drop it. Is this a daily thing?

HuMz
05-27-2011, 12:24 PM
Also does he have a prescription for it for an injury he is/was recovering from. Or is he going too meet a dealer every day. If its the latter of the two I'd get out now.

If he's on a prescription for it you should talk to him about it and find out how much he has left and mention he try something else for the pain.

Rstar
05-27-2011, 12:59 PM
After getting surgery I got a prescription for 1 weeks worth. AFter just 1 week I was sad when there was no more.

JRSC00LUDE
05-27-2011, 01:46 PM
Don't take cheques for rent, cash up front. Lock your bedroom door and don't leave your valuables out.

ekguy
06-15-2011, 05:30 PM
Get out now. Unless this guy gets help oxycodone addiction will only get worse...I have friends who went down that path. First it's popping them, then it's crushing and snorting and then soon enough it's injecting.

It's a really slippery slope with those and I would not, in any way, shape or form, want to live with someone that is currently on said slippery slope. Also once it becomes a really bad addiction be ready to have a very irritable and volatile roomie.

Move out and get him help, or somehow get him help now!!!!

This is not an addiction you mess with from either side of the fence, it's terrible to try and get off of.

Like was mentioned by someone who had them for a week and was sad they were done...Well I had them for an ankle surgery. After 4/5 days i threw them out and asked for t4's from my doctor...There really is no need most times for this strong of a pill.

anhsicun
06-16-2011, 04:06 PM
i have alot of friends who fuk on this shit, it as bad as it get. while ur high on it, the person seems normal and functional but when your off it, that when things get bad. u get sick like a dog, hot and cold flashes, can't eat, cant sleep, and u start puking, basically can't do anything. that when they start relaying on it cuz when u snort more your back to ur normal self and functional.


that wat makes it such a hard drug to quit, it either u go thru all that pain and suffering or snort more and feel better.
also it always hard to talk to oxy users cause they get very very irritated quickly about anything u say. kinda like girls on pms, small lil things will annoy the shit outta them.

i say if he only doing 40 mg and less a day he not that bad and can get off with will power, but if he doing 100 mg+ a day he a straight head and will need alot of help to get off.