C63AMG or ISF.

[Blue]

im considering one of these cars. What are some pros and cons for both of them ? and is it drivable in winter ?

thanks !

[JordanLotoski]

c63 all day long

[Jlude]

Originally posted by JordanLotoski
c63 all day long

QFT

IMO, this isn't much of a comparison. I haven't driven the C63, but wasn't impressed at all with the ISF

[redline]

New or used?

Go drive them yourself and buy what ever you like best.

[Shlade]

I dont know what the difference is on both but I love how the ISF looks over the C63AMG.

[Xtrema]

C63 got the better engine, interior space and brand.

IS-F is cheaper, especially used and a lot more to choose from.

[N1vek]

+1 for C63

Black series :poosie:

[streethondas]

ISF is more reliable!

[M.alex]

03/04 cobra is better!

[beyond_ban]

^ Holy shit you're relentless.

[Modelexis]

ISF looks better.

[Jlude]

Originally posted by beyond_ban
^ Holy shit you're relentless.



:rofl: :rofl: he is!

[M.alex]

Originally posted by beyond_ban
^ Holy shit you're relentless.

:)

[Team_Mclaren]

buy an m3

[Blue]

Thanks for the inputs guys !
but is it possible to drive them in winter time ? with good tires on ? or is it too dangerous because calgarian people cant drive when it begins snowing .. :banghead:

and for Team_mclaren, i have a m3 already haha

[vengie]

why not wait for the 2012 Rs4 :drool:

[Blue]

Originally posted by vengie
why not wait for the 2012 Rs4 :drool:

iv always wanted a lexus 2 years ago and the c63amg was my dream car when i was 16 haha =p never really liked audi that much though .

[max_boost]

Audi is superior for all 4 seasons of Calgary!

How about 911 turbo or some Porsche instead :D

[JordanAndrew]

C63 all the way.

[Blue]

yeah audi is AWD, but i herd slapping on some good winter tires on your c63 and not driving like a douchebag is good enough for winter haha. 911 isnt really my type. plus im still young, driving one of those will make me look like im driving my parents car

[ddduke]

Originally posted by Blue

the c63amg was my dream car when i was 16 haha

wtf, how young are you?

[theken]

He said 2 years ago when he was 16, so by beyond math he is either 1.16 2.14 or 3.18

[bigbadboss101]

Young baller :-)

[max_boost]

Originally posted by Blue
yeah audi is AWD, but i herd slapping on some good winter tires on your c63 and not driving like a douchebag is good enough for winter haha. 911 isnt really my type. plus im still young, driving one of those will make me look like im driving my parents car Yea, wait till you are 25 to get that Porsche. :devil:

IS-F is nice except the rear seats I swear are made for small people. I'm 5'5 and I sat back there and I'm like WTF lol is there any room back here? However it looks hot, drives nice and has a wicked growl.

Never driven the C63 but if rage2 say it's the bomb, well it probably is. You never question rage, at least not on beyond lol :rofl:

[dirtsniffer]

Didnt read page 1, but im assuming you don't like BMW. Anyways just get one with a manual. Lol

[Team_Mclaren]

if you have a E9X M3, whats the point of a c63 or ISF? seem like a waste of time to me...

[Shlade]

Originally posted by M.alex
03/04 cobra is better!

mah man

[blitz]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
if you have a E9X M3, whats the point of a c63 or ISF? seem like a waste of time to me...

Has to spend Daddy's money on something?

[Blue]

Originally posted by blitz


Has to spend Daddy's money on something?

lol, typical question. but no because the M3 is only ment to driven in summer imo. and i want something to drive in winter that is fun yet not so dangerous .

im 21.

[turbotrip]

the is-f looks better but has virtually no space for the back passengers

[M.alex]

Originally posted by Shlade


mah man

:bigpimp:

[redline]

Originally posted by Blue


lol, typical question. but no because the M3 is only ment to driven in summer imo. and i want something to drive in winter that is fun yet not so dangerous .

im 21.

lol then keep looking cause those two are the same shit as the m3, both are high hp rwd cars

get an Audi if you want a winter car or just buy winter tires for the m3.

[ExtraSlow]

if you think the M3 can't be driven in the winter, then you sure can't drive the other two either.

Maybe just buy some steelies and nokians for the M3, instead of thinking you need another car.

[max_boost]

Go test drive the S4. I was very impressed with the car when I drove it.

[Xamim]

I know its not on the list, but how about an RS4. Decent power, and unlike the other two it has awd for the winter.

[ZorroAMG]

I want an apple to eat for lunch because my Macintosh apple is only for breakfast. Should I get a Delicious or a Granny Smith?

[ExtraSlow]

Fuck that, Braeburn is the only suitable apple for eating at lunch.

[InRich]

Originally posted by turbotrip
the is-f looks better but has virtually no space for the back passengers

or the front for that matter. I'm 6.1 and I DO NOT fit in that car.


Originally posted by max_boost
Go test drive the S4. I was very impressed with the car when I drove it.
me too!

[saiyajin]

Originally posted by max_boost
Yea, wait till you are 25 to get that Porsche. :devil:

IS-F is nice except the rear seats I swear are made for small people. I'm 5'5 and I sat back there and I'm like WTF lol is there any room back here? However it looks hot, drives nice and has a wicked growl.

Never driven the C63 but if rage2 say it's the bomb, well it probably is. You never question rage, at least not on beyond lol :rofl:



:werd: QFT after seeing that ISF pass us on the cruise :drool:

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by max_boost
Go test drive the S4. I was very impressed with the car when I drove it.

Or better yet, TT RS.

Damn thing is hot.

[Blue]

i guess im going to get an 09 GTR :poosie:

[max_boost]

Originally posted by Xtrema


Or better yet, TT RS.

Damn thing is hot.

Bart bought one. Excited to see it hit the roads next month!


Originally posted by Blue
i guess im going to get an 09 GTR :poosie: Used? That's weak. :thumbsdow :poosie:

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Blue
i guess im going to get an 09 GTR :poosie:

Now that's winter beater.

Some expensive snow shoes tho....

http://www.tirerack.com/snow/WinterTireCompare.jsp?minLoad=S&sortSize=20&snowSortCode=20550&autoYear=2009&autoMake=Nissan&autoModel=GT-R&autoModClar=&winterType=CD&frontWidth=255/&frontRatio=40&frontDiameter=20&frontSortCode=60049&rearWidth=285/&rearRatio=35&rearDiameter=20&rearSortCode=60101&startIndex=0&search=true&performance=W

[Blue]

Originally posted by max_boost


Bart bought one. Excited to see it hit the roads next month!

Used? That's weak. :thumbsdow :poosie:

haha, oh well. too poor to buy a new one :cry:

[Blue]

Originally posted by Xtrema


Now that's winter beater.

Some expensive snow shoes tho....

http://www.tirerack.com/snow/WinterTireCompare.jsp?minLoad=S&sortSize=20&snowSortCode=20550&autoYear=2009&autoMake=Nissan&autoModel=GT-R&autoModClar=&winterType=CD&frontWidth=255/&frontRatio=40&frontDiameter=20&frontSortCode=60049&rearWidth=285/&rearRatio=35&rearDiameter=20&rearSortCode=60101&startIndex=0&search=true&performance=W

i was thinking of putting all season tire on :dunno:

[max_boost]

Originally posted by Blue


i was thinking of putting all season tire on :dunno: Don't troll us man. :rofl: :confused:

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Blue


i was thinking of putting all season tire on :dunno:

http://troll.me/images/futurama-fry/not-sure-if-serious-or-trolling.jpg

All season is about the same price as winters.

[benyl]

Originally posted by Blue


haha, oh well. too poor to buy a new one :cry:

I guess you have not looked into GTR maintenance.

[vengie]

Originally posted by Blue


haha, oh well. too poor to buy a new one :cry:

21? with an E9x M3? and buying a GTR as a winter beater?

Must be nice...

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

911 Turbo for your everyday needs I say...

[Blue]

lol i was trolling :D
and i have looked at the maintenance its pretty costly but i think i can handle it if i dont abuse the launch control all the time.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by Blue
lol i was trolling :D
and i have looked at the maintenance its pretty costly but i think i can handle it if i dont abuse the launch control all the time.

Is there a way to tell if the previous owner abused LC and would be passing on a pending repair bill?

[max_boost]

If the car can't handle launch control, why even have it on the car if using it a few times will blow shit up.

I use launch control on my GTI frequently. It's fucking awesome haha

[Blue]

Originally posted by max_boost
If the car can't handle launch control, why even have it on the car if using it a few times will blow shit up.

I use launch control on my GTI frequently. It's fucking awesome haha


max is ten times. then gotta repair for ten g lol.

[max_boost]

Originally posted by Blue



max is ten times. then gotta repair for ten g lol.

Blah 10g is nothing for young baller like you. Pay to play. :burnout:

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Blue
max is ten times. then gotta repair for ten g lol.

I thought all 2010 and newer GT-R doesn't have this issue while older ones may or many not have the latest launch control software and may have tranny issues.

[zipdoa]

Originally posted by ZorroAMG
I want an apple to eat for lunch because my Macintosh apple is only for breakfast. Should I get a Delicious or a Granny Smith?

Granny Smith will make people think your parents packed your lunch.

[94boosted]

The ISF will be cheaper to buy used, and most likely cheaper to maintain too. But as has been said the C63 & ISF are very similar cars to the M3 Sedan so :dunno:

[benyl]

Originally posted by 94boosted
and most likely cheaper to maintain too.

I don't think so.

A brake job on an ISF is just as expensive as the C63 or M3. It might actually be more expensive.

Front Rotors for the ISF are ~$500 a piece. You are looking at at least $3-$4K for a brake job front and rear.

[Orbie]

Originally posted by Xtrema


I thought all 2010 and newer GT-R doesn't have this issue while older ones may or many not have the latest launch control software and may have tranny issues.

There's a lot of incorrect info here, just to clear things up: LC1 for 2009, LC2 for 2010, LC3 for 2011 and LC4 for 2012.

LC1 and LC4 are the most brutal with 4000K+ clutch drops. LC1 has no limit, LC4 has a limit of 4 consecutive times before deactivating to let the transmission cool down (regular driving about a mile), then it will let you continue. LC4 can't be easily moved down to pre models because much of the performance of the 2012 car is in performance improvements on the car not the LC itself. LC1 has no limit which allowed drivers to launch consecutively many times in a row (not like 10 more like 30+) and grenade the tranny. Nissan classifies the GR6 as a non-serviceable part, meaning if something goes wrong it's policy to replace the whole thing, thus the $20K tranny replacement everyone talks about. Today there is so much aftermarket support and capable tuners for the GR6 even if something happens to the tranny, full replacement is no longer necessary, you can get it repaired for a small fraction of that cost. Lots of 2009's still run LC1 and use it.

As for LC2, this was available to be put on 2009 cars for free, gives you generally consistent ~3.5s 0-60 times with warranty and can be used all you want. It's a softer launch at 3K-3.5K but Nissan reworked clutch engagement and other things to allow it to match the 0-60 times of the LC1. It keeps warranty because VDC does not need to be turned off as in LC1. With either case just turning VDC off does not void your warranty by itself, something has to break while VDC is off for that to become a possibility. Even in that case (after Nissan's transmission lawsuit), Nissan has to proove that having VDC off caused the failure. Having VDC off is not enough just to void your warranty if something breaks. It also has to be off at the time of the failure not just in history.

Back to the topic, the GT-R is a good winter beater, but I would highly advise winters, the all-seasons really don't cut it.

[bituerbo]

I can't believe you're cross-shopping between a C63 and an ISF. Based on your original question, the C63 is best. For a winter vehicle in Calgary, it's absolutely the wrong choice (sorry to the half-dozen of you that already do this). Having a winter daily (09' GTR) that outpaces your summer daily (E92 M3 I think I read?) doesn't make a lot of sense.

If you want something winter-sporty yet still practical: STi/Evo. Neither are luxury brands, but with muddy/snowy boots, you don't want to be effing up any seal-skin-suede interiors. Also you find your cars become much more enjoyable when you stop caring about them. I know I couldn't take a GTR through a snow covered gravel road with a smile on my face.

[NewLextasy]

My c63 is my winter car. With good winter tires you will be fine.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by bituerbo
I know I couldn't take a GTR through a snow covered gravel road with a smile on my face.

But ballers do it with a smile. :rofl: