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Alak
10-23-2011, 10:44 AM
Good day lads, and ladies!

I've been away for quite awhile, in fact I dont think I've seen any of you lads in almost, if not, over a year. Fact is, lifes been busy. I havent been able to show the ol' girl (my 2002 Land Rover Discovery) the love and appriciation it deserves over the year. Some time ago in an effort to breathe life back into my mazda rx-7, my land rover decided to have a temper tantrum on the way home. At 1 AM. On the transcanada.

If ever you wondered what kind of damage a clutch driven fan produced turning at god knows how fast, and desintigrating in less than a second, look no further.

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Since these photos, I've replaced the radiator, waterpump, all the pullies and tensioner, all 6 radiator hoses (6 friggin hoses!!) both transmission oil cooler lines. I've completed a tauraus e-fan conversion, using a totally automated tempurature switch. Changed all fluids, etc.

Damage didnt stop there though. My airbox is completely destroyed, my hood has a massive dent in it (to add to my other dents). Im continually picking plastic pieces out of places, and more importantly, when I first started it after the accident and I completed the work. Disaster. Much plastic had made its way into the intake manifold. A solution that worked was to hook up a shop vac to the TB and giver, while slowly turning the engine over (fuses pulled of course). It worked and saved the day.

When it happend I complained I should just fix it and sell it. Buy that pickup I been needing for the last couple years. But when I rolled to the first set of lights, and got a thumbs up from the truck beside me. I realized I wasnt ready to let her go yet.


But, there is much more work to be done.

AndyL
10-23-2011, 11:17 AM
If its got Tits or wheels it'll cost ya $ :D

Double up the temp sensor/relays - they have a habit of failing at the worst possible time (preferably - add a manual toggle so you have a manual option too)

The rest just begs for upgrades :D you know you want a snorkel :D

Alak
10-23-2011, 07:22 PM
These temp sensors are from X-Engineering in the UK. Its an inline dual temp sensor switch. It works amazing, I use the exact same setup on my rx-7. If it does fail, I can easily bypass the switch with a jumper wire.

I do have a snorkel. Unfortunately the fan took out the airbox, so I need one of those for it to actually work. Im using an r-active cone filter right on the MAS airflow sensor. Gives it a bit of a throaty growl and I feel more ricer when I drive it. Overall without the clutch fan its amazing. It actually coasts now instead of decellerating. Im hoping for a big milage improvement. Maybe from 8MPG to 9MPG.

I've got some other plans for it too. I need a new rear diff soon so I might throw in a true trac, or maybe an airlocker. Im thinking of gutting the whole truck and turning it into a hardcore trail rig. But then again, theres nothing like lightly rolling through the bush in a lap of luxury.

Cheers.

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Alak
10-23-2011, 07:27 PM
http://www.x-eng.co.uk/X-Fan.asp

Heres a link to the site where I got the temp sensor from. They make a variety of sizes. A 38mm fit snug on my Rx-7 and when I used the 38mm on my land rover I really had to squeeze the hose over it. I'd go with a 34mm next time.

Its dual temp instead of single so when it gets hotter you can wire it to kick on the 2nd speed on a 2 speed fan, or a second fan altogether. Thats the only reason I went with this sensor over other sensors that were availiable. I couldn't find any dual temp sensors anywhere else.

It cost me about $58 to my door.

Twin_Cam_Turbo
10-23-2011, 07:28 PM
Thats a nice looking Discovery!

Sugarphreak
10-23-2011, 08:43 PM
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Redlyne_mr2
10-24-2011, 09:00 PM
strange that the fan clutch didnt make any weird noises before it failed. Mine screamed like a banshee so I found a nice low mileage one at a local wrecker. Sorry to hear about the damage man, all those parts are pricey. Hope everything else is good with the truck.

CelicaST-162
10-24-2011, 11:13 PM
Glad to hear you're still around. I'd recommend the Air Lokka for sure!

Alak
10-25-2011, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
strange that the fan clutch didnt make any weird noises before it failed. Mine screamed like a banshee so I found a nice low mileage one at a local wrecker. Sorry to hear about the damage man, all those parts are pricey. Hope everything else is good with the truck.

The clutch was okay for the most part. I think It chose that time to lock up and since I was merging (over 3500RPM) the fan just gave up the ghost.

When I took the fan out off the water pump, the clutch was a little stiff but it still turned. But very stiff compared to the replacement I aquired awhile back (incase the clutch ever siezed). I dont trust clutch fans, not in a million years.

I was able to get a deicent deal on parts through britpart. Radiator was the most expensive, but I have a nice shiney new one in there now. The e-fan setup works fantastic. Biggest difference I noticed? The truck coasts now when you let off the gas, instead of rapidly decelerating.


I've been gravely neglecting the truck this year in an effort to get my car finished. Although the car is a never-ending process, Im happy with it now and I'll continue work on my land rover. Im considering a diesel conversion, involving serious drivetrain modifications to the truck. Who knows?

Abeo
10-25-2011, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Alak

I've got some other plans for it too. I need a new rear diff soon so I might throw in a true trac, or maybe an airlocker. Im thinking of gutting the whole truck and turning it into a hardcore trail rig. But then again, theres nothing like lightly rolling through the bush in a lap of luxury.


Loooooove my truetrac. My truck is 2wd and I don't do crazy offroad, but I wouldn't hesitate putting it in a 4wd. It won't act like a locker if you 3 wheel all over the trail, but hitting the brakes is enough to transfer power to the wheel on the ground. When I got it, I tried one wheel on ice, one on pavement, and dumped the clutch. It actually spun the wheel on pavement :nut:

Cornering with it is exactly like an open diff, except no one wheel peel, no snap oversteer, and only when you get on it hard will you notice it work at all. It is actually less 'fun' than a clutch LSD, because it doesn't just lock the wheels together, it drives the outside wheel more than the inside, so the back end is less tail happy.

Alak
10-26-2011, 03:51 PM
A couple people in our land rover club use them on their Discovery 2's with the traction control. They say because the traction control uses the brakes, when a tire slips, the TC grabs a brake, and then locks up the diff. It even works in the air. Because of this, alot of D2 guys never setup up to airlockers, because theres no need.