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CUG
11-16-2011, 03:10 AM
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-57325134-281/google-facebook-zynga-oppose-new-sopa-copyright-bill/?tag=reddit

I lost my wig. I am so tired of these old politicians. The picture in the link is the agent of all the things I hate about the USA. You smug shithead, go drown in a cesspool.

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/11/15/lamar.smith_270x208.png

This is my last "angry and emotional post" of the month, I promise.

Grogador
11-16-2011, 03:59 AM
Want a say? Buy your own congress critters... Ok put away your disgust for government and lobby groups forasec. I'm not really seeing what this will accomplish. Is the DMCA not enough? It seems to work pretty darn well in law-abiding countries, while mostly respecting fair use provisions. Do they really believe that undermining the DNS system will bother pirates one bit, even the casual ones? Ask the UK how well that is going for them. Have they learnt nothing from the past several decades of copy protection, DRM, macrovision, phreaking, console cracking, phone jailbreaking, etc? I don't think this bill is so much about piracy as it is about censorship, control and the enslaving of online Americans. I almost hopes this goes through so we can watch Google, eBay, Mozilla, Yahoo, the EFF and everyone who understands free speech and common carrier status rip it to shreds in federal court.

codetrap
11-16-2011, 09:50 AM
I think people seem to forget that DNS isn't the be all end all of getting around the internet, and that circumventing the existing DNS system is far to easy. All one has to do is to throw up their own DNS servers, or simply not use them at all within the P2P networks.

Feruk
11-16-2011, 10:18 AM
Gotta love lobbyists. Clearly those running the USA are unbias... I grabbed this from one of the comments on that website:



@solitare_pax

Here's the congressional money trail from SOPA supporters in entertainment and publishing.
How will they vote?

Top recipients for ALL supporting interest groups

Name
Amount Received

Sen. Harry Reid [D, NV]
$2,335,183

Sen. Charles Schumer [D, NY]
$2,016,955

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand [D, NY]
$1,650,251

Sen. Barbara Boxer [D, CA]
$1,163,223

Sen. Michael Bennet [D, CO]
$767,772

Sen. Patrick Leahy [D, VT]
$737,110

Sen. Robert Portman [R, OH]
$714,176

Sen. Mark Kirk [R, IL]
$471,721

Sen. Ron Wyden [D, OR]
$423,313

Sen. Patty Murray [D, WA]
$413,000

Rep. Howard Berman [D, CA-28]
$454,598

Rep. Bruce Braley [D, IA-1]
$360,989

Rep. Michael Capuano [D, MA-8]
$320,580

Rep. Patrick Meehan [R, PA-7]
$249,800

Rep. Allyson Schwartz [D, PA-13]
$243,319

Rep. Eric Cantor [R, VA-7]
$239,300

Rep. John Barrow [D, GA-12]
$218,080

Rep. Gary Peters [D, MI-9]
$216,748

Rep. Nancy Pelosi [D, CA-8]
$213,550

Rep. Carolyn Maloney [D, NY-14]
$209,610


Hmm, wonder how they'll be voting... If this isn't corruption, I don't know what is.

SmAcKpOo
11-16-2011, 08:18 PM
If this passes, Canada will soon follow suit.

The new manifestation of bill c-32 is going to hit the HOC in the new year and it is similar to the USA's bill.

UndrgroundRider
11-17-2011, 04:07 AM
Originally posted by codetrap
I think people seem to forget that DNS isn't the be all end all of getting around the internet, and that circumventing the existing DNS system is far to easy. All one has to do is to throw up their own DNS servers, or simply not use them at all within the P2P networks.

Yea, I can't see this being enforceable, even if the bill passes. 9/13 root servers operate from multiple countries using anycast. The US might be able to control domestic DNS servers, but I doubt foreign operators will bend over. Even if the US filters all DNS traffic like the great firewall of china, people will just bypass it via proxy/vpn/dnssec. Playing the cat and mouse game with piraters is a waste of time... just ask the MPAA/RIAA. And like you said, DNS really isn't necessary for P2P.