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westbeach70
11-17-2011, 10:43 PM
Good day all. Hey just wondering if anyone knows how to trace back to see who the previous owner of a truck is before me? I just purchased a truck off a guy in town here, that was working for us for the past couple days. After I had bought this truck he has not been seen since... We did up a bill of sale, and what not got his signature, a witness and then my signature. Just wanna make sure this truck is not stolen or belongs to a " buddy " of his and he just up and sold it..

Thanks...

J-hop
11-17-2011, 10:46 PM
Please tell me you carproofed it before you bought it...

I don't think registries are allowed to give out personal information but I could be wrong.

MrSector9
11-17-2011, 10:48 PM
The registry can tell you if it is stolen or has a lien on it, costs like $20. If stolen then call the police.

if not stolen/no lien its yours?

yoda124
11-17-2011, 10:49 PM
You don't know how...:facepalm:

westbeach70
11-17-2011, 10:53 PM
Nah its all good I did carfax / carproof it / lien search it before i bought it, but what i am saying is what happens if this dude " borrowed " it off a family member which i don't know if he did or not, and then sold it to me here... And the family member or friend thinks he still has it... I have no clue... I just wanna find out that infact this guy with the last name of Wells owned this truck, and sold it to me, and i have no worries of it belonging to someone else... BDX 2581 is the plate that was on it when I bought it.. If someone can look it up and make sure that infact it was the Mr Wells that owned that plate, then all is clear ...

J-hop
11-17-2011, 11:04 PM
I think you'll be fine, did you record his license number on the bill of sale?

Btw I hope the registry didn't scam you into a lien search on top of a carproof, the carproof report checks for liens as well!

westbeach70
11-17-2011, 11:08 PM
Yeah... I did record the old plate on the bill of sale, but now I typed in the plate on the http://www.cpic-cipc.ca/English/search.cfm site and it comes up a stolen plate... So I don't know... Type in the vin # and its good to go, but typed in the plate number and it comes back possibly stolen... So called the police and they are getting back to me...

J-hop
11-17-2011, 11:11 PM
I was asking about the guy's drivers license, you are supposed to record that in the identification section of the Alberta bill of sale.

westbeach70
11-17-2011, 11:17 PM
Yeah no, he had lost EVERYTHING he owned and needed the cash, to get his id and what not back... So we did up a paper bill of sale, which is where I am kinda leary about is... I am going to go to where he aparantly is working tomorrow and find out his drivers license number.... Or else the registeries, but usually don't they check before they re register it to a new owner to make sure the legit owner is selling the truck??? I know I would...

J-hop
11-17-2011, 11:39 PM
Weird, that sounds oddly convenient, isn't it like $25 to get a new license if you lose yours?

I don't think the registry will check that the seller on the BOS matches the last recorded owner.

westbeach70
11-18-2011, 01:14 AM
Well update... Low and behold!!! Truck was stolen from Red Deer! While running in a parking lot... So beware people the guy has a Alberta Tattoo on his neck and going around with his native girlfriend, his name is or he claims to be Mr. Michael J Wells, and his girlfriend is Samantha Lester...

tobypaddock
11-18-2011, 01:21 AM
So are u screwed then or what?

Khalil.e
11-18-2011, 01:43 AM
There is so much wrong with everything in the scenario you laid out...
I almost can't believe that you went through with this 'purchase'.

cde1966
11-18-2011, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by Khalil.e
There is so much wrong with everything in the scenario you laid out...
I almost can't believe that you went through with this 'purchase'.

This.

Is it really that simple to part a man from his money? Maybe my wife is right when she says, "there's no stupid people in this world, they're really stupid people"

Rat Fink
11-18-2011, 07:46 AM
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J-hop
11-18-2011, 07:58 AM
That is too bad op, hope you aren't out a lot of money and they catch the guy. You obviously know this by now but when buying a vehicle you need to see 2 pieces of ID and write down at least one of them on the BOS never buy a vehicle if the person cant provide this. I would never buy a vehicle if I didn't know where the person lived either. Also, never pay cash for a vehicle, a bank draft is only a few dollars and it gives you a paper trail as well as making it quite difficult for a person to cash it if they give you a fake name.

If you are still looking for a truck make sure you print off a few copies of the Alberta bill of sale. To be honest even if the vehicle wasn't stolen and the guy was legit I doubt the registry would accept your scrap paper bill of sale with no information on it.

BrknFngrs
11-18-2011, 07:59 AM
Originally posted by Khalil.e
There is so much wrong with everything in the scenario you laid out...
I almost can't believe that you went through with this 'purchase'.

I hate to say this but I'm with Khalil.e

On a side note, did you get the vehicle for an "unbelievably good" price?

Strider
11-18-2011, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by westbeach70
Just wanna make sure this truck is not stolen or belongs to a " buddy " of his and he just up and sold it..

You're making sure now? Why not make sure before buying it?

Was it this truck?

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?threadid=340312

Originally posted by westbeach70
hey guys... hey just wondering if someone can do a VIN search for me as I am looking at this truck for SUPER cheap, and just wanna make sure its not a write off or anything.. thanks, if you could email it to me at [email protected] or attach it as a Private Message here that would be great of ya, I'd owe ya some wobbly pop's for whomever can do it for me...Thanks...

VIN # 1GCCS146848130692
2004 CHEVY COLORADO

thanks again...

chris...

"SUPER cheap"? Sounds like you had it coming. How much are you out?

YamaLube
11-18-2011, 10:49 AM
Buy first ask questions later, this is how I conduct all my purchases. I just got a killer deal on a new BMW, almost half price, the dude is overseas and is going to ship it to me at no cost after I wire a deposit, can't wait.............

Stunt66
11-18-2011, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Khalil.e
There is so much wrong with everything in the scenario you laid out...
I almost can't believe that you went through with this 'purchase'.

There's nothing wrong with what he did. OP, you'll probably need a new truck now and i have one for sale. It's a 2010 range rover and ill let it go for $10,000(the price is low because i wanna help you out). I also have to mention that I lost all my keys but ive ordered them from the dealer but it'll take 3 weeks, in the mean time my dealer set it up to start with a screwdriver. let me know

jonnycat
11-18-2011, 03:09 PM
Originally posted by YamaLube
Buy first ask questions later, this is how I conduct all my purchases. I just got a killer deal on a new BMW, almost half price, the dude is overseas and is going to ship it to me at no cost after I wire a deposit, can't wait.............

:rofl:

Sugarphreak
11-18-2011, 08:11 PM
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schurchill39
11-18-2011, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by J-hop
*snip* I doubt the registry would accept your scrap paper bill of sale with no information on it.

Sure they will. All they need is the VIN, name and price. When I was younger I bought and sold many cars and always either made my own bill of sale or the seller would on a piece of paper. I had the other guy's personal info separate from the bill of sale and never once had trouble registering a vehicle.

J-hop
11-18-2011, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by schurchill39


Sure they will. All they need is the VIN, name and price. When I was younger I bought and sold many cars and always either made my own bill of sale or the seller would on a piece of paper. I had the other guy's personal info separate from the bill of sale and never once had trouble registering a vehicle.

What I meant was he didn't have any of the guys personal info by the sounds of it. If you show up to the registry with a scrap piece of paper that says I dun sell this vehicle to OP that doesn't mean shit to them.

xnvy
11-20-2011, 02:22 PM
Ouch... That sucks

Originally posted by Rat Fink
Back to the old saying, if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is!
So OP, what happens now?

Guillermo
11-20-2011, 02:34 PM
how much money did you give the guy?