Luxury or speed for a DD?

[black13]

Which one is more important than the other to you?
You can have both but usually at a high cost.

so does everyone eventually go for more luxury as they get older?

[redline]

Both... Get an M3, done

[Cos]

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[zipdoa]

Just get an older car with both (benz/bmw/audi)

[ddduke]

Most luxury cars aren't that slow to begin with but I'd choose luxury any day. I spend way too much time in my car on a daily basis to not be comfortable. I'm sure most people 25 and up will agree.

[black13]

Originally posted by redline
Both... Get an M3, done
Is an M3 really that good for DD'ing in winter though?
and for luxury I mean mostly 4 door cars with some options in the back seats as well.


Originally posted by zipdoa
Just get an older car with both (benz/bmw/audi)

True good alternative, your URS4 looks like a perfect mix, but how is maintanence on those older high end cars? Do they break down often?

[revelations]

Get an AWD, high-end Subaru.

Slightly luxurious with good acceleration and handling for all weather conditions (provided you have the right tires).

[revelations]

Originally posted by black13
True good alternative, your URS4 looks like a perfect mix, but how is maintanence on those older high end cars? Do they break down often?

Maintenance is typically a high cost of owning a high end vehicle, esp the Audi/BMW variety.

[f150mikey060]

Im 22 and I DD my STI year round which has a true 350awhp, its not exactly luxury but its pretty comfortable. Drove to LA and back up the PCH last month and it wasnt bad at all except for the noise. I dont mind it at all however i am sure once i get a couple years older I will start to lean towards a luxury car.

[zipdoa]

Originally posted by black13

Is an M3 really that good for DD'ing in winter though?
and for luxury I mean mostly 4 door cars with some options in the back seats as well.



True good alternative, your URS4 looks like a perfect mix, but how is maintanence on those older high end cars? Do they break down often?

UrS4 is really the perfect mix. The problem is finding one with low k/in good shape.

Maintenance is relatively simple and inexpensive on UrS4's/most older I5 Audis.

[bastardchild]

I went the luxury road a few months ago (Lexus IS350), I got bored and decided to go for both (Audi RS4). Sometimes I forget I ever had that Lexus.

[dimi]

Speed.

An evo 9 will replace my s2000 soon.

[Chandler_Racing]

Luxury.

[Graham_A_M]

Get a fairly fast nice luxury car. I used to have sports cars as DD's my whole life. This is the first time I bought a super quiet very nice luxury car, and I cant say I miss the noisy, rough sports cars in the least for a year round car.

[That.Guy.S30]

Luxury > speed. You can't go that fast in town anyways.

I rather have 200hp 911 over a 500hp subaru

[Idiot Stick]

Luxury.

Mind you, I think my Mr2 is comfy enough as is

[freshprince1]

It really just depends where your preferences lie. I drove a Maxima for a couple years as a DD and absolutely loved the ride, comfort, and power...in fact, that might be a good compromise. I now have a Legacy GT with upgrades...it's definitely more speed than luxury. For now I'm happy with the Legacy, but everytime I think of those big comfy maxima leather seats and all the room...I find myself wishing the Subie was more comfortable.

[rage2]

Originally posted by That.Guy.S30
Luxury > speed. You can't go that fast in town anyways.

I rather have 200hp 911 over a 500hp subaru
It's not about going fast, it's about accelerating fast. Tons of opportunity to do that around town.

Both are a must have for me, but I would definately go power first.

[funkedelic2]

a good dose of both. For a d/d i would maybe lean more towards luxury

[Kloubek]

As has been said - not hard to get both... you just need to get something a bit older if there are budget concerns.

As has also been said - the S4 is a create blending of both. Plus with the Quattro it is excellent in the winter with the right tires. B5 S4's can be had for under 10g these days. For even cheaper you can get an A6 2.7 or 4.2. I absolutely loved the interior of my 4.2.

[Kardon]

Aristo would be one of japans best for speed+comfort

[max_boost]

S4 for sure.

I test drove a 2010 S4 and it was amazing. :drool: :burnout:

[K3RMiTdot]

X5M
the end

[msommers]

^^You're pretty easy to please then!

If I had to choose, it would be luxury.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Speed. I'd rock an Ariel Atom or Lotus 2-Eleven everyday if I didn't live in a climate such as Calgary...

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by Kloubek
For even cheaper you can get an A6 2.7 or 4.2. I absolutely loved the interior of my 4.2.

Just stay the fuck away from 2.7tt with tiptronic... major problems, expensive fixes. (just ask any Allroad owner :rofl: )

[Maxx Mazda]

Originally posted by revelations
Get an AWD, high-end Subaru.

Slightly luxurious with good acceleration and handling for all weather conditions (provided you have the right tires).

Subarus have AWD. You don't need any special tires...

[Redlyne_mr2]

Most Luxury cars have some power to them

[adamc]

M5 is the ultimate DD, fast and supple

[ekguy]

Both!!!

:bigpimp:

[Shlade]

If I could afford it I would get both. And that both would be a SRT8 Jeep or charger

[terryengine]

luxury :D

[n1zm0]

an all-year DD in Calgary, awd luxury would be ideal imo, as said it would probably have some power to it already most likely.

[Neil4Speed]

Luxury, but it is reasonable to have both.

[shin0bi]

I think luxury and speed are entirely subjective. Fast to me is probably a joke to Rage_2.

You looking to set some land-speed records, or just be able to merge onto deerfoot quickly and safely? Like others have mentioned, acceleration is more important that top speed... at least for city driving. So find something torquey.

Are you looking to be able to have your ass massaged on the way to work in your alcantara seats, or just have something that will get you where you're going in a comfortable manner?

Is budget a factor? What about drivetrain? 4 doors?

Check out a Mazdaspeed 6 if you wanted decent acceleration and appointments at a good price.

[Jlude]

Originally posted by black13

Is an M3 really that good for DD'ing in winter though?
and for luxury I mean mostly 4 door cars with some options in the back seats as well.



True good alternative, your URS4 looks like a perfect mix, but how is maintanence on those older high end cars? Do they break down often?


Been DDing my M3 this winter - blown away by how well it's handled, even sold my civic because of it.

[vengie]

Both, DD my b7 s4.

Another year or two I'll look into a new s4 or s5

[zipdoa]

About as nice as an interior will get for under $5k:

http://ursparts.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/s4dash.jpg

[redline]

Originally posted by black13

Is an M3 really that good for DD'ing in winter though?
and for luxury I mean mostly 4 door cars with some options in the back seats as well?

M3 has 4 door options and there is nothing wrong with a M3 in the winter with good winter tires. I never had a problem getting around every day with the m3 and with a stock exhuast they are quite...

[max_boost]

Originally posted by Jlude



Been DDing my M3 this winter - blown away by how well it's handled, even sold my civic because of it.

The BMW's are an absolute tank with winter tires. So good I told people it was dummy proof. They were non believers until they drove it. You couldn't spin out haha

Don't know about the newer ones but the E46 were so damn good.

[M.alex]

speed

[xnvy]

Both. Although right now my DD suffers from a lack of both. :(

[black13]

Well realistically, power wise I mean something with at least 350hp.
And by luxury I mean really high end with stuff like heated and power seats in the front and back and all those really nice options.
S4, M3, C63, those cars have a good mix of both but at high costs.

If you really prefer Luxury you would go for something like an A7, S-class, 7 series though.


Originally posted by redline


M3 has 4 door options and there is nothing wrong with a M3 in the winter with good winter tires. I never had a problem getting around every day with the m3 and with a stock exhuast they are quite...
ah interesting, can you guys use all that power comfortably in the snow or do you just drive slow to get through those days?
How about uphill at lights? I've seen a few bimmers and infiniti's struggle at up hills even with winters sometimes.

[redline]

Traction control gets a lot of use in the winter... I live in the west end of city with lots of hills and never had an issue getting to or from the house.

[K3RMiTdot]

OR FX50 S

not too fast, but pretty luxurious =)

[S-FLY]

Luxury and speed. G37S coupe driven in winter... but of course you need to get a good set of winter tires.

Nobody said it had to be practical though. ;)

[psycoticclown]

Go get an XFR. Test drove one a few weeks back, super fast and super luxurious. You can find a 2010 with 2k miles for $60k in the US

[03ozwhip]

DD-luxury IMO. i have a TL which is semi-luxury and its decently quick and i have the GT4 which is as far from luxury as it gets and is pretty damn quick, so i have both, but if you can get a newer AWD luxury vehicle it will be sub 300hp anyways and be exactly what you need.

[Tomaz]

For a daily driver, I would go luxury. Ususally some good power can be had going this route anyway.

If you drive rush hour, having speed get you nowhere. Luxury makes the 15km/h commute so much better.

[JordanLotoski]

Originally posted by psycoticclown
Go get an XFR. Test drove one a few weeks back, super fast and super luxurious. You can find a 2010 with 2k miles for $60k in the US

:thumbsup: I've had mine for 2 years now still loving it

[happy tree]

Im diggin my 540i right now. Good handling, decent power and all the comfort you will ever need. Love the heated steering wheel on those cold days. If it had awd it would be almost perfect.

[guessboi]

Originally posted by Tomaz
For a daily driver, I would go luxury. Ususally some good power can be had going this route anyway.

If you drive rush hour, having speed get you nowhere. Luxury makes the 15km/h commute so much better.

+1. I believe speed is a factor less than 5% of the time. 95% of the time you are in traffic, or @speed limit so go for luxury. :thumbsup:

[A3GTiVR6SC]

Slightly modded Evo VIII 5spd as a DD. :poosie:
No creature comforts an love it!

[jonnycat]

I bought my awd Charger r/t as it was the best of both worlds in my budget.

0-60 5 second range. 1/4 in 13's

pretty luxurious imo (8.4" touch screen/ nav / back up camera, nappa leather, hid, htd and cooled cup holders, usb/aux/sd inputs, htd. rear seats etc.)
http://image.automobilemag.com/f/33107974+w750+st0/2011-dodge-charger-rallye-plus-dash.jpg

It has a huge trunk, and I hate trunks as hatch's are so much more practical. This is only my second car with trunk, had 5 with hatch's.
http://0.tqn.com/d/cars/1/0/b/W/2/ag_11chargerrt_trunk.JPG

Awd automatically engages under proper conditons (temp, rain, t/c disabled). My favorite part is I can totally diable awd and still do nice fat burnouts within 10 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnYAVrX8UV4

And my mileage is pretty good, below in sig

While it doesn't handle like my sti did, it beats driving an suv around corners and is damn comfy after a day at work.

[962 kid]

Speed for me still... Last year I had no A/C, no heater, no sunroof, no P/S, no stereo, and a cloth bucket with deep bolsters and there wasn't a single day that I would have traded it for anything else.

[Sorath]

probably for a daily driver. speed and reliability

hence why i have an evo now, over my 335

[Graham_A_M]

I dont know how well this is going to go over as its kind of an odd suggestion.
I ended up picking up a '07 Saturn Aura XR as a DD since my old DD shit the bed in the worst way, and for the $10k it cost me its one helluva nice car.
Still quick enough (0-60 in 5.5 with a 14.5 second 1/4 mile) yet it gets decent fuel economy on the highway (30-32mpg)

the early XR's have the 250hp/250tq 3.6 V6 from the Cadillac CTS's & the G6 GTP's. Its an auto but you can put it into manual and use the paddle shifters on the steering wheel when you want a more spirited driving experience.

Its a very comfy, practical car. Heated seats, very quiet, super nice driving and still handles decently. No sports car obviously, but with some high performance all seasons I can rip around clover leafs at pretty nutty speeds. *JUST ABOUT* as fast as I could these older Jap Coupe's I used to drive with heavily modded suspension. :eek:

For a practical 4 door DD, Id recommend that in a heart beat to anybody. So far put 20k kms on it since Oct of 2010, and I still just love it to bits.

http://stblogs.automobilemag.com/files/2008/08/10676151.jpeg
^ The interior. really comfy (yet sporty) full power seats, steering wheel stereo controls, and a pretty damn good factory stereo too.

Factory 18's too really help
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/3/web/2511000-2511999/2511796_1_full.jpg

http://api.cdmdata.m7z.net/ImageServer/d_4192/1G8ZV57718F145415-10.jpg

[msommers]

Specs seem pretty good actually. Only thing that worries me is Saturn reliability. Hope it works out well though.

[sneek]

Originally posted by happy tree
Im diggin my 540i right now. Good handling, decent power and all the comfort you will ever need. Love the heated steering wheel on those cold days. If it had awd it would be almost perfect.

My dad had an E39 540i. To this very day he misses it. Very sporty and quite nice to ride in. The interior as always with BMW was nothing impressive.

[mo_money2supe]

Originally posted by black13
Well realistically, power wise I mean something with at least 350hp.
And by luxury I mean really high end with stuff like heated and power seats in the front and back and all those really nice options.
S4, M3, C63, those cars have a good mix of both but at high costs.

They're a lot more affordable than people think... At least for a newer used model. I picked up my B7 S4, which has a good combination of both, for less than $20k. A number of them can be had for the low $20s and even less in the States too. So my vote goes for BOTH as a DD! :thumbsup:

[sillysod]

3 series, A4, and C class are not luxury cars IMO.

5 series, A6, E class and up are.

I would much rather drive an A8 than a S4.

[mo_money2supe]

Originally posted by sillysod
3 series, A4, and C class are not luxury cars IMO.

5 series, A6, E class and up are.

I would much rather drive an A8 than a S4.

:dunno: I never claimed my S4 was a luxury car, so I hope you're not directing that at me. I merely said that mine has a good combination of both speed and luxury. Honestly, my EG Civic is still faster on the 1/4 than the S4 is, but even then I don't consider it to be in the "speed" category.

[S4Andy]

Originally posted by sillysod
3 series, A4, and C class are not luxury cars IMO.

5 series, A6, E class and up are.

I would much rather drive an A8 than a S4.

8s are awesome but they are huge and I would say geared for older folk.

[texasnick]

Luxury......

the exhaust on my current DD st205 is starting to get annoying. That said it still has it's place, just not cruising at the speed limit down the highway while trying to talk to the gf.

Ideal DD for me right now would be an e39 m5. Best of both worlds.

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by msommers
Specs seem pretty good actually. Only thing that worries me is Saturn reliability. Hope it works out well though.

My last one was in my family since new, finally at 340,000 kms I decided it was time to move on. Great car, it never once broke down the whole time, and we shit beat it relentlessly. This one has been great, as is every claim I've ever read about it. :dunno:

The first years of Saturn (pre-95) were abysmal, but from 97 on they've been really good. The last years before GM axed them they were very high.

For all the newer ones you'd be hard pressed to find an unhappy owner. I love my Aura XR to bits, its just a wicked car.

[sillysod]

Originally posted by mo_money2supe


:dunno: I never claimed my S4 was a luxury car, so I hope you're not directing that at me. I merely said that mine has a good combination of both speed and luxury. Honestly, my EG Civic is still faster on the 1/4 than the S4 is, but even then I don't consider it to be in the "speed" category.

Not directed to you at all... I was using "S4" as the example because basically it's the nicest "A4" you can get.



Originally posted by S4Andy


8s are awesome but they are huge and I would say geared for older folk.

I'm in my early 30's now so I suppose I'm getting old. That being said for a daily driver that i'm going to cruise down the highway going 120km/h in and sit in traffic for hours I will take luxury over speed anyday.

Nowhere in this thread does it say your DD is your ONLY car. ;)

[moeman]

Love the Infiniti G37x sedan. 328 hp gets you going pretty quick, and it's comfortable as hell. The 4 wheel drive system works as promised but it's RWD 99% of the time so it's fun all year round with the proper tires. Picked up a local 2009 with 35k Hyatt serviced km's for $23,000, so good bang for the buck too.

[Cowtown_Raider]

Definitely would lean more towards luxury...with power. My choice would be a CTS-V. Tire-smoking fun, but a wicked smooth ride with those magnetic shocks :)

[zipdoa]

Originally posted by S4Andy


8s are awesome but they are huge and I would say geared for older folk.

A family member drives a D3 A8 L 4.2 right now... the fact that they're all aluminum really contribute to the sporting nature of the vehicle.

It doesn't feel like an S4, but it's a hell of a lot better than a comparable limousine sedan. Plus it does 0 - 100 in 5.8s and cost a measly $15k.

You don't do much better than that for something with adaptable air suspension, a/c cooled and heated seats, nav, 16-way adj seats.

[shakalaka]

I am loving my C350 at the moment a lot. It's quick enough for me and when I want a little more quick I put it in sport mode and drive it triptronic. And well for luxury, it's a Benz so can't go wrong there.

[Wannago]

Originally posted by Cowtown_Raider
Definitely would lean more towards luxury...with power. My choice would be a CTS-V. Tire-smoking fun, but a wicked smooth ride with those magnetic shocks :)

I'll second that!! :)

[K3RMiTdot]

^^ not too sure about a CTS-V, maybe the wagon ;) for a DD

[Murray Peterson]

Originally posted by black13
so does everyone eventually go for more luxury as they get older?

The exact opposite in my case.

[r3ccOs]

I actually think the push these days, outside of the norm of giagantic SUV's and half tons

is boomers hopping into either Hybrids or Smaller performance vehicles such as the 135

[max_boost]

I haven't sampled the other fine cars out there but I believe I have discovered automotive perfection (according to me). There is no substitute. :love:

[jonnycat]

I still vote for Charger. RWD or AWD

Awd front axle disconnect burnout
PnYAVrX8UV4

top speed run

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[Wannago]

Not bad....

This is in 5th gear, with ~500 RPM left to go plus 6th gear...(on closed course in Mexico, of course!)

http://members.shaw.ca/thomper/254.jpg

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

I have a bit of luxury and speed now, enough luxury I want more speed!

[Sentry]

Originally posted by Twin_Cam_Turbo
I have a bit of luxury and speed now, enough luxury I want more speed!
Amen!

I'm thinking Borg Warner S366, ditch the explody JDM twins.