New Viper?

[Godfuader]

Got an email from the NY International Auto Show




Here’s a shadowy glimpse of the 2013 SRT Viper. If you want to see more, you'll have to wait until April 6-15, where it will be on display at the 2012 New York International Auto Show.

http://gallery.mailchimp.com/ecc9344d98c8918c1d179f2c8/files/Viper2012.JPG

Didn't know the Viper was being resurrected! :clap:

[Ukyo8]

Looks exactly the same as the previous viper :rofl:

[Hallowed_point]

Yeah it does look very similar, but the Viper is one of the best looking cars of all time imo. They would be foolish to make radical changes, there is nothing on the road like one :drool:

[Godfuader]

Originally posted by Ukyo8
Looks exactly the same as the previous viper :rofl:
The logo changed!

Wait a minute....

http://www.cartype.com/pics/5239/full/dodge_viper_srt10_coupe_f_06.jpg
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/ecc9344d98c8918c1d179f2c8/files/Viper2012.JPG

[flipstah]

It looks the same but the insides are marginally better!

[kvg]

Looks slow and safe;)

[tobypaddock]

Originally posted by Hallowed_point
the Viper is one of the best looking cars of all time imo.

really? I don't even think its the best looking american cars of all time.



http://americanclassicars.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/1958ChevroletCorvette2.jpg:drool: :drool:

[95teetee]

^well, since you had to go back over 40 years to find what you think is a nicer looking car (good thing you didn't try to use a newer corvette lol), maybe you helped Hallowed make his point.

[Xtrema]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/02/snake-progression.jpeg

[CMW403]

Cool, really looking forward to this.

So obviously they've engineered a new V10?

[Cos]

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[speedog]

Some teasers here (http://www.worldcarfans.com/111102737723/2013-dodge-viper-to-feature-an-87-liter-v10---report) and here (http://www.worldcarfans.com/111081535704/2013-dodge-viper-coupe--roadster-spied-for-the-first-time).

Expected to be a 8.4l V10

[Maxx Mazda]

Economy be damned.

[CMW403]

Originally posted by Cos


My bet is they use the 6.4L. A V10 would be poor on gas which would cause issues with CAFE and they already have the 6.4 engineered which is no slouch at 470 hp and 470 lb-ft torque.


Edit: well that didnt take long to get dis-proven.

Yeah, myself as well as everyone else would be pretty disappointed with the srt8 in a viper. It needs 10.

EDIT: I want.

[Masked Bandit]

I've heard that the Viper will not be a Dodger per se but an SRT. I've read that Chrysler is going to run a "new" division called simply SRT which will have the traditional SRT models under it (Charger, Challenger, 300, Viper & Ram). Has anyone heard the same or otherwise?

[zipdoa]

This would be more interesting if they could acheive 100hp/L. They may as well just make it a 10L V10 and strap a set of truck nuts on the back.

[JustinMCS]

Love the new badge! Very well done and looks even more evil than the first two.

[Xtrema]

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1063832_dodge-charger-challenger-srt8-to-get-570-hp-supercharger-in-2012-exclusive

The v10 better get better numbers than the supercharged 8 coming for the srt8.

[racerjim]

Sounds like the new one is going to be an awesome car. With no less then the current 600Hp. Some are saying 700. But all the nannies added by the government will make it more user friendly for the average old lady to drive without killing herself.

[Toma]

Dodge is really fucking around. For their flagship Supercar Viper motors are huge piles of shit.

Powedered rods, hyper eutectic pistons with ring lands so thin and close to the crown, in road race 2008 plus, they break stock.

Junk.

The 2003 to 2007 cars even have a camshaft installed on a 120 plus or something intake centerline (its been a while, I think I measured it in at 124!?!?!?). Like what the fuck? lol. No wonder it takes 8.4 litres to make 400 whp. embarassing.

But it is a BAD ASS looking car. Second best looking American car ever :thumbsup: Ford GT-gt40 is number one IMO.

[94boosted]

Originally posted by 95teetee
[B (good thing you didn't try to use a newer corvette lol) [/B]

What's wrong with the newer ones

http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2012-chevrolet-corvette-zr1-review/full/#photo-4817943

I'd say that looks pretty freakin good

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by Toma
Dodge is really fucking around. For their flagship Supercar Viper motors are huge piles of shit.

Powedered rods, hyper eutectic pistons with ring lands so thin and close to the crown, in road race 2008 plus, they break stock.

Junk.

The 2003 to 2007 cars even have a camshaft installed on a 120 plus or something intake centerline (its been a while, I think I measured it in at 124!?!?!?). Like what the fuck? lol. No wonder it takes 8.4 litres to make 400 whp. embarassing.

Word, their engines have always been a big colossally heavy disappointment.
I've always had a good laugh at the 400hp figure... Pathetic. :banghead: ......and it takes an 8.4L V10 to produce that? oh... okay. :facepalm:

[98type_r]

Originally posted by Xtrema
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/02/snake-progression.jpeg

I'd have to say the original is still my fave.

[Toma]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M


Word, their engines have always been a big colossally heavy disappointment.
I've always had a good laugh at the 400hp figure... Pathetic. :banghead: ......and it takes an 8.4L V10 to produce that? oh... okay. :facepalm:

Good news is, I think a cartridge clean up of the stock heads, a set of springs, and a camshaft of my spec, I can make more power than the 2008+ cars. :dunno: SO maybe pretty easy.

I may try it with my car.

But the lazy stock cam does indeed LOVE nitrous. a 150 shot on a Viper can make well over 200 to the wheels! lol

[tobypaddock]

Originally posted by 95teetee
^well, since you had to go back over 40 years to find what you think is a nicer looking car (good thing you didn't try to use a newer corvette lol), maybe you helped Hallowed make his point.

nope, it was the first AMERICAN car that popped into my head that i thought was nicer. I could list off countless others that i think are nicer tho. To each their own, but i can't wrap my head around someone thinking the Viper one of the best looking automobiles of all time

[Toma]

Originally posted by tobypaddock


nope, it was the first AMERICAN car that popped into my head that i thought was nicer. I could list off countless others that i think are nicer tho. To each their own, but i can't wrap my head around someone thinking the Viper one of the best looking automobiles of all time

Weird, I think it DEFINITELY is. Viper or GT40. There is nothing even close.

The vette is pretty ugly to me. I preferred the Shelby/AC Cobra to the Vette any day of the week.

[Phuqu]

I love my Corvette.

I'd rather have 460hp out of an 8L than a 2L.



http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/DanDanLongDan/1999%20Dodge%20Viper%20ACR/DSC01299-1-1.jpg

[davidI]

Originally posted by Phuqu
I love my Corvette.

I'd rather have 460hp out of an 8L than a 2L.

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/DanDanLongDan/1999%20Dodge%20Viper%20ACR/DSC01299-1-1.jpg

Everything about this post confuses me!

[v2kai]

Originally posted by davidI


Everything about this post confuses me!

:rofl: inefficiency and confusion FTW!

[Phuqu]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d75/matpatte/403244_379924322018855_214841671860455_1606710_1063298872_n.jpg

[schocker]

Design outed by hotwheels like back with the 2011 mustang :rofl:
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/22/are-you-the-2013-srt-viper/
http://i.imgur.com/Dbybc.jpg
I think it looks pretty good, seems to be a bit if influence from Alfa Romeo which is neat. A higher res picture would also be nice

[davidI]

Originally posted by v2kai


:rofl: inefficiency and confusion FTW!

Says he loves his Corvette, posts picture of Viper.

Prefers inefficient engine.

:banghead:

I do get the idea of having the sound and torque curve of a high displacement engine....but why not get 500+ HP out of a 4 or 5L instead of an 8L?

[Graham_A_M]

^ I'd say there are few that wouldnt agree. For these insane ultra high hp builds a big block is necessary, but as some sluggish NA engine that has little design merits it's an uncalled for waste.
I'd go with an LS series sbc years before I would bother with this "gem" of a V10. 400hp/400tq bone stock NA 6.2l LS2, or a 400hp/400tq 8.4 v10; hmmm that a toughy :rolleyes:

[Toma]

Originally posted by davidI


Says he loves his Corvette, posts picture of Viper.

Prefers inefficient engine.

:banghead:

I do get the idea of having the sound and torque curve of a high displacement engine....but why not get 500+ HP out of a 4 or 5L instead of an 8L?

Fuck that. What it should have been is an 8.4 litre with 750hp. :thumbsup:

The new one should be 800hp, and a lot of Carbon and aluminum to bring the weight down under 3000

[davidI]

Originally posted by Toma


Fuck that. What it should have been is an 8.4 litre with 750hp. :thumbsup:

The new one should be 800hp, and a lot of Carbon and aluminum to bring the weight down under 3000

As awesome as that would be, all those sexy Viper bodies would be wrapped around trees in no time. If they released an SRT version like that, giving the owners an option of high vs. crazy high HP, that would be sweet!

[JZS_147]

Originally posted by Toma
Dodge is really fucking around. For their flagship Supercar Viper motors are huge piles of shit.

Powedered rods, hyper eutectic pistons with ring lands so thin and close to the crown, in road race 2008 plus, they break stock.

Junk.

The 2003 to 2007 cars even have a camshaft installed on a 120 plus or something intake centerline (its been a while, I think I measured it in at 124!?!?!?). Like what the fuck? lol. No wonder it takes 8.4 litres to make 400 whp. embarassing.

But it is a BAD ASS looking car. Second best looking American car ever :thumbsup: Ford GT-gt40 is number one IMO.


The 4th gen cars have AMAZING engines. We did a lot of the Striker heads in the past and the heads in the 4th gen heads look waaaay nicer than the Strikers.

They've been pulling their shit together, so I'm hoping the new gen is better than the garbage they've put out before.

[JZS_147]

Originally posted by Phuqu
I love my Corvette.

I'd rather have 460hp out of an 8L than a 2L.



http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg95/DanDanLongDan/1999%20Dodge%20Viper%20ACR/DSC01299-1-1.jpg


I best be tuning this one soon :poosie:

[94boosted]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M
I'd go with an LS series sbc years before I would bother with this "gem" of a V10. 400hp/400tq bone stock NA 6.2l LS2, or a 400hp/400tq 8.4 v10; hmmm that a toughy :rolleyes:

LS2 = 6.0L 400HP/400TQ
LS3 = 6.2L 430HP/425TQ

[Graham_A_M]

^ Yeah kind of biased, as I have the LS2 & T56 out of a 2006 GTO.. in my '38 half ton. :dunno:

I never checked into the LS3 since (thanks to the Corvette) it never had an engine mounted manual tranny to my knowledge.

[Darell_n]

Originally posted by Phuqu

I'd rather have 460hp out of an 8L than a 2L.

These cars can lay down 400 ft-lbs below 2000 rpm and the torque only goes up from there. Big block, yes please.

[510-Trevor]

Originally posted by 94boosted
LS2 = 6.0L 400HP/400TQ
LS3 = 6.2L 430HP/425TQ
LS2 = 6.0L 400HP/400TQ = 66.6HP per L
LS3 = 6.2L 430HP/425TQ = 69.4HP per L
SRT10 = 8.4L 600HP/560TQ = 71.4HP per L

YA, SBC FTWaaaa :cry:

[JZS_147]

Originally posted by Darell_n


These cars can lay down 400 ft-lbs below 2000 rpm and the torque only goes up from there. Big block, yes please.

Torque? What's that :dunno:

[94boosted]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M
^ Yeah kind of biased, as I have the LS2 & T56 out of a 2006 GTO.. in my '38 half ton. :dunno:

I never checked into the LS3 since (thanks to the Corvette) it never had an engine mounted manual tranny to my knowledge.

That sounds like a nice setu :thumbsup:

Don't the new Camaro SS's run an LS3 with an engine mounted manual tranny? Or do the Camaro's have a torque tube?

[94boosted]

Originally posted by 510-Trevor

LS2 = 6.0L 400HP/400TQ = 66.6HP per L
LS3 = 6.2L 430HP/425TQ = 69.4HP per L
SRT10 = 8.4L 600HP/560TQ = 71.4HP per L



Z06 LS7 = 7.0L 505HP/470TQ = 72.14HP per L :D

[Phuqu]

Originally posted by 94boosted


Z06 LS7 = 7.0L 505HP/470TQ = 72.14HP per L :D


http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/thumb/132505226769s.jpg

2010 Viper ACR-X 8.4L 640HP/605TQ 76.19HP per L

[510-Trevor]

Originally posted by 94boosted


Z06 LS7 = 7.0L 505HP/470TQ = 72.14HP per L :D
touche` :(


Originally posted by Phuqu



http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/thumb/132505226769s.jpg

2010 Viper ACR-X 8.4L 640HP/605TQ 76.19HP per L

Nice.

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by 94boosted


That sounds like a nice setu :thumbsup:

Don't the new Camaro SS's run an LS3 with an engine mounted manual tranny? Or do the Camaro's have a torque tube?

Thanks
I never checked as it would be a small fortune for that setup on eBay (considering how new it is and what it is), which is how I bought mine; from a crashed gto.
$6200 for a FI turnkey LS2 with a 6 speed tranny that can handle 700hp/TQ? Count me in :)

[94boosted]

Originally posted by Phuqu



2010 Viper ACR-X 8.4L 640HP/605TQ 76.19HP per L

Oh come on that's not a street legal car lol. Lets throw a wrench into this Dodge v Chevy battle

Boss 302 5.0L 444HP/380TQ 88.8HP per L :dunno:


Originally posted by Graham_A_M


Thanks
I never checked as it would be a small fortune for that setup on eBay (considering how new it is and what it is), which is how I bought mine; from a crashed gto.
$6200 for a FI turnkey LS2 with a 6 speed tranny that can handle 700hp/TQ? Count me in :)

That's a pretty sweet deal and like you say lots of room for big power

[Phuqu]

Originally posted by 94boosted




Boss 302 5.0L 444HP/380TQ 88.8HP per L :dunno:






http://www.icepromo.com/mediac/400_0/media/droptop.gif

[Toma]

Originally posted by 94boosted


Z06 LS7 = 7.0L 505HP/470TQ = 72.14HP per L :D
Here is the funny part...

A LS7 Z06 (505hp) will put significantly MORE to the wheels than '03-07 (500hp) Viper :dunno:

[Hallowed_point]

Originally posted by Phuqu



http://www.icepromo.com/mediac/400_0/media/droptop.gif


:rofl: Whenever I see a mustang vert, this song always comes to mind

[Phuqu]

Originally posted by Toma



A LS7 Z06 (505hp) will put significantly MORE to the wheels than '03-07 (500hp) Viper :dunno:

That's because the Viper doesn't have traction control.

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/profiles/icons/big/000/082/632/gif-trollface-dancing.gif

[JZS_147]

Originally posted by 510-Trevor

LS2 = 6.0L 400HP/400TQ = 66.6HP per L
LS3 = 6.2L 430HP/425TQ = 69.4HP per L
SRT10 = 8.4L 600HP/560TQ = 71.4HP per L



My 2JZ = 3.0L 500WHP/400TQ (@13psi) = 166.6 WHP per L


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7183/6780946136_87658fd1a1.jpg

[Darell_n]

Just for shits and giggles, my Traxxas Jato is around 600 hp/L naturally aspirated. Nitro-methane for street use.

[Graham_A_M]

Originally posted by JZS_147



My 2JZ = 3.0L 500WHP/400TQ (@13psi) = 166.6 WHP per L


lol... try taking the turbo's off then we'll talk. So far there has been all of no mention of Forced induction. Try running those PSI figures with any of these engines mentioned thus far in this thread and you'll see some pretty insane figures. ;)

[speedog]

More teasers here (http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/23/is-this-the-2013-srt-vipers-new-nose-and-hood/) and here (http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2013-srt-viper-spy-shots/#photo-4838152/).

[Hallowed_point]

Nice!! It looks like they are freshening up the front end a bit while still maintaining the basic styling. the spy pictures are awesome :rofl: :rofl:

[94boosted]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M


lol... try taking the turbo's off then we'll talk. So far there has been all of no mention of Forced induction. Try running those PSI figures with any of these engines mentioned thus far in this thread and you'll see some pretty insane figures. ;)

:werd:

[speedog]

Originally posted by Hallowed_point
Nice!! It looks like they are freshening up the front end a bit while still maintaining the basic styling. the spy pictures are awesome :rofl: :rofl: Believe the back end and doors on all of the spy shots are from the current model - could still be some interesting changes in those areas as well.

[90_Shelby]

Originally posted by Phuqu



http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/thumb/132505226769s.jpg

2010 Viper ACR-X 8.4L 640HP/605TQ 76.19HP per L



ZR1 LS9 6.2L 638HP/604TQ 102.9HP per L :closed:

[slowboy]

Originally posted by 90_Shelby




ZR1 LS9 6.2L 638HP/604TQ 102.9HP per L :closed:

Too bad LS9 uses forced induction.

[Phuqu]

Originally posted by 90_Shelby




ZR1 LS9 6.2L 638HP/604TQ 102.9HP per L :closed:






http://pinkie.ponychan.net/chan/files/thumb/132505226769s.jpg



http://image.motortrend.com/f/car-news/first-official-images-of-corvette-zr1s-ls9-engine/7371687+w700+cr1+re0+ar1/chevrolet-corvette-ls9-engine-intercooler-and-supercharger.jpg


http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/1008/one-of-these-things-is-not-like-the-other-demotivational-poster-1281770049.jpg

[JZS_147]

Originally posted by Graham_A_M


lol... try taking the turbo's off then we'll talk. So far there has been all of no mention of Forced induction. Try running those PSI figures with any of these engines mentioned thus far in this thread and you'll see some pretty insane figures. ;)


run those psi figures with any of the engines mentioned thus far in this thread and you'll see some broken ringlands ;)

[Toma]

Originally posted by JZS_147



run those psi figures with any of the engines mentioned thus far in this thread and you'll see some broken ringlands ;)
lol.... Coyote 5.0 ... No problem!

LSx.... with care.

[Eleanor]

My CBR makes ~105hp from 0.599L giving it ~175.3hp/L :drama:

I'd still take a Viper any day of the week.

[90_Shelby]

Originally posted by slowboy


Too bad LS9 uses forced induction.

:facepalm: oops!