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heavyfuel
03-18-2012, 07:49 PM
Saw this masterpiece at Sunshine this morning... http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/rr150/2500calgary/Darwin2.jpg

Thaco
03-18-2012, 07:57 PM
what's the problem?

Twin_Cam_Turbo
03-18-2012, 08:01 PM
Seems fine to me...

Oryx
03-18-2012, 08:06 PM
How else do you suppose he gonna fit a sled in a ridgeline....?

TomcoPDR
03-18-2012, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Thaco
what's the problem?



Originally posted by Twin_Cam_Turbo
Seems fine to me...



Originally posted by Oryx
How else do you suppose he gonna fit a sled in a ridgeline....?


:werd: It's not like the truck can't take that kinda weight.

4DoorGTZ
03-18-2012, 08:27 PM
Probably no light or red flag hanging off the back. We get tickets when there is no flag on the back of our skidoos and they only hang 1ft off the back of the survey trucks.

Kloubek
03-18-2012, 08:30 PM
I do question whether that is truly secured properly. I know it looks like there is a support coming from his hitch - but that's a really long distance to support.

zarge
03-18-2012, 08:32 PM
lol i find it funny buy a real truck if you're gonna put a sled it in :rofl:

Thaco
03-18-2012, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by zarge
lol i find it funny buy a real truck if you're gonna put a sled it in lol yeah, because an avalanche is a "real truck" right?

zarge
03-18-2012, 08:37 PM
Yes because we're comparing my old truck to this truck.. and the fact that I don't even own a sled?? :facepalm: Keep sniffin glue! Nothing wrong with a ridgeline, just retarded to put a sled in the back of one.

Cos
03-18-2012, 08:41 PM
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Euro_Trash
03-18-2012, 08:42 PM
The majority of the weight is in the bed - nothing to see here, carry on

Hallowed_point
03-18-2012, 08:46 PM
I sure as hell wouldn't be comfortable driving behind this guy :eek: I can just picture it flying out!! You gotta wonder why people buy light duty trucks and just go nuts trying to haul stuff :nut:

Thaco
03-18-2012, 08:52 PM
you guys are funny, that sled is like 500 lbs... no different than a couple fatties in the back seat..., all of the weight is above the rear tires... it's really a non-issue

dirtsniffer
03-18-2012, 09:00 PM
haha ya, atleast it's only one sled

zarge
03-18-2012, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Thaco
you guys are funny, that sled is like 500 lbs... no different than a couple fatties in the back seat..., all of the weight is above the rear tires... it's really a non-issue

Is it yours?? lol

heavyD
03-18-2012, 09:16 PM
That can't be legal.

ddduke
03-18-2012, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Thaco
yeah, because an avalanche is a "real truck" right?

An avalanche is more of a real truck then this.

1. it's a half ton
2. has a v8
3. the box on an avalanche is bigger then a ridgeline, it also folds down into the back seats which gives you and extra 2.5 feet.

We had an avalanche as one of our work trucks last year and the thing was surprisingly useful.

firebane
03-18-2012, 11:14 PM
Few issues.

1) That plywood looks like 1/2"
2) The support underneath only has 1 main support and it like the plywood looks bent.

Sure the sled may only weight 500lbs but factor in when its bouncing up and down from the bumps in the road and such.

Guy is crazy!

Sugarphreak
03-18-2012, 11:31 PM
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speedog
03-19-2012, 07:04 AM
Originally posted by heavyD
That can't be legal. Probably is legal and only needs to be flagged or have a red lamp is extending more than 1.5 meters beyond the rear of the vehicle (section 16 (http://www.qp.alberta.ca/574.cfm?page=2009_122.cfm&leg_type=Regs&isbncln=9780779741847) of Alberta's vehicle equipment regulations) - still looks way to ghetto for me.

speedog
03-19-2012, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by ddduke
An avalanche is more of a real truck then this.

1. it's a half ton
2. has a v8
3. the box on an avalanche is bigger then a ridgeline, it also folds down into the back seats which gives you and extra 2.5 feet.

We had an avalanche as one of our work trucks last year and the thing was surprisingly useful. Yupp, here we go - a real truck has to have a V8.

Darell_n
03-19-2012, 07:31 AM
Many Avalanches are 2500 models. That's what makes them a real truck.

SKR
03-19-2012, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by speedog
Yupp, here we go - a real truck has to have a V8.

Not necessarily. A lot of real trucks come with 6 cylinders. But they're inline, not v's, and they don't come with spark plugs.

heavyfuel
03-19-2012, 08:35 AM
Originally posted by SKR


Not necessarily. A lot of real trucks come with 6 cylinders. But they're inline, not v's, and they don't come with spark plugs.

Amen. Haha

Xtrema
03-19-2012, 09:01 AM
Only way to get 50/50 balance on a Honda?

KRyn
03-19-2012, 09:19 AM
This guy doesn't have anything on homeboy in the following link...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2116719/How-penalty-points-Chinese-driver-stopped-police-stacking-increasingly-smaller-trucks-other.html

lilmira
03-19-2012, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by KRyn
This guy doesn't have anything on homeboy in the following link...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2116719/How-penalty-points-Chinese-driver-stopped-police-stacking-increasingly-smaller-trucks-other.html

Now that's carpooling.

Cos
03-19-2012, 09:52 AM
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craigcd
03-23-2012, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by Darell_n
Many Avalanches are 2500 models. That's what makes them a real truck.

No they arent.

TomcoPDR
03-23-2012, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Darell_n
Many Avalanches are 2500 models. That's what makes them a real truck.



Originally posted by craigcd


No they arent.


QFT, 2500 are the rare models

sr20s14zenki
03-23-2012, 09:03 PM
Looks like one hell of a cantilever. Altho there isn't much weight there, it multiplies over the distance of the cantilever. Would have used a thicker plywood. Looks like the hss is already flexing..

I'm sure it's fine, ive done sketchier.

craigcd
03-23-2012, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by TomcoPDR






QFT, 2500 are the rare models

:thumbsup:

ddduke
03-23-2012, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by speedog
Yupp, here we go - a real truck has to have a V8.

I didn't say it needs a v8 to be a real truck. I just listed a few reasons why an Avalanche is MORE of a real truck then a ridgeline. Typical douchebag trying to twist my words.

quarter ton v6 VS. half ton v8, hmmmmm I wonder which is more of a truck.

Abeo
03-23-2012, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by ddduke


quarter ton v6 VS. half ton v8, hmmmmm I wonder which is more of a truck.

The one that actually hauls things is more of a truck. 4 cyl, v6, v8, v10, doesn't matter if you treat it like a princess.

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/4/415/2061/38536030001_large.jpg
This has a payload of 2200 lbs, thats more than a ton. And its unibody I6, so I guess its not much a truck? :rolleyes:

ddduke
03-24-2012, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Abeo

This has a payload of 2200 lbs, thats more than a ton. And its unibody I6, so I guess its not much a truck? :rolleyes:

To me it really isn't. I can't load down the box, hitch up a 16 foot trailer and go to work (safely anyways).

There's always going to be the exception to the rule and while this is more of a truck then may other quarter tons, MOST quarter tons are still not real trucks and are pretty much useless. Especially the ridgeline. Atleast rangers and dakotas have a normal box on them. When you need to flag an 8ft 2x4 then you're not driving a real truck, this goes for half tons too.

syritis
03-24-2012, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by speedog
Probably is legal and only needs to be flagged or have a red lamp is extending more than 1.5 meters beyond the rear of the vehicle (section 16 (http://www.qp.alberta.ca/574.cfm?page=2009_122.cfm&leg_type=Regs&isbncln=9780779741847) of Alberta's vehicle equipment regulations) - still looks way to ghetto for me.

bingo. as well the total weight of the tongue load does not exceed 500lbs.

PS a truck has a solid rear axle and a longitudinally-mounted engine. check mate ridgeline.

HuMz
03-24-2012, 05:01 AM
Don't see an issue, all the weight of the sled is in the front which is fully in the box. The rear ends of most sleds are very light (you can usually pick them up)

SoSlowDx
03-24-2012, 07:49 AM
I personally wouldn't do that! The ridgeline is an "urban truck" and yes, I own one. :D

AndyL
03-24-2012, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by Abeo

This has a payload of 2200 lbs, thats more than a ton. And its unibody I6, so I guess its not much a truck? :rolleyes:

I'm story but the max gvwr of the Comanche is 4616lbs, with a curb weight of 3141. So at best you could tow/carry is 1475lbs, if you ever put 2200lbs in the bed - it would fail like a ridgeline and end up with a spotted thread.

Supa Dexta
03-24-2012, 09:10 AM
Yeah it looks bad, and I'm not a fan - But as mentioned its really not that bad.. There is NO weight in the rear end of these mountain sleds these days, so all of the weight is over the axles of the 'truck'.. It probably handles better having some weight over the wheels.. Are those things capable of 4x2 or are they awd?

Plus, small trailers a PITA.

speedog
03-24-2012, 09:35 AM
Still ghetto.

Abeo
03-24-2012, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by AndyL


I'm story but the max gvwr of the Comanche is 4616lbs, with a curb weight of 3141. So at best you could tow/carry is 1475lbs, if you ever put 2200lbs in the bed - it would fail like a ridgeline and end up with a spotted thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Comanche


There was also a heavy duty "Big Ton" package (known as the "Metric Ton" package outside the U.S.) for the long-bed models. The package included heavier-duty leaf springs and wheels, larger tires and an upgraded rear axle to a Dana 44 instead of a Dana 35, which increased the stock payload (cargo) capacity from 1,400 to 2,205 pounds (640 to 1,000 kg), well above that of any other truck similar to the Comanche's size. The Metric Ton Comanche's payload rating was higher than that of many larger pickups.

speedog
03-24-2012, 09:59 AM
This thread is so retarded - my 1980 El Camino was last registered as a truck even though I know it is no where near being what most would consider a truck including myself. But it has hauled some very truck-like loads including motorbikes, dirt, furniture, junk to the landfill - I guess what defines a truck is all in the eyes of the beholder, my El Camino certainly is not a truck to me but it probably has done way more truck-like things than most of the trucks I see running around Calgary.

AndyL
03-24-2012, 10:18 AM
The Comanche you posted is not a metric ton variant, they were sold as cab and chassis units, and are not commonly found...

Abeo
03-24-2012, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by AndyL
The Comanche you posted is not a metric ton variant, they were sold as cab and chassis units, and are not commonly found...

http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2283/12277348/22466520/380015116.jpg

Seriously, for a off road guy, you should know this stuff.

Unknown303
03-24-2012, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Abeo


http://pic90.picturetrail.com/VOL2283/12277348/22466520/380015116.jpg

Seriously, for a off road guy, you should know this stuff.

Seriously you're bitching about that? You picked a rare breed of an old and dead Jeep truck to solidify your argument. Probably one of the rarest mini trucks to boot. And in your original statement you just sayed Comanche, which in virtually everyones eyes in going to be the standard Comanche, not the Metric Ton monster.

Ymerej472008
03-24-2012, 10:58 AM
Originally posted by sr20s14zenki
Would have used a thicker plywood. Looks like the hss is already flexing...

:werd: I would have strong backed the HSS with 2 or 3" flat bar.

Abeo
03-24-2012, 11:02 AM
Originally posted by Unknown303


Seriously you're bitching about that? You picked a rare breed of an old and dead Jeep truck to solidify your argument. Probably one of the rarest mini trucks to boot. And in your original statement you just sayed Comanche, which in virtually everyones eyes in going to be the standard Comanche, not the Metric Ton monster.

I said this (http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3853603/1987-jeep-comanche-regular-cab) has a payload of 2200 lbs. Click the link.

Its not like I picked the dually ranger or toyota 1 ton mini as an example, comanches are not that rare.

J-hop
03-25-2012, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by Sugarphreak
From a structural perspective it actually doesn't look all that bad. Plywood thickness is not an issue because the track is dispersing the load more evenly.

Biggest issue I see is the hitch is probably not rated for the tongue weight being exerted on it (thanks to the length of the lever which multiplies the force) and may eventually fail do to fatigue. Also there should be some better tied downs vertically on the front of the sled; if something were to fail the only thing keeping that sled in there would be if tie downs were able to prevent it from rotating backwards and out.

All in all I've seen much worse on almost a daily basis

Yea the tongue weight is my biggest concern as well, with a class 3 hitch I think the ridge line is around 5-600lb max tongue weight given the distance from the hitch that contraption extends I would agree you may cause it to fail down the road.

I guess my question is why someone with enough money for a ridge line and a fun toy like a sled doesn't go out and buy a truck built for his purpose or as mentioned a cheap trailer to tow it (I'm sure 1000$ would get you a decent trailer to haul one sled.

I wonder how he gets it down?? If he uses ramps that would be sketchy as he'd put the whole weight of the sled on end of that sheet causing an extremely high force on his hitch when you account for the lever arm. Maybe he just removes the bar and drops the sheet down with the sled on it to create sort of a ramp? Either way it looks sketchy!