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ZenOps
05-31-2012, 07:54 AM
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-nyc-sugary-drinks-ban,0,2020486.story

"His proposal would ban any the sale of any sugary beverage over 16 ounces in any of the city's restaurants, delis, movie theaters or even street carts, according to reports from New York.

Sales of sweetened drinks larger than 16 ounces would still be permitted in supermarkets and convenience stores"

Supa Dexta
05-31-2012, 08:04 AM
Opie and anthony were shooting off about this earlier.. .You can't watch ufc live and you cant drink a big soda, way to protect the people NY

arian_ma
05-31-2012, 10:15 AM
They can't watch UFC live? Really?

It seems a bit silly to ban pop, I mean grown adults should be able to make their own decisions. Looking at it from a different perspective though, some people drink so much god damn pop...it's ridiculous. That stuff is so horrible for the body in every imaginable way.

FraserB
05-31-2012, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by arian_ma
They can't watch UFC live? Really?

It seems a bit silly to ban pop, I mean grown adults should be able to make their own decisions. Looking at it from a different perspective though, some people drink so much god damn pop...it's ridiculous. That stuff is so horrible for the body in every imaginable way.

I agree with the health perspective 100%, when I stopped drinking pop all together, the result was ridiculous. That and diabetes and obesity are huge costs to the health industry, why should other people be paying for your crappy decision making abilities.

Type_S1
05-31-2012, 10:20 AM
This will just cause places to lower the cup sizes and give refills?

CapnCrunch
05-31-2012, 10:26 AM
Awesome. Now people will run around drinking 1 liter fruit juice thinking that its healthy.

98type_r
05-31-2012, 10:28 AM
isn't a 16oz cup considered a small at some American fast food chains?

Toma
05-31-2012, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by 98type_r
isn't a 16oz cup considered a small at some American fast food chains?
LOL, word! I forget where I wasin the US but at a Mcdonalds, I ordered a "supersized" meal, and their large musta been twice as big as ours lol.

As for UFC.... took forever to make that shit legal in the first place. Remember when they had to fight on Indian reservations etc??

-relk-
05-31-2012, 10:47 AM
Banning large sodas will not help the obesity problem... :facepalm:

If you want to make a serious stab at the obesity problem, set up mandatory information sessions on nutrition, ban bad fast food restaurants (McDonalds, BurgerKing, etc..), and force mandatory work out sessions for those that are obese.

The above will never happen in a million years, but passing a law like this and passing it off as "help the obesity problem" is ridiculous. If people want to be fat slobs and drink huge pops all day, while eating McDonalds and Wendys, they will. Reducing the amount they can drink at one time will only make them buy, or get free, refills :facepalm:

Dumb law is dumb.

Zephyr
05-31-2012, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by CapnCrunch
Awesome. Now people will run around drinking 1 liter fruit juice thinking that its healthy.

"But it's got 5% REAL fruit juice in it!"

These laws are dumb, instead of solving the real problem, such as corn syrup, they just limit consumer choices.

Spoons
05-31-2012, 11:15 AM
Yet smoking is fine and dandy...........

codetrap
05-31-2012, 11:18 AM
Originally posted by Zephyr


"But it's got 5% REAL fruit juice in it!"

These laws are dumb, instead of solving the real problem, such as corn syrup, they just limit consumer choices. The real problem is they're trying to legislate stupid.

Tomaz
05-31-2012, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Spoons
Yet smoking is fine and dandy...........

It's funny you mention this. If there was a law banning the production/distribution of tobacco products, I would be happy!

And this coming from a pack-and-a-half per day smoker!

Neil4Speed
05-31-2012, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by FraserB


I agree with the health perspective 100%, when I stopped drinking pop all together, the result was ridiculous.

What was the result? Did you lose allot of weight? etc


Originally posted by CapnCrunch
Awesome. Now people will run around drinking 1 liter fruit juice thinking that its healthy.

Totally, people don't understand that fruit juices have sugar as well.

Toma
05-31-2012, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by Spoons
Yet smoking is fine and dandy...........

Sort of. PC's wanna sue Tobacco for $10billion, when they make MORE IN TAXES than Tobacco in sales profits off each pack.

So, the Province (er, or is that Pimps) should sue themselves.

FraserB
05-31-2012, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by Neil4Speed


What was the result? Did you lose allot of weight? etc


I haven't had a soft drink since April 1 this year, using the nutritional info from the side of a Coke can, I reduced my caloric intake by ~600 calories a day and 180g of sugar. With going to the gym, lost almost 20lbs since. Easier to get to sleep, don't feel tired for the whole first half of the day.

Feruk
05-31-2012, 12:55 PM
I don't think this change will have any effect on anything really. Why do they not simply impose a "fat tax" on pop, fast food, and things of it's type. I've noticed most of the fatties look like they belong to the "poorer classes" of society. Just an observation, not trying to say it's fact here. If you make fast food more expensive, maybe them poorer fatties will be forced to spend money on cheaper healthier alternatives. If we do it to tobacco and booze, why not junk food?

arian_ma
05-31-2012, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by Feruk
I don't think this change will have any effect on anything really. Why do they not simply impose a "fat tax" on pop, fast food, and things of it's type. I've noticed most of the fatties look like they belong to the "poorer classes" of society. Just an observation, not trying to say it's fact here. If you make fast food more expensive, maybe them poorer fatties will be forced to spend money on cheaper healthier alternatives. If we do it to tobacco and booze, why not junk food?
Exactly. Tax shitty food, use tax money to subsidize healthy food.

Xtrema
05-31-2012, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by arian_ma

Exactly. Tax shitty food, use tax money to subsidize healthy food.

That's socialism

- Fox News.


BTW NY fast food joints already list calories on menu, not that anyone cares.

Zephyr
05-31-2012, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Xtrema


That's socialism

- Fox News.


BTW NY fast food joints already list calories on menu, not that anyone cares.

Too long, didn't read.

raceman6135
05-31-2012, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by FraserB


I haven't had a soft drink since April 1 this year, using the nutritional info from the side of a Coke can, I reduced my caloric intake by ~600 calories a day and 180g of sugar. With going to the gym, lost almost 20lbs since.

Congrats! I'm currently getting the pop and sugar monkeys off my back, too.

Wish I hadn't waited until I reached my mid-40's, though ... it was so much easier to lose weight in my 20's and even 30's.

As for the law, it's completely stupid. Do they not think that people will just buy 2 or 3 smaller drinks now?

FraserB
05-31-2012, 04:30 PM
The first week or two is the worst, no I have absolutely no desire for a soft drink. I started to drink a coke the other day but just tasted like syrup and sugar so I'm pretty done with them.

kvg
05-31-2012, 04:51 PM
I was in Florida in January and it blew my mind how many obese people there was. There was unbelievable amounts of people using motor scooters and many of them had huge cups of pop that looked like a 2l bottle with the top cut off in hand or in the front basket. They have a huge problem down there.

Tik-Tok
05-31-2012, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by kvg
I was in Florida in January and it blew my mind how many obese people there was. There was unbelievable amounts of people using motor scooters and many of them had huge cups of pop that looked like a 2l bottle with the top cut off in hand or in the front basket. They have a huge problem down there.

Did you go into a walmart? Fuck I couldn't stop laughing. Big 'ol 400 lb'er had no less than 20- 2L bottles of cola in his shopping cart, and the Walmart cashier new him by name :nut:

kvg
05-31-2012, 05:05 PM
I didn't go there, but right when I got to Florida and I was on the way to the hotel I saw a 300lb+ guy pushing a 300lb+ woman in a wheel chair down the shoulder of the highway, and she was holding a massive cup of pop in her hand:eek:. It was just the beginning of these sightings:nut:

Supa Dexta
05-31-2012, 08:31 PM
Same as fast food burgers.. The odd time I'll get a craving and half thru it I feel gross. Once you stay off them for a while, you don't miss them.

Mar
05-31-2012, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by kvg
I was in Florida in January and it blew my mind how many obese people there was. There was unbelievable amounts of people using motor scooters and many of them had huge cups of pop that looked like a 2l bottle with the top cut off in hand or in the front basket. They have a huge problem down there.
Atlanta is way worse, I went to Wal-Mart there and would walk by the end of the aisles looking for one without a huge person in it that I might be able to fit down....... nope........ nope........ nope.........

It's pretty odd they want to ban 16 ounce cups though, that's not that big. It's the size of a grande at Starbucks. And since their flavouring has sugar in it, does that mean the end of ventis?

Godfuader
05-31-2012, 11:44 PM
Although this wont be a miracle solver of obesity, I welcome this. The sight of little kids each having a McD's $1 32oz Sweet Tea is disgusting. These kids are fat, and this 69g of sugar juice is a must have. :barf:

jdmXSI
05-31-2012, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Tik-Tok


Did you go into a walmart? Fuck I couldn't stop laughing. Big 'ol 400 lb'er had no less than 20- 2L bottles of cola in his shopping cart, and the Walmart cashier new him by name :nut:

Lol this the first thing I thought of...

http://childrenshospitalblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/wall-e.jpg

HomespunLobster
05-31-2012, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Feruk
I don't think this change will have any effect on anything really. Why do they not simply impose a "fat tax" on pop, fast food, and things of it's type. I've noticed most of the fatties look like they belong to the "poorer classes" of society. Just an observation, not trying to say it's fact here. If you make fast food more expensive, maybe them poorer fatties will be forced to spend money on cheaper healthier alternatives. If we do it to tobacco and booze, why not junk food?
I agree. The shitty part is unhealthy food is generally cheaper then healthy.

I can buy 4L of pop for $2. I can buy 4L of milk for $3.50+ and 4L of juice for $4+ (Non concentrate/make my own)

You can tax the shit out of it, but it would have to be the point of being more expensive then healthy food.

ZenOps
09-13-2012, 09:59 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/14/nyregion/health-board-approves-bloombergs-soda-ban.html

And it passes. No more drink for you.

Next up, banning salty pork.

Modelexis
09-13-2012, 10:09 AM
The measure, unless blocked by a judge, will take effect in six months.

lilmira
09-13-2012, 10:40 AM
Funny things, I heard that Coca Cola was recently officially introduced to North Korea. On the other side of the globe right in the centre of the free world is banning big sugary drinks, strange world that we live in nowadays.

rx7boi
09-14-2012, 06:31 AM
Just buy three 15oz cups and you're back where you started.

ZenOps
09-14-2012, 08:12 AM
Originally posted by rx7boi
Just buy three 15oz cups and you're back where you started.

I'm pretty sure its like a 16 oz cup size and limit per person per purchase (per visit). One person in car means one cup.

Won't happen. People in the US are too lazy to make the second trip, far too much effort to swing the arms and put the foot on the gaspedal.

Its why Mcdonalds instituted a free refill policy - they know that if you come to the counter a second time you are much more likely to buy another order of fries and get your "free" drink. Starbucks also has a free refill policy as long as you stay in the store.

http://www.starbucks.ca/card/rewards

Its all about getting mouths to the counter as many times as possible.

Sugarphreak
09-17-2012, 03:54 AM
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clem24
09-17-2012, 11:09 AM
If anything I feel this might just enrich the fast food places even more. If you think about it, a family can no longer buy a large drink to share, and every kid will just get his own. As pointed out also, I can't see how fruit juices aren't included. Makes no sense. This is China-style politics - 10 guys get together in a room and come up with some "wonderful" ideas that they'll legislate before they leave without giving it a second thought. Oh until 5 years down they road when they realized they've just created a heap of other problems.