SLO SVO - Turbo 80s Ford Daily Driver aka What could go wrong?

[Sentry]

Needed something 4cyl and not 4000 pounds and with a manual transmission. The Aristo costs me about 20 bucks a day to drive to work. :)

Got this from Graham Auctions today. Took it home tonight, washed it, and started screwing with it right away. :rofl:

http://i.imgur.com/YMGOg.jpg

Roomates Skyline and 1.7EL, and my Aristo in the background.

http://i.imgur.com/0ohuu.jpg

Steering wheel leather is torn, rest of the interior is nice.

http://i.imgur.com/wTV7k.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8ahdu.jpg

First thing I did when I got it home was crank the Koni adjustables to full stiffness, rip out the stock airbox and stick a filter on it, and fix a boost leak.

http://i.imgur.com/zGCcY.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/U4gqu.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BwBuV.jpg

Nice just having random filters and couplers from builds past. :D

Probably just gonna crank the boost up to 16-17ish psi, lower it, get better pads, etc. Basic shit to make it more fun to drive.

[redsrt4]

same car
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1984-Ford-Mustang-SVO-Hatchback-W0QQAdIdZ383234572

[corsvette]

looks to be in very good shape for its age. I've allways liked those cars and there is a ton of potential in that engine.

[ianmcc]

I saw that car and was tempted. That is a good price for that car-most start at $4000.
And one of the first mods for the 2.3 (besides getting rid of the silly air cleaner) is a manual boost controller.

[sillysod]

Sentry, there is a guy on performance-shop.com that is a SVO mustang guru, if you are going to plan on modding yours talk to him.

He is super friendly and will be able to point you in the right direction (even though sounds like you are already on the way). There are a few guys running 12's & 11's and they don't have a lot of $$ in their cars.

Here is one of the stickies in the Turbo 2.3 area.

Clicky Click (http://www.performance-shop.com/showthread.php?t=22406)

Enjoy, they are awesome cars.

[Modelexis]

^ He bought the car in order to not use so much gas driving to work, I don't think his goal in buying it was to make it run 12's. :D

[sillysod]

^^^ shoulda bought an Accent then.... he's fucked now! :rofl:

[Sentry]

Originally posted by ianmcc
I saw that car and was tempted. That is a good price for that car-most start at $4000.
And one of the first mods for the 2.3 (besides getting rid of the silly air cleaner) is a manual boost controller.

Originally posted by sillysod
Sentry, there is a guy on performance-shop.com that is a SVO mustang guru, if you are going to plan on modding yours talk to him.

He is super friendly and will be able to point you in the right direction (even though sounds like you are already on the way). There are a few guys running 12's & 11's and they don't have a lot of $$ in their cars.

Here is one of the stickies in the Turbo 2.3 area.

Clicky Click (http://www.performance-shop.com/showthread.php?t=22406)

Enjoy, they are awesome cars.
Guys, I know a thing or two about turbo vehicles. ;)

Jacked the boost controller off the Aristo so I can play with the SVO. SVO likely won't see much as far as power mods, just the filter, boost up, gut the cat, probably dyno tune, maybe intercooler, maybe exhaust. I'd be tickled to see 200whp out of it.

I'm going to attempt the unthinkable and try to make a Mustang handle. THIS is where I'm going to need advice. So if you know anyone that road races or seriously autocrosses their Fox body Mustangs, let me know.

[toastgremlin]

Always loved these cars. Happy to see you can still get a decent example for a reasonable price.

Some guy on Hooniverse (http://forum.hooniverse.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=23) is swapping an IRS rear end out of a newer Cobra into his but you probably don't have to go that far.

I'd also back off those Koni adjustables from full stiff - they're really not designed to run at the extreme and you'll wear them out faster if you run them right at the limit. The car also won't handle terribly well if they're overdamped for the spring rate you're holding.

From Koni's FAQ:

Q: What is the best adjustment setting for my shocks?
A: There is no single best adjustment setting for your KONIs because every driver has different preferences for comfort, performance, performance modifications and roads to drive on. For most vehicles, we suggest that new KONIs be installed in the full soft position. (the standard setting right out of the box) to take advantage of the balance of ride comfort and handling designed by the KONI ride development engineers. If the car has performance upgrades (springs, wheel/tire packages, etc.) or the driver wants the car a bit more aggressive, most people find the optimum setting in the 1/2 to one full turn from the full soft range. Over the extended life of the damper or if the driver wants a specific firm handling characteristic, the dampers can be adjusted up higher. Very rarely will KONI ever need to be adjusted to the full firm setting.

[racerocco]

give Shannon Wall at Western Motorsports a shout, he has set up a lot of autocross Mustangs, sells all the stuff you want, and used to run an SVO himself.

[Sentry]

Thanks guys.

Disconnected the knock sensor and it's a shit ton faster. Before it would hardly run 9 psi without pulling timing. With goddamn 94 in the tank. Annoying.

[Hallowed_point]

Excited for this project..very cool. Can't wait to see it at the meets! :thumbsup: These are really neat cars , awesome find.

[Shlade]

Originally posted by racerocco
give Shannon Wall at Western Motorsports a shout, he has set up a lot of autocross Mustangs, sells all the stuff you want, and used to run an SVO himself.

This. Shannon, Rudy, and Joel are some of the most knowledgeable people I know when it comes to mustangs.

[Rat Fink]

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[Sentry]

I've always had a rock-hard hate on for top mounts, and this one is especially bad being located right over the turbo and exhaust manifold...

After driving it this afternoon I've decided I'm going to lose the interheater ASAP and do a front mount as cheaply as possible.

[ianmcc]

I have a SAAB intercooler you can have for free if you pick it up. No damage.
It's the next of my pay-it-forward that I owe to the Beyond community-this one just seems a natural.

If you want it you have 48 hours to say ya or nay elsewhere first come first server. You also have to pay-it-forward sometime down the road.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c272/02ztsian/Beyond%20Pics/Saab9000intercooler.jpg

Not the actual one but it's exactly like this.

[Sentry]

I'll take it. PMd.

EDIT: Couple years ago I sold a brand new unused ebay intercooler for 20 bucks to a beyonder, so I was hoping that would come back to me. :D

[ianmcc]

Funny how good deeds get rewarded!

[Sentry]

Got the freebie more or less mounted. Bit of a slant since one outlet has to go down into the passenger fender and one has to come up above the lower rad support. Can't see that part of the bumper ever, anyway.

http://i.imgur.com/EjKQv.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1KRl4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/r6mH2.jpg

Had a little fun with the top mount before I rip it out. It was actually almost fast when I did this!

http://i.imgur.com/E7LOn.jpg

Tomorrow I'll get a slim fan for the rad and plumb the intercooler.

Also did my second fill up today. 10.5ish L/100km. Almost as good as my AE86 did.

[Sentry]

I'm torn on deciding how much I want to screw with it.

I've done a bunch of tune up shit and now it's running tip top, mostly stock ish. It's a blast as is, but slow as shit lol. The boosty noises just fool you into thinking it's fast.

I want to make it faster, but I also want to start buying parts for the single conversion on the Aristo's 2JZ. It's OK to have two project cars, they just can't both be projects at the same time. :)

[roll_over]

the interior is nice but maybe gut it? add some speed and MPG's

[Sentry]

LOL fuck no

Recent pics.

http://i.imgur.com/NPX9d.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yVzjT.jpg

[Sentry]

http://i.imgur.com/oq5aF.jpg

Wheel restoration the SVO. Took about 1.5 hours per wheel to get them there. They look brand new! But brand new isn't good enough, I'm gonna get a powerball and polish them into mirrors. :)

[mugensix]

Lol its pretty fun! Your launch was on point lol!

[JBreaks]

"Somebody's gotta drive like a jackass.."

[Sentry]

Grabbed a Walbro pump this morning and threw it in. Pretty much direct fit, re used nearly everything from the factory external pump.

http://i.imgur.com/ewf6F.jpg

Outlet fitting is the same so I re used it, inlet is different so I used one of the supplied barb fittings and a chunk of 5/16" hose. Slimmer than the stocker so I used the supplied beer koozie and slipped that over it.

http://i.imgur.com/iJEQI.jpg

Snipped the spade terminals off the stock harness and put on the supplied ring connectors. Siliconed over them so they won't be open to the elements. Into the stock hanger and ready to go.

http://i.imgur.com/qDmOt.jpg

I can't believe how easy that was.

[Sentry]

Methinks I got a dud.

htCQvUPjomY

Let's see if Mopac will do anything about it.

Can't even go full throttle without it going lean and bucking, let alone make any kind of boost.

[kvg]

You could call Tyler at the Auto Value on Barlow if you have questions on the car. He has built multiple 2.3 turbo cars.

[sr20s14zenki]

You sure your direction of flow is correct? How about wiring positive and ground. Maybe backwards?

[Sentry]

Yes and yes.

I didn't fuck anything up. It has an arrow in the direction of flow and the terminals are marked + and -.

[Darell_n]

How's the filter? Might be cavitating.

[Sentry]

Filter is new, changed it with the pump. I blew through it to make sure it isn't plugged.

It's the pump dudes.

[ianmcc]

I think I have a used Walbro that will fit your Mustang.

[Sentry]

Really? Just a universal inline is all I need. I might be buying it if Mopac won't warranty this one.

[Wrath]

Originally posted by racerocco
give Shannon Wall at Western Motorsports a shout, he has set up a lot of autocross Mustangs, sells all the stuff you want, and used to run an SVO himself.

Yep...When I worked there in the early 2000's the SVO was his autocross/commuter

http://wmsracing.com/wmsweb/shannon.html

[Sentry]

Piping kit arrived finally. Plumbed the intercooler tonight. Just a universal ebay kit, but worked out pretty good. Didn't have to modify much at all.

http://i.imgur.com/TTWBq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/liXad.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/I1OmB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/p5G36.jpg

Stealthy as usual. Only reason the one on the Aristo is so showy is because someone else did it. :D

Also, with the pump I got it replaced on a technicality. Mopac wasn't going to warranty it, but I looked up the part number and it was actually a 155lph pump and not a 190lph pump. So after humming and haw'ing for 40 minutes and looking up part numbers and calling a bunch of people, they finally agreed they screwed up and let me upgrade to the 255lph pump by paying the difference, which was like 15 bucks. All their "190" lph pumps are actually 155 lph if you look up the part number.

[Sentry]

Annnnnd the SVO is now straight piped. Video to come.

[Sentry]

cR9nIeOeQXo

Quiet cruising, even sorta quiet when I get on the throttle. Braps and pops loud when it runs down from high RPM haha. Spools waaaaay faster.

[bourge73]

Moar WOT,and Im buying that when you sell it. :)

[sr20s14zenki]

Sounds like shit, throw a resonator in there

:D

[Sentry]

They sound like shit no matter what you do, at least it's bearably quiet. :D

All Ford 2.3s sound like tractors.

[sr20s14zenki]

Haha. Must be the 1920s design. ;) jk. At least they hold boost. Them and the dodge 2.2. Legendary underdogs ;)

[Hallowed_point]

It sounds like a less pissed off SRT4..I'd throw a magnaflow muffler on it just to tune the sound ;)

[AE92_TreunoSC]

Even a shitty second hand resonator from a wrecker will help that sound. But a great project for sure.

Re-gear it and it will totally wake that puppy up.

[Sentry]

Emergency LB3 ECU swap.
http://i.imgur.com/ffLnY.jpg

Strapped up and ready to roll.
http://i.imgur.com/78kip.jpg

202whp and 238ftlbs. Nearly 20whp more than a EFI 5.0 HO!

Baseline was around 170whp, all that gain/smoothing was with only 2psi more boost and tuning.
http://i.imgur.com/JWz7l.jpg

Ungraphed data of the final run.
http://i.imgur.com/L6O5n.jpg

[corsvette]

Geez, not bad numbers at all. :thumbsup:

[Darkane]

these cars are bad for drivetrain losses.

I'd deduct 20% for Drivetrain, and another 10-15 for mustang dyno.

So REALLY you might be like 260+BHP and close to 300ft lbs.

that's fucking great!

[sr20s14zenki]

Its not a mustang dyno

nice numbers tho still (=

[Sentry]

Well while we're bench racing, I'd figure mid 90s for trap speed, low 14s maybe high 13s. :P

[blackpeople]

mid 90s mustang race? my mustang vs yours lol

[ianmcc]

How much boost with that LB3?

[sr20s14zenki]

Originally posted by ianmcc
How much boost with that LB3?

looking at the data, looks like he peaked at 15 psi.

[Sentry]

Originally posted by blackpeople
mid 90s mustang race? my mustang vs yours lol
Lets do this :P


Originally posted by ianmcc
How much boost with that LB3?
I didn't go into boost at all until it was on the dyno and Toma loaded it with a LA3 map tweaked for my smaller 30lb injectors. Realized I was keeping up with traffic despite treating the gas pedal like an egg shell and not building any boost. Is this how normal people drive?! Annoying.

[blackpeople]

DEAL ;)

[Toma]

Originally posted by blackpeople
DEAL ;)

To be fair, you need to disconnect 4 of your plug wires, or, take the turbo off ;)

[Sentry]

Well this explains the seemingly random drivability issues yesterday and today. Weird misfire at different RPM and boost levels each time. Snoop around a bit, insulation on the wires for the TFI module on the distributor was crumbling apart.

http://i.imgur.com/pHlAZ.jpg

S'all good again now.

[Abeo]

There is a near complete manual trans turbocoupe at PNP, in case you need oddball OEM parts

[Sentry]

Got a shorty antenna and some amber tint film in the mail today. Started doing the corners.

One side done. Replaced both headlights while I was at it, since one burned out on Thursday.
http://i.imgur.com/R6rMP.jpg

Old and busted
http://i.imgur.com/EEkft.jpg

New hotness
http://i.imgur.com/aDFNF.jpg

Unfortunately I fucked up the passenger side outer signal. Corners are a cunt to do. It's like trying to wrap a ball with a piece of paper and not have any wrinkles. So I pulled off the tint on the drivers side and I'll just have to order some more film and try again.
http://i.imgur.com/nu548.jpg

Shorty antenna is about even with the roofline.
http://i.imgur.com/exBid.jpg

Also it has a BOV now, because I'm hella ricer.
http://i.imgur.com/NGZUr.jpg

[ianmcc]

Looking good!
Check whether you have the E3 or the E6 manifold.
Good site to check-basically if your exhaust manifold has the round lumps you have the E3.
http://www.fordturbo.com/option4.html
These E3s are prone to cracking and are a bottleneck.
I say this because there is a Turbocoupe in Pick n Pull with the E6 manifold still intact. Cheap upgrade!

[Sentry]

It's an e3, and yes it is cracked haha. No exhaust leak from the crack at idle, although I imagine the backpressure from the turbine might make it leak a bit at WOT while spooling.

[Toma]

Here's a little motivation ;)

400 ish through an auto :eek:
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[blackpeople]

How much does that thing weigh with Driver?

[Toma]

Originally posted by blackpeople
How much does that thing weigh with Driver?
Dunno :dunno:

My corner scales, one of them is fucked. :banghead:

It's legal to 10.0 though, cage etc, and Marty isn't a small guy, I would guess it around 3100

[kvg]

Toma is that Tylers old engine?

[Toma]

Originally posted by kvg
Toma is that Tylers old engine?
No, it's a pretty built piece.

[Sentry]

Not shabby. I might go for more power on this thing down the road, but now I'm going to focus my attention on the Aristo. I've got a BW S366 on the way. Want 400whp next summer on stock stuff and USDM 550cc injectors, then in 2014 built tranny and fuckton more power. :)

[Sentry]

Oh and, wintermode. :D

http://i.imgur.com/en6i1.jpg

[Hallowed_point]

Originally posted by Sentry
Oh and, wintermode. :D

http://i.imgur.com/en6i1.jpg

Hell yeah, studded winters on the stang :D

[Sentry]

Got headlight covers.

WE STYLIN' NOW

http://i.imgur.com/K8ckP.jpg

[Shlade]

Ill be that dick...

You should be winter driving the Aristo and not this thing. Coming by a SVO thats in that good of condition is next to impossible

[Sentry]

There's a good amount of SVOs around in this condition, or better. They just aren't as cheap. :D

I touched up all the rock chips before snow hit, and I wash the road shit off it pretty often since I can just pull it in after work any day.

[Hallowed_point]

That car needs rims , bad. Any plans for those?

[03ozwhip]

and it wouldnt be "beyondly" of me to not say NEEDS MOAR LOWWWWW :D

[Sentry]

It'll get wheels and low, come spring.

Tonight I did the amber vinyl on the corners finally. What a bitch. Came out nice.

http://i.imgur.com/bcj88.jpg

[Hallowed_point]

That looks awesome man :D

[Sentry]

Got some parts for the SVO this week.

Katzkin heated seats kit.
http://i.imgur.com/8Ycmn.jpg

Kijiji'd myself a brand new Mach1 lip for 60 bucks
http://i.imgur.com/r3CFt.jpg

CE subframe connectors. Won't be installing these for a while. Gotta remove or at least pull up the carpet before I get them welded in.
http://i.imgur.com/Nl7NN.jpg

And lastly, the RARE and COVETED Eibach Pro Kit 3509.140 for the SVO.
http://i.imgur.com/oMO3t.jpg

I could have used V8 springs and made do, this is the only kit that's specifically for the SVO which has deeper spring pockets in the front lower control arms. Was a bitch to find.

All going in next Saturday, except the SFCs.

[Sentry]

Had the day off work today... Installed the Eibach springs and Mach1 front lip.

http://i.imgur.com/NgTJd.jpg

:poosie:

Rear took 2 hour, front took 1 hour. Went smoothly except for everything being 30 years old.

[Shlade]

looks good

[Hallowed_point]

Damn..it's looking much much better now. :D Even makes the wheels look half decent with the drop and lip!

I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the SFC's if they make as much difference on the fox body as they did on my f body. Cuts down on flex big time. Should corner better and launch straighter :burnout:

[bourge73]

I can't wait to buy it this summer :poosie:

[Sentry]

Dec 25: Arrive back in Calgary. FUCK it's cold.
Dec 26: Screw this, installed heated seat kit into SVO's leather seats.

Mmm warm.

http://i.imgur.com/TPjxd.jpg

[Shlade]

I sense disaster and a burnt down SVO with those lol

[Sentry]

Pff, it's not sketchy, it's a good kit. They're Katzkin.

http://katzkin.com/

[StreetRacerX]

Originally posted by Sentry
Pff, it's not sketchy, it's a good kit. They're Katzkin.

http://katzkin.com/

They make great leather seat covers anyway lol

[Sentry]

Oops! Needs a headgasket.

Started blowing coolant into the overflow like crazy this weekend. Hit the rad with the sniffer fluid that checks for combustion gases and sure enough.

Oh well, needed a tbelt anyway. Noticed back on my initial once-over right after I bought it in July that the belt was all cracked.

[finboy]

Found this at pm hobbycraft if you are interested

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9625/imagemsorf.jpg

[Sentry]

Pic doesn't work. A die cast? I've already got one in 1:18. :)

I accidentally a headgasket.
http://i.imgur.com/NWg9a0Z.jpg

Now it'll be good for another 30 years... Right?
http://i.imgur.com/X2T1f5Z.jpg

Removed the intercooler bracket and chopped the timing cover while I was in there. Restored to its former glory and sporting a slightly different look.
http://i.imgur.com/8nMISXM.jpg

[DeleriousZ]

Damn this thing is cool man, I might have to high five you if I see you around town in it lol.

[Sentry]

Blue'd my oval with a paint pen.

http://i.imgur.com/vlFofYg.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/njKWfwG.jpg

Dark and metallic, still has the texture of the factory wrinkle paint underneath. Looks OEM.

[Sentry]

Fix headgasket one weekend, flog it the next.

C'est la vie for a turboford.

http://i.imgur.com/qcMTpRN.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nJQx6xs.jpg

[Twenty]

Originally posted by Sentry

http://i.imgur.com/vlFofYg.jpg


I really like that!

[Sentry]

Installed since last update:
Goodridge braided brake lines
CE subframe connectors
Prothane sway bar bushings and end links
Prothane ball joint boots
Chopped off the old turndown and put on a dual outlet exhaust tip like factory

To be installed:
Koni Red/Special/Classic/whatever they call them these days
Porterfield R4S rear pads (only company that makes a rear pad for the SVO)
Hawk HPS front pads
Pyle digital media receiver

http://i.imgur.com/K0x5SEY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JRYjurX.jpg

Cool sticker, haven't seen this one before.
http://i.imgur.com/8qJUSFn.jpg

Here's the DMR I got. Purposely got a cheapie because I hate bling ass headunits in old cars, they look so out of place. Has bluetooth streaming capability, which is why I'm changing decks. I want to be able to pair my phone and play music off it.
http://deals.bestbuypricemsale.net/productimages/Pyle-PLR27MPBU.jpg

[ianmcc]

Are you still running the stock turbo?

[Sentry]

Yes, still at stock boost. Should last forever.

[Sentry]

Did front struts and ball joint boots today.

Old boots were still "good", but I'm replacing them with poly boots while I'm in there.
http://i.imgur.com/ZwAF28v.jpg

Buttons still showing. Joints felt great when I had it apart. Hopefully they last forever cause there aren't any left for me to buy.
http://i.imgur.com/Q9W9mXQ.jpg

New boot and grease.
http://i.imgur.com/0oNnTxD.jpg

Old and busted.
http://i.imgur.com/2r31r36.jpg

New hotness.
http://i.imgur.com/4gYehZd.jpg

[Sentry]

Today: Rear shocks, brakes all around, seasonal tire swap.

Did front wheel bearings too since you gotta take them apart to get the rotors off. Look at ALL DEM NEW PARTS.
http://i.imgur.com/ghQBj5m.jpg

Front rotors cut, new bearings and wheel seals installed, all packed with fresh grease.
http://i.imgur.com/1239xQR.jpg

All brakes and shocks done, tires swapped over.
http://i.imgur.com/zFMBDvS.jpg

My to do list on this now is comprised of lots of little shit. So much fun to drive.

[Hallowed_point]

You must be having a blast ripping around in this SVO. Refreshing the shocks, brakes & bushings would make a huge difference in a car of this vintage I'd bet! :D

[JBreaks]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/.a/6a00d83451c3cb69e2011168543bc7970c-250wi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA52uNzx7Y4

[Sentry]

Off to its new home in Sask.

https://scontent-b-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/563719_10152068930784810_1474971340_n.jpg

[J.M.]

What's next? Another EG perhaps? :D