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zipdoa
08-09-2012, 11:42 AM
So I've been offered a position at a company, and the salary offered is lower than what was discussed before hand.

Is it typical to make a counter-offer based on a slight salary increase, or does one just typically accept the offer that's been made? What would be the most professional way of doing so?

TIA Beyonders.

spike98
08-09-2012, 11:43 AM
If a certain salary was spoken with verbally and the offer itself is slightly lower then you should negotiate. However if the amount is small and you really need/want the job i would take it.

sputnik
08-09-2012, 11:46 AM
Define "slight".

ercchry
08-09-2012, 11:49 AM
take it as a sign that you are about to work for a cheap ass company, they will cut corners, you wont get good raises... etc, etc.

Sugarphreak
08-09-2012, 12:03 PM
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zipdoa
08-09-2012, 12:16 PM
I wouldn't apply for a company that didn't have a solid reputation.

They have a great product and there's room to move into a much better position in one years time, but the current salary is about 15% lower than the absolute minimum that was discussed.

I would assume over the phone/in person would be preferable to negotiating over e-mail?

chibwack
08-09-2012, 12:41 PM
15% is pretty much them taking you to town... definately sort it out before you sign anything.

sputnik
08-09-2012, 12:52 PM
15% is brutal.

Mitsu3000gt
08-09-2012, 01:08 PM
I wouldn't take a 15% pay cut unless the new job provided an unbelievably big boost to my quality of life in some other way besides money (which also happens to improve quality of life haha).

EVERY salary is negotiable.

zipdoa
08-09-2012, 01:14 PM
Do you consider RRSP contributions, health benefits and bonuses part of your Salary?

kenny
08-09-2012, 01:30 PM
Nope.

However I wouldn't confuse "earning potential" with "salary". Often recruiters will speak of earning potential when interviewing candidates and include things that you mentioned but will not be a part of salary on an offer letter.

zipdoa
08-09-2012, 01:39 PM
Awesome. This has been extremely helpful!

I would read this thread again A+++ (srs)

Type_S1
08-09-2012, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by zipdoa
Awesome. This has been extremely helpful!

I would read this thread again A+++ (srs)

Benefits, RRSP's, bonus program etc should not be considered as earnings in my opinion.

What I take into account is my $ value salary and that is it so don't let anyone fool you into thinking any different.

Sugarphreak
08-09-2012, 01:49 PM
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Mitsu3000gt
08-09-2012, 02:47 PM
Unless it's guaranteed and in writing, do not consider it part of salary. I've been burned by that before.

Isaiah
08-09-2012, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt

EVERY salary is negotiable.
You can bold and underscore 'EVERY' as well. I would never consider the first offer.

Disoblige
08-09-2012, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by Isaiah

I would never consider the first offer.
What does that mean?
Every first offer you've ever had, you've always declined?

buh_buh
08-09-2012, 04:10 PM
man, I should never have accepted that minimum wage job at the gas station :banghead:

Isaiah
08-09-2012, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by Disoblige

What does that mean?
Every first offer you've ever had, you've always declined?
I have negotiated every offer.

bourge73
08-09-2012, 04:21 PM
Congrats Zippy take it! If ya need it:thumbsup:

littledan
08-09-2012, 04:43 PM
When I got hired on with my current employer, the supervisor that hired me was offering ~70k, and the HR guys tried to come in with 58k... needless to say the supervisor fixed that up ASAP lol

pheoxs
10-22-2012, 12:18 PM
I'd just phone the person that made the offer / the original amount (I'm assuming same person?) and just ask them to explain the discrepancy and negotiate to the original number.

Just be polite / respectful about it, it could be that the manager/supervisor didn't know HR changed the $ amount or it could be them trying to sneak it in but I'd give them the benefit of the doubt initially.

Afrodeziak
10-22-2012, 01:48 PM
May want to check out www.glassdoor.com to find out a bit of info. as well

AG_Styles
10-22-2012, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by Afrodeziak
May want to check out www.glassdoor.com to find out a bit of info. as well

side detract:

how big of a sample size should be considered when looking at average salary?

because according to this... I've been getting underpaid by 3x the average amount.

Rat Fink
10-22-2012, 10:08 PM
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