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part4sale
08-13-2012, 05:52 PM
I need to run a short gas line about 2 feet to my deck so I can hook up to my bbq. Basically you will need to put a T on the current line and then extend it from there. not sure if someone from here has a gas license in order to do it. please let me know if u have any ideas. attached is the picture of the main gas line, and as you can see my deck is next to it. http://s12.postimage.org/92nqqrnrd/20120813_173159.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/92nqqrnrd/)
MPowered
08-13-2012, 06:29 PM
I'm looking for the same thing. 2fer deal?
codetrap
08-13-2012, 07:19 PM
Home depot. DIY. Test it thoroughly and you'll be fine.
part4sale
08-13-2012, 09:05 PM
is it legal to do it myself though?
codetrap
08-13-2012, 09:17 PM
Not a clue. I did mine though.
Ntense_SpecV
08-13-2012, 09:33 PM
No - you can't do it yourself. You need to pull a permit and have it inspected for it to be "legal" in the eye's of the city and home insurance.
The only reason for this is if you were to have a fire and it was deemed to have been started from your bbq, you wouldn't be covered by your insurance and would be responsible to pay out of pocket for any damages. Now can you do the work yourself...sure, but peace of mind is worth a couple hundred to me.
Originally posted by part4sale
is it legal to do it myself though?
No. To alter your gas line like that requires a permit and City of Calgary inspection.
Hounddog
08-13-2012, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by wiph
No. To alter your gas line like that requires a permit and City of Calgary inspection.
Just to add to this - I don't think a homeowner can pull a gas permit. When I was pulling a homeowner building and electrical permit for my garage, they wouldn't let me pull a gas permit. This was about 5 years ago. Hope this helps.
EDIT: Of course I now realize I'm repeating what ever everyone has said. Sorry for the redundancy...fail on my part.
MPowered
08-14-2012, 07:30 AM
All above is true. Got a quote for $400 to run a BBQ line from gas line in basement.
part4sale
08-14-2012, 09:46 AM
thanks for all the responses guys, much appreciated!
I got a quote from a guy and it's $400 as well, I don't think it should be that much since my deck is right next to it.
Crystalrw
08-14-2012, 10:05 AM
Hey, can you PM me the info of the guy you got a quote from?
I also need to run a gas line and best quote I had so far was $600.
Maybe we should do a Beyond group discount!!
JRSC00LUDE
08-14-2012, 10:07 AM
Originally posted by part4sale
thanks for all the responses guys, much appreciated!
I got a quote from a guy and it's $400 as well, I don't think it should be that much since my deck is right next to it.
The material is minimal cost for that diameter line and that isn't what you are paying for, it's the permit, the time and enough profit to make it worthwhile.
Personally, I wouldn't want my neighbor to do it himself just because he "can". Usually they're the same guys that "can" drywall and "can" install flooring and when you put their work side by side to an actual tradesmans it's shit. Lots of people "can" do things and it'll likely work but it doesn't mean they should. If you're working with gas, get a permit.
Ntense_SpecV
08-14-2012, 10:30 AM
One more thing to add. Make sure that whoever you get to do the work, when they go to pull the permit, have them schedule in the city inspection at that time. This is so the city inspector show's up in a reasonable time frame between when the work is done and when the inspection will be done. My co-worker waited almost 8 days for the inspection before he could use his bbq.
part4sale
08-14-2012, 03:02 PM
Originally posted by Crystalrw
Hey, can you PM me the info of the guy you got a quote from?
I also need to run a gas line and best quote I had so far was $600.
Maybe we should do a Beyond group discount!!
It's Gavin Rairie: 403 888 1592.
The material is minimal cost for that diameter line and that isn't what you are paying for, it's the permit, the time and enough profit to make it worthwhile. Personally, I wouldn't want my neighbor to do it himself just because he "can". Usually they're the same guys that "can" drywall and "can" install flooring and when you put their work side by side to an actual tradesmans it's shit. Lots of people "can" do things and it'll likely work but it doesn't mean they should. If you're working with gas, get a permit.
The thing is for $400, it does not include the permit fee nor anything else. It's just for the labour and material.
JRSC00LUDE
08-14-2012, 03:26 PM
$120/hr shop rate plus some parts, I just don't see the problem to be honest but maybe that's because I work in construction....
Ntense_SpecV
08-14-2012, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by JRSC00LUDE
$120/hr shop rate plus some parts, I just don't see the problem to be honest but maybe that's because I work in construction....
But it wouldn't take more than 2 hours max to do that job. Plus the $60-80 in parts including the pipe, quick connect, valve and paint. I would think that for $400 you should have the permit with that cost. I look back and now realize I had a smoking deal on my last bbq install on my town house ($250 including materials).
part4sale
08-14-2012, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by Ntense_SpecV
But it wouldn't take more than 2 hours max to do that job. Plus the $60-80 in parts including the pipe, quick connect, valve and paint. I would think that for $400 you should have the permit with that cost. I look back and now realize I had a smoking deal on my last bbq install on my town house ($250 including materials).
do u mind sharing the contact of the person who installed it? :p. several people here might benefit from it.
Ntense_SpecV
08-15-2012, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by part4sale
do u mind sharing the contact of the person who installed it? :p. several people here might benefit from it.
I do not have his contact info any longer. I certainly would have passed it on, considering what my co-worker ended up paying BBQ's Galore for his install ($700ish). When I moved to my current house I have a buddy who did mine as a side job.
Crystalrw
08-15-2012, 10:42 AM
I got referred by one of the users on this forum to Protech Gasfitting, and I plan to go with them. Their quote included the permit, was very reasonable, and I liked their style of quoting.
All in all it'll come in at about $450 for me (factoring in the distance that I have to run the line.)
JRSC00LUDE
08-15-2012, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by Ntense_SpecV
But it wouldn't take more than 2 hours max to do that job. Plus the $60-80 in parts including the pipe, quick connect, valve and paint. I would think that for $400 you should have the permit with that cost. I look back and now realize I had a smoking deal on my last bbq install on my town house ($250 including materials).
This is true but most people will factor in leaving the shop and returning to the shop, it's easy to eat another hour or so up in traffic I would assume. $250.00 is a smoking deal but I would think $400 is still fair was the only point I was making. It certainly doesn't sound like a bend him over price in any case. :)
Ntense_SpecV
08-15-2012, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by JRSC00LUDE
This is true but most people will factor in leaving the shop and returning to the shop, it's easy to eat another hour or so up in traffic I would assume. $250.00 is a smoking deal but I would think $400 is still fair was the only point I was making. It certainly doesn't sound like a bend him over price in any case. :)
But that's the thing. The $400 doesn't include the permit cost. That's what roughly another $150 to the city...all of a sudden it's around $550-600 which in my mind is a lot for very little work.
Crystalrw
08-15-2012, 12:17 PM
I was told that they can pull permits online in a matter of minutes, but the permit fee is around $95.
http://www.calgary.ca/PDA/DBA/Documents/fees/mechanical-and-plumbing-and-gas-fees.pdf
PaPaTang
08-15-2012, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by Ntense_SpecV
But that's the thing. The $400 doesn't include the permit cost. That's what roughly another $150 to the city...all of a sudden it's around $550-600 which in my mind is a lot for very little work.
Well I know that Barbecues Galore does bundle the permit cost into the $400 gas line installation fee (+$10/foot). For your co-worker to have a $700+ install and an 8 day wait for using their gas line, they would have had 20'+ of gasline run and a pressure gauge put on it, which would have required the city to come out and inspect it on a day that was convenient for your co-worker.
To just put a stub onto the gas meter would only cost the OP $400+gst. Which of course is still pricey for some people.
Ntense_SpecV
08-15-2012, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by PaPaTang
Well I know that Barbecues Galore does bundle the permit cost into the $400 gas line installation fee (+$10/foot). For your co-worker to have a $700+ install and an 8 day wait for using their gas line, they would have had 20'+ of gasline run and a pressure gauge put on it, which would have required the city to come out and inspect it on a day that was convenient for your co-worker.
To just put a stub onto the gas meter would only cost the OP $400+gst. Which of course is still pricey for some people.
That's almost exactly what he had to do. They had to run it I think 18-20' under his deck. The wait was because when they did the install, the installer only called the city after the work was completed rather then when it was booked with BBQ's Galore. The installer could have booked the inspection before and cut the wait time down to 3-4 days...at least that's what he told me.
Originally posted by Ntense_SpecV
That's almost exactly what he had to do. They had to run it I think 18-20' under his deck. The wait was because when they did the install, the installer only called the city after the work was completed rather then when it was booked with BBQ's Galore. The installer could have booked the inspection before and cut the wait time down to 3-4 days...at least that's what he told me.
Well not quite, city inspections can be booked for the next day so long as it is before the 2pm cut off and the installer can't book inspections prior to finishing the work, as he doesn't know when the home owner will have an available day to stay home and wait for the inspector.
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